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Monday July 05 01:48:58 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Brian R wrote:

> I think it would be a pain to implement, with little
> reward. Because of the recent upgrade, you can already
> search like:
>
> gagged -"not gagged" -"no gag"
>
> Again, with your fuzzy, you're going to lose all the
> scenes that have a hand-gag in Act 1, and a real one
later.

Exactly..its virtually impossible. I vote for getting off the subject entirely. Brian R..if you see the Moderator in your travels tell him not to sweat it.


Mark O
Monday July 05 02:57:22 2004
Re: Some promising productions stills
> Oddly, she refers to her gag as masking tape, not duct tape.

In our theatre, and just about everywhere else in the UK, we call that stuff gaffer tape if it's black like electrical cables, and duct tape if it's silver-grey like air ducts.
Other colours come under the umbrella of gaffer rather than duct.

It's not surprising to hear a lay person confuse it with masking tape, especially if it's used to mask part of her anatomy, but it does sound odd coming from a stage and film performer, who would be familiar with gaffer tape.

I think she has gorgeous eyes, btw.

Mad Dan
Monday July 05 03:05:18 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Mark O wrote:

Defining "gag-snob" as one who believes that a
> gag is a defining element of bondage, rather than a
> preference

I don't think that gag snobs hold it as a defining element of bondage, speaking as one of them. I would consider it as much a preference as say any condoment. Salad is better with dressing, but that doesn't mean that dressing fans would not consider it salad without any. I think the word 'snob' implies preference more than requirement.

I am a gag-snob because I prefer my scenes to contain gags, not because I think bondage doesn't exist without them.


Nad
Monday July 05 05:01:11 2004
One For The European Members....
..Remember when Sky was broadcast on ANALOGUE satelite?. Remeber the great foreign scenes we could get on other channels?

OK..lets be a bit more specific...Remember a Spanish channel called Cinemania?. It was a subscription movie channel. HOWEVER between films it would go on freeview for 1/2 and hour and it ussually showed short films...

..Two films I'm specifically thinking of here were called Evilo (or possibly Evelio) and the other I'm fairly certian was called La Passion.

Evilo (evilio?) was a nasty little horror offering in which three very cute damsels got grabbed by the title villian who escorted them one by one to his lair with sacks over their heads and then tied them to chairs and gagged them with white tape. He then played a sadistic game which involved phoning their homes to see if anyone would answer...If the phone was answered they would live..if not it was goodbye. Despite the fact that none of the damsels survived the bondage and struggling was AMAZING and the damsels were damn cute too. And in a KIND of happy ending the sick title character got his just deserts at the end.

La Passion was a thriller shot in B&W where a car pulls into a large empty garage. A very cute damsel was removed from the trunk of the car her hands bound behind her back and almost a FACTORY worth of plasters had been slapped over the lower half of her face. One guy starts snapping photos and the other gets a gun loaded up. Not a lot of struggling but great "mmmpppphing" from the damsel and great facial expressions too. We're never shown how the situation ends. But again a small gem.

Sadly the tape I had these (and several other great European scenes on) got chewed up by my VCR some time ago. I've been unable to replace them and they are what I would consider my "Holy Grails".

SURELY I can't have been the only one who caught these classics?.

Can someone re-unite me with these two corkers?.

Cheers
Triple X
Monday July 05 05:26:38 2004
if anyone's interested
I posted in the Trading Forum in relation to trading some Indian Bollywood scenes that I have.
keith
Monday July 05 05:54:53 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
>>>>>
>>>>>Jazz411 wrote:
The final call of course would be Brian's,<<<<<<

Of course. His page, his rules.


>>>>>Hmm. I think we're at a bit of a stalemate here,
> argument-wise.<<<<<<

We are? I'm misreading your post then. I thought you were agreeing with me.


>>>>>I personally prefer the idea of a generic search term
that intentionally filters out negatives (i.e. a search
for "%gag%" could filter out "not
gagged", "hand gagged", etc),<<<<<

Sounds ok, but wouldn't that also filter out the word "gagged"? Also, what if someone leaves out the word "gag" in any form? IE, they say "She had her mouth completely taped up".





The Greyman
Monday July 05 07:01:36 2004
Re: One For The European Members....
Triple X wrote:

> Evilo (or possibly Evelio) and the other I'm fairly
> certian was called La Passion.


Hi, the short film is called Evilio, here in Spain is part of cult series of short films by Santiago Segura.

The others are:

Evilio vuelve (Evilio Returns): more bondage but only one victim, young girl hands over head and similar ending. Cool scene too.

The third one is Perturbado but there's nothing of interest for us.

Those shorts were edited in VHS years ago, the title was Santiago Segura's History (Michael Jackson parody on the cover).
Drakced
Monday July 05 09:32:32 2004
possible scene?
could be worth checking out this for at least a hand gag scene

http://www.dvdera.com/dvds/19093/
http://www.dvdera.com/dvds/19093/.jpg
henry fool
henry_fool@lycos.com
Monday July 05 10:05:40 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
The Greyman wrote:

> We are? I'm misreading your post then. I thought you were
> agreeing with me.
>
I was having mixed thoughts, and tossed out some pro and con ideas. I'm actually mostly against the idea of change to a system that's worked well, but I'll take whatever happens.

> >>>>>I personally prefer the idea of a
> generic search term
> that intentionally filters out negatives (i.e. a search
> for "%gag%" could filter out "not
> gagged", "hand gagged",
> etc),<<<<<
>
> Sounds ok, but wouldn't that also filter out the word
> "gagged"? Also, what if someone leaves out the
> word "gag" in any form? IE, they say "She had her mouth
> completely taped up".

It could be programmed to accept certain phrases ("gagged", "gag") and avoid others ("not gagged", "hand-gagged"), but as Brian pointed out and as you just pointed out, it won't catch everything. So my idea's flawed.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Monday July 05 10:17:37 2004
Upcoming Stargate Premiere
as someone posted a while ago on the VCR alerts page, the Stargate ep this Friday (9PM, not 8PM like the alert says) is supposed to have the blond female character kidnapped and tortured. Does anyone have any idea what how this is supposed to occur?
MAV
Monday July 05 11:01:00 2004
Re: Upcoming Stargate Premiere
MAV wrote:

> as someone posted a while ago on the VCR alerts page, the
> Stargate ep this Friday (9PM, not 8PM like the alert
> says) is supposed to have the blond female character
> kidnapped and tortured. Does anyone have any idea what
> how this is supposed to occur?

Yes. If you follow the show you know about the "Replicators", bug-like mechanical robots that expand & reproduce by absorbing alien technology (not to mention *all* the planets' natural resources). Nasty things... sort a cross between the Borg and army ants. Anyhoo, in the Season Six episode "Unnatural Selection", SG-1 was sent on a mission by the Asgard (an advanced alien race) to plant a device on the Replicators (who had all been lured to one planet). The device would create a field which would distort time, making it pass orders of magnitude more slowly than in the rest of the universe. The hope was with the Replicators frozen in time, the Asgard would have time (thousands of years) to develop technology advanced enough to defeat them. ANYanyhoo, SG-1 finds the Replicators are developing very human-like android forms. They (SG-1) get captured, & to make a long story short [too late!] Sam (Amanda Tapping) seduces & betrays one of the Replicator-Humans, tricking him into betraying the others.

Well... in the second hour of this Friday's Season Eight opener... THEY'RE BACK! ...& hell hath no fury like a Replicator-Human scorned! Sam is captured (& if the spoiler info at gateworld.com is correct) she's ENCASED in Replicator modules. Imagine someone backed against a wall & WALLED-UP with millions of steel legos, leaving minimal space between their body & the tiny interlocking blocks, until only their face is left exposed. THAT'S what happens to Sam! Further details of the torture are sketchy. Some of it will be mental (dreams, illusions, etc.) We'll see.

There's a STARGATE preview show on SciFi tonight, & we *may* get a preview. :-)

By the way, VAN'S FICTION HAS BEEN UPDATED! The final chapter of "Boxing Kelly" & the Epilogue are posted. Enjoy!
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/vans-fiction-banner-500.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Monday July 05 11:22:22 2004
Re: possible scene?
henry fool wrote:

> could be worth checking out this for at least a hand gag
> scene
>
> http://www.dvdera.com/dvds/19093/

-------
Let's do our homework, shall we? :-)

Record number: 6100

Title: Lying In Wait (2000)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Virginia Madsen

Description: Madsen is grabbed by her young lover as she pulls up to her house. He handgags her and drags her, eventually falling with her to the ground. She struggles as he tries to reason with her. His hand covers her face so much that, sadly, she suffocates. Much mmphphing and kicking, with some good-if-poorly-lit closeups. Happens near the 70' mark, lasts over a minute. A picture of the scene dons the video box.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday July 05 12:01:44 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Nad wrote:

> I don't think that gag snobs hold it as a defining
> element of bondage, speaking as one of them. I would
> consider it as much a preference as say any condoment.
> Salad is better with dressing, but that doesn't mean that
> dressing fans would not consider it salad without any. I
> think the word 'snob' implies preference more than
> requirement.

Nad..you're probably right. If that's the case, then I would also be in the "gag-snob" category. I imagine that if we use "preference" in the definition, the percentage of gag-snobs is probably closer to 99%.



Mark O
Monday July 05 12:24:46 2004
NBC: NEXT ACTION STAR
Scene's for Wednesday's "Next Action Star" on NBC shows blonde female chair tied +blindfolded trying to escape. This is a screen test part of the competition so all the female contestants will have to do that scene.
HANNIBAL
Monday July 05 12:44:14 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question


Sounds ok, but wouldn't that also filter out the word
"gagged"? Also, what if someone leaves out the
word "gag" in any form? IE, they say "She had her mouth completely taped up".

How about ALL new database entries go onto a 'Pending Further Input' page for a month or so - anyone who's actually viewed the scene could add their two cent's worth.
After all of the input is in, one of the editors could just use the info and write up a short speel that took everything into account. I suppose you could also do the same with previous database entries on a rotating basis.






Major John
Monday July 05 12:46:20 2004
Re: One For The European Members....
Thanks for the heads up Drakced. Now Can I ask a favour?.

Do you have ANY idea where would I come accross a copy of this brilliant VHS?.

I saw Evilio 2 it wasn't bad at all but it never QUITE lived up to the brilliance of the first (and there were no gags) however if I can grab a hold of it along with it's classic predacessor I won't be complaining 8-).

BTW people following this thread who have never actually seen the films but now plan to track them down (and believe me it IS worth it for some excellent bondage) be WARNED. These films are extremely violent, nasty and downright gruesome. So if you don't have a strong stomach or ar easily offended please do yourself a favour and avoid them.
Triple X
Monday July 05 13:04:16 2004
Wonder Woman casting
In this week's Entertainment Weekly magazine (Michael Moore on cover) on page 69 in the DVD section, they have a few questions with Linda Carter about the release of the first year of Wonder Woman on DVD. One of the questions is: Who should star in the long-rumored Wonder Woman movie? Linda Carter answers: I'm pulling for an unknown who approaches the character as a human-being. Some actors play superheroes like caricatures. I believed I was Wonder Woman. We love fantasy characters because we believe.
Viking
Monday July 05 14:06:34 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Major John wrote:

"How about ALL new database entries go onto a 'Pending Further Input' page for a month or so - anyone who's actually viewed the scene could add their two cent's worth.
After all of the input is in, one of the editors could just use the info"
__________________________________________________________

Ay Buddy
We sort of use a similar system with the Database Corrections page.
Jay L
Monday July 05 14:57:54 2004
DOOL
What happened today?
Monday July 05 15:46:29 2004
Re: DOOL
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> What happened today?

Hope was handcuffed, hands behind. Preview for Tuesday showed her being handgagged. Nice dialogue in this one. After the bad guy took command, he had Hope uncuff his hands. He then says, "OK, now turn around." Hope says with a nice damsel look "Why." He says, "Just do it" and he cuffs her. She then adds "You're just getting yourself in deeper." A gag would have worked wonders right there. Maybe it'll come later in the week.

Nothing on ATWT.
Monday July 05 16:49:36 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Mark O wrote:

> I vote for getting off the subject entirely.

The problem is it's been taken as 'what changes would you make to the database' rather than 'does the database need any major changes' to which the answer is........no.

But yeah, it is about as interesting as a discussion on movie player software.


Monday July 05 18:31:12 2004
The Daniel Twins
Besides Raffish's page(because it's edited too much)are there any other sites on the web or perhaps a yahoo group that might feature video files of the two awesome bondage scenes involving Brittany and Cynchia Daniel from the Sweet Vally High episodes Kidnapped parts 2 and 3? Kids show or not it ranks up there as one of my favorites both in terms of the struggling and mmmphing.To see Cynthia wake up after being chloroformed ony to discover that she is now bound and tape gagged and then proceeding to roll herself off the coutch while moaning and trying to free her hands is fantastic! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rick
Monday July 05 19:00:09 2004
Re: One Life to Live
G-MaN wrote:

> Friday I caught a glimpse of someone
> picking up the lovely Adriana and sprinting her away
> while everyone was looking the other direction. (Except a
> camcorder that I'm going to bet was forgotfully left
> on.)

She wasn't shown today, but it appears she has been grabbed by someone employeed by the Santi crime family and is being taken to Puerto Rico to ensure that Antonio is really interested and joining their club and not just working undercover for the cops. (Which he is.)

On another note, two other fine women (Jessica & Natalie) and Dorian are flying down to PR to find a treasure that also belongs to the Santi Family.

Not sure if anything will come of this, but god I hope so.
G-MaN
Monday July 05 19:44:05 2004
Re: DOOL
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > What happened today?
>
> Hope was handcuffed, hands behind. Preview for Tuesday
> showed her being handgagged. Nice dialogue in this one.
> After the bad guy took command, he had Hope uncuff his
> hands. He then says, "OK, now turn around."
> Hope says with a nice damsel look "Why." He
> says, "Just do it" and he cuffs her. She then
> adds "You're just getting yourself in deeper."
> A gag would have worked wonders right there. Maybe it'll
> come later in the week.

Day-ahead spoilers for tomorrow say that Hope will be hand-gagged by Patrick for a couple of scenes. Eventually she'll try to escape and he'll knock her out. He'll handcuff her to the steering wheel of her car and leave her there. Hope will come to and use a spare key to get out of the handcuffs and then take off after him. No mention of a gag, and it really doesn't sound like she'll get one tomorrow.
chubby
Monday July 05 20:00:32 2004
it's bondage week on DOOL!
Dustin's DOOL page says...

John sets a trap for Crystal in order to get her to confess, he ties her up in the barn! Under pressure, Crystal apparently cracks! Will she rat out Nicole?

Meanwhile, Nicole comes up with a plan to make it look like Crystal was the one in charge, and she orders Jan to tie her up! Later, Brady almost discovers Jan in the mansion, but what he does discover is Nicole all tied up!
Monday July 05 23:43:41 2004
Re: The Daniel Twins
Rick wrote:

> Besides Raffish's page(because it's edited too much)are
> there any other sites on the web or perhaps a yahoo group
> that might feature video files of the two awesome bondage
> scenes involving Brittany and Cynchia Daniel from the
> Sweet Vally High episodes Kidnapped parts 2 and 3?

Edited too much? Give me a break!
I appreciate all that Raffish puts out. The guy has the most vidcaps compared to any other vidcap site and charges a very miniscule amount for seeing any of the extra vidcaps he has in stock. Regardless, he revolves these with his previews.
You complain that they're edited too much? Be thankful for what you have.
No wonder other sites have folded.
Cohen

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