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Saturday June 18 01:04:41 2005
Re: bit gag scene from "The Inside"
Pat Powers wrote:

> Also, a lot of the dialogue seemed to indicate to me that
> the policewoman on the show had submissive tendencies and
> her fellow cops knew about it.

No, she was in her younger life kidnapped and held captive
for a long time before escaping. Not any kind of
submissive tendencies, in fact she fought like a wildcat
when the guy cuffed her.

Brian R
Saturday June 18 05:12:13 2005
Re: Update
Major John wrote:

> http://www.bindher.com/silentnight

Sweet update guys!! My hat is off to MJ, Jay L. and of course, Bindher for hosting the goodness. You people are doing wonderful things over there.
Wavy
verywavy@yahoo.com
Saturday June 18 08:13:36 2005
Re: Tiffani Thiessen
Tightgag wrote:

> Has anybody seen the Tiffani Thiessen scene from Fastlane
> (tied to chair, no gag) and is it worth me hunting down?

No, it isn't worth hunting down. The bondage was lousy. The scene was so bad that I didn't save it. Which is saying something because I save about 90% of the scenes I catch.
Another Dave
Saturday June 18 08:19:12 2005
Alerts, etc
Just throwing this in - it shouldn't be terribly difficult to write a script that checks your local listings (that you'd get from xmltv) against the db* and makes the whole "alert" thing pretty much automatic. The vcr alerts page seems to miss a ton of stuff, which is understandable because people don't sit around adding alerts all day. Doing this automatically would save a bunch of time too.

Any thoughts?

*probably a local / mirrored copy of the db, so that brian's page doesn't get slammed.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Saturday June 18 11:55:02 2005
playboy bunny
I saw a thread about this and I kind of lost it. Any way I am not sure if any one mentioned "Faster pussy cat kill kill kill" from the early 60's The girl tied and gagged in that was one. Certainly not a movie up there with Good fellas , but who gives a *#&% LOL
T bone AKA George K.
Saturday June 18 12:26:26 2005
One Life to Live Possiblity
June 23rd - "Duke and Adriana are held hostage in South America"

I don't know if anything good will come from it, but any plot summery that includes the words "Adriana" and "hostage", "kidnapped" or "two-piece" as my attention. (ABC 2pm EST, M-F)
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/gman22471/118.html
Saturday June 18 13:51:17 2005
Yo, G-MaN.
Check your mail, man. I didn't want to post a bunch of direct questions on the page, as it sort've defeats the purpose of "discussion". Just a quick alert in case you're one of guys (like me,) that rarely looks at the ol' mailbox.
X
Saturday June 18 15:30:41 2005
Re: Update
Wavy wrote:

> Sweet update guys!! My hat is off to MJ, Jay L. and of
> course, Bindher for hosting the goodness. You people are
> doing wonderful things over there.

I second that. Kudos to all for the great work.

PassDaTape
Saturday June 18 16:15:12 2005
Re: Update
Major John wrote:

> Both Major John's & Jay L's are updated courtesy of
> Bindher,
> including an answer to the previous post.
> http://www.bindher.com/silentnight

Thanks for the info. Looks like a standard behind-the-head leather strap. Still, bit gag scenes in mainstream media are very rare.
Pat Powers
Saturday June 18 16:28:09 2005
Re: bit gag scene from "The Inside"
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> I thought the show was interesting in it's balanced
> treatment of kink, but when the smooth talker got tied
> down and f_ _ _ked in the a_ _ at the end (no pun
> intended) they sort of lost me. Unless of course, they
> were making the (subtle and brilliant) statement that
> male viewers (voyeurs) can have a love/hate thirst for
> artistic depictions of female rape, but not male rape.

I like it when they deal with kink directly too, but it's rare that they can do so on a cop show because it almost always works out that the kinkster is one of the suspects, most often the murderer, sometimes a red herring, and terrible things are being done by kinky persons. Not really an accurate depiction of how things work in real life. So we have the rape-murder at the end, which didn't make a lot of sense, but it's very dramatic. I think the point they were making is that the guy who got raped was experiencing the shoe being on the other foot. But it's not really a fair bit of poetic justice, since the guy wasn't a rapist in the first place (I think -- I missed the first half).
Pat Powers
Saturday June 18 16:30:25 2005
Re: bit gag scene from "The Inside"
Brian R wrote:
> No, she was in her younger life kidnapped and held
> captive
> for a long time before escaping. Not any kind of
> submissive tendencies, in fact she fought like a wildcat
> when the guy cuffed her.

Yeah, but then why was her cop partner saying things to the effect of, "Don't you really want this guy to do you, etc.?" Does't sound like the right thing to say to a former kidnap victim, if you know they were one. Had she given any indication earlier that she might be interested?
Saturday June 18 16:35:17 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
valkyrie wrote:

> Tightgag wrote:
>
> Big Trouble in Little China had a good one with Kim
> Catrall, who is untied and everyone makes a dashing
> escape- she runs off with the gag intact, and unties it
> in the next scene.
>

As I recall, her gag remains on for a prolonged period of time after she's been released from her hogtie. I think the exigency of escaping from the underground dungeon superseded the need to remove her gag. It must've been tied on very securely; she seemed to struggle a bit to remove it.
Hadji
Saturday June 18 17:03:06 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
valkyrie wrote:

> A late season episode of the series FAME had two of the
> kids (girl & guy) captured by industrial spies to
> retrieve a tape they had.

Wow- never heard of that scene before. Checking the DB now...
DAK
Saturday June 18 17:08:14 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
Hadji wrote:

> As I recall, her gag remains on for a prolonged period of
> time after she's been released from her hogtie. I think
> the exigency of escaping from the underground dungeon
> superseded the need to remove her gag. It must've been
> tied on very securely; she seemed to struggle a bit to remove it.

Homepage link leads to an article with a pic right at the beginning of Kim hogtied and gagged in BTiLC. Looks kinda tight to me.
Pat Powers
http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/immodestproposal.html
Saturday June 18 17:53:11 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
DAK wrote:

> valkyrie wrote:
>
> > A late season episode of the series FAME had two of
> the
> > kids (girl & guy) captured by industrial spies
> to
> > retrieve a tape they had.
>
> Wow- never heard of that scene before. Checking the DB
> now...


The actress' name is Elisa Heinsohn. She later replaced Carrie Ann Moss as the judge's secretary on Dark Justice, but had no scenes.
(A correction has been sugmitted to the DB to add her name.)

Record number: 671

Title: Fame
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Unknown

Description: Episode: Unknown

Some sort of plot is going on at the school, and a guy and a girl end up in the basement, tied to chairs and gagged with adhesive tape. Some good struggling as the first ungag themselves, then get loose from the ropes.
LV
Saturday June 18 18:38:25 2005
Attn: Asian Babe Fans
Scan these Asian entertainment type shows to see about possibilities. One was pretty wild. Could be from one, or two different (soaps?).
"TVB" mentioned, so likely Hong Kong ones.

What do here,
is make an email-pass around clip and see if anyone recognises any of the actresses.

If lucky, this upcoming to air on OMNI channels.
But if not, then least try narrow down titles for you fellas to check at the Chinese video stores
Jay L
Saturday June 18 18:44:52 2005
Re: Update
Wavy wrote:

> Sweet update guys!! My hat is off to MJ

Hey Major, a fan
re: "Attn: Asian Babe Fans" post.
Figure got a volunteer to take a shot at ID'ing here?
Jay L
Saturday June 18 19:09:34 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
Tightgag wrote:

> can anybody recall
> any scenes in which either the bound woman removes her
> own gag (either with her freed hands or with something
> else) or removes the gag of a bound person

The female lead in "Saw" un-gags herself and promptly re-gags herself when the bad guy comes back into the room.
Lord Zoltar
Saturday June 18 19:36:52 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
Tightgag wrote:

> can anybody recall
> any scenes in which either the bound woman removes her
> own gag (either with her freed hands or with something
> else) or removes the gag of a bound person

The list so far:
Partners in Crime "Getting in Shape"
Walker "Halloween"
Fame
Big Trouble in Little China
Melrose Place "Ashes to Asses"
Saw
and I can think of two more, Jane Russell in "The Outlaw" and recently SMG in "Scooby Doo".
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/gman22471/118.html
Saturday June 18 19:43:08 2005
Bondage in credits-Tv & Movie
I was curious if any of you have ever seen in the credits at the end of a movie or TV program, a listing that lists a woman who was tied up but had such a minor roll, that she had no name in the movie and thus was listed as tied woman,etc in the credits.I hope this wasn,t too long. Thanks Alabond
Alabond
Saturday June 18 21:12:01 2005
Re: Bondage in credits-Tv & Movie
Alabond wrote:

> I was curious if any of you have ever seen in the credits
> at the end of a movie or TV program, a listing that lists
> a woman who was tied up but had such a minor roll, that
> she had no name in the movie and thus was listed as tied
> woman,etc in the credits.I hope this wasn,t too long.

Try a search under Characters in the IMDB for words like tied, chained, bondage, etc. You'll find some there.
Malasfan
Saturday June 18 21:12:08 2005
Re: bit gag scene from "The Inside"
> Yeah, but then why was her cop partner saying things to
> the effect of, "Don't you really want this guy to do
> you, etc.?" Does't sound like the right thing to say
> to a former kidnap victim, if you know they were one. Had
> she given any indication earlier that she might be interested?

At the end of the episode her boss suggested that it was she who sent the fake message that got her partner out of the way for a while so she could go to the S&M guy.

The show was extremely confused--on the one hand, clearing S&M man, on the other suggesting he had inherited his taste from his rapist father, also suggesting that women must be really screwed up to want what he had to offer. BTW, major originality points for having the cop obsessed with the case for years turn out to be the killer--never saw THAT coming (sarcasm).
ss
Saturday June 18 21:30:24 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
Lord Zoltar wrote:

> Tightgag wrote:
>
> > can anybody recall
> > any scenes in which either the bound woman removes
> her
> > own gag (either with her freed hands or with
> something
> > else) or removes the gag of a bound person
>
> The female lead in "Saw" un-gags herself and
> promptly re-gags herself when the bad guy comes back into the room.

This would be Monica Potter.
As for bound and gagged women removing their own gags, Stphanie Powers comes to mind. I was thinking of that episode of "Hart to Hart" in which she's bound and gagged in the back of a catering truck and frees herself.
Hadji
Saturday June 18 21:37:03 2005
Re: Women Removing Gags
> Tightgag wrote:
>
> > can anybody recall
> > any scenes in which either the bound woman removes
> her
> > own gag (either with her freed hands or with
> something
> > else) or removes the gag of a bound person

Erika Anderson in "Quake" comes to mind. She not only regags herself but reties herself as well.
CM
Saturday June 18 22:45:44 2005
Re: bit gag scene from "The Inside"
ss wrote:
> The show was extremely confused--on the one hand,
> clearing S&M man, on the other suggesting he had
> inherited his taste from his rapist father, also
> suggesting that women must be really screwed up to want
> what he had to offer. BTW, major originality points for
> having the cop obsessed with the case for years turn out
> to be the killer--never saw THAT coming (sarcasm).

Well, sounds like it just be really bad, confused writing rather than anyone having a point to make. As Van likes to say, it's not always about the bondage ... even when they're talking about the bondage, apparently.

Pat Powers

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