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Wednesday May 11 00:16:07 2005
Description of a past scene
This just occured to me. A good few years back, maybe in 96 or 97, I was reading some gossip in a Star tabloid. It mentioned an actress who had a scene in an upcoming movie, meaning that movie would've been released years ago. I can't remember a single name, for the actress or the movie, but anyway... The word was that she had a scene where she was bound and gagged while naked or almost naked on a psychiatrist's couch. Supposedly, she kept giggling, thus delaying the filming process. It was said that her male costar, once again I can't remember any names, was growing really frustrated with her.

Does such a scene exist? I never recall any movie like that. I figured since it came from a tabloid, it might just be BS, like a lot of the stuff they 'report' but it may also be based in some reality. Does the description ring a bell for anyone? I used the word 'psychiatrist' to search the database and came up with nothing.
GagAllWomen
Wednesday May 11 01:09:20 2005
Re: Fear Factor
> > The L-Word - 2x11 - Laurel Holloman - BPR-11348
> .avi
> That was not Laurel Holloman strapped to the Xframe in
> 'The L Word". Her character is 9 months pregnant
> and the girl getting worked had a flat, firm belly.

I pulled the name from the db. I suppose it could be someone else. Don't exactly follow the show, lol.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Wednesday May 11 01:43:54 2005
Re: Attn: Westcoasters- One Favour ?
David Knight wrote:

> Jay, indeed there are a closeup or two of at least one
> gal being gagged with gray ducttape
> CSI: Miami for next Monday

Thanks,
KIRO for you
that and KMOV and both are US channel "CBS"

Forgot to add "CBS" to VCR alert,
if someone feels necessary to post it?
Jay L
Wednesday May 11 02:08:23 2005
Re: Description of a past scene
Vampires? face down naked on the bed
/shrug
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Wednesday May 11 02:39:47 2005
Re: Fear Factor

Monday, May 23rd final episode. NY vs LA involving 2
girls.

What's the time and ch.?
Jake
Wednesday May 11 03:29:00 2005
Oh Baby
<<<Title: Oh, Baby (2001) aka Bratty Babies
Medium: TV Movie
Actress: Lisa Calder, Lisa Rinna

Description: In this family comedy, 2 moronic villains invade a home (plot not unlike the "Home Alone" series).

They tie up the babysitter Gwen (Calder) and her boyfriend in the basement. They sit back to back on chairs, hands tied behind their backs- ropes visible-and with lots of white rope wrapped around their upper bodies. Their feet are free.>>>

I would love to see this movie, anyone know if it still plays? Any vidcaps of it anywhere? Do any video stores carry this film?
FFF
Wednesday May 11 05:46:20 2005
scene / actress ID?
Going through caps and being anal about indexing them.
I'm pretty sure that is rose mcgowan, but am not 100% on it.
Cap is from Charmed 6x18, BPR-10252.
If someone could confirm, that would rock.
Quality is kind of shitty, yeah, I know.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/asbestosfilter/index.html
Wednesday May 11 07:53:51 2005
Re: scene / actress ID?
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> Going through caps and being anal about indexing them.
> I'm pretty sure that is rose mcgowan, but am not 100% on
> it.

Yeppers that the lovely Rosy!

Its from that episode with the spider web bad guy(or bad girl I don't really recall much about the eppy but it shot those webs and no one got a good scene)
Snowcat
Wednesday May 11 13:13:25 2005
Re: Fear Factor
Jake wrote: What's the time and ch.?

NBC. 8 PM EDT I believe. Check your local listings. I recommend http://www.zap2it.com for more information.

Wednesday May 11 13:42:20 2005
mandy moore?
I just came across a cap of mandy moore tied to a chair with what appears to be popcorn strings....anyone know where this came from?
el tinko
Wednesday May 11 13:47:25 2005
Re: mandy moore?
el tinko wrote:
mandy moore tied to a chair ....anyone know where this came from?

Osbournes Christmas Special - see the Database.

anon22
Wednesday May 11 14:59:23 2005
Re: Oh Baby
FFF wrote:

> <<<Title: Oh, Baby (2001) aka Bratty Babies
> Medium: TV Movie
> Actress: Lisa Calder, Lisa Rinna

> They tie up the babysitter Gwen (Calder) and her
> boyfriend in the basement. They sit back to back on
> chairs, hands tied behind their backs- ropes visible-and
> with lots of white rope wrapped around their upper
> bodies. Their feet are free.>>>
>>> I would love to see this movie, anyone know if it still
> plays? Any vidcaps of it anywhere? Do any video stores carry this film?>>>

Please Major John, please.... do you have this scene? You have come through like no other, also Major John, could you post that Rebecca Staab scene from P.S.I. Luv U?
Wednesday May 11 15:11:14 2005
Re: Fear Factor
AsbestosFilter wrote:
> > That was not Laurel Holloman strapped to the Xframe
> in
> > 'The L Word". Her character is 9 months
> pregnant
> > and the girl getting worked had a flat, firm belly.
>
>
> I pulled the name from the db. I suppose it could be
> someone else. Don't exactly follow the show, lol.


OK, here's a question for anyone here who *does* watch the show:

WTF is going on?

Seriously, who is this character, and is bondage sex a part of her characterization on the show? Was this a fantasy or dream sequence? Is there even a remote chance that they're suggesting that more-or-less "normal" folks can be into kinky sex?

It would present quite a contrast to "The Shield". While in some ways, it's the best season of that show yet, I'm really disappointed in what they've done with Lt Aceveda: they're using his interest in rough sex to symbolize his descent into a genuinely unpleasant character, once more making that all-too-easy connection: "kink = bad".


Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.homestead.com
Wednesday May 11 15:12:03 2005
My message above
I hadn't noticed it still carried the heading "Fear Factor". I am, of course, asking about "The L Word".
Jeb
Wednesday May 11 15:20:56 2005
Re: new releases
H wrote:

> Last Horror Show does have some scenes

What is the bondage like? I couldn't find it in the DB.
Anubis
http://www.anuvids.com
Wednesday May 11 17:03:30 2005
Re: new releases
Anubis wrote:

> H wrote:
>
> > Last Horror Show does have some scenes
>
> What is the bondage like? I couldn't find it in the DB.

The reason I didn't put it in the database is I was only partially watching it with some friends while playing euchre. I seem to recall a woman tied to a chair with a thin cleave gagged, and it doesn't end very well for her. At some point, I intend on renting it, maybe sooner before later.
H
h_tribe@yahoo.com
http://www.diddvd.com
Wednesday May 11 17:25:37 2005
Re: Requests For the Major
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Please Major John, please

Suggest you may want to email him direct for requests (silent_night_022003@yahoo.com)

The old guy did one heck of a hike to burn calories ahead of time before hitting the pub,
and likely be in bed early tonight
Jay L
Wednesday May 11 17:36:07 2005
Anita Barone in The Takeover
Hi. I'm curious whether anyone has seen this scene--I haven't and I've never seen caps. Curious because I saw the lovely Ms. Barone in another film the other day and hoped she might have a scene somewhere. Anyone seen it and know whether it's worth picking up a cheap used copy? (And what type/color of tape is used for the gag?)

Thanks for any help you can give...

Title: The Takeover (1995)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Anita Barone

Description: Anita is captured by her brother's pursuers. They grab her as she comes out of her house and tape gag her. She is later seen in a chair, tied and still tape gagged. A few nice cloe-ups.
Hibiscus
Wednesday May 11 17:51:34 2005
Re: Description of a past scene
GagAllWomen wrote:

> This just occured to me. A good few years back, maybe in
> 96 or 97, I was reading some gossip in a Star tabloid.
> It mentioned an actress who had a scene in an upcoming
> movie, meaning that movie would've been released years
> ago. I can't remember a single name, for the actress or
> the movie, but anyway... The word was that she had a
> scene where she was bound and gagged while naked or
> almost naked on a psychiatrist's couch. Supposedly, she
> kept giggling, thus delaying the filming process.

I Haven't seen it myself but I believe the scene you're thinking of was Naomi Campbell in 'Invasion of Privacy' I read the same news report though I seem to recall it was the director who got fed up with her giggling eventually deciding to dub more appropriate noises over the top.

In the film she's definately tied up on a psychiatrists couch. I assume it's in the database but i wouldn't swear to it because i've never actually looked for it.
Moxx of Balhoom
mike@timelord.wanadoo.co.uk
Wednesday May 11 17:53:06 2005
Re: Requests For the Major
Jay L wrote:
The old guy did one heck of a hike to burn calories ahead
of time before hitting the pub,
and likely be in bed early tonight

Bullshit - I'm out tonite chasin' Korean chicks ....

Major John
Wednesday May 11 18:27:28 2005
Re: A rarity up for grabs...


Please send the Xenia Seeburg mpeg to the address augustod@earthlink.net. P.S. Ich spreche ein bischen Deutsche.
Augusto
augustod@earthlink.net
Wednesday May 11 18:59:39 2005
Re: Requests For the Major
Major John wrote:

> Bullshit - I'm out tonite chasin' Korean chicks ....

Impressive
Hopefully they'll ID that one we've dubbed "Suprise" for the boys here
Jay L
Wednesday May 11 19:17:56 2005
Re: Anita Barone in The Takeover
Hibiscus wrote:

> Hi. I'm curious whether anyone has seen this scene--I
> haven't and I've never seen caps.

I have caps and a clip, will try and post them on Vids and Dids with next week's update. She's gagged with a strip of black tape, very nice scene.
Anubis
http://www.anuvids.com/
Wednesday May 11 19:33:33 2005
Re: Looking for tied up suspension
C wrote:

> I'm sure he has some feelings under that thick hide of his.

Then he should give the same consideration to others. The internet is a medium. That is an objective fact. It is in 70+% of U.S. homes. That is an objective fact. How is that not "mainstream media"? --Oh, I see, because his majesty SAYS it's not.

John
Wednesday May 11 19:41:11 2005
Re: Looking for tied up suspension
John wrote:

> C wrote:
>
> > I'm sure he has some feelings under that thick hide
> of his.
>
> Then he should give the same consideration to others.
> The internet is a medium. That is an objective fact. It
> is in 70+% of U.S. homes. That is an objective fact.
> How is that not "mainstream media"? --Oh, I
> see, because his majesty SAYS it's not.


That's great, John. Sarcasm ~always~ works to change the moderator's mind of policy matters. Seriously, why don't you guys start your own site and quit hammering this guy who provides such a great site for us?
Wednesday May 11 20:00:48 2005
Re: Boogeyman II
>> How is that not "mainstream media"? --Oh,
> I
> > see, because his majesty SAYS it's not.

Because....it's....HIS...site. What don't you understand about that??

Anyway, to the poster who asked about Boogeyman II...I'm pretty sure that the flashback scene in Boogeyman II is the entire, complete scene from the original Boogeyman. The scene isn't all that long anyway, and it's pretty much focused on the bondage parts throughout its entire length (no cutaways to cops searching, etc.) so it wasn't too surprising the whole thing was used as a flashback in Part II.
Now, I'm not 100% certain...someone else might want to clarify more. Hope this helps.
Actually, I didn't know EITHER was out on DVD..I think I'll go rent Part II as well, as I need an upgrade!



JP
japfeif@aol.com
Wednesday May 11 20:16:00 2005
Re: Looking for tied up suspension
John wrote:

> Then he should give the same consideration to others.

Seems I got here just in time for the daily Old Hitler bashing from the Negativity Always Group.

There are plenty of other sites out there that have forums for exactly what you are looking for, why get so upset because ONE other site has a different niche?

What you guys really should realize is that eventually all this negative attitude makes running a free website more of a hassle than a hobby, and leads to serious thoughts about the point of doing it at all.
Anubis
Wednesday May 11 21:03:40 2005
Re: Looking for tied up suspension
John wrote:

> C wrote:
>
> > I'm sure he has some feelings under that thick hide
> of his.
>
> Then he should give the same consideration to others.

Still confused I see. It's not disrespectful to tell
someone "no". You can whine all you want, but "The Mod"
ain't changing his mind.


Brian R
Wednesday May 11 21:09:34 2005
Re: Looking for tied up suspension
Anubis wrote:

> What you guys really should realize is that eventually
> all this negative attitude makes running a free website
> more of a hassle than a hobby, and leads to serious
> thoughts about the point of doing it at all.

That's led to the downfall of sites run by nicer guys
than me. Good thing I'm not a nice guy!

I like our focus, "our thing" as it's been called. The
front page tries to explain why, and I think it's not
to hard to see why stuff found on the internet doesn't
qualify as "mainstream" as I've defined it.

John asked, which was fine, I said no. Or rather The Mod
did, but you know, FAQ 2.4 and all that. Unfortunately,
he's like the little kid who's told that he can't have
Sugar Pops, he thinks if he cries and sulks and whines
it's going to make a difference. It won't.

Brian R
Wednesday May 11 21:30:10 2005
Fear factor / audio codecs
OK, so I got a copy of the fear factor show from someone and am having this damn problem with vbr / audio skew / again.

Does anyone have the Radium ACM codec available?
Virtualdub needs an ACM codec to decode audio, so the directshow codec I have installed wont work.

My workaround has been to just record the audio on another computer via line in and then import it, but that is a pain in the ass (and takes an hour per episode.)
Does anyone know of any virtualdub-like programs that can utilize directshow codecs to decode audio or can deal with VBR audio natively?

I'll have a cap of the episode later tonight, doing my workaround right now...
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Wednesday May 11 21:47:13 2005
Smallville?
I thought it was going to be a repeat and next's weeks "SEASON FINALE" was the only new episode left.

I got home and read the description and found that tonight was new and some photographer was kidnapping people for a virtual high school.
I bet nothing happened!

Any one care to confirm
Snowcat
Wednesday May 11 22:17:56 2005
Re: Smallville?
Snowcat wrote:

> I thought it was going to be a repeat and next's weeks
> "SEASON FINALE" was the only new episode left.
>
>
> I got home and read the description and found that
> tonight was new and some photographer was kidnapping
> people for a virtual high school.
> I bet nothing happened!
>
> Any one care to confirm

Lana, Chloe and a guest star babe were "kidnapped" by being turned into wax figures after signing some guy's magical yearbook. No female bondage involved. Remember, next weeks season finale is 90 minutes and includes 10 minutes of previews of "Batman Begins".
CM
Wednesday May 11 22:32:27 2005
Re: Smallville?
> > I bet nothing happened!
> >
> > Any one care to confirm
>
> Lana, Chloe and a guest star babe were
> "kidnapped" by being turned into wax figures
> after signing some guy's magical yearbook. No female
> bondage involved.

A nice way of saying: if you taped it don't watch it, because it's actually much worse than a nothing burger; dayak (don't ask, you already know).

Wednesday May 11 22:33:38 2005
Re: Smallville?
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> A nice way of saying: if you taped it don't watch it,

As was the case with enterprise this week (4x20). T'pal gets captured, but no bondage there either.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Wednesday May 11 22:44:56 2005
Re: Fear factor / audio codecs
AsbestosFilter wrote:
> I'll have a cap of the episode later tonight, doing my
> workaround right now...

Done. Email me, blah, blah, you know the drill.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps
Wednesday May 11 23:12:08 2005
Cheap vs. Bullshit Cleavings
I was just browsing thru some clips in my library today, making some observations .. as most DiD fans probably do .. I think being able to "over-analyze" into the bondage helps with the attraction to it .. Anyways, the primary finding I was interested in was the difference between what I call a "bullshit gag" versus a "functional gag". In particular, I'm talking about cleaves. Here are a few examples to illustrate what I mean, and anyone whose seen this scenes knows exactly what I'm talking about:

FUNCTIONAL:

- Bound with Gina Gershon and Jennifer Tilly. Those are REAL gags.
- Kelly Ripa's earliest scene on AMC.
- That girl in Zig Zag.
- Charisma Carpenter in Angel's "Parting Gifts"
- Jessica Alba in Flipper's "Past Tense"
- Ana Lucia Dominguez, her scene in Te Voy.

BULLSHIT:

- Natalia Cigliuti in Simon Sez, that flimsy yellow crap.
- Yvonne Craig in Batman's "Catwoman's Dressed to Kill"
- Linda Carter and Loni Anderson, their duo scene in Partner's in Crime.
- Susan Saint James in McMillian and Wife's "Man without a Face"

Now, I realize some scenes with bullshit gags are still good, because of gag talk fans, or simply because the damsel has it goin' on. Regardless, what the hell is the point of these gags? Honestly, a thin piece of weak cloth isn't going to do anything to prevent a damsel from shouting her lungs out.

Just a blog. Tell me what you guys think ..
X
Wednesday May 11 23:47:19 2005
Re: Cheap vs. Bullshit Cleavings
X wrote:

> Regardless, what the hell is the
> point of these gags? Honestly, a thin piece of weak cloth
> isn't going to do anything to prevent a damsel from shouting her lungs out.

>Just a blog. Tell me what you guys think ..

I think to some extent it's that the viewer has always been expected to undergo "suspension of disbelief"-- see the Wikipedia article of the same title. We know the gag's a fake just as the guns don't have real bullets and the blood is stage blood and the characters are really actors.

Perhaps more than this is just that most people simply don't know that a hankie pulled between the teeth won't keep anyone quiet or prevent them from talking, nor would they care if you told them. I really wish more cloth gags were shown to have another wad of cloth stuffed into the damsel's mouth to make them at least seem more effective but there's a workplace safety issue here so I guess I can live without it.
Graf Knebel

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