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Saturday January 10 02:19:32 2009
Message to people in the TV industry
This post was deleted.

Poster: Tapemaster
Reason: Off-topic. I can do this for a while. Then I'll stop, because it won't be necessary anymore.
The Moderator
Saturday January 10 03:05:27 2009
Re: Message to people in the TV industry
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was deleted.
> Poster: Tapemaster
> Reason: Off-topic.

Really? How so? I talked about a scene that happened tonight on mainstream television. I described the situation, the bondage, the gag, the blindfold, how long the scene lasted, and that I thought the scene was disappointing. I can't think of a way that I could have made it more ON-topic.

> I can do this for a while. Then
> I'll stop, because it won't be necessary anymore.

Just to let you know, from now on, every message of mine that you delete will be posted on Pofoz's page.

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Tapemaster
Saturday January 10 03:09:00 2009
Re: Message to people in the TV industry
Tapemaster wrote:

> To read what our moderator does not want you to read on
> his site, simply click on the link below:

Here it is in link form:


Tapemaster
http://www.pofoz.com/did/forum/index.html
Saturday January 10 06:05:44 2009
Tape's lost it again.
...and in other news, the sun is hot, water is damp and the economy is stuffed.
C
Saturday January 10 09:37:15 2009
Another Treat for Comic Fans!!!
Huntress seems to get bound and gagge a lot! Maybe she's into that.....

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k309/prgram/arch_6-2008/Nightwing26-27_1Custom.jpg
Danny
Saturday January 10 10:53:55 2009
Fear Is Real vs. Fatal Impact
Well, I taped the scene with the collar bomb from Fatal Impact or Impact Point or whatever the hell it is called, and I feel pretty good about that -- it's very much a paint-by-numbers standard SWAT team cop drama, and I doubt it'll last more than a season, if it lasts that long.

But I was wondering what the scene(s) on Fear Is Real were like and if it looks likely to last more than a season. Anyone know?
Pat Powers
Saturday January 10 11:02:06 2009
Maggie Q
I watched the brief scene with Maggie Q in that computer game,Need for Speed,Undercover.Just found it slightly disappointing,she didn't even look scared.It would have been far better,if she'd been gagged.Still,Maggie was tied up.I just wish it could have been done a bit more better.
David
Saturday January 10 11:22:11 2009
Re: Fear Is Real vs. Fatal Impact
Pat Powers wrote:

> I was wondering what the scene(s) on Fear Is Real
> were like


Hang on there Pat
I'll contribute some caps and such, as this show just begging to be snarked on at your site. ;)
Jay L
Saturday January 10 11:23:37 2009
Red Alert 3
There are some gorgeous women acting out miltary roles,in this game.Perhaps I may have better luck here! My favourite is the beautiful Japanese lady.Here's hoping! Sometimes,there's better damsel in distress scenes in computer games,than in the films.
David
Saturday January 10 12:08:18 2009
FLASHPOINT
Pat Powers wrote:

> Well, I taped the scene with the collar bomb from Fatal
> Impact or Impact Point or whatever the hell it is called,

That's "FLASHPOINT" and I'm sure CBS is counting on it to be the next big thing. They are already planning on a wave of "Flashpoint" spinoffs: FLASHPOINT: Miami, FLASHPOINT: New York, FLASHPOINT: Los Angeles, FLASHPOINT: Toledo, FLASHPOINT: Wichita, FLASHPOINT: Grand Rapids...

> and I feel pretty good about that -- it's very much a
> paint-by-numbers standard SWAT team cop drama, and I
> doubt it'll last more than a season, if it lasts that
> long.

There simply aren't that many different SWAT team situations, so I can't imagine the show lasting too long. Most SWAT team situations seem to revolve around people being in immediate danger, such as hostage situations. That means there is a good possibility for bondage scenes. However, just because someone is a hostage does not mean that the person will be in bondage. Next week's episodes of "Flashpoint" and "Numbers" both have hostage situations, but there was no evidence of bondage in the previews.

"Flashpoint" could be a gold mine for bondage scenes or a tremendous disappointment. We shall see.


Tapemaster
Saturday January 10 12:28:11 2009
Re: Another Treat for Comic Fans!!!
In my collection is 'The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones" issue #14 which has a couple panels of a woman sitting on a bed, bound and gagged with a white otm. Likewise Doc Savage #1 (The giant magazine sized -B&W) also had a lady hands tied behind back & OTM gagged for a few panels. DNAgents: #19 had one of the heroines tied to a tree & otm gagged for one panel. I'd scan 'n post them but cant upload pics from your pc sadly. At least some info for the comics collectors! Here is one postable image since I just found it on the web--
Daredevil issue #205 cover:
http://www.manwithoutfear.com/issues/c.pl?dd205_jpg
S.M.
http://images4sale.com/store/24021
Saturday January 10 12:47:16 2009
Sanctuary?
Hey I just read a post from a few days ago that this show Sanctuary might produce a scene, someone gets captured or something. It aired last nite, I didn't get to watch it...did anything happen or did anyone watch it? I assume nothing since no none has mentioned it but thought I'd check anyway!
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Saturday January 10 13:50:31 2009
Re: Sanctuary?

Scanned it. Nothing of interest.
KEVIN
Saturday January 10 13:56:41 2009
While we pause to contemplate...
... the wrenching challenges and unprecedented changes wrought by the year just past, let us also take a moment to commemorate the passing in 2008 of twenty actresses with scenes in our database, along with many other creative individuals whose efforts also contributed to that repository, as well as one or two persons in the peripheral category of those whose life experiences spawned stories that produced database entries.

It should, of course, be beyond argument that the most courageous and noteworthy person in the second category-and perhaps the third as well-was Bettie Page, who passed away December 11 at age 85. One shudders to imagine how many more years it would have taken for the subject of our interest to reach its current level of acceptance had she not had the boldness to work with Irving Klaw, or the fortitude to defend the fruits of their collaboration against its critics-including Congress. The many tributes offered here at her passing were all well-deserved. It could be argued, perhaps, that Page deserves a place in the Hall of Fame despite not herself being in the database.

As for actresses in the database, Lois Nettleton, tied up in the 1967 TV-movie "Valley of Mystery," died January 18 at age 80.

Despite her decades of stardom, Suzanne Pleshette left us only two TV-series scenes-in a 1961 "Hong Kong" episode and a 1967 episode of "Cimarron Strip"-when she passed away January 19 at 70.

Tamara Desni ("Dick Barton at Bay," 1950) was 94 when she died February 7

Hazel Court's unusual repertoire consisted of two scenes nearly two decades apart-"Dreaming" from 1944 and Roger Corman's "The Premature Burial" from 1962. She passed away April 15 at 82.

Julie Ege, tied up in "Creatures the World Forgot" in 1971, died April 29 at 64.

The database gives Beverlee McKinsey, who was 72 when she passed away May 2, a possible credit for a scene in an unknown episode of the soap "The Guiding Light."

Dorothy Green, credited with being bound in a 1958 episode of TV's "Suspicion," died May 8 at age 88.

The delectable Cyd Charisse, who passed away June 17 at 86, was another actress about whom many will scratch their heads and say, "What, you mean she only got it once?" Yes, she did, according to the database-in 1958's "Party Girl." Well, when you consider that given her other talent besides acting, her filmology-particularly during her younger years-would necessarily be dominated by musicals, a single scene ought not be surprising. And perhaps I shouldn't mention this, but Charisse also has a certain personal significance for me. She was one of only two actresses with scenes in the database that I ever saw perform live-in a summer-stock production of the Broadway musical "Damn Yankees" in which she played Lola nearly four decades ago. Never mind that she was nearly fifty-not only did she not look it, but that gal could DANCE! (Just for the record, the other database damsel I saw live was Barbara Eden, as the title character in "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" maybe a couple of years later.)

Veteran funny lady Dody Goodman didn't manage to get it, according to the database, until 1985, in "Private Resort." She was 93 when she died June 22.

Lilyan Chauvin ("Universal Soldier," 1992) died June 26 at 82.

Perhaps it was fitting that everyone's favorite cast member of TV's "The Golden Girls"-Estelle Getty-got the full treatment in the series' only scene, in a 1990 episode. Getty was 84 when she passed away July 22.

Eva Pflug, whose scene was in the German film "Der Frosch mit der Maske" from 1959, died August 5 at age 79.

Roberta Collins was busy in 1971, what with scenes in two of that year's women-in-prison exploitation classics-"The Big Doll House" and "Women in Cages." She was 63 when she died August 16.

Betty Carr, a veteran of the ensemble scene in 1954's "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers," passed away August 31 at 79.

Edie Adams' three scenes-in an episode of her husband Ernie Kovacs' show, the 1963 Bob Hope movie "Call Me Bwana" and a 1979 episode of "A Man Called Sloane" that the IMDb didn't even credit her for (although a user's comment on the site confirms her having been in the cast)-would perhaps seem paltry for an actress of her stature, until one remembers that owing to her voice, she was just as busy on Broadway during what would have been her scene-rich years as she was in front of television or movie cameras, save, of course, for those unforgettable White Owl cigar commercials. Come on, baby boomers-what was that sultry tag line (one so appropriate for the mid-1960s, in retrospect) she always delivered in those ads? Adams died October 15 at age 81.

Maria Elena Marques, tied up in "Ambush at Tomahawk Gap" in 1953, passed away November 11 at 83.

Beverly Garland, who died December 5 at 82, deserves note for more than just her three scenes-in 1957's "Naked Paradise," a 1973 "Cannon" episode and a 1997 installment of "Lois and Clark." She also played the mothers of characters portrayed by Hall of Famers Kate ("Scarecrow and Mrs. King") Jackson and Teri ("Lois and Clark") Hatcher, as well as Stephanie ("Remington Steele") Zimbalist.

Nina Foch's single database scene was for "Escape in the Fog" in 1945. It's likely, however, that she contributed to many others through her years of work as an acting teacher after the spotlight faded. Foch was 84 when she passed away December 5.

I wonder how many of you who aren't absolute "Star Trek" fanatics know that Gene Roddenberry's widow Majel Barrett, who died December 18 at 76, played a commander in the original unsold pilot for the series. Given the sensitivities of the time, it's not surprising that it went unsold, but it's perhaps tantalizing to contemplate whether she'd have more scenes to her credit than her single one in a 1997 episode of "Earth: Final Conflict" if one of the networks HAD picked up that pilot. One also can't help wondering if our best memory of her would still revolve around that miniskirt and those boots.

Finally, B-movie maven Ann Savage ("Scared Stiff," 1945) passed away Christmas Day at 87.

One actress not in the database certainly deserves mention here-Eartha Kitt, who died Christmas Day at 81 and who was plainly and simply the best Catwoman despite Julie Newmar's trying so hard. It was Kitt, remember, who tied up Yvonne Craig in both her captured-by-Catwoman scenes. And if anyone can resolve the question of whether Kitt actually has a scene of her own in another show, its being added to the database, if appropriate, would serve as a nice remembrance. (It also would be helpful if a verifiable date for any such scene could be obtained, as Kitt might well have been the first black actress to get it on U. S. TV if she did it before Leslie Uggams.)

And since the passing of Patricia Marand on Thanksgiving Day at 74 was noted here at the time, I'll go ahead and mention it again, even though she isn't in the database, and despite no one here apparently knowing whether or not she got it on Broadway every night during her 1966 Tony Award-nominated run as Lois Lane in the musical "It's a Bird...It's a Plane...It's Superman." Perhaps the show could be revived at some point and end up on the big screen. Hey, you never know.

Of the actors who died this year whose filmologies produced numerous scenes, the most prominent were Paul Newman ("The Silver Chalice," 1954, Pier Angeli and Virginia Mayo; "Harper," 1966, Julie Harris; "Hombre," 1967, Barbara Rush, and "The Drowning Pool," 1975, Gail Stickland), who was 83 when he died September 26, Charlton Heston ("The Ten Commandments," 1956, with Debra Paget and an unidentified actress, and "Mother Lode," 1982, Kim Basinger), who died April 5 at 84, and Richard Widmark, whose specialty as a veteran "heavy" was clearly reflected by his casting in seven titles with scenes-"No Way Out" from 1950 with a Linda Darnell handgag; "Don't Bother To Knock," 1952, Donna Corcoran; "Saint Joan," 1957, Jean Seberg; "The Long Ships," 1963, Beba Loncar; the 1973 TV-movie "Brock's Last Case" with Beth Brickell; 1974's "Murder on the Orient Express" with the infamous "was it Ingrid Bergman or a stunt double?" chair-tie scene; and perhaps Nastassja Kinski's earliest scene in "To the Devil a Daughter" from 1976. Widmark was 93 when he passed away March 24.

Also passing away in 2008 were actor Barry Morse, the original Lieutenant Gerard who pursued David Janssen's Richard Kimble in the 1960s TV series "The Fugitive," which produced a couple of scenes, on February 2 at 89, and pioneering black actor-director Ivan Dixon, perhaps best remembered here as a cast member of "Hogan's Heroes," with two scenes, and of a "Man from U.N.C.L.E." episode that produced another. Dixon, who died March 16 at 76, also should be noted for having DIRECTED three television series episodes in the database-"The Greatest American Hero: The Price is Right" (Heather Lowe), "The Rockford Files: Just a Coupla Guys" (Lisa Donaldson) and "Nichols: Zachariah" (Margot Kidder).

In addition John Phillip Law, who appeared along with database damsels Doro Merande and Tessie O'Shea in "The Russians are Coming, the Russians are Coming" in 1966, and in "Barbarella" with Jane Fonda a couple of years later, as well as adding his voice to a 1997 episode of the animated "Spider-Man" series that contained a scene, passed away May 14 at 70; Harvey Korman, Madeleine Kahn's tormentor (or was it the other way around?) in 1974's "Blazing Saddles," as well as a regular on "The Carol Burnett Show," which produced a couple of scenes for its eponymous star, and a voice actor in a "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command" episode in the database, died May 29 at 81; Michael Pate, star of the 1971-75 Australian TV series "Matlock Police," which the database credits with one and possibly two scenes, and who also made more than a hundred guest appearances on American TV from the 1950s on as well as having been a cast member of Roger Corman's 1962 release "Tower of London" with Sandra Knight, died September 1 at 88; Van Johnson, the 1940s heartthrob who surprisingly didn't score any castings with scenes in his heyday, but did appear in the TV-movie pilot for the 1984-85 series "Glitter," for which Morgan Brittany is credited with a scene, passed away December 12 at 92; and Bernie Hamilton, who played the gruff boss of "Starsky and Hutch,'" thus helping put the show's four entries into the database-and helping put Dianne Kay into the Hall of Fame for the Mother of All Kidnapped Schoolgirl Scenes-died December 30 at 80.

And although the world will rightly remember him more readily as a standup comic than as an actor, let's tip a glass to George Carlin, who was cast in a pair of 1991 big-screen releases in the database-"The Prince of Tides" with Melinda Dillon and "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" with Annette Azcuy and Sarah Trigger. Carlin was 71 when he died June 22.

Directors we lost this year included Sydney Pollack, who helmed Faye Dunaway's Hall of Fame scene in 1975's "Three Days of the Condor," as well as having served as producer of database titles "Cold Mountain" (2003, Natalie Portman and Kathy Baker), "Birthday Girl" (2001, Nicole Kidman), and "The Player" (1992, Julia Roberts), and who died May 26 at 73; Anthony Minghella, who directed "Cold Mountain" and who was 54 when he passed away March 18; Jean Delannoy, who made the 1956 version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" starring Gina Lollobrigida, and who died June 18 at 100; and exploitation specialist Cirio H. Santiago, one of the database's most prolific directors with at least eleven titles with scenes-"T.N.T. Jackson," "She Devils in Chains," Death Force," "Stryker," "Caged Fury," "Wheels of Fire," "Future Hunters," "Beyond the Call of Duty," "Angelfist," "Stranglehold," and last but not least, "Caged Heat II: Stripped of Freedom." Santiago was 72 when he passed away September 26.

Among the writers whose works spawned database scenes and who passed away in 2008, perhaps the best known was Michael Crichton, whose screenplay for 1973's "Westworld" (Julie Marcus)-which Crichton also directed-spawned two sequels-"Futureworld" (1976, Blythe Danner), which he didn't write, and the 1980 TV-movie "Beyond Westworld" (Connie Sellecca), which he did. He also both penned and directed "Looker" (1981, Susan Dey), and "Rising Sun" (1993, Susan Ilda), and wrote "Timeline" (2003, Frances O'Connor and Anna Friel). Perhaps it serves as a posthumous tribute that a remake of "Westworld" is currently in production. Crichton died November 4 at 66.

Veteran screenwriter Malvin Wald, whose 1948 photoplay "The Naked City" spawned both a TV series with two scenes and a 1998 TV-movie with a scene for Robin Tunney and Kathryn Erbe, and who also wrote a 1966 "Daktari" episode in the database ("The Diamond Smugglers" with Cheryl Miller), died March 6 at 90. And Gregory Mcdonald (that was how he spelled his last name, apparently), whose "Fletch" novels gave rise to Patricia Kalember's chloroforming in 1989's "Fletch Lives," passed away September 7 at age 71.

Also Ron Leavitt, co-creator of "Married With Chidren," and by extension its ten database scenes, and comic book writer Steve Gerber, who created "Howard the Duck" and thus helped put Lea Thompson's scene from the 1986 movie into the database, were both 60 when they died on the same day, February 10.

Perhaps some mention should be made here of Gary Gygax, co-creator of the game Dungeons and Dragons, given that the 2000 movie based on the game produced a handgagging for Zoe McLellan. Gygax passed away March 4 at 69.

Having mentioned Eartha Kitt above, I'd say it's a safe bet that some of you still haven't gotten that unforgettable theme music from the 1966-69 "Batman" TV series out of your heads yet. Tip a glass to composer Neal Hefti for that. Hefti was 85 when he died October 10.

And if you remember anything from the short-lived TV series that was spawned by the hit movie "Shaft" other than Karen Carlson in its one database scene, it has to be Issac Hayes' theme music. Hayes, who died August 10 at 65, won an Oscar for that theme and both a Grammy and a Golden Globe for the film's soundtrack.

Two other well-known composers whose work undoubtedly accompanies many database scenes passed away this year: Alexander Courage, who, of course, wrote the "Star Trek" theme and orchestrated many other films and shows, on May 15 at 88, and Earle H. Hagen, composer for "The Andy Griffith Show," "I Spy," and "The Mod Squad," and who co-wrote (with Dick Rogers) "Harlem Nocturne," which was used as the theme of the 1984 "Mike Hammer" series, and who was also 88 when he died on May 26.

And...in a world where the ability of a film's trailer to grab and hold one's interest has such an impact on whether one decides to drop $10 or more on a ticket to go see it...come on now, you imagined Don La Fontaine intoning that signature tag line of his, didn't you? La Fontaine, voiceover artist extraordinaire, passed away September 1 at 68.

Whether and to what extent anyone considers fashion-designer-turned-caustic-fashion-critic Mr. Blackwell worth mentioning here is likely debatable, although there are certainly some database denizens who probably didn't queue up to sign his condolence book. Worthy of note or not, I do seem to recall his having made the discussion page here once or twice. He was 86 when he died October 19.

Finally, there is a woman whose passing this year should be noted here, I think, even though the database has no scenes of either her or any actress playing her. That notwithstanding, there are a pair of scenes in the database for which both she and a man who is still alive as I write this, and who also made the news this year for a reason related to how those scenes came to be, probably bore a great deal of responsibility.

The two scenes are of Karen Ludwig in the HBO movie "Citizen Cohn" from 1992, and Lindsay Crouse in 1983's "Daniel." And the woman I refer to above, of course, was Ruth Greenglass, who passed away April 7 at 84. Her husband David Greenglass was Ethel Rosenberg's brother. The other man who made the news was Rosenberg co-defendant Morton Sobell, who finally admitted earlier this year, after nearly six decades of denials, that the jury which convicted him got it right; he was indeed guilty of espionage.

It was Ruth's testimony, however, that she saw Ethel typing up the atomic secrets she and her husband Julius were accused of passing to the Soviets that proved decisive in sending her to the electric chair along with her husband, as opposed to at the very least giving her a more lenient sentence. While Julius' guilt has been all but confirmed by disclosures made in the years since the fall of the Soviet Union, there have always been lingering doubts as to whether and to what extent Ethel was actually involved. Did Ruth really see what she said she saw, or did she throw her sister-in-law under the bus to save her own skin and David's? The matter has now been removed to a higher court for final judgment.

While it is likely that many of us look ahead to this new year with apprehension over what it may hold in store, we can take comfort in considering the contributions of all the actresses and other creative people listed above. They too saw many hard times throughout their lives and careers, yet persevered to bequeath their gifts to us. And thus will the cycle continue. We need only rise to the challenge they have set before us, to honor their legacy and to build upon it through our continued best efforts.

And while at the same time apologizing for this year's obituary post being so late, I'd like to give special thanks to our host and moderator, who went above and beyond the call of duty to help get it here.
An Old Friend
Saturday January 10 14:49:15 2009
Re: Another Treat for Comic Fans!!!
S.M. wrote:


> I'd scan 'n post them but cant upload pics from your pc
> sadly. At least some info for the comics collectors!

S.M. makes a good point here: we can't post pictures directly from our PC since this site has no uploading feature. It'd probably be a pain in the ass - not to mention expensive, time consuming, and a security risk - to add this feature to this site so I won't even ask.

BUT, does anyone have a work around/hack to get images from one's personal collection to this place, so all can enjoy? I'm thinking maybe posting a pic on a blogspot page THEN linking to that. I haven't tried it yet but will soon.

Anyone else have any ideas?
Bob
Saturday January 10 15:45:35 2009
Re: Message to people in the TV industry
Tapemaster wrote:

> The Moderator wrote:
> > This post was deleted.
> > Poster: Tapemaster
> > Reason: Off-topic.
> Really? How so?

"Message to people in the TV industry". Quit sending
messages to anyone but people here. Seriously.

> Just to let you know, from now on, every message of mine
> that you delete will be posted on Pofoz's page.

A much better idea will be post there them INSTEAD.
If there are very many more deleted ones, that will be
your new home. Don't talk yourself into something you
won't like.


The Moderator
Saturday January 10 15:55:18 2009
Re: Another Treat for Comic Fans!!!
Bob wrote:

> S.M. makes a good point here: we can't post pictures
> directly from our PC since this site has no uploading
> feature. It'd probably be a pain in the ass - not to
> mention expensive, time consuming, and a security risk -
> to add this feature to this site so I won't even ask.

All that and a potential copyright headache. So, no, it
won't be a feature.

> Anyone else have any ideas?

What you need is a place with storage that allows
hotlinking. Most of the freebie web sites like Tripod
don't allow hotlinking (which know if you ever try).

There are image oriented sites like tinypic and
photobucket and such. I don't know what their linking
policies are or how fussy they are about content.



The Engineer
Saturday January 10 16:43:18 2009
Re: Tape's lost it again.
C wrote:

> ...and in other news, the sun is hot, water is damp and
> the economy is stuffed.
No matter how many times you see it done, there is just a tremendous feeling of disbelief as you watch someone dig their own grave with their mouth.

Saturday January 10 17:23:28 2009
More Comix!!!
Is Lois Lane the most tied damsel of all time?! Shame she isn't also gagged....
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k309/prgram/archive_8-2008/Supermans_Girl_Friend_Lois_Lane_No1.jpg
Danny
Saturday January 10 18:11:12 2009
Re: FLASHPOINT
There is nothing of interest in Episodes 2-4
DarkRider
Saturday January 10 18:31:20 2009
scene
Upcoming scene on this week's Criminal Minds (Wednesday, CBS), in case someone hasn't mentioned this already.
K. Madden
Saturday January 10 20:31:20 2009
Re: More Comix!!!
Danny wrote:
> Is Lois Lane the most tied damsel of all time?! Shame
> she isn't also gagged....

This comic books was published during the late 1960s or early 1970s; I recall buying this comic book years ago because I was attracted by the bound and gagged damsel in distress on the cover. I also bought several other issues of this title for the same reason-they featured a beautiful female character, in many cases Lois Lane, bound and gagged. I don't recall a single instance of there being a bound and gagged female character in the actual story; these promising covers were intended to entice sexually aroused adolescent males into buying these comic books. I was dismayed to learn that the covers NEVER ONCE fulfilled the promise on their covers.
I also recall some issues of "Wonder Woman" that were published around this time that featured bound and gagged damsels on the covers, but NEVER ONCE featured a single one in the actual story. Most prominent in my recollection is the issue with a beautiful blonde bound and gagged in a hot pink minidress, on her knees, with an expression of terror in her eyes as two savage dogs are stealthily approaching Diana Prince, who is trying to rescue her, from behind.
Hadji
Saturday January 10 21:20:30 2009
Smackdown Vs. Raw 2009
Anybody know if there are any kidnapping storylines. I know in 08, there was a Melina kidnapping storyline. I dont have it, so can someone tell me!
Saturday January 10 22:08:24 2009
Re: While we pause to contemplate...
You forgot Carlin's involvement as the 2nd. Mister Conductor on Shining Time Station, and Issac Hayse's role of the Chef on South Park!
Another Freind
Saturday January 10 22:28:50 2009
I'm going to hell for this one ...
An Old Friend wrote:

> Hazel Court's unusual repertoire consisted of ... "The
> Premature Burial" from 1962. She passed away April 15, 2008, at 82.

That was ... quite the premature burial!

Also, nothing is more certain than death ... and taxes.






(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Pat Powers
Saturday January 10 23:26:00 2009
Re: More Comix!!!
Hadji wrote:

> Danny wrote:
> > Is Lois Lane the most tied damsel of all time?!
> Shame
> > she isn't also gagged....
> This comic books was published during the late 1960s or
> early 1970s; I recall buying this comic book years ago
> because I was attracted by the bound and gagged damsel in
> distress on the cover. I also bought several other issues
> of this title for the same reason-they featured a
> beautiful female character, in many cases Lois Lane,
> bound and gagged. I don't recall a single instance of
> there being a bound and gagged female character in the
> actual story;

I'm sure many have seen this famous cover. LL actually was B&Gd in this issue on one panel, but is curiously also speaking in it.

I guess if you don't count adult-themed comics like Empowered or The Blonde, either LL or Mary Batson (aka Mary Marvel) would probably be the most B&G damsel of all time.

Speaking of Empowered, was anyone as disappointed as I was in #4? I hope this "not going to be tied and helpless" isn't a trend in future issues.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/madfish86/loislane120.jpg
MadFish
Saturday January 10 23:41:17 2009
Awesome comic book cover
Now that the comics covers are out, let me share with you this beautiful cover. For me it's really inspiring: if I were a movie or TV director, I'd definitely shoot this with a real actress, same position, same bondage... I wouldn't change a thing.

Funny story about this cover: Spider-Woman is bound and gagged in the previous issue; in this one, there is absolutely no such situation for her like this. Apparently readers liked it and Infantino gave them a treat. Don't you love it?
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/images/spiderwoman/006.jpg
Jorge-Enlever

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