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| Sunday July 04 00:04:03 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> Maybe Brian's idea of possibly "beefing up the instructions" would help the database entries. One of the new instructions could be to mention if there is a gag, and not to omit such an indication. Speaking as strictly a rope-snob, for me gags add a great deal to the bondage effect, and even though I personally wouldn't limit any search to "gags only" I can understand those who would find it useful. My only concern is that there would be those who prefer cleave over otm, or duct tape over cloth, bandanas over rags, wadding vs. no wadding. My point is that you'll never be able to please everyone, so I'm not convinced that this is such a hot idea..where would it end? Also concerned that it would take someone a great deal of time and effort, with the value-added being minimal. |
| Mark O |
| Sunday July 04 00:43:47 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
| > Speaking as strictly a rope-snob,
I'm one as well. The funny thing is that it would be hard to make the database sort scenes by rope. Most descriptions say something like "hands tied behind", and no mention of the tying material, which is assumed to be rope unless otherwise stated. At least gags are something that specifically have to be mentioned if they occur, thus giving the gag snobs something to work in their favor. > My point is that you'll never be > able to please everyone, so I'm not convinced that this > is such a hot idea..where would it end? Also concerned True, the idea was to add only one feature to the database at first, and possibly more later. But I easily see the logic in the "don't start" argument (and the "floodgates" argument it's attached to). > that it would take someone a great deal of time and > effort, with the value-added being minimal. It would specifically help searchers who want certain types of scenes. Those who tend to seek out names of movies that catch their eye, or check the most recent entries, would end up reading the description anyway and thus find their relevant info. So yeah, I do think that since these "checkboxes" would help only searchers who want to glance, it would be minimal value. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday July 04 04:05:52 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
| Jazz411 wrote:
*****Speaking as strictly a rope-snob****** "I'm one as well. The funny thing is that it would be hard to make the database sort scenes by rope. Most descriptions say something like "hands tied behind", and no mention of the tying material" ____________________________________________________ Searching "Tied" will get you mostly rope scenes. Favour asked was "bound with chains", bound....with tape, and cuffed. Tried to implement that whilst going through. |
| Jay L |
| Sunday July 04 04:35:16 2004 Re: PI Spiderman- Chained Scene? |
| > Searching "Tied" will get you mostly rope
> scenes. > Favour asked was "bound with chains" Whilst on this, did check into the Philippine Islands Spiderman. Gagamboy (2004) There is a bound wrists in front with chains scene. Favouring Aubrey Miles as actress. |
| Jay L |
| http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0392023/ |
| Sunday July 04 04:45:34 2004 One Life to Live |
| Has anyone been paying attention to this soap? (I've had to stop montoring it to keep an eye on ATWT.) When I walked in from work Friday I caught a glimpse of someone picking up the lovely Adriana and sprinting her away while everyone was looking the other direction. (Except a camcorder that I'm going to bet was forgotfully left on.)
I didn't see who the grabber was and she wasn't handgagged so she could have easily yelp for her friends standing three feet away. Maybe it was just her boyfriend stealing her away for some time alone. But soaps aren't known for being logical and the crying for help might have just been left out. (These are the assumptions one makes after only seeing five seconds of TV.) The only mention of her this week is Tuesday's "John is alarmed when he can't find Adriana." (and she is currently #2 on my Daytime Actress Wishlist.) |
| G-MaN |
| http://tvlistings2.zap2it.com/search.asp |
| Sunday July 04 05:46:57 2004 Greetings |
| Happy 4th folks!! |
| Kenny |
| Sunday July 04 06:14:16 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
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>>>>>>>>Jazz411 wrote:<<<<<< >>>The bottom line for other people is different.<<<< Believe me, I realize that, which is why I said my views on this are slanted. It's a tough call to decide what is good for everyone without over-loading the system. >>>>>>the "gag snobs" are a very vocal group, regardless of whether they are the majority or simply a minority with very strong views.<<<<< On this, it would shock me if us gag-snobs weren't at least 70%-80% of the whole who post here. I base this on the posts themselves. Good gag scenes generate a HUGE amount of posts and interest, while non-gag scenes tend to fade away quickly, if mentioned at all. Perhaps a poll would decide the issue? >>>>I see similar special interest groups pop up on other message boards,<<<<<< Much like our society, majority should rule except in cases of blatant rights violations. IOW, you can't please everyone. >>>>>I also see the inherent usefulness of a "Gag: Yes/No" indicator on database entries.<<<<<< Yatzee! That is exactly what I'm talking about adding. >>>> I think though we should start with something that would benefit more people first. Such as the "is the scene worth it" question.<<<<< The problem here is subjectivity. For instance, the Scooby Doo/SMG scene would have been, for me, a total waste of time with it's loosey, flimsy, gag but for the fact it was SMG's first and only (To this point) gag scene. That point alone made it a classic "must see, must have". |
| The Greyman |
| Sunday July 04 07:16:57 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
| The Greyman wrote:
> On this, it would shock me if us gag-snobs weren't at > least 70%-80% of the whole who post here. I base this on > the posts themselves. Good gag scenes generate a HUGE > amount of posts and interest, while non-gag scenes tend > to fade away quickly, if mentioned at all. Perhaps a poll > would decide the issue? Defining "gag-snob" as one who believes that a gag is a defining element of bondage, rather than a preference, let me cast the first vote - Not a gag-snob here. |
| Mark O |
| Sunday July 04 10:02:11 2004 Happy Independence Day |
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This post was moved to The Bulletin Board. Poster: The Greyman Reason: Off-topic political. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday July 04 10:02:51 2004 Re: Happy Independence Day |
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This post was moved to The Bulletin Board. Poster: skezemuth Reason: Off-topic political. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday July 04 11:19:14 2004 Happy Birthday |
| Happy Birthday Yanks, from one of your Allies across the pond! :-) |
| Martin |
| Sunday July 04 11:38:41 2004 Nancy Drew PC Games |
| Saw about half a dozen Nancy Drew PC games at BestBuy yesterday.
No idea if they are based on the old series, new series, or totally new for PC gaming. Has anybody checked them out ? Happy 4th everybody !!!!! |
| Jacot |
| Sunday July 04 13:26:28 2004 Re: Nancy Drew PC Games |
| Jacot wrote:
> Saw about half a dozen Nancy Drew PC games at BestBuy > yesterday. > Did a search for "Nancy Drew" "walkthrough" "tied" to find info on them. Figured walkthroughs - guides which teach you every solution to every puzzle in a game - would mention if someone got tied up. That said, I found some walkthroughs to several of the PC games, in which rescuing someone tied up inevitably happens: "go down the steps and through the sealed door, passed the pool and into the warehouse, you will find Katie gagged and tied up in a chair" - excerpt from http://www.adventureworld.netfirms.com/Danger_on_Deception_Island_walkthrough.htm Other guides for other Nancy Drew games: http://www.adventureworld.netfirms.com/nancydrewwalkthrough.htm http://www.the-spoiler.com/ADVENTURE/Her.interactive/nancy.drew.ghost.dogs.of.moon.lake.1/NDGDOMLWT.htm Check them out, and do a Find for "tied" to skip to the relevant part. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday July 04 13:42:54 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
| The Greyman wrote:
> On this, it would shock me if us gag-snobs weren't at > least 70%-80% of the whole who post here. I base this on > the posts themselves. Good gag scenes generate a HUGE > amount of posts and interest, while non-gag scenes tend > to fade away quickly, if mentioned at all. Perhaps a poll > would decide the issue? > Perhaps. The final call of course would be Brian's, since he and the other database maintenance crew would be the ones who would have to deal with whatever the results would be of such a change. I think the poll should be about whether or not one thinks the "gag: yes/no" thing would be useful moreso than if one is a gag-snob or not. Some non-gag-snobs might have use for such a feature, while some gag-snobs might prefer to just check the most recent entries anyway. > > >>>>>I also see the inherent usefulness of > a "Gag: > Yes/No" indicator on database > entries.<<<<<< > > Yatzee! That is exactly what I'm talking about adding. > Hmm. I think we're at a bit of a stalemate here, argument-wise. I'd like to know what Brian thinks of this idea. I personally prefer the idea of a generic search term that intentionally filters out negatives (i.e. a search for "%gag%" could filter out "not gagged", "hand gagged", etc), since all relevant info should be in the description anyway. If implemented well, that could allow gag-snobs to find their searches easily without adding the possible "clutter" of an additional field, thus satisfying multiple parties. But, I don't wish to repeat the rest of my arguments. So again, I'd like to see Brian's ruling on this. |
| Jazz411 |
| jazz411@ptd.net |
| Sunday July 04 14:32:46 2004 Quickie Update |
| In advance of a massive update on Tues/Wed - a quickie preview update.
Happy 4th to the boys 'down under' |
| Major John |
| silent_night_022003@yahoo.com |
| http://www.bindher.com/silentnight |
| Sunday July 04 15:24:50 2004 Re: Database Suggestion/Question |
| Jazz411 wrote:
> I personally prefer the idea of a generic search term > that intentionally filters out negatives (i.e. a search > for "%gag%" could filter out "not gagged", "hand gagged", > etc), since all relevant info should be in the > description anyway. I think it would be a pain to implement, with little reward. Because of the recent upgrade, you can already search like: gagged -"not gagged" -"no gag" Again, with your fuzzy, you're going to lose all the scenes that have a hand-gag in Act 1, and a real one later. |
| Brian R |
| Sunday July 04 15:33:20 2004 Doonsbury sunday cartoon |
| Read it. The punch line is at the end. |
| Hermango |
| hermango@hotmail.com |
| Sunday July 04 16:29:47 2004 Re: Torchy Gets Her Man |
| LV wrote:
> Good comment by a villain just before the scene (not > exact): "You wanted adventure. Now you'll get some. > Ropes, gags, hidden rooms..." Even more interesting, in the first scene showing her bound and gagged, if you listen carefully you can hear her whine through her gag, "Ohhhhh, they gagged us!" |
| Sunday July 04 17:10:16 2004 Scene from America's Most Wanted |
| Hey all,
Years ago, there was a scene on America's Most Wanted in which a pair of women were tied up with bedsheets by a rapist. They were bound with their hands behind their backs, with sheets around their ankles and knees (barefoot, but no gags, unfortunately). They are sitting on the floor next to the bed, and the rapist sits between them and taunts them a bit. Obviously this is a sad story, but I enjoyed the bondage scene. Does anyone remember this scene, or possibly have it capped? Thanks |
| McBain |
| Sunday July 04 19:36:38 2004 Re: Quickie Update |
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This post was moved to The Bulletin Board. Poster: jd Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday July 04 19:58:57 2004 Re: Some promising productions stills |
| CM wrote:
> Follow the link to her website, then click on > "Diary" and then scroll down to the bottom of > the page for diaries of months past, click on February > 2004 and then scroll down to the entry titled "My > Perfect Weekend" for Pamela's thoughts on the > filming of "Kill the Messenger". Great Stuff! Great stuff indeed! She's not a classic beauty, but has a down to earth attractiveness. If you click on "Multimedia", then "Production Stills and Events", you can find the folder that the stills of her. There are about a dozen nice shots of her overall. Interesting captions on a few shots as well. F'rinstance, the 2nd picture Clem loaded above is titled "Gagged!" Pic 1 is "Gagging Pamela". Oddly, she refers to her gag as masking tape, not duct tape. |
| LV |
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