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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Tuesday June 14 00:04:01 2005 Re: Funny Games |
| Anubis wrote:
> Good actress, check out the facial expression. Never see > a scene like that in a US film. Uh, have you ever seen the original TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE? That was a very realstic looking scene! |
| Legend of the Wolf |
| Tuesday June 14 00:23:30 2005 Re: Moderating Cap Requests |
| Frank J wrote:
> Jay, I for one never felt like it was a chore Great to know Buddy. Intented it to be for laughs. This been brewing for awhile. I read US posters raving about a scene and I want a look at it as well. So understand wanting to ask. But understand cappers too haven't been sending many tapes to cappers for awhile since becoming aware of the problem Except the Major, of course. I still clutter up his place with tapes to clip. Good thing there a beer store on the way to his place incase I have to bribe him huh? ;) |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday June 14 00:29:25 2005 The All-Time Most Disturbing Scene ( in my opinion ) |
| While you guys have picked some really good ones (ie. Funny Games), I recall seeing a foreign one a looong time ago, that was extremely graphic and sleazy in nature. After a few internet searches, I found it's name was "Giallo a Venezia".
The movie is like a porn featuring excessive violence. Some of the effects aren't mindblowing per say, but the mentalities of the killings are pretty sick. One woman is tied naked to her kitchen table, gagged with white tape, while the killer (menacing in his aviators), slowly saws one of her legs off -- And you see it. When she falls unconcious, he smacks her to wake her up. NOT PRETTY. Of course, the Japanese have some really bad scenes in their "guinea pig" series. Pure filth. You can see Giallo's review and dare I say caps at the attached site. |
| X |
| http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/giallo_a_venezia.htm |
| Tuesday June 14 00:40:02 2005 Re: One Favour? |
| Jay L wrote:
> Tapemaster wrote: > > > Whenever I post a relatively late VCR alert, I > always > > mention it on Discussion as well > You've been here awhile. So you aware why this and other > things mentioned and who is considered showing favourtism > again. I think what Tapemaster is trying to say is that for short notice, it's good to post here. I agree with that, most people tend to read this forum first. It's been fairly standard to do that, so I'd have to say that what he did was in keeping with the spirit if not the exact letter of the rules. |
| Brian R |
| Tuesday June 14 01:44:33 2005 Re: Another identification challange |
| Jos wrote:
> It features a DID and a putz. They are B&G-d together > in the back of a van by the bad guys, and they try to > make noise with their feet (bound together) when the good > guys come. They don't notice them and leave. It recalls me the italian movie "Africa Express" with Ursula Andress and Giuliano Gemma as the lead characters. |
| dean1 |
| Tuesday June 14 02:03:29 2005 Re: Another identification challange |
| > It recalls me the italian movie "Africa
> Express" with Ursula Andress and Giuliano Gemma as > the lead characters. Yes, that might be it! Thanks for the ID. I just love Ursula Andress :) If anyone has the scene, pls contact me for a trade! |
| Jos |
| josdids@gmail.com |
| Tuesday June 14 02:09:49 2005 Re: disturbing scenes/Funny Games |
| The Kindly One wrote:
> Yeah that is exactly the sort of stringent bondage I > meant, Jacot. And her acting was pretty convincing, which > is also what made the painful parts so tough. To answer > your question, it's been a while since I saw this and I > only watched it once, but my recollection is that we > definitely see her enter the water. I THINK but am not > certain that we see her underwater, briefly, sinking and > trying to escape. The bondage before that is excellent, > though, with a multi-layer gag. Judging by her faint > noises, she's heavily packed. The bonds are again strict, > the scene long, and the movie torments us by showing her > trying to cut her bonds with a previously concealed > knife. The lunatics comment on her efforts, for those who like bondage-talk in mainstream movies... I have the DVD and they do NOT show her hit the water or even under water. They show her in the boat and then she's tossed over the side and you hear her hit the water but it's not shown. And being so effectively bound and gagged I'm sure she never even entered the water or if she did they probably had someone on the other side of the boat to catch her and/or bring her up once she was out of view of the camera. |
| Tuesday June 14 02:28:27 2005 Another one |
| If you are still not bored, here is another scene for identification.
A girl and a putz is taken hostage. As I remember, they are blindfolded and gagged with a special device (sort of a leather gag or something - like the one in Dune). They think that they are taken somewhere far away, while they are only taken a few blocks away, and shown gagged again, in another scene. Any ideas? Thanks. |
| Jos |
| josdids@gmail.com |
| Tuesday June 14 03:19:53 2005 TV Tome |
| Did they get bought out or something? The new interface is really sh1tty and doesn't give the episodes in the "4x01" format (Episode "42" instead)
Ads all over the place too. Shame... |
| AsbestosFilter |
| AsbestosFilter@gmail.com |
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps |
| Tuesday June 14 06:38:59 2005 Re: Funny Games |
| Legend of the Wolf wrote:
> Uh, have you ever seen the original TEXAS CHAINSAW > MASSACRE? That was a very realstic looking scene! of course I have, its both my favorite horror movie and Did scene. But Marilyn Burns bondage was sparse compared to Funny Games, a gag and ropes around her wrists, then wrists tied to a chair with no gag. She wasn't put through half the horrors that the Funny Games DiD was put through. Ms Burns onscreen bondage was just a fraction of the screen time of the bondage in Funny Games and her torture was more implied than explicit, and the DiD didnt make it out of Funny games alive. Funny Games was more brutal and extreme bondage. |
| Anubis |
| Tuesday June 14 09:17:45 2005 Re: Funny Games |
| Anubis wrote:
> Legend of the Wolf wrote: > > > Uh, have you ever seen the original TEXAS CHAINSAW > > MASSACRE? That was a very realstic looking scene! > > > She wasn't put through half the horrors that the Funny > Games DiD was put through. Ms Burns onscreen bondage was > just a fraction of the screen time of the bondage in > Funny Games and her torture was more implied than > explicit, and the DiD didnt make it out of Funny games > alive. > Funny Games was more brutal and extreme bondage. Of course, I agree with what you are saying, but I remember being horrifiedthe first time I saw Burns's scene. Then I read somewhere, in a non-DID situation, that there was very little fakery involved with the scene in TCSM. Burns was really experiencing the full brunt of the ropes and gag, which was an old rag that just happened to be on the soundstage, and that very little was faked. I am not saying that the scene was "real" in that Burns was an unwilling participant, but she reallly endured the harshness of the scene. But, now, looking back on that, I get the sinking suspicion that that discription may have been part of the marketing for the movie! The FUNNY GAMES scenes are really tough, but with the background info on the TCSM scene, I always considered that more horrific. As for the Damsel not surviving, you are right about that! Like in the Bone Collector, I don't find that kind of ending "amusing". I have always enjoyed realism in scenes, and the demise of a DID is not always a turn off. I remember BRIAN R. once stating that the first scene he taped was a DRAGNET scene, and as I recall, the DID in the photo had already shuffled off this mortal coil, yet still looked appealing in her hogtie! |
| Legend of the Wolf |
| Tuesday June 14 09:37:05 2005 Re: Oversized images |
| The Engineer wrote:
> Kerhop wrote: > > > While I agree oversized pictures should not be > posted, is > > it possible there's a technical solution to this > much > > like how the web site tells you whether you quoted > too > > much text or putting your reply above/below the > previous > > comment? > > Not that I know of. > > > Seems code could be written to obtain the dimensions > of > > the picture being posted and if it's too big don't > let it > > post but advise to instead put a link to it instead. > If > > dimension information is hard to obtain (i.e. due to > > > different image formats) then base it on the size of > the > > picture and dont let anything more than say... 25k > be > > allowed). > > Do you know of a way to have the <img> tag do that? > > I sure don't. I don't know of any way to get either > dimension or filesize info through HTML. > > It's not like these images are being uploaded or something. You can define a consistent height & width for images to display on your page using CSS. Adding class="" to the <img> tag and setting a style definition in your style sheet. Problem is you can't control the original size of the image and some may appear distorted when sized into the pre-defined size limits. No way to obtain file size through CSS that I know of. Might help to some degree? |
| BiG MT |
| bigmt991@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday June 14 10:12:47 2005 The Inside |
| This week's episode:
The June 15th episode of "The Inside" is "Old Wounds." The VCU is after another serial killer when Paul's former co-worker, a federal prosecutor, is murdered. They suspect their prime suspect meets his victims at an S&M club. Rebecca is attracted to one of its regulars. In the premiere she was "bait" for a serial killer and now she is attracted to an S&M club regular(hopefully on an ongoing basis :)). And these are only the first 2 episodes. This sounds promising. Hope the show follows through on the setup. I better find a new VHS tape before tomorrow.... |
| BiG MT |
| bigmt991@yahoo.com |
| http://www.fox.com/theinside/ |
| Tuesday June 14 13:57:45 2005 Re: Funny Games |
| Legend of the Wolf wrote:
> Then I read somewhere, in a non-DID situation, > that there was very little fakery involved with the scene > in TCSM. Burns was really experiencing the full brunt of > the ropes and gag, which was an old rag that just > happened to be on the soundstage, and that very little > was faked. This is accurate. Theres a GREAT book called "Texas Chgainsaw Massacre Companion" by Stefan Jaworzyn which is basically a collection of interviews by the cast and crew. They get really into detail about what Marilyn Burns had to put up with for the shoot, and the entire sequence was filmed in one night under guerilla conditions. The lack of fakery behind the scenes is what impresses me the most on this scene, I'm not a big fan of Hollywood bondage, I prefer independent films with low budgets and unknown actresses. Chainsaw is probably one of the FEW films that I would recommend NOT getting the DVD version of if you are just interested in the bondage scenes. The film was filmed in fullscreen, but was cropped for widescreen release. Also, the DVD has been "restored" to a darker, murkier state. The video master is overexposed which means everything is MUCH brighter and easier to see. Most notable is in the gas station, where you cant see the tying and gagging on the DVD at all because its so dark, but is crystal clear on the VHS release. |
| Anubis |
| http://www.anuvids.com/ |
| Tuesday June 14 14:09:23 2005 Re: disturbing scenes/Funny Games |
| Jacot wrote:
> Considering how effectively she was tied and gagged, it > must have been a real challenge for the safety divers to > get air to her while they got her to the surface. As far as I know, she was not shown being pushed into the water. I only heard a splash in the version I saw. Only an insanely irresponsible director would allow someone stringently bound and gagged to be dumped into deep water from a moving boat. |
| C |
| Tuesday June 14 14:20:19 2005 HIGH CRIMES query |
| Does anyone have a good idea of the timing for Amanda Peet's scene, airing tonight (see Alerts)? The DB entry simply states that it's in the first hour.
Thanks advanced. |
| Biff |
| http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff |
| Tuesday June 14 14:33:36 2005 Re: HIGH CRIMES query |
| It's not a favourite of mine, due to the " blink and you'd miss it " briefness of the scene.
As my memory serves, it occurs roughly halfway though the movie. |
| C |
| Tuesday June 14 14:36:44 2005 Re: Funny Games |
| Anubis wrote:
> Good actress, check out the facial expression. Never see > a scene like that in a US film. She's probably not acting ! I'd say it'd be pretty hard to breathe through that sucker. |
| C |
| Tuesday June 14 14:49:50 2005 indentification? |
| does anyone recall a scene in a western, in which a black actress is being hanged, and the sherriff decides to cleave gag her? it has stuck in my memory because i just couldn't figure out the necessity for gagging a woman who would be dead momentarily....not that I'm complaining, mind you. thanks in advance |
| el tinko |
| Tuesday June 14 14:59:04 2005 Re: indentification? |
| el tinko wrote:
> does anyone recall a scene in a western, in which a black > actress is being hanged, and the sherriff decides to > cleave gag her? Sounds like "Gang of Roses", featuring the lovely Stacey Dash, easily one of my favorite black women in Hollywood. She had an awesome tape gag scene in the Richard Pryor comedy "Moving", though I havn't seen it online since Masterbind had it up on his pages. Good stuff. |
| X |
| Tuesday June 14 15:24:17 2005 Re: Guiding Light |
| > Coverage of the Michael Jackson trial verdict interrupted
> Guiding Light in Los Angeles today for the entire show. > Did anything happen to Gina Tognoni? Someone mentioned > that a spoiler for the show said that "Dinah is > abducted" during the week of June 13-17. The link has a history of the character with an interesting item from about 1995. It's apparantly not in the DB (Wendy Moniz played the character at the time). "Meanwhile, Dinah had found a perfect way to get money--she'd arrange for Viktor to kidnap her and they'd split the ramsom money. Unfortunately for Dinah, Viktor double crossed her and left her tied up while he decided to ask for more money (which he'd keep for himself)... When Matt left the briefcase near the railroad tracks for Viktor, instead of going back home, he instinctively went to the abandoned underground factory and found Dinah there tied up and gagged. He immediately released her gag, while Viktor found the money and headed back to the abandoned factory. Viktor arrived just as Matt was almost done untying the rope around Dinah's hands." |
| http://www.soapcentral.com/gl/whoswho/dinah.php |
| Tuesday June 14 15:31:38 2005 Sounds good but major putz alert |
| "Variety reports that Elisha Cuthbert (House of Wax) is set to star in Captivity, a Roland Joffe-directed thriller.
Elisha Cuthbert will play a fashion model who, along with a chauffeur, gets kidnapped and held in a small room by a serial killer. While the psycho methodically terrorizes them, the victims draw strength from each other and fall in love. Based on a script by Larry Cohen (Phone Booth, Cellular), Captivity will be the first true Russian-American co-production, according to producer Mark Damon. Captivity will shoot at Moscow-based Mosfilm Studios for a fraction of what it would have cost to film in another European city or U.S. location." |
| bunga |
| http://toronto.fashion-monitor.com/news.php/toronto_movies/2005053107elisha_cuthbert |
| Tuesday June 14 16:23:25 2005 Re: Jessica Alba |
| H wrote:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=603 > 29&item=7522546448&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Another one. Looks like the tape is wrapped around her head. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60329&item=7522546845&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| H |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60329&item=7522546845&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| Tuesday June 14 16:35:42 2005 Re: Jessica Alba |
| H wrote:
> Another one. Looks like the tape is wrapped around her > head. I wonder who would buy something like this off of eBay .. You could spare yourself some trouble, buy some photo paper, and print your own off. |
| X |
| Tuesday June 14 16:43:39 2005 Re: Jessica Alba |
| X wrote:
> I wonder who would buy something like this off of eBay .. > You could spare yourself some trouble, buy some photo > paper, and print your own off. I know, and for a helluva lot cheaper than they're asking for. |
| Not a Guest |
| Tuesday June 14 16:48:23 2005 Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| I've been looking around on the internet a little, and it appears that in the mid-60s, Diana Rigg made a number of short films (7 min. each) where she plays an Emma Peel-like character. Rumors abound as to who they were made for and where (Germany? Spain? For some guy who could pay her a ton of cash...?), but it seems that they are silent films. Has anyone ever seen them or have more definitive info? I've included a link that has a description of one of them, and a picture. And, yes, Diana is supposed to be bound and gagged in this episode, although the pic seems to show her bound, but not gagged.
One thing I found intriguing when looking into this was the notion of a very wealthy man who could hire a famous actress to appear in some home movies, and thus fulfill a (very expensive, I'm sure) wish of seeing her bound and gagged. http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Avengers/Minikillers4.htm |
| Steed |
| Tuesday June 14 17:00:14 2005 Re: Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| Steed wrote:
> > One thing I found intriguing when looking into this was > the notion of a very wealthy man who could hire a famous > actress to appear in some home movies, and thus fulfill a > (very expensive, I'm sure) wish of seeing her bound and > gagged. > > http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Avengers/Minikillers4.htm Not sure if anyone cares, but here are two more links that explain more about these odd short films...except for any details on the bondage! http://members.aol.com/shockcin/diadem.html http://deadduck.theavengers.tv/diadem.htm |
| Steed |
| Tuesday June 14 17:17:26 2005 Re: Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| I'd pay a fair price for the privilege |
| D Trump |
| http://ddr.theavengers.tv/films/minikillers1.jpg |
| Tuesday June 14 17:25:14 2005 Re: Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| Who wants to make a bid? |
| http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=309&item=6405922830&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| Tuesday June 14 17:35:30 2005 Re: Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| > Who wants to make a bid?
Or buy a video? She would have two bondage scenes in Mini-killers |
| http://www.5minutesonline.com/1D/DIANARIGG.htm |
| Tuesday June 14 18:24:29 2005 Re: Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| Steed wrote:
> Not sure if anyone cares, but here are two more links > that explain more about these odd short films...except > for any details on the bondage! The covers speak well, don't they? |
| AOF |
| Tuesday June 14 20:27:35 2005 Most disturbing scenes |
| Surprised none of the oldtimers mentioned "Don't Go In the House" with a cutie acting under the name Johanna Brushay (always wondered what her real name was and whatever happened to her) suspended nude, doused with gasoline and burned alive. Several other victims get the same treatment, but we only see the whole process once.
Also a more recent one comes to mind: "Blowback" with Erynn Dana Dalton tied to an upside-down cross, then nailed to it with a pneumatic gun. |
| Fettershackle |
| Tuesday June 14 20:36:14 2005 Re: Emma Peel bondage mystery |
| D Trump wrote:
> I'd pay a fair price for the privilege Hmmm, that's well fakeable, innit? Some kind person even left some rope lying around. Just gotta get rid of those horrible jpeg outlines and find a few 48-hour days.... |
| Mad Dan |
| Tuesday June 14 20:37:49 2005 Re: TV Tome |
| AsbestosFilter wrote:
> Did they get bought out or something? The new interface > is really sh1tty and doesn't give the episodes in the > "4x01" format (Episode "42" instead) Gurg. You're right, that's bad. I'll have to change the recommended source for episode numbers to epguides, they are still using the old format at least, looks like. |
| Brian R |
| Tuesday June 14 20:42:24 2005 Re: Oversized images |
| BiG MT wrote:
> You can define a consistent height & width for images > to display on your page using CSS. Adding > class="" to the <img> tag and setting a > style definition in your style sheet. > Problem is you can't control the original size of the > image and some may appear distorted when sized into the > pre-defined size limits. Right, and as we have all different sizes and dimensions, I don't think that would work well. It also doesn't help with the actual filesize, the image may look smaller but it's just as much data to transfer. It isn't a huge problem, just every now and then. I need to work out a "linkify" button for me to use. Right now I have to manually edit the message to turn an <img> into an <a href>. |
| The Engineer |
| Tuesday June 14 21:00:37 2005 Re: Most disturbing scenes |
| Fettershackle wrote:
> Surprised none of the oldtimers mentioned "Don't Go > In the House" with a cutie acting under the name > Johanna Brushay (always wondered what her real name was > and whatever happened to her) suspended nude, doused with > gasoline and burned alive. Several other victims get the > same treatment, but we only see the whole process once. That is a good scene. It's been quite awhile since I have seen it. The video store I rented it from BURNED DOWN shortly after I returned it. Kinda freaky, ain't it! But, getting back to the scene, what stops it from being a horrific scene (in my opinion!) is that the special effects make it look fake. There is some nice struggling as she wakes up, and even more before she is torched and realizes what is about to happen to her. |
| Legend of the Wolf |
| legendofthewolf@yahoo.com |
| http://www.rateitall.com |
| Tuesday June 14 23:26:14 2005 Re: Oversized images |
| The Engineer wrote:
> I have to manually edit the message to turn an > <img> > into an <a href>. Actually, I wouldn't mind if active images were removed altogether from the page and just have ALL <img> tags converted into <a href>. If one wants to see it they can click on it (perhaps include a target="random text" with the image opening in a new window so one doesn't lose thier place in the forum). |
| Kerhop |
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