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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Saturday September 02 00:22:45 2006 Lottery Tv show |
| So thursday night on nbc was that show with luke perry about a whole bunch of people winning the lottery, and one of the last scenes was this girl getting kidnapped... was this a repeat? |
| SLJ |
| Saturday September 02 09:07:44 2006 great site |
| Look at
http://www.robbscelebs.co.uk/oops_index.htm there you can find several great scenes in the sections Television Bondage and Movie Bondage |
| geploggt |
| Saturday September 02 12:01:11 2006 Re: Blade:The Series |
| civil wrote:
> > Replay on SpikeTV at 1:30am on Sept. 4 (eastern time > zone). Note that this is 1:30 am in the wee early hours of Sept. 4th, so for you night owls, it would be very late in the night (after midnight) on Sunday, Sept. 3 (but technically, it's early Monday, Sept. 4th). I know airings for the midnight-3 am slots can be a bit confusing as to whether the original alert poster is considering it to be LATE in the night or EARLY in the morning! I've actually missed alerted shows that way. I know myself I consider, say, 1 am to be late in the night rather than early in the morning (even though it IS actually early in the morning!) |
| Saturday September 02 17:23:38 2006 Re: Passions Scene |
| Wavy wrote:
> It is public my friend. Look back a few posts to my > original one. There is a link there to a zip file which > is posted directly from my server. First, thanks for the response, Wavy. Much appreciated. Second, I tried to do what you suggested, before I posted my note to you, but I couldn't for the life of me track down the original posting that might have had the link. I also went to your website, which I've visited before, in the hopes that...but no, nothing there. So, maybe my own search process through the corridors of the Forum is in need of repair. For now, I'd greatly appreciated either a reposting of the link, or some specific direction to the date of your original Forum posting with this link. Thanks for being so patient. DS |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Saturday September 02 17:48:21 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| > Pat, you are making some big assumptions here. First of
> all, you are assuming that older writers know what is > clueless and imitative. I've been lurking on this thread for awhile, now, and suddenly feel like I've got to add something. Credentials: I'm an "older" person. Lived in LA for a time, met a lot of screenwriters for TV and Hollywood, too. Definitely not a professional screenwriter, myself. But I have written some filmscripts, just for fun. Also a writer: more than 200 stories and four novels to date. So, here goes: Sounds to me like the original '60s message, "Don't trust anyone over 30!" is coming back to bite the Boomers! Yikes! Talk about co-opting the system! But I'd be careful about this message, because the other side is "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." TV writers don't learn from history that much, for all sorts of reasons. And the amount of imitation within a given year and across the years is evidence enough for that. But, as people have pointed out, writers aren't the only culprits. They follow directions, and ultimately the instructions come from the people with the money--sponsors, corporations, etc. "Follow the money," was Deep Throat's suggestion, and it's relevant here, too. When an innovative show gets great ratings, everyone jumps on the bandwagon to capitalize, before the idea's shelf-life expires. > You are also assuming is that imitative is by defintion > bad. Not necessarly the case. Raiders of the Lost Arc > was certainly imitative of 1940's and 1950's serials, but many people thought Raiders was a great movie. Well, let's distinguish between imitative versus "refential." "Raiders" wasn't imitative. What made it so good was its conscious, self-aware, cap-tipping acknowledgments of those older flicks. That was the point, of course, augmented with new technology. True, there's a point where this kind of insider referencing becomes smug and smarmy (some directors have made films satirizing this smarminess, too). Specifically with respect to gags and tie-ups, there are any number of boring, repetitive shots of DiDs in movies and TV shows. Same "peril," same tie-up, same gag, same plot line, just substitute the actress playing the damsel. But, there are any number of innovative twists and turns, too. Unless you want to spend all your time in front of the boob tube, you gotta be selective. See, here's the deal. Nobody is forcing us to watch any of the channels on TV, or go to any of the films, or buy any DVDs. We can vote on what's crappy and what's not by choosing to spend our bucks where we want them to count. So, if you want the cable networks and the main networks to stop producing such crappy shows, with such derivative and crappy writing--STOP BUYING THE SPONSOR'S PRODUCTS! > > I find it interesting that some people think there are a > bunch of easy answers when it comes to making good TV > shows. If there were, you'd see better TV shows. No, this is blatantly not true. There are lots and lots of creative writers, screenwriters, musicians, etc. out there, just dying for an opportunity. But big money is typically not directed towards untested talent. When it is, we all benefit, but it usually isn't. You gotta vote with your own dollars. That's the easy answer to seeing more creativity. >TV producers want to put out a good show because it's their job, and they take pride in it - just as anyone else takes pride in a job that they may have. Some people take pride in their jobs. Many don't. They follow the money, and do what they're told to do. Been on an unemployment line recently? The web was the main mover and shaker behind the explosion of visibility of new musicians, who couldn't get record companies to listen. Perhaps the web, or some other new technology to come, will be the catalyst to video creativity, including of bondage scenes and dialogue! Enough from me. |
| dane1 |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Saturday September 02 18:15:18 2006 Re: Passions Scene |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> couldn't for the life of me track > down the original posting that might have had the link. Believe this what you after |
| Jay L |
| http://www.slumberville.com/temp/passions.zip |
| Saturday September 02 21:29:29 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| dane1 wrote:
> I've been lurking on this thread for awhile, now, and > suddenly feel like I've got to add something. Sorry, don't see the connection to my original post, referring to a lot of scenes lately that are a turn off because they are so violent. DID, D for distress (not dead, tortured or mutilated), it's what this website is about, I think. When the ultra violent scenes are discussed here, sometimes with much verve, it kind of makes me sad; that was my point. |
| Saturday September 02 21:44:40 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> dane1 wrote: > > > I've been lurking on this thread for awhile, now, > and > > suddenly feel like I've got to add something. > > Sorry, don't see the connection to my original post, > referring to a lot of scenes lately that are a turn off > because they are so violent. DID, D for distress (not > dead, tortured or mutilated), it's what this website is > about, I think. When the ultra violent scenes are > discussed here, sometimes with much verve, it kind of > makes me sad; that was my point. Agreed. I too am NOT a fan of violent DiD scenes, to the point I don't even bother with them... I'll take a comedy scene or action/adventure scene over any of the uberviolent crap. I realize that those on this board should understand the phrase "to each his own" better than most... yet I still find it disturbing when a small but vocal minority of posters celebrate scenes that involve graphic torture and/or death. I could go a lot further into this, but doing so would almost certainly veer into the territory of a "deleted post report, reason: abusive" situation. |
| Not a Guest |
| Saturday September 02 22:23:41 2006 late alert -- A Crime of Passion |
| I just noticed that "A Crime of Passion" (Tracey Gold and Jessie Gold bound and gagged) is on right now on Lifetime Movie Network (LMN) in the pacific time zone. The scene hasn't happened yet. See the VCR alerts page for more details. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Saturday September 02 23:21:16 2006 Re: Lottery Tv show |
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> SLJ wrote: > So thursday night on nbc was that show with luke perry > about a whole bunch of people winning the lottery, and > one of the last scenes was this girl getting kidnapped... > was this a repeat? Windfall is the name of the show & if my TV Guide is correct, this past Thursday's episode was new. |
| Jason |
| Saturday September 02 23:29:19 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> Sorry, don't see the connection to my original post, > referring to a lot of scenes lately that are a turn off > because they are so violent. Yes, that's so. One of the problems with unsigned postings is that it's sometimes hard to trace who is responding to whom. And my post wasn't at all taking issue with the point you were making, but with some of the later developing arguments that defended or attacked screenwriters, etc. There is a connection between your concern about the "coarsening" of entertainment and the way money tends to go for the common denominator in corporate decision-making about what we see and hear on the waves. I just failed to make that connection explicit, and for that I apologize. I'm in your corner all the way. I'm a "distress" guy, not a "death and mutilation" guy. Dannysuling |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
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