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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Wednesday October 25 00:14:17 2006 Re: ALERT |
| Mel Gibson wrote:
> Red haired woman (Lauren Holly) tied up on CBS right > now....not sure what show. HAnds behind to chair If they are in an airplane hanger, it's probably a repeat of ncis from last season. Keep on watching. Zeeva cuffs herself later on in the episode. Decent ep for the handcuff fans. Think she had a black pantsuit on. |
| AsbestosFilter |
| AsbestosFilter@gmail.com |
| Wednesday October 25 00:20:32 2006 Re: Cleopatra 2525 sets the standard and gets ignored |
| JP wrote:
> Hey Pat, which episode is this one? I assume it's an old > one (the show ISN'T on anymore, is it???). > > The scene you described isn't in the database, but I > *think* the series is available on DVD so sounds like it > might be worth looking up. It's on DVD (and a bunch of places online) Do be cautioned that the show is painful to watch. Just the intro will make you wonder if that beam above your head will support your weight if you hang yourself from it. If you get me the episode number, I may be able to make clips. An approximate time would be great too. |
| AsbestosFilter |
| AsbestosFilter@gmail.com |
| Wednesday October 25 00:44:14 2006 Re: Tierras de Pasiones; scenes for didclip hosts |
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This post was moved to The Trading Forum. Poster: MAV Reason: Off-topic. |
| The Moderator |
| Wednesday October 25 00:47:00 2006 Re: ALERT |
| Mel Gibson wrote:
> Red haired woman (Lauren Holly) tied up on CBS right > now....not sure what show. HAnds behind to chair Repeat: Record number: 12021 Title: Navy NCIS: Naval Criminal Investigative Service aka NCIS Medium: TV Series Actress: Lauren Holly; Cote de Pablo Description: Episode: "Jeopardy" (3.22) About 15 minutes in Lauren Holly is taken hostage and is marched into an hangar, wrists tied behind. She's ordered to kneel in the middle of the room, then is instructed to sit in a chair while one of her captors ties her midsection to the chair. Later she frees herself, but is retied to the chair, this time with her ankles bound as well. At the end when the NCIS director is to be exchanged, her captor is suspicious of a trick, so he throws handcuffs at Agent David and instructs her to cuff herself, then lie face down. Episode ends without showing either woman being unbound. No gags. |
| Brian R |
| Wednesday October 25 01:19:28 2006 Batman? |
| Does anyone know where this is from? It bears no resemblance to any of the listings in Brian's db. But there sure is a Batman. I don't recall ever viewing this scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpnAhM-qANE |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday October 25 01:40:51 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> Does anyone know where this is from? It bears no > resemblance to any of the listings in Brian's db. Ive seen this before, its a fan film, not a genuine production. |
| Anubis |
| http://www.anuvids.com |
| Wednesday October 25 08:00:44 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Anubis wrote:
> Ive seen this before, its a fan film, not a genuine > production. Yeah. Fair game or not for the DB, oh powers-that-be? It's in the IMDb and isn't a "commercial video" in the bondage sense, and it does kinda keep coming up... |
| Raffish |
| http://bondageparade.com/search.cgi?link=tt0398744 |
| Wednesday October 25 09:13:29 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Raffish wrote:
> Anubis wrote: > > > Ive seen this before, its a fan film, not a genuine > > > production. Not genuine in the sense of being from the same stable as Batman TV/cinema material, but surely a production. > > Yeah. Fair game or not for the DB, oh powers-that-be? > It's in the IMDb and isn't a "commercial video" > in the bondage sense, and it does kinda keep coming up... Several productions of "Urinetown", to which I was partly alluding in a deleted post, are viewable on YouTube and nowhere else, having finished their theatre run. These videos are apparently legitimate, posted by their copyright owners. If shown on TV, they would undoubtedly be considered mainstream. YouTube is a medium, like any other. If it comes to be viewed as much as television or the cinema, and film makers post their own dramatic or musical material on it, will this not force a redefinition of "mainstream" to include it? |
| Mad Dan |
| Wednesday October 25 11:58:07 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Mad Dan wrote:
> YouTube is a medium, like any other. If it comes to be > viewed as much as television or the cinema, and film > makers post their own dramatic or musical material on it, > will this not force a redefinition of "mainstream" to include it? Nah, I-for one- wouldn't want blurry amateur videos of boys tying up their classmates appear in the DB..... |
| Per |
| Wednesday October 25 12:17:29 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Two Things -
1. Jez, saddlebags...we heard ya'. Even way over here. 2. Mainstream to me indicates a narrative structure, no matter the pipeline: net, tv, dvd, etc. Just my view of it. |
| Lyter |
| Wednesday October 25 12:28:59 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Mad Dan wrote:
> YouTube is a medium, like any other. If it comes to be > viewed as much as television or the cinema, and film > makers post their own dramatic or musical material on it, > will this not force a redefinition of "mainstream" to include it? By way of clarification, I wouldn't expect anything other than professional-standard material in our particular field of interest to be mentioned in this forum or the DB. That said, a lot of stuff aired on TV or shown in cinemas is hardly approaches what most of us would call a professional standard. :-) |
| Mad Dan |
| Wednesday October 25 12:30:44 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Mad Dan wrote:
shown in cinemas > is hardly approaches A bit like my editing. Sorry. |
| M |
| http://www.dansdidnts.com |
| Wednesday October 25 12:35:57 2006 Re: Great clip on youtube |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfZwgQFs2MQ Who's this? What episode?
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| Wednesday October 25 12:59:46 2006 GABRIELA ESPANIC |
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This post was deleted. Poster: SADDLEBAGS Reason: Do not post in all caps. Such posts are subject to deletion. It's the internet equivalent of shouting, and is very hard on the eyes. |
| The Moderator |
| Wednesday October 25 13:15:03 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Lyter wrote:
> > 2. Mainstream to me indicates a narrative structure, no > matter the pipeline: net, tv, dvd, etc. Just my view of > it. Agreed on the narrative structure, but "mainstream" has always meant made in the first place for public exposition, i.e. theatre, TV or ordinary, non-specialist cinemas. The Internet, in the form of YouTube and similar public-access websites, has now joined these outlets, and people are making films, mostly poor but some good, for it. Some of the better films shown may eventually appear on TV or in cinemas and make some money, in which case they will be considered both professional and classically mainstream. At least one I've seen has full opening and closing credits, suggesting it was made with a view to TV showing. What is starting to blur, and is surely of relevance here, is the distinction between amateur and professional. |
| Mad Dan |
| Wednesday October 25 14:39:39 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Anubis wrote:
> Ive seen this before, its a fan film, not a genuine > production. Thanks, Anubis. Pretty impressive for a fan film. It's certainly worth keeping. The DiD fits into the "cute but terrified" category! BTW: Did Bindher ever clean up the bad link in your latest update? Dannysuling |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday October 25 14:43:32 2006 Re: Great clip on youtube |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfZwgQFs2MQ Who's this? > What episode? Pretty sure it's "War of the Worlds," episode 1.10, "Good Samaritan." DiD is C.J. Fidler. Nice, clean, self-contained visual scene. No fuss around the edges, even if the dialogue is reaallllly corny! |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday October 25 14:59:59 2006 Re: Great clip on youtube |
| Hi everyone! Newbie to the pages here, but great stuff and I would like to contribute.
Can you subscribe to this board and be auto notified of posts? or, do you simply check it everyday? can you actually save the youtube clips? or are they view only? I have 2 Tivos in my house now and DirectTV with allot of channels. I know I can save to video tape (yuck, already done it) but what I have yet to try is my video capture device that I use for my old 8mm movies. I think that will work and if so, then I just need to start programming off the alerts here and then transferring them to the PC. Anybody go direct from the Tivo to the PC here? image quality should be better, no? If anybody wants me to record shows on the tivo I can do so and I look forward to helping out when possible with requests, thanks |
| Nitro |
| citro@atlanticbb.net |
| Wednesday October 25 15:04:09 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Mad Dan wrote:
>The Internet, in the > form of YouTube and similar public-access websites, has > now joined these outlets, and people are making films, > mostly poor but some good, for it. > > Some of the better films shown may eventually appear on > TV or in cinemas and make some money, in which case they > will be considered both professional and classically > mainstream....What is starting to blur, and is surely of > relevance here, is the distinction between amateur and professional. Mad, my friend, I certainly support your position. Not long ago I posted a Youtube link to a trailer for a Brazilian film titled "Desaparecida" (loosely translated as "Missing Person" or "Missing Woman"), with Francisca Queiroz in a stunning scene that lasted 10 minutes. It's actually a preview in the longest sense, since the film hasn't yet been completely shot, as far as I can tell. This was sort of a trial location shoot, and the only place I've seen it is Youtube. So that's even another category that the db ought to acknowledge somehow, it seems to me--even if the actual film never gets made! I'd argue it's still mainstream. And boy does it have a narrative structure! But your main point is even more important. It might be that Youtube doesn't last more than another year or two. But for sure whatever displaced/replaces it will be even more powerful, even more accessible (until some corporation buys it up and stuffs the innovation and creativity). The line between mainstream pro and mainstream amateur is disappearing even as I write these words. In some ways this is scary, and in others not. A good analogy is pop music--actually, more specifically rock-and-roll. Garage bands have for many years recorded their stuff and sent in the tapes unsolicited to the labels big and small, hoping for a break. And they gave copies to anyone who wanted to hear them. For example, the Kingsmen's version of "Louie Louie" is barely one step more than a garage take, with all the clinkers. And then there are the various (and infamous) "bootleg" albums that have circulated for years in underground public venues--for purchase!--and that have even become collectors' items (the "Basement Tapes" for example). This stuff gets played over the air on good radio stations, too, from time to time. People know about them and want to hear them. So what happens on Youtube with videos--specifically in our case bondage videos--is that clips are broadcast ranging from the seriously professional but not yet before the public (as in "Desaparecida") to nicely done fan flicks (as in the "Batman" clip I asked about), to the very amateur and even grossly ineffectual "I tied up my girlfriend--here, wanna see?" There's no reason why all the amateur crap ought to be included in the db. But there are lots of reasons why this community ought to be able to lobby for the inclusion of some of the stuff when its really good and meets certain criteria. So how do we determine what's "good"? Hmmm.... Well, we could have an annual nomination followed by a vote, handled by someone's website. Any nominated clip getting a majority (3/5s?, whatever) would be written into the database. Any other ideas? Great topic, though! Dannysuling |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday October 25 16:24:42 2006 Bad Reputation |
| A new flick called Bad Reputation has a bondage scene judging by the pic on this link:
http://joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=5705 |
| Jackie |
| Wednesday October 25 17:10:38 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> Thanks, Anubis. Pretty impressive for a fan film. It's > certainly worth keeping. The DiD fits into the "cute > but terrified" category! BTW, for those interested in watching the complete short film, I noticed that it's currently up at the link below. (The version that we've been discussing is my edited clip, the same one I posted in my guest update a couple weeks ago. Actually, that particular YouTube poster seems to be getting most of his clips from my guest updates -- which is fine by me, though at this rate, YouTube may be putting the brakes on him real soon.) |
| Raffish |
| http://youtube.com/watch?v=YlUpYRysm0g |
| Wednesday October 25 18:05:25 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Raffish wrote:
> BTW, for those interested in watching the complete short > film, I noticed that it's currently up at the link below. Whoa! Now that's impressive. Kudos to them. I don't remember seeing the edited version on your site, Raffish--must have been in the members' only room. Alas. But you're very kind to point us to the full flick! And Kim Weber is just the right cutie for this. If only Commissioner Gordon hadn't flubbed putting her glasses back on! |
| Dannysuling |
| Wednesday October 25 19:18:52 2006 Re: Cleopatra 2525 sets the standard and gets ignored |
| AsbestosFilter wrote:
> It's on DVD... > If you get me the episode number, I may be able to make > clips. An approximate time would be great too. yeah, I saw that the series is available on DVD & I was gonna roder from NetFlix to get the scene (I still dub scenes to video (well, DVD-R now) & avoid computer clips) but I don't know the episode number so I'd have no idea even what season it's from. Pat, do you have any idea of the episode title? |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Wednesday October 25 20:14:07 2006 DAMSELS UNDER GLASS is Updated! |
| Good Evening Brian'skteers!
Chapter 2 of "Jackie Silberston in Helpless in Seattle" is posted. Enjoy! |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Wednesday October 25 21:01:51 2006 Re: Batman? |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> Whoa! Now that's impressive. Kudos to them. I don't > remember seeing the edited version on your site, > Raffish--must have been in the members' only room. Alas. > But you're very kind to point us to the full flick! No problem! (But please do read Discussion from October 14 if you're still having trouble believing me about the guest/member thing...) |
| Raffish |
| Wednesday October 25 22:08:43 2006 Update |
| Currently uploading.
By popular demand - more Brainman |
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| Stephanie |
| stephanie@majorjohns.com |
| http://www.majorjohns.com |
| Wednesday October 25 22:17:16 2006 Youtube and stuff |
| 1. Amateur films are not appropriate for the DB unless they have been released through mainstream media.
2. Web sites, including Youtube, are not mainstream media. 3. The forums and the DB overlap to a great extent, but their topical domains are not identical. No Youtube-only production, podcast, web film, etc. is to be placed in the DB. 4. Stage plays are topical for the forums but not the DB, unless there should be a TV or movie version. 5. Any further discussion of Youtube, its policies or techinical matters should be posted to the Trade page. Links and discussion of scenes shown on it are appropriate for this page. |
| The Moderator |
| Wednesday October 25 22:22:14 2006 Re: Great clip on youtube |
| Nitro wrote:
> Can you subscribe to this board and be auto notified of > posts? No. Some plans are have been in work forever and a day along these lines, but I wouldn't expect anything soon. > can you actually save the youtube clips? or are they view > only? There may be ways. Bring it up on the Trade page. > Anybody go direct from the Tivo to the PC > here? image quality should be better, no? This would also be better asked on Trade. That's become our default "tech corner". > If anybody wants me to record shows on the tivo I can do > so and I look forward to helping out when possible with > requests, thanks As clip requests must be posted on Trade, you should also bring this up there. |
| The Moderator |
| Wednesday October 25 22:56:10 2006 Tierra de Pasiones clip |
| Ok, first, the bad news. This is on a server that is a bit slow to download, and will only be up for 2 weeks. It is also entirely too large at 50 megs (Quicktime).
But having said that, this is the full scene on Tierra de Pasiones that was on this week. It's about 10 minutes long, the first minute and a half are the two women brutally fighting each other. (Fans of the show have waited for that moment all series). And a warning - parts of this clip are kind of brutal, like when the antagonist hurts her hand on her victim's face from punching her, so she looks around for an object to beat her with - and settles on a big stick, which she uses several times. I am not into the violence at all but it's part of the ongoing scene. Yes, the antagonist is played by the same woman who duct taped Ana Lucia Domingues last year. Wouldn't it be interesting if she had some input into how these scenes unfold? One can dream. But it should be said that while this scene is good in many ways, it doesn't compare to Ana Lucia's. I'll tell you who I'd really like to see in a serious scene - Andrea Montenegro, peruvian model bit player on "Amores" (Telemundo, 9 PM) who also shows up in Decisiones from time to time. Incredible woman! If anyone has a site who wants to host this scene, by all means do so. |
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| TelemundoGroupie ( formerly skezemuth) |
| http://www7.spread-it.com/dl.php?id=6ab09e70fb7fff465981eb44c554b6f3262833ee |
| Wednesday October 25 23:01:31 2006 Re: Cleopatra 2525 sets the standard and gets ignored |
| rex wrote:
> Pat Powers wrote: > > > I had a tape on tonight with Cleopatra 2525 on. > > was this a new episode you were recording while it was on > tonight, or an old tape you had recorded earlier with > this scene on it you happened to be watching tonight? > sounds interesting. I bought the Cleopatra 2525 DVD, and that one episode wouldn't be reason enough to buy the DVD (you can decide for yourself if watching the leads bop around in skimpy outfits makes up for it...plus there was occasional bondage throghout the series). The episode in question is called "Flying Lessons", and while there are some great shots of babes not only wearing TIGHT rubber gags, as well as collars and leashes, and being led around as well, you should be aware that there are a few problems: 1) There are way more closeups of putzes than of the babes. 2) The good shots occur near the beginning and end, with very little through the middle. That said, it would make some excellent caps, and maybe even a heavily edited clip, but the episode as a whole is weak, despite the heavy fetish theme. |
| The Kindly One |
| Wednesday October 25 23:22:57 2006 Re: Tierra de Pasiones clip |
| > If anyone has a site who wants to host this scene, by all means do so.
Bless you sir for finding this on a site where it can be downloaded. I totally forgot to record this and I hate missing the Novela scenes, as most of them are quite good. I'm not into the violence aspect either, but thankfully she doesn't look as banged and bloodied up as some damsels I have seen. As for posting it, what I might do (time permitting), is to trim the scene and re-encode in another format. If I should get that happening, you all will be the first to know. |
| Wavy |
| verywavy@yahoo.com |
| Wednesday October 25 23:44:15 2006 Re: Tierra de Pasiones clip |
| Wavy wrote:
> As for posting it, what I might do (time permitting), is > to trim the scene and re-encode in another format. If I > should get that happening, you all will be the first to know. Heh...I was just thinking of doing the same thing, since I should have some time tonight. No reason we can't both do it: more choices are always good! Thanks for the clip, TelemundoGroupie. Looks great. |
| Raffish |
| Wednesday October 25 23:56:05 2006 Re: Cleopatra 2525 sets the standard and gets ignored |
| Mr. The Kindly One
Thanks for all the info on Cleopatra 2525! |
| rex |
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