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| Wednesday September 13 00:05:17 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| Mad Dan wrote:
> I did a bit of research on Musidora. She was one of the > first actresses, if not the first, to adopt the heavy > make-up that would become typical of movie vamps; no > doubt the term was inspired by this serial. Nice, nice! pt2 does conform to the listed db entry. Would you be writing a new entry for the first scene? Interesting info, too. Most of us cinema buffs associate Theda Bara with the "vamp" look, I think, but this is 1915, really early, and Musidora's look is clearly Vampish! Things got really weird when the guys started wearing the vampy makeup on screen (viz. Rudolf Valentino in "The Sheik"). Heavy eye-makeup was quite common in the early cinema, since control of lighting was not sophisticated, filmstock not too sensitive, and camera relatively rudimentary. I wonder who it was, back in those days, who decided that heavy eyeblack was a solution, and whether anyone in the studios worried about whether it made their actresses less--or more--attractive. I doubt they actually polled an audience. Not in those days. The look appears to have died out by the early thirties, although there are some holdovers. Maybe the flapper look of the mid-twenties killed it off. But also the technology revolution of the talkies brought more sophistication to all areas of cinema, including makeup. The interesting link is to what is "realistic" on screen. For example, gags in early cinema were almost entirely OTM, never any inside packing, and rarely tight, too. The OTM detective gag seems to have persisted through the '30s and into the '40s, when we start seeing evidence of cleave gags. Tape gags are rare, at least until the '60s. But of course it's all a conceit. All the damsels pretended to be utterly silenced by their gags, of whatever type, while in reality that's impossible to achieve. You can muffle, but you can't silence. Most recent examples of gagged girls in the cinema appear to have been instructed by directors that it's okay to mmmph and squeal and mumble and even scream into their gags--at least once in awhile. |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday September 13 01:08:15 2006 Re: Emma Caulfield movie |
| I've seen the movie with Elisha Cuthbert you're talking about. Sorry, no bondage in this one.
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| ACC |
| accasino@hotmail.com |
| Wednesday September 13 04:49:17 2006 re: Amanda Bynes |
| Hey gang, if this annoying bitch was tied up could we say that we have binded Ms. Bynes? Get it? Bind Ms. Bynes? |
| David Gagerman |
| Wednesday September 13 04:50:50 2006 RE" BYNES |
| Hope Amy Smart gets the treatrment in "SMITH", so I can say "Your not looking too smart Ms. Smart" |
| RODNEY BONDAGFIELD |
| Wednesday September 13 06:05:43 2006 Law and Order CI |
| Here is the first ten minutes of the season premier.
http://www.nbc.com/NBC_First_Look/shows/law_ci/#main It shows to different damsels bound and gagged, unfortunately neither one is very good (The first is only alive for about 5 seconds when gagged and the other is already dead when shown) and niether one is Kathryn Erbe. Her scene is probably later in the episode, and it's hopefully much better than these two. |
| Missedids |
| missedids@yahoo.com |
| http://geocities.com/missedids |
| Wednesday September 13 06:15:04 2006 Re: Silent movie |
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> The interesting link is to what is "realistic" > on screen. For example, gags in early cinema were almost > entirely OTM, never any inside packing, and rarely tight, > too. The OTM detective gag seems to have persisted > through the '30s and into the '40s, when we start seeing > evidence of cleave gags. Tape gags are rare, at least > until the '60s. But of course it's all a conceit. All the > damsels pretended to be utterly silenced by their gags, > of whatever type, while in reality that's impossible to > achieve. You can muffle, but you can't silence. Most > recent examples of gagged girls in the cinema appear to > have been instructed by directors that it's okay to mmmph and squeal and mumble and even scream into their gags--at least once in awhile. What about the I LOVE LUCY episode (Amateur Hour) where Lucy is gagged with an apple? In reality she could have just spit the darn thing out! But beside that she made about as much noise with the thing in her mouth as she did before her captors gagged her with it! Then there's the ALL ABOUT EVA episode of GI where Ginger doesn't even pretend that her OTM gag is effective. She talks perfectly fine with it on! My question is why would the writer have Eva gag Ginger and then give Ginger dialog? Oh, the writer is Joanna Lee who appeared in Plan 9 from Outer Space. That might explain it. |
| Bill |
| Wednesday September 13 06:18:11 2006 Re: Lifetime/Lifetime Movie Network made-for-TV movies |
| > > It's getting hard trying to keep the various Lifetime/Lifetime Movie Network movies straight. Notice I used the word "various", not "different"....
> > > > Wouldn't even bother trying to keep them straight ---- Don't get me wrong, I *am* greatful for Lifetime/LMN for: 1) Providing employment for some of our favorite (and still *stunning*) 30-something & 40-something TV actresses, who've run into a ridiculously tough job market with other channels programming reality or game shows, or targeting the Under-30 demographic audience. 2) The # of B&g scenes. On the other hand, I'm already missing the USA network's made-for-TV movies. Even though even minor DiD scenes were sparse -- e.g., "The China Lake Murders" (1990); "The Operation" (1990); "Sweet Poison" (1991) -- the sexes weren't stereotyped and the plot twists were often unpredictable. "Blackmail" recently re-aired, and I doubt few would have predicted its outcome (other than baddie Mac Davis getting killed). Even when USA network's made-for-TV movies later changed format from "Quality" to "Over-the-top" (e.g., "My Stepson, My Lover"), the movies themselves were less painful to sit thru than a number of the Lifetime/LMN efforts. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Wednesday September 13 08:04:51 2006 german ID |
| Anyone know where this is from?
Girl tied to chair in an underground tunnel. |
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| Wednesday September 13 08:17:07 2006 Biel |
| Hi I was just wondering what the url was to Jenny's sit that was mentioned in an earlier post? Someone said it was a mirror image to the bielsite.
Thanks in advance 7 |
| 7 |
| Wednesday September 13 08:39:22 2006 Re: YouTube |
| D Van Dyke wrote:
> > Just can't beat that onscreen gagging. > > How about a blonde Playmate being B&G by Rose Marie? Can you check that link again? |
| JH |
| Wednesday September 13 09:31:04 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| Bill wrote:
> What about the I LOVE LUCY episode (Amateur Hour) where > Lucy is gagged with an apple? ... > Then there's the ALL ABOUT EVA episode of GI where Ginger doesn't even pretend that her OTM gag is effective. She talks perfectly fine with it on! Yes, comedy shows and sitcoms are different than drama, and I should have been clearer that I was only discussing dramatics shows and movies. With comedy all bets are off, since the writers and directors are looking to find ways to violate our expectations of what reality is. If they were charged with being realistic, comedy shows would be incredibly different (and not necessarily worse) and much nore highbrow. Compare Lucy gagged with an apple and Cameron Diaz gagged with a lime! The Lucy shows plays it for laughs, exactly because it doesn't keep Lucy from doing what she always does--talk too much. Low common denominator humor, that (but still funny). But when the lime comes out of Cameron's mouth, it's funny in a grotesque kind of way. We say to ourselves "Oh, jeez, that's not nice" and then "but it sure was practical and creative" and then "and it worked, too." This kind of humorous touch makes the viewer think, and it also is true to the persona that Cameron Diaz gives us in all her films: comedic enough, but not slapstick. A "thinking man's" comedienne. Here's a challenge for this forum: How many examples of weird gags can we come up with from TV/cinema/MTV etc? Standard gags don't count (tape, cloth, leather, rubber balls). We've got a start with apples and limes. Anyone? |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday September 13 11:03:28 2006 BIEL [Bondage In Everyday Life] |
| Its still at the same place its been for the past six months.
Hasn't been updated recently, but its still where it has been since Clemm got fed up with the Jenny 'mirror site' BS and moved it. Besides the link, it can also be reached through "Reds-Realm.net" links section And just to keep this on topic, 'The Trussed Thespians' pics are still there :-) |
| Jacot |
| http://www.thebielsite.com/ |
| Wednesday September 13 11:34:05 2006 Re: Emma Caulfield movie |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Tonight on Lifetime Movie Network at 8 p.m. Looks like a > "Deadly Vision" type of movie. Hopefully, a > similar B&G scene to finish. > Not much in the movie, except Emma looking pretty good in most of it. In the final minutes, she's tied up hands in front onscreen with yellow rope but it only lasts a few seconds and the bad guy doesn't finish before someone enters and a melee ensues. When she falls to the ground, the ropes are gone. |
| Wednesday September 13 11:38:03 2006 Re: Days |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Only saw the final 15 minutes and Jennifer was not shown. > Nothing in Wednesday's preview either. Jen will be tied to a post today along with the putz. I got this from a very reliable spoiler page. |
| Another Dave |
| Wednesday September 13 11:54:22 2006 Re: YouTube |
| > How about a blonde Playmate being B&G by Rose
> Marie? > Can you check that link again? Looks like YouTube scratched another one. |
| Wednesday September 13 12:06:09 2006 Gabrielle Tuite scene on The Price is Right (West Coast) |
| This morning in the 1st Showcase Showdown, Gabrielle Tuite was shown chained to a chair during a Dos & Don'ts of Dieting skit.
I previous thought it was a How To Not Overbid. I was wrong. |
| Jason |
| Wednesday September 13 12:48:28 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> How many examples of > weird gags can we come up with from TV/cinema/MTV etc? > Standard gags don't count (tape, cloth, leather, rubber > balls). We've got a start with apples and limes. How about: -Finders, Keepers- Beverly D'Angelo gagged with a pencil, then later with a toupee(!) -Evil Never Dies- I never got the actress's name (any help here, anyone?) but in this TV-movie she was gagged with a half potato stuffed into her mouth (then killed) -Simon Sez- Emma Sjoberg gagged with potato a potato held in place with a cloth strip -Jawbreaker- Charlotte Lopez gagged (& choked to death, unfortunately) with a HUGE candy jawbreaker -Natural Born Killers- Ashley Judd had a very short scene of her gagged with what appeared to be a stuffed animal -Dude, Where's my Car?- Jennifer Garner & Marla Sokoloff are cleave gagged with strips of bubble wrap |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Wednesday September 13 14:09:36 2006 Re: Days |
| Another Dave wrote:
> Jen will be tied to a post today along with the putz. I > got this from a very reliable spoiler page. Nothing in Wednesday's episode in U.S. Preview for Thursday showed Jen tied to the pole. She and Jack were each on different sides. |
| Wednesday September 13 16:22:00 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| JP wrote:
> -Simon Sez- Emma Sjoberg gagged with potato a potato held > in place with a cloth strip This actress was actually Natalia Cigliuti; she was bound and gagged later in the movie as well. She was tied to a chair and gagged with a yellow cloth tied between her teeth. The fact that she is a stunningly beautiful woman enhanced the delectability of the scene. > -Jawbreaker- Charlotte Lopez gagged (& choked to > death, unfortunately) with a HUGE candy jawbreaker Do you mean Charlotte Ayanna? |
| Hadji |
| Wednesday September 13 16:30:08 2006 Re: german ID |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Anyone know where this is from? > Girl tied to chair in an underground tunnel. > Title: Ein Fall für zwei (1981) aka Ein Fall fuer zwei Medium: TV Series Actress: Friederike Kempter Description: Episode: "Auge um Auge" (221) In the last 15 minutes of this 90 minute special, blonde Sonja Lessing (Friederike Kempter) is in a chair, hands bound behind with plasticuffs and a tight white cleave gag in her mouth. She is being held and threatened while her father watches, and there are some great close-ups, marvellous expressions and nice mmphing from her. |
| dental |
| Wednesday September 13 16:45:52 2006 Re: german ID |
| > Actress: Friederike Kempter
Pretty cute |
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| Wednesday September 13 17:58:56 2006 Re: Great Behind the Scenes Pics!! |
| cc wrote:
> A student film called The Projectionist. I enjoyed this very much. Thanks!! |
| Wednesday September 13 18:23:34 2006 Youtube scene. |
| Can anyone identify the following scene ,looked familiar to me tonight ,not totally sure as nobody speaks but i think it could be australian ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e73sSjUjxII&NR |
| renegadekid2005 |
| Wednesday September 13 18:47:20 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> > Compare Lucy gagged with an apple and Cameron Diaz gagged > with a lime! The Lucy shows plays it for laughs, exactly > because it doesn't keep Lucy from doing what she always > does--talk too much. Low common denominator humor, that > (but still funny). But when the lime comes out of > Cameron's mouth, it's funny in a grotesque kind of way. > We say to ourselves "Oh, jeez, that's not nice" > and then "but it sure was practical and > creative" and then "and it worked, too." > This kind of humorous touch makes the viewer think, and > it also is true to the persona that Cameron Diaz gives us > in all her films: comedic enough, but not slapstick. A > "thinking man's" comedienne. > > Here's a challenge for this forum: How many examples of > weird gags can we come up with from TV/cinema/MTV etc? > Standard gags don't count (tape, cloth, leather, rubber > balls). We've got a start with apples and limes. To add to the apples, there was an episode of Petticoat Junction where the incredible Lori Saunders was briefly gagged with an apple. The premise was she was talking too much so one of the other characters finally jams an apple into her mouth to shut her up. She stares for a few seconds in silence, then pulls out the apple and starts to eat it. Before leaving fruits, let's not forget the lemon: Daniella Evangelista in "Cabin By the Lake" Senta Berger in "When Women Lost Their Tails " And anyone remember why Natalia Cigliuti was gagged with a potato? |
| LV |
| Wednesday September 13 19:18:13 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| Hadji wrote:
> JP wrote: > > -Simon Sez- Emma Sjoberg gagged with potato a potato > held > > in place with a cloth strip > > This actress was actually Natalia Cigliuti; she was bound > and gagged later in the movie as well. She was tied to a > chair and gagged with a yellow cloth tied between her > teeth. Hmm..you're correct, my bad. If I'm not mistaken, Emma was the girl tied up earlier & gagged with the tablecloth. > > -Jawbreaker- Charlotte Lopez gagged (& choked to > > death, unfortunately) with a HUGE candy jawbreaker > Do you mean Charlotte Ayanna? Right again. I was writing that from memory & apparently mine isn't that good! :-) Thanks for the correction! |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Wednesday September 13 19:21:21 2006 Re: YouTube |
| > How about a blonde Playmate being B&G by Rose Marie?
---- A: Pamela Bryant in "Lunch Wagon" (1980). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Wednesday September 13 20:42:36 2006 Re: Days |
| Another Dave wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Only saw the final 15 minutes and Jennifer was not > shown. > > Nothing in Wednesday's preview either. > > Jen will be tied to a post today along with the putz. I > got this from a very reliable spoiler page. Sorry about the false alert for today. The action doesn't start until Thursday. I didn't realize the spoiler was TWO days ahead. |
| Another Dave |
| Wednesday September 13 21:39:52 2006 Numb3ers premiere |
| On the promo for the numbers season premiere, there is a quick shot of Diane Farr tied and gagged with a blue cloth.
I know a scene was mentioned but this is a confirmation of a gag and that it will be during the season premiere. I caught the promo by accident as I was switching stations and had to use the DVR rewind and slow mo to make sure it was her, but I can guarantee it was. Cant wait till September 22. |
| ID4J |
| id4j@aol.com |
| Wednesday September 13 21:46:25 2006 Update |
| Our Thursday update is complete with 8 new videos. |
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| Mai Li |
| http://www.majorjohns.com |
| Wednesday September 13 21:50:03 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| LV wrote:
> And anyone remember why Natalia Cigliuti was gagged with a potato? Because she kept eating the grapes. :) The weirdest and possibly grossest (without intending to be) gag I've seen was Diz White gagged with a toupee in "Bullshot". |
| MadFish |
| Wednesday September 13 21:56:56 2006 Re: Biel |
| 7 wrote:
> Hi I was just wondering what the url was to Jenny's sit > that was mentioned in an earlier post? Someone said it > was a mirror image to the bielsite. It's not a mirror, it's a copy, one the owner of the original was none too pleased about. |
| Brian R |
| Wednesday September 13 22:16:43 2006 Re: Silent movie |
| MadFish wrote:
> LV wrote: > > And anyone remember why Natalia Cigliuti was gagged > with a potato? > > Because she kept eating the grapes. :) > Love that line. One of my favorite gag references. One of my favorite DiDs, too. |
| LV |
| Wednesday September 13 23:32:58 2006 Re: Numb3ers premiere |
| ID4J wrote:
> On the promo for the numbers season premiere, there is a > quick shot of Diane Farr tied and gagged with a blue > cloth. > Great news. That's two lead detectives bound and gagged in season premieres along with the "Law & Order" scene. Hopefully, that's a trend for the season. |
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