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| Monday July 04 00:30:23 2005 Der Clown |
| A possible film to maybe keep an eye out for...apparently there is a new 2005 movie called "Der Clown" out (or soon to be out), and in blurb on the Maxin website it mentioned that Eva Habermann (of "Lexx" fame) stars as a woman taken captive by the bad guy. That's all I know about the movie, but Eva is no stranger to rope & gag so it might be worth watching for.
Incidently, the girl who replaced Eva on "Lexx", Xenia Seeberg (another veteran to rope & gag), is also in this movie, although I don't know anything about her role. Kinda interesting. |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday July 04 00:33:51 2005 re: Der Clown |
| ...and in blurb on the Maxin website ...
Uh, that should have read "and in a blurb on the Maxim website..." [sheesh!] |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday July 04 02:43:38 2005 Re: Der Clown |
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> there is a new 2005 movie called "Der Clown" > out (or soon to be out), and in blurb on the Maxin > website it mentioned that Eva Habermann (of > "Lexx" fame) stars as a woman taken captive by > the bad guy. That's all I know about the movie, but Eva > is no stranger to rope & gag so it might be worth > watching for. Tied and blindfolded in the back seat of a car, plasticuffed to the metal ladder of a swimming pool, then tied to the front of a running TIR. Last scene is very long, but the three scenes together hardly make one decent. Dean1 |
| dean1 |
| Monday July 04 10:17:47 2005 Re: Gagged mid-sentence |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Can anyone provide examples of actresses who were gagged > onscreen while speaking? Of course... Sarah Purcell in "Terror Among Us ". |
| Alex86 |
| Monday July 04 11:56:03 2005 Soaps vs. Prime Time this year |
| So, um, I understand we have two women in cheerleader outfits gagged and tied to posts. I gotta say, this is what the Japanese would call "fanservice." Has prime-time come up with anything even close to this in terms of general bondage sexiness in the last year? Or are the soaps Da Winners in terms of mainstream bondage on TV, despite their many shortcomings in most other respects?
The only one I see out there trying to match them is Howard Stern and Howard has gotten ... kinda peculiar lately. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday July 04 12:43:14 2005 OLTL Cheerleaders!!! |
| WOW!!!
I get back from vacation and find that I've missed one of the greatest scenes ever. (Or have I?) Back in the days before Brian's Page, I would never have even known that this scene ever occurred. (Chloroformed women bound and gagged in cheerleader outfits would just remain figments of my fertile imagination.) Then, in the early days of Brian's Page, we would have heard about it after it aired, with only a few soap-taping stalwarts catching all of the scene; in a week or so a few vidcaps would begin to trickle in showing the rest of us what we missed. But in today's high-tech world, I return from vacation to find a very nice video of the scene waiting for me on Major John's site, before the scene is even finished. (And, of course, I can now record the rest of the scene as it unfolds, hopefully over several more days.) That, my friends, is progress. (Now all I have to do is wait for Major John/Jay L to get this scene on one of their high-quality DVDs and I'll be all set!) So, thanks to Brian for his unparalleled website!!! And thanks to Major John, Jay L, Anubis, Kerhop, (and all the others who just got offended because I didn't mention them by name), who provide this community with the great clips and caps!!! |
| Mmmalph |
| Monday July 04 12:44:10 2005 A Friend of the Family - gag in Lifetime movie? |
| Caught a glimpse of what I think may have been a red ball gag in the promos for "A Friend of the Family," a Lifetime movie that airs at 9 p.m. tonight (Monday). It was a split-second thing and I may be wrong about what I saw, but it's probably worth keeping an eye on, just in case. |
| Boris |
| Monday July 04 12:53:48 2005 Re: A Friend of the Family - gag in Lifetime movie? |
| Boris wrote:
> Caught a glimpse of what I think may have been a red ball > gag in the promos for "A Friend of the Family," > a Lifetime movie that airs at 9 p.m. tonight (Monday). > It was a split-second thing and I may be wrong You are correct. I posted about this a few days back. I caught the promo and slowed it down. It shows a blonde tied to a chair and wearing a red ball gag. Looks like it's some kind of flashback scene. Also someone has already posted an alert for this based on another promo which shows a blonde tied with her hands above her head. The ball gagged blonde is definitely NOT the lead actress though. |
| CM |
| Monday July 04 13:35:19 2005 Rob Zombie's New Flick |
| Anyone here anything about the Devil's Rejects?
House of a Thousand Corpses had a few great bondage scenes. |
| Help |
| Monday July 04 14:51:39 2005 one life to live |
| John just unbound Natalie and is now unbinding Evangi. Varies scene scattered throughout show. Started with killer setting the fires and John showing up later to find and rescuing them.
Tuesday may have flashbacks but unsure. Natalie just disappeared as the police arrive when John as Evangi on the floor. |
| civil |
| Monday July 04 14:57:00 2005 Re: one life to live |
| >may have flashbacks but unsure. Natalie just
> disappeared as the police arrive when John as Evangi on the floor. Scenerio ended today. Preview only shows her mom asking John about Natalie. John rescued Natalie first after she passed out. He laid her down then rescued Evangi. Then Bo enters and asks John where Natalie is and she is gone. Maybe 15 minutes of footage today after editting clips. |
| civil |
| Monday July 04 15:02:54 2005 OLTL |
| Main scene ended today with John rescuing Natalie and then Evangeline at end of show, with one caveat they couldn't find Natalie which means the villain may have come back and grabbed the unconscious Natalie while John was saving Evangeline. Scenes ran throughout show. Most were telegraphed by previous scenes. None that jumped directly from a commercial to a scene without giving you a chance to hit the record button. One exception though is Jessica slipping out of the hospital and Addie asking where she's going and there's then a cut to our scenes. Previews give no hint as to what happened to Natalie. Good scene throughout though I would have preferred more tight close-ups.
By the way forget about Adrianna, she and Duke outsmarted our usual inept soap villains and tied them up. |
| hallbird |
| Monday July 04 15:04:22 2005 Love, American Style |
| One of our local low-power TV stations gave us a little 4th of July present today, airing the "Love, American Style" vignette where a blond is tied to a tree wearing a white cleave gag.
Hadn't seen it in years. It's accurately described in DB entry #5510. On reviewing the scene again today, I don't think it's Phyllis Davis, but I don't know who it is. This was a minor holy grail for me, and much more fun to see than the hokey OLTL scenes this week. Speaking of OLTL, did you notice the tape wasn't sticky at all when the rescuer simply fulled it down from in front? And it seemed to me the cheerleader costumes had awfully long skirts. Nice dresses would have been sexier. Lighting was poor too. All-in-all, a disappointment as far as I'm concerned. |
| Gag Fan |
| Monday July 04 16:02:03 2005 Natalie's gag? |
| Great scene on Monday. No complaints from here. I thought the closeups were excellent, especially Evangeline, who looked like she had a new tape-gag on Monday, and just as tight as the last one.
As for Natalie, her gag went wider in the final minutes. Early in the episode, it was the single strip that was coming off her lips. Looks like someone came in and added a second strip on the lower half of the initial tape-gag, which she still worked off while struggling. In the rescue scenes, notice how John easily slips Natalie's tape-gag under her chin like it was an OTM gag. On Evangeline, he did the same, but it didn't come down that easily. |
| Monday July 04 16:44:34 2005 Can anyone elaborate? |
| Friends:
I stumbled across a film in the database titled "Girl in 3d" (record 11409) starring Bevin Tucker as a girl who agrees to become a struggling rock star's "Toy". She spends most of the movie in latex, hooded and gagged, according to the database. So hear's my question: can anyone tell me more about this film? I Googled the title and actress and found a handful of sites that mention it, largely in the UK. IMDB lists it, but the actress AND her role get no mention, and there's nothing about release dates. Worst of all, the movie's homepage at http://www.GirlIn3d.com is completely useless; it only offers you the chance to click a few pics and get "stats". Pathetic! Anywho, this film looks pretty promising for us. The actress is kept in a standing spreadeagle with one of those backless latex skirts, no visible panties. Sure sounds made for us! Oh, and a quick "Thank You" to Major John, Jay L, racingfan and of course Kerhopf for the outstanding work you've all been doing lately. You've always posted good work, but lately, every one of you has been outdoing yourselves, and I'm grateful. Cheers, Gents! Thanks also to the Mod for exhibiting a lot of patience and never giving up on the site. |
| The Kindly One |
| Monday July 04 17:11:41 2005 Soaps vs. Prime Time this year |
| > we have two women in cheerleader outfits gagged and tied to posts. I gotta say, this is what the Japanese would call "fanservice." Has prime-time come up with anything even close to this in terms of general bondage sexiness in the last year? Or are the soaps Da Winners in terms of mainstream bondage on TV
~~~ The Las Vegas "Hit Me!" episode, concluding with the bitchy blonde wife discovered gagged and hog-tied with yellow ribbon, as guest star Tony Orlando sings a live version of "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Old Tree" was a pretty surreal moment. I can visualize the scriptwriters kicking around different ideas for how to wind this episode up, and then one of *us* coming up with this suggestion... |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday July 04 18:14:37 2005 Re: Soaps vs. Prime Time this year |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> The Las Vegas "Hit Me!" episode, concluding > with the bitchy blonde wife discovered gagged and > hog-tied with yellow ribbon, Mmmm, that does sound tasty. Too much to hope that she was naked, I suppose? |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday July 04 18:20:44 2005 OLTL |
| As a Uk resident I'd like to add my thanks ro the Major for helping us see a scene that a few years ago would have passed us by. It is a great piece of melodrama.
It got me thinking though, what's the longest protracted kidnap/tie up in Soap history? Over here I think it was Family Affairs, Tina Russell spent 5 consecutive episodes tied hands behind, ankles and OTM gagged (must check to see if thats in the DB). The longest American one I've seen is Laura Harring's Sunset Beach episodes, which ran about 3 weeks IIRC, but maybe someone can top that. |
| moxx of balhoom |
| mike@timelord.wanadoo.co.uk |
| Monday July 04 18:58:52 2005 Re: Rob Zombie's New Flick |
| Help wrote:
> Anyone here anything about the Devil's Rejects? Dude. It's the Zombie. There's gonna be bondage. As an obsessed fan of horror, I got what cha' need to know. Latest issue of Fangoria features a brunette damsel in a few screen captures sporting a knotted cleave. She is wearing a button-up plaid shirt, and I believe undies. She's a bloody mess though, quite literaly .. So, it depends on how high your threshold for that kind of stuff is. By and by, it looks like it could be a winner. Also, Rob Zombie's wife will definitely be getting tied to a chair along with her reject partners by what I believe are bounty hunters. Fango revealed this as well. Stay tuned. In the meantime, I've got myself the clip from "Shallow Ground" with the LOVELY Natalie Avital bound arms overhead. It's a helluva scene, and I'd be up for trading. If you want, post in the trading section and we should be able to work out some business. |
| X |
| Monday July 04 19:01:46 2005 Re: OLTL |
| moxx of balhoom wrote:
> It got me thinking though, what's the longest protracted > kidnap/tie up in Soap history? > Over here I think it was Family Affairs, Tina Russell > spent 5 consecutive episodes tied hands behind, ankles > and OTM gagged (must check to see if thats in the DB). > I have that on tape somewhere, though the image quality is very poor owing to a combination of extreme range and dirty heads. It doesn't seem to be in the DB, which is surprising considering how much a correspondent praised it in these columns a few years ago. The show, on Channel 5, has a tiny audience compared with Coronation Street and Eastenders, and in fact still doesn't reach much of the UK. I can't receive it where I live now, in rural North Wales, for example. Certainly was a nice little set of scenes, though. Cutish blonde tied with red (IIRC) climbing rope and gagged OTM with a stretchy black woollen scarf. Held in at least three locations, hustled mmmphing through the darkness within yards of possible rescuers, multiply regagged on screen, chair tied and trying to work the (sometimes) tight gag off. Excellent facial close-ups, including terrified gagged misery as her insanely jealous captor cuts off a sample of her hair. If I can find the tape, I'll write up a detailed entry for the DB. (That is unless you've already done one while I've been typing this, Moxx. :-) BTW, a documentary on the history of ITV drama last night included a clip of The Avengers' Emma Peel being ducked like a witch in her purplish-red catsuit. That was the only bondage scene in the programme, even though Robin Hood, The Saint, The Persuaders, Danger Man (aka Secret Agent) and The Professionals were all featured. |
| Mad Dan |
| Monday July 04 19:53:20 2005 Las Vegas ("Hit Me!") |
| > > The Las Vegas "Hit Me!" episode,
concluding with the bitchy blonde wife discovered gagged and hog-tied with yellow ribbon, > > > > Mmmm, that does sound tasty. Too much to hope that she was naked, I suppose? ---- No, but she found in her hotel bed, lying on her side. Nudity + Bondage would be too much to hope for primetime network TV... but perhaps the clip could be sold to those "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" TV ads campaign... |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday July 04 20:20:39 2005 Re: Las Vegas ("Hit Me!") |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> but perhaps the clip could be sold to those > "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" TV ads > campaign... > Well, since it wasn't consensual ... and thus a criminal act ... I kinda sorta doubt it. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Monday July 04 20:36:53 2005 Re: Las Vegas ("Hit Me!") |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> No, but she found in her hotel bed, lying on her side. > > Nudity + Bondage would be too much to hope for primetime > network TV... but perhaps the clip could be sold to those > "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" TV ads > campaign... Yeah, very unlikely but it COULD happen because it HAS happened. There was an ep of Law n Order SVU a year or two ago where a damsel is found naked, bound and gagged with her own panties at the very beginning of the show. You coulda knocked me over with a feather ... |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday July 04 20:46:23 2005 Re: Las Vegas ("Hit Me!") |
| Biff wrote:
> Well, since it wasn't consensual ... and thus a criminal > act ... I kinda sorta doubt it. Yeah, but without the context of the rest of the show, the clip could just mean "consensual bondage fun." Certainly, the same sort of imagery in a different ep with a consensual scenario could be marketed that way. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday July 04 20:46:28 2005 Re: OLTL |
| Gag Fan wrote:
> > > Speaking of OLTL, did you notice the tape wasn't sticky > at all when the rescuer simply fulled it down from in > front? And it seemed to me the cheerleader costumes had > awfully long skirts. Nice dresses would have been > sexier. Lighting was poor too. All-in-all, a disappointment as far as I'm concerned. A disappointment??? Well, we do all have different tastes, but I find it hard to quibble with this scene. Personally, I could have used a little more "mmmphing", but that's being pretty damn nitpicky. We got: 1) Women in cheerleader outfits. (Long skirts? Natalie's skirt was short enough to give us a good look as the hero carried her to safety.) 2) Nice gags. I'm not usually much of a tape gag fan myself, but Evangaline's gag was mighty fine looking. You don't often see tape gags that look that tight. 3) Nice peril. (Although the hero would have had plenty of time to save both girls if he hadn't taken ten minutes to decide which one to save first.) 4) Did I mention the scene contained two (2) beautiful women? And we got a few different camera angles from which to enjoy them. Compared to the disappointment we usually get from soap opera storylines with bondage "potential", I think this one came through with flying colors! |
| Mmmalph |
| Monday July 04 21:03:43 2005 White Noise |
| Does anyone know anything about the tie & gag scene(s) in White Noise?? Like if they are anything to write home about, and when they occur in the movie? I looked in the Database but no entry, which is surprising considering that it's been mentioned quite a few times here. Has anyone seen it yet? |
| Monday July 04 21:04:58 2005 Re: OLTL |
| moxx of balhoom wrote:
It is a great piece of melodrama. Just a note for you overseas lads - today's episode will be going up later in the week, probably Thurs. |
| Major John |
| Monday July 04 21:07:38 2005 friend of the family |
| is anyone watching this movie right about now on lifetime? i just turned it on, missing the first 10 minutes or so. did anything happen? i know sometimes these movies open with the big bondage scene we've seen in previews (then we get the titles & credits, then the words "ten years later..." & the actual movie starts.
i want to see if i missed anything. thanks, RR |
| rob-roy |
| Monday July 04 21:53:47 2005 One Life to Live |
| > 3) Nice peril. (Although the hero would have had plenty of time to save both girls if he hadn't taken ten minutes to decide which one to save first.)
~~~~ I wonder if the OLTL scriptwriters got the dual cheerleaders peril idea from those infamous "Dear Abby" letters (with the return address of New Haven, CT = Yale University). :-) As Worf would say, "That... was a joke." (Like my remark about the "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" ad campaign.) |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday July 04 22:38:18 2005 Re: OLTL |
| > It got me thinking though, what's the longest protracted
> kidnap/tie up in Soap history? > Over here I think it was Family Affairs, Tina Russell > spent 5 consecutive episodes tied hands behind, ankles > and OTM gagged (must check to see if thats in the DB). > > The longest American one I've seen is Laura Harring's > Sunset Beach episodes, which ran about 3 weeks IIRC, but > maybe someone can top that. Longest one I've seen involving a woman was Martha Byrn's scene on AS THE WORLD TURNS years ago. That one seemed to go on for months. Though not with scenes on a daily. I think she got the treatment in three different locations while being held a prisoner. |
| hallbird |
| Monday July 04 22:41:55 2005 Re: One Life to Live |
| > I wonder if the OLTL scriptwriters got the dual
> cheerleaders peril idea from those infamous "Dear > Abby" letters (with the return address of New Haven, > CT = Yale University). :-) > What exactly was in that letter? Actually, I was thinking this plot ripped off a different advice column letter that's shown up a couple of times over the years: the 'he untied her before he untied me' problem (did you see the way Evangeline glared when he walked over to Natalie first). I think we're onto something here. |
| ss |
| Monday July 04 22:51:06 2005 Re: friend of the family |
| rob-roy wrote:
> is anyone watching this movie right about now on > lifetime? i just turned it on, missing the first 10 > minutes or so. did anything happen? i know sometimes > these movies open with the big bondage scene we've seen > in previews (then we get the titles & credits, then > the words "ten years later..." & the actual > movie starts. > i want to see if i missed anything. thanks, RR I've been half-watching this dreck from the beginning and it seems the only action is in the last 30 minutes. Actually, I have the sound off in one room, taping it in the other room as it's the only way I can get through it. It's gotta be one of the worst-acted movies I've ever seen...ok, the first half was, I couldn't subject myself to any more.... Anyway, there WAS a rare ball-gag scene (flashback), though if you're hoping the lead actress gets the treatment, looks like we're all in for a let-down. I duuno, it may be worth it for the flashback, but this movie is pretty f-ing weak... |
| Lee Van Cleave |
| Monday July 04 23:06:44 2005 The Inside is out |
| According to an article on Aint It Cool News, the creator of Fox's The Inside, Tim Minear, has stated that Fox is pulling the plug on the show. He says that Fox will only show three more episodes but that they wil likely release a DVD set of the first season. |
| Holden |
| Monday July 04 23:08:57 2005 Re: Asia Argento |
| Lindy Booth wrote:
> Just saw Land of the Dead (great movie) and although I > didn't find Asia Argento very attractive in xXx I found I > could not freakin stop staring at her in this film! I'm glad you found Asia attractive in Land of the Dead. For one thing, as far as her role in XXX to LOTD, she sheds A LOT of make-up. Asia's one of the actresses that isn't mind blowingly hot in he classic hollywood way, but she's got a good body and fetching features. I too, would love to see her Italian movie scenes. In one, her father (Dario Argento) directed it .. Imagine that. Filming your own daughter in full treatment. I bet it would be uncomfortable. |
| X |
| Monday July 04 23:11:02 2005 Re: Las Vegas ("Hit Me!") |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> Yeah, but without the context of the rest of the show, > the clip could just mean "consensual bondage > fun." > But that's just the point ... it *is* within the context of the story, and it's known to be so. There's no shifting it. The theme of the ads is risqué enjoyment ... not false imprisonment. > Certainly, the same sort of imagery in a > different ep with a consensual scenario could be marketed that way. > I think we're in the realm of the uberhypothetical here, but anyway, it would make far more sense to film something specifically for the ad than to glom a bit from a series. Regarding the scene in question, I think you said you haven't seen it, and I don't know if you can tell from my cap set, but beyond the context, it really isn't realized in a way that would work for that purpose. |
| Biff |
| Monday July 04 23:15:21 2005 Re: friend of the family |
| > I duuno, it may be worth it for the flashback, but this movie is pretty f-ing weak...
occurs around the the 45 to 30 minutes before end of movie. Short of a flashback of women talking about a lady found in a warehouse and had a ball in her mouth. The next scene is the star having a flashback of a lady seating with her hands bound behind her in a chair with a ballgag. There was a quick closeup of a side view of her face with the ballgag. The lady was not the star. |
| Monday July 04 23:59:39 2005 Re: OLTL |
| hallbird wrote:
> > It got me thinking though, what's the longest > protracted > > kidnap/tie up in Soap history? > > Over here I think it was Family Affairs, Tina > Russell > > spent 5 consecutive episodes tied hands behind, > ankles > > and OTM gagged (must check to see if thats in the > DB). > > > > The longest American one I've seen is Laura > Harring's > > Sunset Beach episodes, which ran about 3 weeks IIRC, > but > > maybe someone can top that. I think the Stephanie Cameron- Days episodes were longer but I may be wrong. They seemed to go on forever and I remember thinking how amazing it was how long they went. One of the things I like about the soaps is that they can keep a single conversation last a week or two, but here a couple of damsels in distress get found in less than two episodes. Soaps give the best and make you sit through the worst, and I have to give it to Anubis- Natalie's gag is less than functional. It looks like she's holding it up. The scene though is brilliant- I doubt we will see two women tied/taped in such a manner in the next twenty years, if ever. Gracias OLTL writers. |
| Soapfan |
| Monday July 04 23:59:48 2005 Re: The Inside is out |
| Holden wrote:
> According to an article on Aint It Cool News, the creator > of Fox's The Inside, Tim Minear, has stated that Fox is > pulling the plug on the show. He says that Fox will only > show three more episodes but that they wil likely release > a DVD set of the first season. The networks never cease to amaze me. Just play out the string and run the episodes you paid for. Nobody is watching network TV in the summer anyway. Anything they put in its place will likely do no better in the ratings. And just because Fox says they'll run 3 more episodes doesn't mean they will. This could be gone by this week. Hopefully, the 2-hour one will be broadcast. |
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