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| Monday November 06 01:08:16 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> So, what happened on Desperate Housewives tonight? To answer my own question: NOTHING. I recorded it and then fast-forwarded through it. Isn't this sweeps? This show is going to have to do better than this to get more people to tune in! |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 01:10:02 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> TSR wrote: > > > Tonights Desperate Houswives is described as a > > Hostage situation in a supermarket. > > 9 PM Eastern on ABC > > So, what happened on Desperate Housewives tonight? No bondage at all on DH tonight. Pretty frustrating for such a hottie-ridden show. |
| Tom |
| Monday November 06 01:17:37 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| > To answer my own question: NOTHING. I recorded it and
> then fast-forwarded through it. Isn't this sweeps? This > show is going to have to do better than this to get more > people to tune in! I don't know, but I somehow suspect that the average television viewer watches a show for the 'story' and not for a bondage scene. I realise that sounds like a crazy thought and all... |
| Cohen |
| Monday November 06 01:27:52 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Tom wrote:
> Tapemaster wrote: > > > TSR wrote: > > > > > Tonights Desperate Houswives is described as a > > > > Hostage situation in a supermarket. > > > 9 PM Eastern on ABC > > > > So, what happened on Desperate Housewives tonight? > > No bondage at all on DH tonight. Pretty frustrating for > such a hottie-ridden show. This show is almost as frustrating as "Charlie's Angels"! (Yes, I know "Charlie's Angels" had a few scenes, but compared to its TREMENDOUS potential it was very disappointing.) You would think that Teri Hatcher would bring some of that bondage magic of hers to the show. She is only one more bound-and-gagged scene away from breaking the all-time record. She shares the record with Noel Neill, 11 bound-and-gagged scenes each (although someone here once mentioned that there is a Chinese actress who has had more.) I just saw an ad for a new movie with Eva Longoria. Maybe we will get something there. So far, Eva has not been bound and gagged. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 01:34:20 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Cohen wrote:
> > To answer my own question: NOTHING. I recorded it > and > > then fast-forwarded through it. Isn't this sweeps? > This > > show is going to have to do better than this to get > more > > people to tune in! > > > I don't know, but I somehow suspect that the average > television viewer watches a show for the 'story' and not > for a bondage scene. > > I realise that sounds like a crazy thought and all... Now that's just CRAZY talk! Seriously though, I would bet that A LOT more people would tune in to the next episode (including people who never watch the show) if the preview showed Eva Longoria bound and gagged. The networks want MORE people than just the average viewers to tune in. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 02:00:03 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| > Now that's just CRAZY talk!
You're giving a fine example, thank you. > Seriously though, I would bet that A LOT more people > would tune in to the next episode (including people who > never watch the show) if the preview showed Eva Longoria > bound and gagged. The networks want MORE people than just > the average viewers to tune in. Is an 'average' viewer a bondage fan in your eyes? Do you have a dead body in your basement that you talk to and address as 'Mother'? Alright, I'm dropping it. |
| Cohen |
| Monday November 06 03:25:01 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Cohen wrote:
> Is an 'average' viewer a bondage fan in your eyes? Hrm...well, Tapemaster is certainly no stranger to speaking for himself, but my interpretation of his post was that his answer to this question was a very clear "no." The argument is that a show with a certain core viewership can expand on that viewership by finding ways to appeal to "fringe" viewers (that's us) who would not otherwise tune in, so long as those ways can be worked into the show in ways that don't annoy the core -- and that this may have a non-zero impact on at least a smattering of TV producers, writers, and execs who are fighting harder than ever for every last share point. I've never quite figured out what's so crazy about that hypothesis, and this season can't really be said to have cast too much doubt on it so far. Still, for whatever reason, it seems like something we need to argue about at least twice a year, I guess because it just wouldn't feel like Discussion otherwise. ;) |
| Raffish |
| Monday November 06 04:06:09 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Cohen wrote:
> > Now that's just CRAZY talk! > > You're giving a fine example, thank you. Hey, I'm JOKING around. Did you not catch that? > > > Seriously though, I would bet that A LOT more people > > > would tune in to the next episode (including people > who > > never watch the show) if the preview showed Eva > Longoria > > bound and gagged. The networks want MORE people than > just > > the average viewers to tune in. > > Is an 'average' viewer a bondage fan in your eyes? No, average viewers are not bondage fans. I said that the networks want MORE than just the average viewers to tune in. They want as many people as possible to tune in. Therefore, it would be in their best interest to do things to get other people to tune in as well. Sex sells, and bondage is part of sex. If you show attractive females bound and gagged in mainstream TV shows, more people are going to tune in than if you don't show them. > > Do you have a dead body in your basement that you talk to > and address as 'Mother'? > Alright, I'm dropping it. What's with the hostility? Or are YOU just joking around? |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 04:11:41 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Raffish wrote:
> Hrm...well, Tapemaster is certainly no stranger to > speaking for himself, but my interpretation of his post > was... Thank you Raffish. You explained EXACTLY what I meant. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 05:04:15 2006 Re: Passions |
| i am a fan of blindfolds. and this scene would be a classic...
if it weren't for the stupid GAG ruining it! yeah, i hate GAGS! they ruin all kinds of great scenes and shots that would be perfect, with a beautiful BLINDFOLDED damsel, but they throw the ineffective, most useless piece of bondage paraphernalia there is, a GAG, on her. why? who knows, since the GAG does absolutely niothing except keep you from seeing her mouth... maybe they don't lke her lipstick. honestly, pardon the vociferocity (word?) of my response, but i get on here and have to put up with you guys bangng on my favorite fetish of all for months on end...its 'blindfolds suck' and 'i hate blindfolds'. honestly, for all the complaining you guys do, you would forget that there is no shortage of gags anywhere you want to look. i have yet to pickup a bondage magazin or go to a site where they arent gagging girls right and left. in the meantime, do you know how many times i bought a magaizine, wrapped in plastic of course, hoping to see a blindfold, and going months w/out getting even a single picture? and then, when i do, she s gagged, and you cant even tell she has a face! so, when you do all your complaining about blindfolds, try to remember that there are billions, BILLIONS of pics and videos and clips out there catering to your fetish, and everytime you badmouth blindfolds, it affects those of us who love them! |
| obliv |
| obliv326@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 05:21:53 2006 Dexter |
| Dexter is a show about a man who is a serial killer. The twist is that he is a nice guy who was trained by his father to kill other killers.
Anyways expect for the woman who plays Dexter's sister to get the treatment. In the book (the series is based on books, yes), she is B&G. That's all I will say... because I would be giving away a major spoiler. |
| Monday November 06 08:25:31 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| This is a women's show. Women don't want to see their TV heroins objectified for the male viewer by being bound and gagged. I'd say the best chance we have of seing anything will involve bondage as purely a sex game or bedroom activity, but not as a convincing narrative device.
Soap Operas are an exception, because they're completely immersed in over-the-top fantasy and peril. |
| X |
| Monday November 06 09:54:04 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| X wrote:
> This is a women's show. Women don't want to see their TV > heroines objectified for the male viewer by being bound > and gagged. I'd say the best chance we have of seeing > anything will involve bondage as purely a sex game or > bedroom activity, but not as a convincing narrative > device. > > Soap Operas are an exception, because they're completely > immersed in over-the-top fantasy and peril. And if "DH" isn't a soap opera, what is it? By the way, I don't think ratings for last season's finale were hurt any by Marcia Cross being "objectified for the male viewer" by being psycho-strapped. Oh, wait a minute-she was strapped to a BED, wasn't she? |
| Fettershackle |
| Monday November 06 12:36:09 2006 Re: Passions |
| obliv wrote:
> if it weren't for the stupid GAG ruining it! yeah, i > hate GAGS! they ruin all kinds of great scenes and shots > that would be perfect, with a beautiful BLINDFOLDED > damsel, but they throw the ineffective, most useless > piece of bondage paraphernalia there is, a GAG, on her. > why? who knows, since the GAG does absolutely niothing > except keep you from seeing her mouth... Now THAT's the crazy talk!!! (just kidding...sorta!) :-) As a bonifide gag fanatic I don't agree with that thinking but to each his (or her) own fetish. Obliv's point of view is no less valid than mine or other "gag snobs", and if blindfolds are his thing then.... However, I do agree with the comments on the blindfold/gag combination. I don't like that either. It hides the girl's entire face practically...all you see is cloth. Personally, I do not like blindfolds because I like seeing a girl's eyes, her expressions (fear, anxiety, frustration, etc.) over her gagged mouth, rather than her mouth over covered eyes. But then, I find a girl's eyes a very sexy part of her anatomy. But really, it IS probably better to say "I don't like blindfolds" or "gags do nothing for me personally" than to blurt out "blindfolds SUCK!" or "gags absolutely RUIN a good scene!", so as not to offend anyone who has a preference for one or the other (although I personally don't take offense when someone expresses their dislike, or hatred, for gags...but that's just ol' easy-going me!). Now, I know Tapey's idea is that on a show like Desperate Housewives, one of the ladies bound & gagged (or maybe bound & blindfolded!) would attract viewers. Maybe. But like someone else said, not everyone is a bondage lover, and I think that those that are usually think of, or prefer, bondage as part of a sexual situation (nudity, possibly some S/M stuff involved, etc.). The "mainstream bondage" community I think is a lot smaller than the general bondage community as a whole, and the fact is (in my opinion only, of course) I don't think primetime, fully-clothed, no nakedness or sex, just restraint-type bondage in a show would really increase viewership all that much (it didn't do much for quickly cancelled shows like Cobra, Raven, Once a Thief, She Spies, The Immortal, etc.) that had a fair amount of bondage but didn't last very long (I may not have picked absolutely correct shows for my example...some may have hung on several seasons, I just picked a few off the top of my head, but I'm sure you see my point...bondage-laden shows don't necessarily equal ratings. We've all seen & heard the "oh crap, this show is being cancelled already, and it gave lots of good scenes...too bad!"). Now, don't get me wrong...I'm sure there are lots of folks just like us who are into the mainstream bondage scene & just haven't made it here to our (oops! I mean...Brian's) page yet, but compared to the general population, it's pretty small. Again, I think most folks associate the idea of "bondage" with "kinky sex" and aren't too into a primetime show showing a tied up girl. And I could be wrong...just my opinion. My wife is very much into bondage, but as a sexual thing, and has absolutely NO IDEA why I tune in or record such inane shows as Passions, etc. just because some female is bound & gagged on it. And, like someone else said, the particular viewership for a show like Desperate Housewives, I don't think, would increase all that much if one of the ladies got tied up in it (except, or course, for all of us, who'd be waiting with anticipation for the show to start!). Sorry so long-winded, but when I'm on a roll.......... |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday November 06 13:26:11 2006 Mainstream bondage interest |
| Try this little experiment.
The next time you are at a mixed sex, vanilla, gathering, turn the TV on to a show that you know has a DID scene. No fanfare, jut have it on in the background before the scene airs. Then watch and see how many people either openly, or covertly, watch the DID scene. I have seen parties go almost deathly silent while the DID scene plays out, then almost immediately return to normal, with nary a word being said about the scene. |
| Jacot |
| Monday November 06 13:36:14 2006 Re: Passions |
| > Sorry so long-winded, but when I'm on a roll..........
The scroll-down function is often as handy as the fast-forward |
| Monday November 06 13:49:34 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| > And if "DH" isn't a soap opera, what is it?
I suppose it could be considered a kind of soap opera, however it isn't a daytime drama and it certainly doesn't involve the same melodrama, that inevitably caters to more frequent "damsel in distress" scenarios. > By the way, I don't think ratings for last season's > finale were hurt any by Marcia Cross being > "objectified for the male viewer" Eva Longoria is an extreme in and of herself. Look, what I'm trying to say is that the generally comedic, modern nature of the show just isn't as appetizing if you're looking for straight-edge DiD scenes. It's a long-shot away from the latest treasure trove of Crime Dramas that seem to produce scenes biweekly. No need to stuff my opinion back up my ass, pal. |
| X |
| Monday November 06 14:13:50 2006 The latin-video youtube |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkDJWp_KtY0&mode=related&search= |
| Cianco |
| Monday November 06 15:49:04 2006 Re: without a trace |
| > Last Nights 'Without a Trace' has a girl spread-eagled >to a bed, being "excercised" by a priest.
Scenes before the opening title, and another at around the half way point. Bound with medical restraints at the wrist and ankles, barefoot, wearing a short white nightie. Each hand was strapped to each headpost and the ankles were strapped with a short strap that was strapped to the foot of the bed. Screaming while struggling. |
| civ |
| Monday November 06 15:55:16 2006 Fall Guy |
| AOH B&G scene for Heather Thomashappened Season 1, episode 15.
Would Heather Locklear have the longest time before a B&G scene with TJ Hooker? We had to wait 'til the 4th season. |
| Zmed |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjpnCJ5JY4k |
| Monday November 06 16:15:36 2006 Re: Longest time for a series regular before a B&g scene |
| > Would Heather Locklear have the longest time before a B&G scene with TJ Hooker? We had to wait 'til the 4th season.
---- Not even close. E.g., Holly Marie Combs' first B&g scene on "Charmed" didn't occur till season 8, and Joan Collins' didn't have B&G scene during the long run of the "Dynasty" series -- it didn't pop until the Dynasty reunion TV-movie. There are likely several series regulars that others can think of whose B&g scene didn't occur till even later in a series' run. And that's excluding daytime soap operas, where an actress may work half her acting career. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday November 06 16:56:40 2006 Vanished |
| In the next VANISHED Friday, Nov. 10 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT), "The Cell," Senator Collins continues to cope with Sara's disappearance even as he reels from recent events, an emotionally drained Sara is seen in captivity (something about another person in a cell next to her and may be an ally)
FOX will go 13-and-out with its freshman drama "Vanished." The series will wrap its inaugural season on Friday, December 8 at 8:00/7:00c. FOX plans to wait and see how the series fares in its new Friday home before making the final decision about its future. |
| civil |
| Monday November 06 17:28:44 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| The point is: I have NEVER actually watched an episode of Desperate Housewives. There have been a few times when I recorded it and fast-forwarded through it when there was a possibility (however small) of a bondage scene, but I have never watched it. I could not care less about what happens to the characters on this show. Yet, ABC wants me to watch this show because they want EVERYONE to watch this show. They want advertisers to pay them lots of money for the privilege of having their ads on a successful primetime program. If not enough people are watching, the advertisers won't be interested. However, I won't watch this show until I know that either Eva Longoria or Teri Hatcher is going to get bound and gagged (I'm not even that interested in the other ladies.) It's that simple. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Monday November 06 17:43:45 2006 Re: Passions |
| obliv wrote:
> i am a fan of blindfolds. and this scene would be a > classic... > and everytime you badmouth blindfolds, it affects those of us who love them! I don't think anyone was badmouthing blindfolds; in fact, I think almost everyone here thinks blindfolds are hot, and can be a lot of fun. But if there is a blindfold as part of a hot scene, or part of a scene with a gag, it's an absolute drag and a downer if it never comes off and you never see the gag alone; as in the scene in question because there were plenty of shots of the blindfoold alone but not one of the gag alone. I think that's a valid complaint and doesn't necessarily denegrate blindfolds in my opinion. |
| Monday November 06 17:56:57 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| Tapemaster wrote:
> The point is: I have NEVER actually watched an episode of > Desperate Housewives. Me neither, it's a horrible show, low brow, repetitive, formulaic, un-sexy, no hot young women, safe, highly censored and prudish (the soaps are far kinkier). It pretends to be naughty and isn't; that's so lame! Just compare it to a show like Twin Peaks, which it isn't even smart enough to copy, but if you look deep actually owes allegiance to. > money for the privilege of having their ads on a > successful primetime program. Not sure it's so successful anymore; critics hate it. The first season was an example of the luckiest hype ever fallen into by a network show. There was no reason to ever like this show from day one... boring!!! I never thought it would produce a scene and wrote that on this board the week after it premiered. |
| Monday November 06 18:01:50 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| > happens to the characters on this show. Yet, ABC wants me
> to watch this show because they want EVERYONE to watch > this show. In the 18-49 age range |
| Monday November 06 18:06:33 2006 If it's true... cross your fingers |
| Read on comingsoon.net :
Lindsay Lohan's Next is Who Killed Me Source: Production Weekly November 6, 2006 Lindsay Lohan will make her next film Chris Sivertson's Who Killed Me, playing dual roles in the thriller penned by Jeff Hammond, reports Production Weekly. Lohan plays Aubrey, the young daughter of affluent parents who is abducted and mutilated by a sadistic serial killer. She manages to escape, sans a hand and a leg and lots of blood. The girl who regains consciousness in the hospital claims to be not Aubrey but Dakota -identical to Aubrey, but with a much different demeanor. Dakota struggles to convince anyone that she is not Aubrey and finds herself in a desperate race to save Aubrey's life and her own against overwhelming odds. The movie starts filming early next month in San Luis Obispo and Los Angeles. Email Story |
| Monday November 06 18:45:51 2006 Political image |
| Interesting add |
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| spudRus |
| Monday November 06 18:51:30 2006 Re: Blindfolds |
| > I don't think anyone was badmouthing blindfolds;
[ Lewis Black Mode ] I'LL badmouth blindfolds. I HATE 'em! And here's why: back when I was checking out Skinamax softcore movies for bondage imagery in the late 90s, I saw scene after scene after SCENE where blindfolds were clearly being used as a SUBSTITUTE for bondage. You want blindfolds? Check out Skinamax films, they're freakin' FULL of them! Invariably,if the Skinamax folks didn't tie the DUDE up instead of the woman, they put the woman in a BLINDFOLD instead of tying her up! I blame those stupid idiots Adrian Lyne and Zalman King for this state of affairs. They made that pathetic parody "9 1/2 Weeks," where they took a book in which it's stated that the woman was ALWAYS tied up whenever she and her lover were alone together, and turned into a moview where she was NEVER tied up, EVER! Oh, but there was a BLINDFOLD in "9 1/2 Weeks" all right, there was a FREAKING blindfold! Lyne and King didn't have the cojones to do the actual BONDAGE, so they SUBSTITUTED the freaking BLINDFOLD, and now EVERY half-assed Skinamax softcore scumbag director thinks THAT'S the way you do KINKY! [ / Lewis Black mode ] But I'm not bitter about it, oh no, mercy me. |
| Pat Powers |
| patpowers1995@yahoo.com |
| http://www.bondagerotica.com |
| Monday November 06 18:53:53 2006 Re: Political image |
| > Interesting add
Looks like |
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| Monday November 06 18:55:02 2006 Re: Political image |
| spudRus wrote:
> Interesting add [ innocent mode ] Oh, look, a political ad on Brian's Page. Is someone dying for a frank exchange of politicals views? |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday November 06 18:58:22 2006 Re: Cutter (2005) |
| > > Right away in the first 10 minutes, a female is kidnapped and bound to a bed with a tape gag.
> > > > Pacula does end up chair-bound but ungagged late in the movie. Norris saves the day and she's released in the final 10 minutes. It is POSSIBLE she received some type of handgag or gag during her abduction by the bad guys, but I missed that portion of it. ---- Hopefully, if someone caught the entire movie, they'll add it to the Scene Database (e.g., the name of the first DiD?). |
| Kinky-napper |
| Monday November 06 19:05:07 2006 Married with Children |
|
The classic Katey Sagal scene on Married with Children seems to be duplicated with a Spanish family.Their are caps and a video on Scythedid site.The actress is Lilian Caro and the title is Matrimonio con Hijos. |
| TSR |
| Monday November 06 19:13:43 2006 Re: The Unit |
| > Saw a preview for this show, young girl kidnapped by a
> cult. They show a clip of a girl with and over the mouth > white gag. Older than the one on NCIS? |
| Monday November 06 19:28:21 2006 Re: Passions |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> The scroll-down function is often as handy as the fast- > forward Yep. Especially for folks who aren't capable of reading blocks of text with more than 3 lines! A life-saver! Um, waitaminit...was that a slam? |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday November 06 19:33:41 2006 Re: Passions |
| > Yep. Especially for folks who aren't capable of reading
> blocks of text with more than 3 lines ...unless it describes a scene |
| Monday November 06 19:35:45 2006 Re: Political image |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> spudRus wrote: > > > Interesting add > > [ innocent mode ] > > Oh, look, a political ad on Brian's Page. Is someone > dying for a frank exchange of politicals views? Lighten up Pat....just a picture...save your frank exchange for the voting booth |
| spudRus |
| Monday November 06 19:38:30 2006 Re: Political image |
| > Oh, look, a political ad on Brian's Page. Is someone
> dying for a frank exchange of politicals views? Tomorrow's election is relevant here if the coverage pre-empts the primetime shows (like 'The Unit') |
| D Hastert |
| Monday November 06 19:55:21 2006 Adrienne Shelly |
| A quick update on this sad story from last week: a man in her building has confessed to her murder. Folks have been keeping her Wikipedia bio up to date as new details come in. |
| Raffish |
| Monday November 06 20:04:34 2006 Lifetime movie possible |
| "To Have and to Hold" stars Justine Bateman. I think she's in the line of fire from a woman who was given the boot after an affair with her husband. 9 to 11 tonight on Lifetime. |
| Monday November 06 20:13:32 2006 Re: Political image |
| Pat Powers wrote:
> Oh, look, a political ad on Brian's Page. Is someone > dying for a frank exchange of politicals views? Are you requesting it be deleted? |
| The Moderator |
| Monday November 06 20:14:53 2006 Re: Passions |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Yep. Especially for folks who aren't capable of > reading > > blocks of text with more than 3 lines > ...unless it describes a scene Oh, my bad...I thought I was on the "Discussion" page! You know, that's the page where many, many different facets of mainstream bondage & bondage topics are, well, "discussed", & not just scene descriptions. You'd think someone who has been here for the past...oh...9 years or so would know better! wait...I...I AM on the Discussion page! I just checked! So I guess it was okay. |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday November 06 20:16:00 2006 Re: Desperate Housewives |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Yet, ABC wants me > > to watch this show > In the 18-49 age range That's enough of this nonsense. We've been over this same dumb ground a zillion times. Anything further will be deleted. |
| The Moderator |
| Monday November 06 20:21:00 2006 today's Passions |
| um...sorry to break up this witty reparte (hey JP, don't you just love folks who slam posts and naturally sign anonomously?) but i was wondering if anyone had any news on today's episode of Passions? i forgot about it being on and didn't record it.
i assume nothing noteworthy happened since no one has mentioned it but thought i'd ask anyway. speaking of JP...hey man thanks for the head's up on the deleted scene in Brothers Grimm. i just rented it and that is a nice scene, they should have kept that one and deleted the one they DID use! thanks, RR |
| rob-roy |
| Monday November 06 20:37:25 2006 Re: today's Passions |
| rob-roy wrote:
> um...sorry to break up this witty reparte (hey JP, don't > you just love folks who slam posts and naturally sign > anonomously?) but i was wondering if anyone had any news > on today's episode of Passions? i forgot about it being > on and didn't record it. You missed nothing whatsoever except for interminable footage of Fancy lying there unconscious, while the two bad guys tried to figure out how to get down to her, which...I guess maybe the building doesn't have stairs or something...it wasn't as though I was masochistic enough to listen to the dialogue. |
| Raffish |
| Monday November 06 20:49:27 2006 Re: today's Passions |
| rob-roy wrote:
>...i was wondering if anyone had any news > on today's episode of Passions? i forgot about it being > on and didn't record it. > speaking of JP...hey man thanks for the head's up on the > deleted scene in Brothers Grimm. i just rented it and > that is a nice scene, they should have kept that one and > deleted the one they DID use! No problem RR. And nothing on Passions. Apparently the girl has fallen down into a hole in the floor & is lying there unconscious & the 2 bad guys are looking down at her worried. Scene looks over ( but you never can tell!) However, preview's for next week's Prison Break showed a young woman who appeared to be tied to a chair & being interrogated (before being dunked under water a'la Smallville. Tonite's episode ended with her leaving her car & a guy accosts her with a gun, so he obviously has grabbed her & taken her somewhere (hopefully tied & gagged). |
| JP |
| japfeif@aol.com |
| Monday November 06 22:17:26 2006 Re: Political image |
| The Moderator wrote:
> Are you requesting it be deleted? Nahhhh. Just asking if anyone was in the mood for a frank exchange of political views. |
| Pat Powers |
| Monday November 06 22:35:15 2006 WWE Raw |
| Mickie James just wrestled a match with 1 arm tied behind her back. |
| Jason |
| Monday November 06 22:35:39 2006 DAMSELS UNDER GLASS is Updated! |
| Good evening Brian'skteers! Chapter 3 of "Jackie Silberston -in- Helpless in Seattle" is posted to DAMSELS UNDER GLASS. Enjoy! |
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| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.lovetied.com/dug/ |
| Monday November 06 22:54:30 2006 Update |
| Bat Masterson & various other sundry amusements
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| Stephanie |
| stepahie@majorjohns.com |
| http://www.majorjohns.com |
| Monday November 06 23:59:25 2006 More on blindfolds |
| I'm intending the following not to be incendiary. I actually like blindfolds AND gags, separately or in combination. And I suppose I agree with the comment that if you're gonna take out the gag and leave the blindfold, then at least switch around and give the gag equal time. Eyes over a gag are fun, aren't they.
But here's my little addition to the discussion: In many real abduction scenarios, blindfolds would be absolutely necessary--and continuously so--unless the perpetrator either intends to terminate the existence of the victim or is willing to significantly increase the risk of identification and arrest. So mainstream bondage scenarios in the media ought to reflect that fact. Do they? I'd argue they don't. They go for the gag almost every time--with the victim being silenced by it. Silenced! Jeez. Everyone knows that a gag won't eliminate screams if the victim wants to scream. Muffle, sure. Garble, yep. Decrease the decibel level, absolutely. But silence? No way. So the movie/TV scenes that emphasize gags for the viewer are doing it because there's something going on with the viewer. And we all know what that is, don't we, guys? Consider, on the other hand, a well-applied blindfold. Does it do its job completely? You betcha. Is it as sexy as a gag. Well, apparently not (judging from previous commentary). And that's why you don't see them on tV as often as they're used in real life in the equivalent situations. But I don't believe it's a given that blindfolds can't be sexy. I'm not at all a fan of "Passions." Never watch it. Never watch any other soaps, either. But that doesn't mean the B&G scenes aren't fun. And this one wasn't really that bad. The only really unrealistic part was that the DiD never got molested. But of course, it's TV, so DUH! I suspect this is also why "9 1/2" weeks really, really pissed us all off. Not because there was a blindfold used, but because it was used symbolically for the rest of the bondage, as has been argued already. Imagine Kim Basinger bound and blindfolded, in scenese truer to the plot lines of the book. I mean, wow! Just for a weird spin on this, consider why the movie "Blind Witness" is so powerful, and why the gagged Victoria Principal is so evocative. Yes, there's the wrap-around gag that has her cheeks bulging. But, also, she can't see. Her blindness is nature's blindfold, and her assailants take full advantage of it. There's no question, at least in my mind, that this film, and her role, would have been significantly compromised if her character had been written as sighted but not blindfolded. Personally, I find this 'blindfold vs. gag' discussion to be potentially one of the best threads I've seen on the Forum--if we take it seriously but not fanatically. |
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