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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Sunday September 03 00:45:32 2006 End of DID as we know it |
| Danil, I appreciate you responding to some of the points I made about TV producers. I still don't really agree with you on most of what you say, but I guess we probably never will agree. You did say something that confused me. You state that if we don't like all the crappy TV shows we should boycott the products that advertise on those programs.
How exactly would that be done? First if most programs are crappy, wouldn't you be boycotting a lot of products? Since there are supposedly so many crappy shows, wouldn't you possibly be boycotting every product that advertises on TV? What if a product advertises on a show that's good, but also on one that's bad? Do we give that product a pass or do we boycott it too? What does your boycott hope to achieve? Do you think that your not buying a certain product really has any effect whatsoever? Say you could convince everyone of your friends and all of their friends to boycott the same products as you do. Assuming that number would be less than 5,000 or 10,000 would it still make any difference in that advertiser's bottom line? Is your suggestion realistic or is it really just a personal boycott meant to satisfy yourself, but really achieves nothing in solving the problem of crappy programs? |
| Sunday September 03 01:06:31 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
>Do you think that your not buying a > certain product really has any effect whatsoever? Say you > could convince everyone of your friends and all of their > friends to boycott the same products as you do. Assuming > that number would be less than 5,000 or 10,000 would it > still make any difference in that advertiser's bottom > line? Is your suggestion realistic or is it really just a > personal boycott meant to satisfy yourself, but really > achieves nothing in solving the problem of crappy programs? Now I know that you didn't come of age in the '60s, or you would have been able to answer the question easily. Yes, boycotts work. Yes, they take incredible effort. No, it's not the actual first-order effect of loss of revenue that does it. It's the second and third order effect of the bad PR being heard and seen by the populace at large. You can make a difference. As Arlo Guthrie said (and don't tell me you don't know who that is): "If three people do it, they may think it's an organization. And if twenty people did it every day, they may think it's a movement...." And they'd be right. Has the current generation lost the knowledge of how to organize? Anyway, this is now getting way off topic, so if you'd like to continue this discussion let's take it off line and go via email or something. But now let's bring it back to the interest of this Forum. If there are enough people here who are tired of all the seriously weird and bloody anti-woman fantasies being worked through on TV and in movies these days, then don't watch them, and don't buy the products of their sponsors. Spend your money on "distress" efforts instead. That's at least a place to start. Consider donating some personal time or money to a rape crisis center, or volunteering to make sure that anti-abortion picketers don't commit violence against women who've decided to seek support therein. Ya wanna change the system, ya gotta stand up and be counted. Ya gotta put yourself on the line and be counted. Otherwise, ya gotta stop complaining. |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Sunday September 03 01:07:26 2006 Re: Passions Scene |
| Jay L wrote:
> Believe this what you after Thank you, Jay L. This was a nice gesture. DS |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Sunday September 03 06:30:48 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it? |
| > Nobody is forcing us to watch any of the channels on TV, or go to any of the films, or buy any DVDs. We can vote on what's crappy and what's not by choosing to spend our bucks where we want them to count.
---- Agreed -- I've noted that point at Brian's Page before. Supporting "our hobby" does NOT mean surfing the web, and downloading as many caps + vidclips at free sites that one can. If you MUST have your damsels B&g'd and/or dressed to certain specifications, then BUY membership(s) at a commercial bondage website that appeals to just that audience. And when a mainstream movie or TV show is produced that has a number of the type of DID scenes that *You* like, then support it -- FINANCIALLY. E.g., more than a month ago, "Perils of Gwendoline" was re-released onto DVD, and September 26th is the schedule DVD-release date for "The Notorious Bettie Page". Buying, or at least renting such DVDs provides a much more important message than kvetching on a damsel-in-distress website. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday September 03 11:01:11 2006 End of DID as we know it |
| I do agree wholeheartly with Kinky-napper. Just the other day some guy was on Raffish's back because he didn't like the free clips Raffish was offering. How much do you want to bet that the guy who was complaining has never signed up to Raffish's pay site? So MANY people believe that they should get everything for free. Of course, that's not a good long term strategy if you want bondage sites to survive.
As for boycotts, how about if everyone boycotts Visa. Cut up your Visa card and use only Mastercard. The reason being that from everything I've heard Visa is systematically trying to get rid of all bondage sites by cutting off their ability to process. So far, they've been successful. I know that if you are just starting a bondage pay site it is impossible to get merchant processing. You have to go overseas and overseas won't deal with you unless you are generating substancial amounts of money. Thus, you are screwed and for doing something that is completely legal. |
| Sunday September 03 11:08:12 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| (unsigned poster) wrote:
I do agree wholeheartly with Kinky-napper... So MANY people believe that they should get everything for free ... As for boycotts, how about if everyone boycotts Visa ... is systematically trying to get rid of all bondage sites by cutting off their ability to process. So far, they've ... _________________________________________________________ I try to keep my website afloat by using small JPGs, the cheapest domain/webspace provider & not using anything fancy (PHP, ASP, JSP, FLASH, etc). I only ask for small donations or orders to help out. I only have a Mastercard, I use to have 2 or 4 Visas. I agree that this might be the only way to fight back. Also, I have been updating my LINKs webpage, again, so let me know of any changes or additions. |
| Rich |
| bindherupx@yahoo.com |
| http://bindherupx.net/links.htm |
| Sunday September 03 11:38:46 2006 Interesting Youtube post |
| The poster didn't know where this is from, neither do I, but it does appear to be mainstream and features four women with what appear to be very thick cleave gags made out of DUCT TAPE. |
| Jacot |
| http://youtube.com/watch?v=j22NgaKO7xY |
| Sunday September 03 12:16:28 2006 Re: Newsfactor magazine Sept. issue |
| DH wrote:
> For you blindfold fans. > Noticed a magazine called Newsfactor in the business > section at my local Borders books. > Cover features a headshot of a young woman blindfolded. > The blindfold is a black scarf Link to the pic http://images.newsfactor.com/images/05/SEPT06-NEWSFACTOR-300x390.jpg |
| Venda |
| venda27@hotmail.com |
| Sunday September 03 12:38:31 2006 FYI: Not My Life |
| Just saw preview for this movie premiering tonight. Showed at least a couple of chloro scenes. Here's to hoping for much more. |
| tied up girl |
| Sunday September 03 12:42:09 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| Rich wrote:
> I try to keep my website afloat by using small JPGs, > the cheapest domain/webspace provider & not using > anything fancy (PHP, ASP, JSP, FLASH, etc). > I only ask for small donations or orders to help out. > > I only have a Mastercard, I use to have 2 or 4 Visas. > I agree that this might be the only way to fight back. This, to me, is a much more productive discussion than complaining about poor screenwriting taking over the bondage world. Absolutely, it's time to boycott VISA. Economic sanctions can be very powerful. It comes down to organizing, and it takes time and effort but it's possible to do. "Organizing" has been a red flag word to political conservatives since the rise of labor unions, the civil rights movement, and the student antiwar movement of the 1960s. Interesting, since the radical right has used all the same tactics--and more recently developed ones, too, god bless 'em--to accomplish their own political and social agendas. Which includes eliminating bondage websites of all stripes from the face of the earth, BTW. I was worried that by raising the financial factor in this Forum, I'd be hooted off. But it's heartening to see that you and Kinky-napper (and as far as I know countless other lurkers) recognize that this is the central issue. Alas, it always comes doen to control of resources, don't it? I admire and respect most of the entrepreneurial efforts I've seen that have been launched by website owners who bring us bondage entertainment. I might not like their products, or their way of presenting, or their politics as expressed on their rant pages, but then I'm free to avoid those sites, aren't I? More power to Brian's Page and to all those intrepid navigators of the vagaries of the www who we rely on, and who form the "glue" of our little community. You know who you are. Thank you. I try to pay when I can! Dannysuling |
| Dannysuling |
| dannysuling@yahoo.com |
| Sunday September 03 12:44:41 2006 Not My Life |
| Oooooops! Forgot to say that the movie is on Lifetime tonight at 8:00pm EST
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| tied up girl |
| Sunday September 03 12:46:33 2006 Re: Interesting Youtube post |
| features four women with what appear to be very thick cleave gags made
out of DUCT TAPE. it's from a direct to video feature "Die delta Die" |
| kramer |
| Sunday September 03 12:49:47 2006 Re: Interesting Youtube post |
| Jacot wrote:
> The poster didn't know where this is from, neither do I, > but it does appear to be mainstream and features four > women with what appear to be very thick cleave gags made > out of DUCT TAPE. http://youtube.com/watch?v=j22NgaKO7xY ========= Appears that Julie Strain, so favouring Record number: 8931 Title: Delta Delta Die! (2003) Medium: Movie Actress: Tiffany Shepis, Lizzy Strain, Jennifer L. Johnson, Rachel Myers Description: In this movie about a cannabalistic sorority house, Julie Strain and her four minions are eating every hapless guy that comes around. So major guy alert. But, about 3/4 of the way through it, Brinke Stevens starts to get her revenge on the co-eds. She captures each of the 4 seperately and they all end up tied to chairs, hands behind, with gags that are a mixture of tape and cleaves. During Brinke and Julie's fight, each girl,in turn, is shown in a close up. Pretty good scene, if I may say so. (Note from another contributor: yep, it really is, and the director has the good sense to keep the damsels and the guys in separate shots, so that a bit of editing will give you 45 seconds or so of top-notch damsel viewing without the pesky interference.) |
| Jay L |
| http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349343/ |
| Sunday September 03 13:09:59 2006 Poser 5 free download |
| Just a FYI to all, you can download Poser5 for free at the link in this post. I understand there's many bondage poses and accessories (i.e. rope, cuffs, etc) add-ons available too. |
| Kerhop |
| http://www.contentparadise.com/us/user/free_poser_5_english_full_version_product_21989 |
| Sunday September 03 13:41:01 2006 Re: End of DID as we know it |
| Dannysuling wrote:
> a red flag word to political conservatives > the radical right Let's keep politics out of the discussion. If this topic, which I've allowed a lot of leeway, can't proceed without it then it's time for it to end. Anything further, either in response to the referenced post or new will be deleted and the thread closed. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday September 03 16:44:30 2006 Knotbuster's Update |
| Just wanted to let everybody know that Knotbusters has been updated with new vidcaps (Blade: The Series & Ekis), the final chapter of my teen sleuth story, and two new Poser pictures.
Enjoy. |
| Doug R |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/knotbusters/index.html |
| Sunday September 03 17:32:48 2006 brittany daniel |
| What ever happened to the movie with Brittany Daniels tied up and gagged? I havn't heard anyone talk about it but if you remember the trailer had a scene where she was kidnapped and left tied up in some house. Does anyone know or recognize what I'm talking about, because I havn't heard it mentioned hear again since it was discussed about 3 months ago. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! |
| Silencer |
| Sunday September 03 18:22:14 2006 Re: brittany daniel |
| Silencer wrote:
> What ever happened to the movie with Brittany Daniels > tied up and gagged? The movie in question, I believe, is The Hamiltons. I attached a link to the official site. No release date inoformation. I imagine that it will eventually make its way to dvd. |
| Cohen |
| http://www.sffilms.tv/thehamiltons/ |
| Sunday September 03 18:24:19 2006 Re: brittany daniel |
| Silencer wrote:
> What ever happened to the movie with Brittany Daniels > tied up and gagged? I havn't heard anyone talk about it > but if you remember the trailer had a scene where she was > kidnapped and left tied up in some house. Does anyone > know or recognize what I'm talking about, because I > havn't heard it mentioned hear again since it was > discussed about 3 months ago. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! I think the film you are referring to is called "THe Hamiltons". I know because i was looking into it myself just last week. According to IMDB it was shown at some festival or other but has to date not recieved a distribution deal. In other words it's sitting on a shelf unseen while S***e like Jackass 2 gets released internationally. |
| moxx of balhoom |
| Sunday September 03 19:13:05 2006 Audiobook bondage? |
| Our mutual acquaintance who has spent the summer getting to know and love the video iPod would like everyone to know that its rapidly filling hard drive is now home to all the 1940s Max Fleischer "Superman" cartoons with scenes save for one (which the database dismissed as a GNB) thanks to a plethora of classic cartoon-loving Webmasters out there, and although there aren't any live-action scenes keeping Lois Lane company yet, the technique for accomplishing this trick is now a proven concept. Thanks to whomever it was here who pointed us in the right direction.
Anyway, about audiobooks. The 'Pod (gee, do you think Apple has copyrighted that phrase yet?) is apparently a favorite means of accessing this medium, and one's fancy naturally turns around here to whether there might be content of (ahem, ahem) particular interest to us. So, how about it? Does anyone out there-especially anyone who favors hearing actresses "talking about it," a subject that has popped up here more than once-also favor listening to written scene descriptions from novels rather than actually reading them? If so, any current titles out in audio you'd care to recommend? And what makes a spoken-word description of a scene, in your view? Better if a female voice reads it? I'm guessing that which you'd get would depend on whether it's a first-person or third-person story, and on the protagonist's gender. One would imagine that a woman would be hired to read "Nightmare," the novel on which "Die! Die! My Darling!" was based (come to think of it, there's a project for Stefanie Powers to busy herself with these days!) even though it's told in the third person. And if by divine providence any of the classic Nancy Drew novels are out on audio, it'd be inconceivable they'd be rendered by a male voice. Incidentally, don't worry about formats. We know about the public library/WMA/iPod issue and various methods for (ahem, ahem) dealing with it (some of you may have heard of a recent development in that regard which has essentially made it no longer an issue, but I won't risk a jackboot to the keister by straying any closer to the boundaries of topicality; Google is your friend if you want to know more). Let's instead stick with titles and scene descriptions, and who's doing the reading if you know. |
| Fettershackle |
| Sunday September 03 19:45:34 2006 Re: Audiobook bondage |
| > Let's instead stick with titles and scene descriptions, and who's doing the reading if you know.
---- In the pre-iPod era, I'd noted the "Sleeping Beauty" erotic S&M trilogy by A.N. Roquelaure (aka, an Anne Rice pseudonym), and its audio cassette versions: The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty (abridged - 1993), read by Amy Brenneman. Beauty's Punishment (abridged - 1993), read by Anne Rice. Beauty's Release (abridged - 1994), read by Elizabeth Montgomery. Of course, the book versions (which is the one I own) make it easier for readers who prefer to skip over the F/m & M/m chapters, and just read the M/f & F/f chapters. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Sunday September 03 20:02:39 2006 Re: Interesting Youtube post |
| Jay L wrote:
> Record number: 8931 > > Title: Delta Delta Die! (2003) > Medium: Movie > Actress: Tiffany Shepis, Lizzy Strain, Jennifer L. > Johnson, Rachel Myers > Thanks guys. I think that I might actually have seen it :-) |
| Jacot |
| Sunday September 03 20:08:31 2006 Re: Audiobook bondage |
| Kinky-napper wrote:
> In the pre-iPod era, I'd noted the "Sleeping > Beauty" erotic S&M trilogy by A.N. Roquelaure > (aka, an Anne Rice pseudonym), and its audio cassette > versions: > > The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty (abridged - 1993), read > by Amy Brenneman. > Beauty's Punishment (abridged - 1993), read by Anne > Rice. > Beauty's Release (abridged - 1994), read by Elizabeth > Montgomery. Hmmm...the author herself and two actresses with database scenes. Intriguing. > > Of course, the book version (which is the one I own) > make(s) it easier for readers who prefer to skip over the > F/m & M/m chapters, and just read the M/f & F/f chapters. Not a problem with a 'Pod, once you know where they are. By the way, are they just out on cassette? Bummer if they are; ever try digitizing any of those suckers? And any idea how much of Rice's (ahem, ahem) "vision," let us say, disappeared with the abridgement? I only read part of the first novel, but if it was any indication of what the others were like, I have a bit of a hard time imagining the late and much-missed Montgomery reciting the freaky parts verbatim. Oh, and thanks for the response. |
| Fettershackle |
| Sunday September 03 23:10:47 2006 Re: FYI: Not My Life |
| tied up girl wrote:
> Just saw preview for this movie premiering tonight. > Showed at least a couple of chloro scenes. Here's to > hoping for much more. And was there much more? |
| Eric |
| Sunday September 03 23:31:32 2006 Re: FYI: Not My Life |
| Eric wrote:
> tied up girl wrote: > > > Just saw preview for this movie premiering tonight. > > > Showed at least a couple of chloro scenes. Here's > to > > hoping for much more. > > And was there much more? Yes, including a full treatment scene. ~Spoiler alert~ for anyone who actually watches Lifetime films instead of occasionally glancing at them on mute while taping like I do. The two chloro scenes which tied up girl (nice moniker, BTW, and thanks for the alert!) described happen in tandem sometime during the second hour, possibly around 1:20 but don't quote me. The husband in the film kidnapped his wife a while back with chloroform in her car. She's been drugged and brainwashed since that time to forget her previous husband, and just as the original flashback starts to flood back in her memory following some investigative work, he hits her with chloroform again. When she awakens in a remote cabin, she is ungagged and chair bound with duct tape, but immediately has flashbacks to when she was being brainwashed. She is gagged in a few briefs shots, having gotten the full treatment during her treatment, so to speak. She is eventually freed by a cop or a neighbor or something, and after the rescuer pays with his life, the woman kills the guy with a pitchfork. I'll just add that I missed the first five minutes, so it's possible that she had a flashback during the opening scenes, but I can't say for sure. |
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