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| Sunday July 25 00:40:28 2004 Re: 'Missing'? (quality) |
| > later she was shown again in a few shots that didn't
> amount to much more than was shown in the previews. It will be interesting to see how Dead Zone pans out Sunday night. I get the feeling that what you see in the preview will be what's in the show. It seems ultra quick cuts are becoming standard substitutions for good writing and acting as a device for heightening tension and creating drama. I also don't think any TV show is ever going to linger on the bondage unless the tie up is the point of the plot. I hold out hope a show may come along that holds on to the dramatic tension of a DID say, at least as much as the original Avengers did... but I'm not holding my breath. I'm not an historical expert on mainstream DID and I don't keep count, but I would bet there have been way more "blink and you'll miss it" scenes in recent years than any other time period. The "why" of this I believe is mostly a style trend, and just maybe a bit of something else more complex. |
| Sunday July 25 11:21:04 2004 Update |
| GreyWeb has been updated this weekend. |
| Vince Grey |
| vincegrey@greyweb.org |
| http://www.greyweb.org |
| Sunday July 25 11:24:59 2004 TV/movie bifurcation |
| I agree with the point made in the previous post about the increase in very, very brief scenes on TV. The weird thing is, movies seem to be going in the OPPOSITE direction, with more lengthy DiD scenes, more strongly presented.
I'm talking "Love Object," "Spun" "Devil's Prey" "Bad Karma" and "Cold Heart" all of which had nude/lingerie bondage that were either a lengthy single scene or several scenes. And of course, with TV you've also gotta make a distinction for the soaps, which, let's face it, are doing a LOT of lengthy bondage scenes (to judge from all the posts). Hell, last year they had a damsel bound in bra and panties and another bound in a wedding dress. Nah, this trend toward split-second bondage scenes is strictly a prime time TV phenomenon. Partly, it might be a result of the trend toward police procedurals as the reigning dramatic form in network TV, which remains the main source of new dramatic programming. I read a quote from a network executive who said, "The simple fact is, if you want to be in the network television, you have to be programming police procedurals." Now, I LIKE police procedurals -- I think Law and Order and CIS are very well written shows, and their clones are often well written, too, with focus on plotting rather than characterization. But in such shows, the emphasis is on how the mystery will be solved, who will be guilty, etc., and as a result, you don't get the long, played out DiD scenes. Most of the time, you just seen a bound damsel when she's rescued, with her bonds removed within seconds. As has been notied, Missing bucks this trend. But it is also badly written, though not as badly written as, say, Crossing Jordan, a police procedural which AFAIK has had no DiD scenes. Sooner or later folks will get bored with police procedurals, as they do with most dramatic forms, and hopefully someone will reinvent the P.I. story in a way that'll make it more modern or interesting. More likely, Arabian advneture stories will get a badly needed update. (Check my homepage link for an article about how badly that genre has gone). The interesting question is, why have movies gone so heavily for lengthy, tasty, relatively well done DiD scenes. It's almost like a lot of indie producers read this page and take notes. My guess would be, the prevalence of bondage sites and bondage erotic on the Web is influencing the hipper, freer indie filmmakers in ways that haven't yet been seen in more staid productions. I mean, the scenes in "Spun" and "Love Object" and "Bad Karma" are right out there ... Spun and Bad Karma both have naked damsels tied to beds, one for sex and one for torture, and Love Object sounds like its scenes are pretty much heavy duty stuff you'd ordinarily see only on a bondage website. TV will probably catch up with this trend in the movies ... in about ten years. |
| Pat Powers |
| http://www.jollyroper.com/nobondz/harem/harem.html |
| Sunday July 25 12:00:46 2004 Stargate "forsaken" |
| I search the Promo pic from Stargate SG1 "Forsagen" where Amanda tapping is gagged with the black tape. Anyone can send me pls?? Thx a lot |
| Barnes |
| Barnes1000@t-online.de |
| Sunday July 25 12:07:33 2004 Re: Update |
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> GreyWeb has been updated this weekend. > http://www.greyweb.org good work on the makeover |
| Sunday July 25 12:22:16 2004 Re: Update |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
GreyWeb has been updated this weekend. http://www.greyweb.org good work on the makeover I concur Good Job Vince! |
| Snowcat |
| Sunday July 25 18:11:49 2004 May I take everyone's silence on the issue... |
| ...as well as the absence of a newly-minted database entry to the contrary, as evidence of the fact that there's nothing in "Catwoman?"
Too bad if there isn't, because if the critics are right, there's no reason left to go see it. According to most of them, it stinks. |
| An Old Friend |
| Sunday July 25 18:14:46 2004 Re: Stargate "forsaken" |
| Barnes wrote:
> I search the Promo pic from Stargate SG1 > "Forsagen" where Amanda tapping is gagged with > the black tape. Anyone can send me pls?? Thx a lot Please do not post asking for caps to be emailed to you. This board is for general discussion not private communications. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday July 25 22:41:04 2004 Foyle's War Alert? |
| The second series of the British ITV series "Foyle's War" is airing in the US on PBS. (Check your local listings.) It's a Mystery set in 1940 England. Foyle is a Chief Inspector in Hastings (right in the bullseye of Operation Sealion) & it's VERY GOOD! What really makes it for me is his freckled, redhaired driver, Samantha "Sam" Stewart. She's the perfect English Rose, cute as the proverbial button in her neat little uniform. ANYhoo... the episode I'm waiting to start at 9PM ("Among the Few") has Sam going undercover at a fuel depot. The previews show her banging on a locked door & yelling for "HELP!!!", intercut with a closeup of a ticking bomb!!! Poor Sam!!! Dare we hope for a nice capture scene with hand-gag, chloroform, etc.? Was she bound & gagged, slipped her ropes & *then* started banging on the door? Will Van *ever* stop setting himself up for crushing disappointment? (It's a GREAT hour of television, regardless.) :-)
P.S.: The actress playing Sam is Honeysuckle Weeks! Is that a great name, or what? :-) |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/ |
| Sunday July 25 23:53:39 2004 Anything |
| Was there anything in Dead Zone? |
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