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Thursday July 22 00:40:57 2004
Re: Any DID or B&G scenes?
G-Money wrote:

> I ran across some movies at Hollywood and was wondering
> if anyone seen any of them. (Target, Shelter Island,
> Rabid, Pulse, People I Know, Out of Reach, The Human
> Stain, and King of the Ants)

The "Human Stain" with Nicole Kidman is not a thriller, it's a relationship drama. Haven't seen it, but there's likely nothing there.
Thursday July 22 01:08:29 2004
Fantastic Four Film B/G Scene - 1994
There was a scene of a woman bound and cleave gagged in the Fantastic Four movie that was made in 1994. The woman was Ben "The Thing" Grimm's love interest. I bought a bootleg copy of it off ebay and the scene is fairly good. They have a load of copies on there if anyone wants to cap it.
Todd
Thursday July 22 01:59:31 2004
Re: No not that one
G-Money wrote:

> This one stars Stephen Baldwin as a sharpshooter.

Please use the reply feature to maintain context. With
no quotes and a change of subject, it's very difficult
to know what you are refering to.

The Moderator
Thursday July 22 02:35:42 2004
help identify please!
I remember seeing an old black and white movie with Bela Lagosi/Lon Chaney etc. Something like that, where a nurse is bound and gagged in this scientist laboratory type of setting. Shes wearing white, tied to a chair, medium length,dark haired gal with a thick cleave gag if I remeber. Also, she isn't wearing the little nurse hat. Does this ring any bells? I just bought a dvd set of old Lagosi movies like Devil Bat, Ape Man, The Gorilla, and Human Monster, and non had this scene. Help me out gang if you can!!! Thanks!!!!
JA
Thursday July 22 04:00:52 2004
Re: Any DID or B&G scenes?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>> The "Human Stain" with Nicole Kidman is not a
> thriller, it's a relationship drama. Haven't seen it, but
> there's likely nothing there.

I can confirm there is not a thing in the human stain.
Blockbuster dude
Thursday July 22 05:18:39 2004
Search
Anyone know the two names of the girls on Greymans homepage the two on the left side ????
Barnes
Thursday July 22 06:20:52 2004
Re: Search
>>>>Barnes wrote:
Anyone know the two names of the girls on Greymans
homepage the two on the left side ????<<<<<

Two pics- one girl: Hillary Tuck

You're the third person to inquire as to the identity of those caps since I put them up. Since that film, and it's damsels, were discussed ad nauseam in this forum for quite some time, I didn't feel the need to identify the caps.

Uh, one question. Why didn't you just ask me personally instead of going thru Brian's forum?
Vince Grey
vincegreygreyweb.org
www.greyweb.org
Thursday July 22 06:27:17 2004
Re: No not that one
G-Money wrote:

> This one stars Stephen Baldwin as a sharpshooter. On the
> back of the video box there are 2 women. One has her
> hands behind her back, while the other is holding a gun on her.

I assume you're referring to a new movie entitled "Target"?

Hadji
Thursday July 22 07:25:22 2004
Relaunch!
Okay, so I was going to wait and roll this out along with a few other goodies I've been working on, but I'm just too jazzed about how it turned out, so here it is.

Back when I launched my "International Caps and Clips" site, I had no idea that Jay L. would end up sending me so many great scenes to share with the class. As a result, I didn't think too much about the interface, and you may agree that finding what you were looking for was becoming a bit difficult. With a little help from a big spreadsheet and a bunch of Perl scripts that I whipped up in my basement, I've now done something about this.

Presenting Raffish International 2.0 -- now with thumbnails, IMDb links, and all that good stuff. Take a look, kick the tires, and let me know if anything seems broken. (Given that I'm working with about 6500 files here, I wouldn't be entirely surprised.)
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck
Thursday July 22 08:56:39 2004
Re: Relaunch!
Raffish wrote:

> Presenting Raffish International 2.0 -- now with
> thumbnails, IMDb links, and all that good stuff. Take a
> look, kick the tires, and let me know if anything seems
> broken. (Given that I'm working with about 6500 files
> here, I wouldn't be entirely surprised.)
> http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck

It looks great! It's a lot better than sites with a lot of initial pictures. Just straightforward is better!

Hermango
hermango@hotmail.com
Thursday July 22 10:23:10 2004
Re: Christina Applegate in Anchorman?
> She definitely has her hands tied behind in the trailer.

Could someone make caps of that? The scene is near the end of the 'Theatrical Trailer' at the official web site.

http://www.anchorman-themovie.com/
Thursday July 22 11:06:59 2004
Re: Relaunch!
fantastic!
henry
henry_fool@lycos.com
Thursday July 22 11:18:49 2004
Portland Mercury
Found this very interesting article whilst surfing. Thought it might be of interest to others.

http://www.portlandmercury.com/2004-04-22/feature.html
Fatbloke
Thursday July 22 11:56:06 2004
Re: Search

> Uh, one question. Why didn't you just ask me personally
> instead of going thru Brian's forum?
http://www.greyweb.org

Zorak
http://www.greyweb.org
Thursday July 22 12:48:43 2004
Re: Christina Applegate in Anchorman?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > She definitely has her hands tied behind in the
> trailer.
>
> Could someone make caps of that? The scene is near the
> end of the 'Theatrical Trailer' at the official web
> site.
>
> http://www.anchorman-themovie.com/

there is no indication, proof, or reason her hands are tied behind her. Her hands are just simply behind her back, nothing more...
Thursday July 22 13:05:14 2004
SAW site
Given that killer Monica Potter still, thought folks might want to check out the site. Still investigating it myself- it's not the easiest site to navigate. There's a lengthly trailer with one of those 1,000-shots-in-5-seconds montages. There might be something in it for those willing to go frame-by-frame. Per Fangoria, there are more stills in here somewhere.
DAK
http://www.howfuckedup.net/
Thursday July 22 13:28:28 2004
Re: Any DID or B&G scenes?





if anyone seen any of them. (Target, Shelter Island,

"Shelter Island" Save your money..nothing.I had caps up but it was a carry scene..No bondage..
Wayne
Thursday July 22 13:57:14 2004
Re: SAW site
> There's a lengthly trailer with one of those
> 1,000-shots-in-5-seconds montages. There might be
> something in it for those willing to go frame-by-frame.
> Per Fangoria, there are more stills in here somewhere.

Okay, I was willing. There are 2 quick shots in the preview: one with (I'm pretty sure) a guy wearing what looks like a strap-gag, and another with someone holding a photo of what looks like Monica Potter and a younger actress bound and cleave-gagged. It looks like a wife & daughter kidnap scenario. Anyway, it looks pretty promising.
DAK
Thursday July 22 14:32:51 2004
mainstream handsmothers
I like mainstream handsmothers (f/f, m/f) -- some of the best I've seen are "Lying In Wait," "Alone," "Trial By Jury" and "Tool Box Murders." Can anyone out there thing of other great handsmothers I can ad to my collection?
handsmotherdude
Thursday July 22 14:43:02 2004
Re: Christina Applegate in Anchorman?
> there is no indication, proof, or reason her hands are
> tied behind her. Her hands are just simply behind her
> back, nothing more...

The reason is she's about to be shot and Will Ferrell takes the bullet.
Thursday July 22 15:16:00 2004
Re: SAW site
Monica was definitely due for the full T
http://media.ign.com/thumb/851/851766/saw_03_1086371178_thumb.jpg
http://img.mysan.de/mymovies/fff04/saw04.jpg
Sherman Potter
Thursday July 22 15:21:03 2004
Re: SAW site
Looks to be a post-gag shot seeing the marks around her mouth

http://romanticmovies.about.com/library/graphics/sawpubc.jpg
Harry Potter
Thursday July 22 15:21:22 2004
Re: Relaunch!
Raffish wrote:

> Presenting Raffish International 2.0
> http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck

It's very well-designed and easy to navigate. I love it. Great job!
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Thursday July 22 15:34:26 2004
Re: SAW site
Another interesting image from the movie


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/images/reviews/saw_2.jpg
Thursday July 22 15:35:06 2004
Re: SAW site
Image in the page
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/reviews.php?id=375
Thursday July 22 17:01:13 2004
WWE News
The WWE Films division has come up with a movie called "The Marine" that will star John Cena. Cena will play a marine, who comes back home to find out his girlfriend has been kidnapped.
Thursday July 22 17:44:04 2004
Re: Christina Applegate in Anchorman?
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> The reason is she's about to be shot and Will Ferrell
> takes the bullet.

Do you know if she was also gagged?
eddie
Thursday July 22 20:12:40 2004
Re: SAW site
DAK wrote:

> Given that killer Monica Potter still, thought folks
> might want to check out the site.

Nice to see a realistic looking cleave gag in a movie, not one of those too loose or shoestring thin jobs you usually see.

C
Thursday July 22 20:17:55 2004
Re: SAW site
C wrote:

> DAK wrote:
>
> > Given that killer Monica Potter still, thought folks
>
> > might want to check out the site.
>
> Nice to see a realistic looking cleave gag in a movie,
> not one of those too loose or shoestring thin jobs you
> usually see.

Those shoestring-thin cleave gags can be quite effective if they're drawn sufficiently tightly around the mouth. The pressure they apply on the corners of the mouth force the damsel's lips together, making them very difficult to pull apart.
Gags of this type were used in the recent movie "Speck".

Hadji
Thursday July 22 20:23:30 2004
Re: Portland Mercury
Fatbloke wrote:

> Found this very interesting article whilst surfing.
> Thought it might be of interest to others.

What a cool story. I wonder how many other guys out there are sought for hire by everyday women to be "kidnapped" or "held captive" for the day or evening. They actually PAY him for this service! I also wonder if he also provides for "group rates" (i.e., multiple "DiD's").

Does anyone perusing this site provide such a service and can you share your experiences if so? Thanks!
Delbert
Thursday July 22 21:05:10 2004
KATE HUDSON
Have been behind in my reading of late, so if the note is old hat to most of you forgive me. I was reading the May 17 issue of Newsweek today when I came upon this Q&A with Kate Hudson in the back of the issue. It took place in New Orleans on the set of her first film after giving birth. This is the first question:

SO NOW YOU'RE FILMING A THRILLER-FOR A CHANGE-HOW'S THAT GOING?
Oh, it's so much fun. It's really great. I've been doing a lot, you know, being dragged around, tied and gagged-it's excellent.

Nuff said. No name for the film though, but one to keep an out for.
hallbird
Thursday July 22 21:41:37 2004
One Life To Live
Anything shown on the soaps today?
Thursday July 22 21:43:12 2004
Re: KATE HUDSON
hallbird wrote:

> SO NOW YOU'RE FILMING A THRILLER-FOR A CHANGE-HOW'S THAT
> GOING?
> Oh, it's so much fun. It's really great. I've been
> doing a lot, you know, being dragged around, tied and
> gagged-it's excellent.
>
> Nuff said. No name for the film though, but one to keep an out for.

The film you describe is entitled "Skeleton Key", and was mentioned on these Message Boards months ago. According to what I read on the IMDb about this film, it is scheduled for release sometime in 2005.
If Ms. Hudson mentioned that she'd been bound and gagged during production, then the film will most likely contain a bondage scene of some duration. The possibility exists that a sizable fraction of the footage of her bound and gagged could be excised from the final reel. This certainly did happen with Rachael Leigh Cook's bondage scenes in "The Big Empty"; the bondage scenes that were featured in the "Deleted Scenes" section of the DVD exceeded in duration the scenes actually in the movie.
Hadji
Thursday July 22 21:54:24 2004
Re: KATE HUDSON
hallbird wrote:

I came upon this Q&A
> with Kate Hudson in the back of the issue. It took place
> in New Orleans...
>
> SO NOW YOU'RE FILMING A THRILLER-FOR A CHANGE-HOW'S THAT
> GOING?
> Oh, it's so much fun. It's really great. I've been
> doing a lot, you know, being dragged around, tied and
> gagged-it's excellent.

IMDb says she's in a film called "Skeleton Key" which is in poet-production. Their synopsis is as follows:
"A New Orleans-set mystery about a caretaker who experiences fright after fright in an elderly couple's home. "


Rich McGill
Thursday July 22 22:39:36 2004
Re: Portland Mercury
Delbert wrote:

> What a cool story. I wonder how many other guys out
> there are sought for hire by everyday women to be
> "kidnapped" or "held captive" for the
> day or evening. > Does anyone perusing this site provide such a service and
> can you share your experiences if so? Thanks!

The king of this sort of thing is Brock Enright in NYC, who was profiled in Rolling Stone a few years ago. The article says he has mostly high-powered executives for clients, but a few women from all walks of life as well. His fees range from $1,000 to $2,000 and I'm thinking David Knight and several guys here could provide a MUCH BETTER service judging by their pics compared to Brock's in RS.
The Portland Mercury article is a good read; thank sjjenni for pointing it out to us. I've communicated with the author, who is, let me say, one cool chick.
On providing this service, I can't say I've ever been paid by a woman to kidnap her. That ranks right below the Red Sox winning the World Series, over the Cardinals (sorry Brian R.) on my list of fantasies.
But four times now I've had bondage models I was working with confess a fantasy of actually being kidnapped (two wanted to be held for ransom besides) and I and my wife set up a rather elaborate scenario each time that satisfied everyone.
Cecelia had to clean our large Victorian house naked to be set free, Alisha had to cook us dinner and Shera spend a night chained up in a pit in a derelict house before I let her go. Katya, a self-described wild child, didn't want her kidnap taped and it wasn't.
Edited videos of all three other kidnaps are available on my site, but a lot of personal (though non-sexual, there wasn't anything like that) stuff had to be left out.
All three are great young women who trusted me enough to let me take them away for an open-ended time, to where they didn't know, and they didn't know what would be required to get free (only that no harm would come to them and nothing inappropriate would happen).
This was a special gift these ladies gave me, and yes, there are women like that out there. Be nice to them and they'll be comfortable enough with you to try it.


Frank J
skynyd@yahoo.com
http://www.franksattic.net
Thursday July 22 22:40:41 2004
This week's update
This week: Mary Wall in 1-800-Missing "They Come As They Go," Krista Allen in Days Of Our Lives, Anne Marie Loder in First Wave "Night Falls," and Kim Poirer in Paradise Falls "The Killer."
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/0723.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Thursday July 22 23:30:01 2004
Re: SAW site
Hadji wrote:

> Those shoestring-thin cleave gags can be quite effective
> if they're drawn sufficiently tightly around the mouth.
> The pressure they apply on the corners of the mouth force
> the damsel's lips together, making them very difficult to
> pull apart.

What are your guys favorite scenes that use this type of gag? I'd very much like to see more:)

fantom the menace

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