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Monday September 04 00:06:17 2006
OLTL
Scrolled through the week's episode, and no bondage for Adrianna, who is still held hostage. Preview for Monday showed them back on the road, so maybe something but not looking too good.
Monday September 04 00:50:09 2006
Re: FYI: Not My Life
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> And was there much more?
> Yes, including a full treatment scene.

To add some detail, the gagged scene was very, very short and very dark, jerky, tint effects, flashback effect, gray duct tape (again) which is dumb since it was a very technical medical procedure and the guy was a doctor in a medical setting. Anyway, DID didn't look hot at all imho and none of the scenes were fun, or exciting or erotic, again, imho. Not a keeper for me.

Monday September 04 01:00:10 2006
Re: FYI: Not My Life
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> and very dark, jerky, tint effects, flashback effect,
> gray duct tape (again) which is dumb since it was a very
> technical medical procedure and the guy was a doctor in a
> medical setting. Anyway, DID didn't look hot at all imho
> and none of the scenes were fun, or exciting or erotic,
> again, imho. Not a keeper for me.

I agree. Plus, the head device on the tape-gagged damsel didn't look too good either. I also thought this damsel was not that attractive, so a pass here as well.
Monday September 04 01:49:36 2006
"Sharpe's Challenge" -- A Treat for Labor Day
For those of you who haven't had a chance to watch the superb "Sharpe's Challenge" on BBC-America the last 2 nights, be informed that it will repeat on that channel beginning at 12:00 noon Pacific time on Labor Day Monday. CYLL for times in your area.
More to the point, there are 5 rpt 5 scenes 'of interest' that are spread over the two 90-minute parts. All are brief but quite good.
[1] 30 minutes [with commercials] into Pt. 1, blonde English lass 'Celia' [Lucy Brown] is shown being marched along a dusty road with hands tied in front. Directly after that, with her hands still tied, her captors rip off her top after she is brought before the Rajah.
[2 & 3] Brief handgaggings as she is awakened from her sleep at 67 minutes and again at 84 minutes.
[4] 59 minutes into Pt. 2, 'Princess Davi Lal' [Karan Arora] is shown with her arms tied AOH as she is interrogated by the dastardly English villain.
[5] At 71 minutes, 'Celia' is shown with her arms tied behind her around a post. She also sports a thin cleavegag.
Overlooker
Monday September 04 01:57:23 2006
Re: OLTL

> (unsigned poster) wrote:

> Scrolled through the week's episode, and no bondage for
> Adrianna, who is still held hostage. Preview for Monday
> showed them back on the road, so maybe something but not
> looking too good.

If TVGuide.com is right, the Adrianna/kidnap storyline ends this week. The synopsis for Thursday is: "Dorian & Adrianna must save Rex," which probably means she has escaped or been rescued.
Jason
Monday September 04 07:19:35 2006
Electra Elf
If any of you are into Superheroine bondage like I am you should check out Electra Elf and Fluffy. It's a satire of Electra Woman and Dyna Girl and other superhero shows. Its available in some areas on cable access and also on the web.
Below is a link to official site.
Botz
dimitri_el_slayer@yahoo.com
http://electraelf.com
Monday September 04 07:36:45 2006
Re: Audiobook bondage
> By the way, are they just out on cassette?

And any idea how much of Anne Rice's (ahem, ahem) "vision," let us say, disappeared with the abridgement?
----
I only own the hardcopy versions of the "Sleeping Beauty" trilogy -- I've never listened to the audio cassette versions. But they're inexpensive enough from Amazon, etc.

Amazon also lists an October 2003 audio cassette version of "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty", narrated by Bevier Genvieve -- perhaps that's more digitally-compatible than the Amy Brenneman 1993 version.

The first book is the one that focuses most on Princess Beauty; the 2nd book is about 60/40 Beauty/male slaves; and in the 3rd book Beauty is a secondary character.
Kinky-napper
Monday September 04 09:53:30 2006
VAN's FiCTiON is Updated!
Happy Labor Day Campers! Solidarity Forever!! Chapter 3 of "SAM's WAR" is posted. Enjoy!
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/vf-new-banner.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Monday September 04 10:34:24 2006
Re: The end of the DID as we know it?
> Fact is it all comes down to money. It costs almost nothing to make an episode of "Deal No Deal" - and they rake in ad revenue hand over fist.

Ditto with sports and the 39 types of wresting including that new league(?) on sci fi. Cheap to make, money rolls in.

Shows that require actors and dare I say, different sets, cost much more money.
----
Exactly. The key equation is:

+ TV Ad revenue
- Production expense
= Net profit to network

Television shows are a MEANS to obtain ad revenue -- the end product is not important in and of itself. With the exception of a "Loss leader" (e.g., TNT's Spielberg's miniseries on the West), "Quality" is one element (but not the only element) to obtain higher ratings -- and thus be able to charge higher ad rates. E.g., one cable station during an outage focused its camera on an seawater aquarium. When it resumed programming, viewers demanded the return of a slot for the "Aquarium".

Unfortunately for *us*, another rich source of DiD-scenes -- Late-night TV action/mystery -- disappeared years ago. Instead of "Cobra", "Hot Shots", the last season of "T.J. Hooker", etc. -- has been largely replaced by the Infomercial scourge. What could be better for networks? -- Instead of incurring a Production expense, they're PAID to run the infomercials -- which likely exceeds the marginal revenue ("MR", for those who suffered thru Economics classes) they would've gained by a new or even a re-run TV show.

If you're a shareholder of one of the network corporations (and likely many of us are), it's hard to complain about this focus on profitability. If people were REALLY interested in quality writing and acting that isn't targeted at the Age 13-39 demographic w/ lots of disposable income, they'd be tuning in to PBS and Arts & Entertainment made-for-TV productions. Since A&E has pretty much abandoned high-profile made-for-TV movies (boy, I miss its "Horatio Hornblower" series), ad revenue didn't justify the high production costs.
Kinky-napper
Monday September 04 11:38:10 2006
blade the series
hi all! i missed the first 20 minutes of last night's repeat of Blade the series on Spike. Also, a fast scan through the tape didn't turn up any tape gag scenes like I'd read were supposed to be there. did i miss the good stuff or were the scenes so short i missed them when i was scanning through?
i looked at the database and there STILL isn't an entry for the episode (and I know lots of folks have seen it by now).
i'll scan through it again, slower, but any help or info (or entry) appreciated. If I see the scene i'll put an entry in myself but I may have missed it.
rob roy
Monday September 04 12:30:48 2006
Re: The end of the DID as we know it
This post was deleted.

Poster: AsbestosFilter
Reason: I said to leave out the politics.
The Moderator
Monday September 04 14:46:58 2006
Passions Warning!
Hey guys,

I don't know anything about this show, but I walked into the room and caught the last minute or so of this show.

A very good-looking brunett was wondering the halls in a hotel. (She appeared to be looking for someone). A guy dressed in black snuck up behind her and grabbed her with a handgag.

I have no clue what the storyline here is, but it certainly looks like a kidnapping of some sort.
McBain
Monday September 04 15:13:12 2006
Re: YOUTUBE strikes again!
Arizona Knight Wolf wrote:

> Here is a good little scene from the all-time favortie
> Spanish movie EL SECUESTRO.

When you wrote "good little scene" you misspelled "softcore bondage porn!" ;>
Pat Powers
http://www.bondagerotica.com
Monday September 04 15:42:21 2006
Re: blade the series
rob roy wrote:

> hi all! i missed the first 20 minutes of last night's
> repeat of Blade the series on Spike. Also, a fast scan
> through the tape didn't turn up any tape gag scenes like
> I'd read were supposed to be there. did i miss the good
> stuff or were the scenes so short i missed them when i
> was scanning through?
> i looked at the database and there STILL isn't an entry
> for the episode (and I know lots of folks have seen it by
> now).

There were indeed several delectable tape gag scenes. The first one involved a good-looking blonde who had been kidnapped by the dastardly villain. She was gagged with a strip of duct tape while he was taunting and menacing her.
Late in the episode, the hero finds four bound and gagged damsels, two of whom are lying on gurneys, dead. The remaining two live damsels have their hands chained to a wall and are gagged with duct tape. The dead damsels are gagged with duct tape as well. The two living bound and gagged damsels are sisters.
Be warned, there is a minor putz scene, but it detracts only minimally from the quality of this episode, in my opinion.
Hadji
Monday September 04 16:13:15 2006
Re: blade the series
Did anyone manage to snag a few caps from this scene, I missed the second airing over the weekend.

Monday September 04 16:16:36 2006
Re: End of DID as we know it
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I couldn't agree with you more. There's also another
> thing: they're young. I understand that it's VERY hard,
> in the sense that it's impossible, to get a job writing
> for TV if you are over 30. TV producers want to capture
> the young demographic, therefore they hire young writers
> hoping they'll do the trick. To a certain extent, I think
> this is a fairly good idea. I mean, we might STILL be
> getting our yucks from Soupy Sales and Shecky Greene and
> all those other Borscht Belt guys who seemed to be the
> only people writing comedy for TV from 1950 to 1975, if
> TV hadn't gone for the youth market.
>
> That said, it would be nice if there were at least 1 or 2
> older writers working for most shows to tell the kids
> when they're being clueless and imitative, because I
> think the problem for a lot of the younger writers is
> that they don't KNOW they are being clueless and
> imitative. At one time, it was believed you weren't ready
> to write anything really good until you hit your 40s --
> until you had lived long enough to, like, KNOW things. Of
> course, it's demonstrably true that many people live
> until their 90s without actually knowing anything.
>
>
>
> Pat, you are making some big assumptions here. First of
> all, you are assuming that older writers know what is
> clueless and imitative. Perhaps these older writers were
> just as clueless and imitative when they were young as
> the younger ones supposedly are now. So now they are just
> older writers who are still clueless and imitative. Now,
> if you are just talking about older writers who are
> brilliant and can still provide great ideas that will
> make everyone money, those guys usually don't have
> trouble finding work despite their age.

The assumption I make is that over time, people learn more things about their craft, that learning doesn't stop when college ends. I think that's a pretty sound assumption. If you've had two decades to watch films and TV with a fully formed adult mind, you have a better chance of understanding where all the cow pies are than someone who has only been doing so for five years. I don't think that's a hugely wild assumption.

Now, it's true that being around longer doesn't GUARANTEE that you know better than younger people. Some people's ability to learn and powers of observation are remarkably limited. Sometimes when a creative person successful early on, it "freezes" their creativity as they repeat the thing that made them successful, over and over -- witness all thse novelists who write the same novel over and over again.

As for older, brilliant writers always being able to find work, this is what I call the "genius fallacy." Most people are not geniuses. Geniuses and "brilliant people" generally are noted for their ability to do what they do despite the system, if necessary. Their abilities transcend or rise above it. Saying that a system will not prevent brilliant people from succeeding is not exactly praising it.

> You are also assuming is that imitative is by defintion
> bad. Not necessarly the case. Raiders of the Lost Arc
> was certainly imitative of 1940's and 1950's serials, but
> many people thought Raiders was a great movie.

I think Van has already covered this one. Lucas did a very careful and intelligent analysis of what made the old serials work before he made Raiders. I'm sure the basic idea was that modern filmmaking techniques and so forth would make the old serials even more powerful, but as the plethora of pallid imitations of Raiders showed (Firewalker, etc.) just "imitating" the old serials doesn't work. There's a reason no one watches them any more.

> I find it interesting that some people think there are a
> bunch of easy answers when it comes to making good TV
> shows. If there were, you'd see better TV shows. TV
> producers want to put out a good show because it's their job, and they take pride in it - just as anyone else takes pride in a job that they may have.

OK, that's a good point. If it were easy, and led to ratings success, you have to believe TV people would do it. But they don't. Why not? I have an easy answer, but implementing the answer will be anything but easy.



Pat Powers
patpowers1995@yahoo.com
http://www.hentairevue.com
Monday September 04 17:10:02 2006
Re: The end of the DID as we know it
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was deleted.
> Poster: AsbestosFilter
> Reason: I said to leave out the politics.

What politics? This has been an issue for the last 10+ years.
Goddamnit.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
Monday September 04 19:41:50 2006
Re: Tied to the tracks
Snidely Claw wrote:

> Just found this group and thought I'd spread the word. A
> group to fill the gap left behind when Yahoo closed so
> many similarly themed groups before. Dedicated to
> Railroad track bondage of all kinds they'll appreciate
> any contributions all you moustache twirlers out there
> are prepared to share.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tiedtothetracks/

It is a great Yahoo group, although one of the members there is using a bunch of photos from my sites without permission of me or the photos' creators. The moderator of the group is not the person who uploaded the photos.

I did join and ask that they change the images to use some of the photos from my Railroad Bondage site that are publicly available, as well as some of the photos from my main site: Moraxian's Game Room.

I'm sure it'll all work out.
Moraxian
http://www.railroadbondage.com
Monday September 04 19:50:40 2006
Re: brittany daniel
moxx of balhoom wrote:

> I think the film you are referring to is called "THe
> Hamiltons". I know because i was looking into it
> myself just last week. According to IMDB it was shown at
> some festival or other but has to date not recieved a
> distribution deal.
>
> In other words it's sitting on a shelf unseen while S***e
> like Jackass 2 gets released internationally.

The Hamiltons has been picked up by Lions Gate films, no news on if its going to DVD or cinema release. No release date either yet.



GreyCol
Monday September 04 21:56:55 2006
Re: The end of the DID as we know it
AsbestosFilter wrote:
>
> What politics?

Mention of the US Government.

> This has been an issue for the last 10+
> years.

That doesn't make it topical. I've let this thread go
on because people seem to want to talk about it, and I
promised to give more leeway in some of these things.
However, if it becomes a problem I'll clamp it down.

> Goddamnit.

It pays to listen when I give guidance.

The Moderator
Monday September 04 22:00:19 2006
Popular scene
heads up for the Popular scene with Carly Pope. On tomorrow(tuesday) on family channel at 10pm eastern.
that 70's show
Monday September 04 22:37:03 2006
Re: blade the series
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Did anyone manage to snag a few caps from this scene, I
> missed the second airing over the weekend.

You still have a couple more chances to catch it. It will re-air this coming Saturday at noon and Sunday at 3pm EST.
MadFish
Monday September 04 22:56:51 2006
Re: Tied to the tracks

>Moraxian wrote:

>
> It is a great Yahoo group, although one of the members
> there is using a bunch of photos from my sites without
> permission of me or the photos' creators. The moderator
> of the group is not the person who uploaded the photos.
>
> I did join and ask that they change the images to use
> some of the photos from my Railroad Bondage site that are
> publicly available, as well as some of the photos from my
> main site: Moraxian's Game Room.
>
> I'm sure it'll all work out.

Hi, I'm the mod of the group. Sorry about the use of your photos. I've deleted the ones I think were used. Please tell if any others have been used. And thanks to every one for the kind words.



Corkey
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tiedtothetracks/
Monday September 04 23:27:05 2006
Re: Popular scene
that 70's show wrote:

> heads up for the Popular scene with Carly Pope. On
> tomorrow(tuesday) on family channel at 10pm eastern.

Not seeing that on the ABC Family Channel schedule. Shows "Who's Line is it."

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