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Wednesday November 21 00:20:25 2007
Re: Heroes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Really pissed at these writers for not gagging these two
> hotties and instead gagging the mom, who looks like she's
> 60 with a bad hair day.

Who plays the mom in the show anyway? The guy called her "Mrs. Butler" but I can't find a "Mrs. Butler" in the cast credits.

Wednesday November 21 00:35:41 2007
Re: One Life to Live
Vlad wrote:

> Greetings. Did anyone catch One Life to Live today.

Replays at 2 a.m. Eastern on SOAPNet.


The House of Le Bastard
Wednesday November 21 00:44:50 2007
Re: Heroes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Who plays the mom in the show anyway?


Is not Ashley Crow?
Jay L
Wednesday November 21 00:47:26 2007
Re: One Life to Live
Vlad wrote:

> Greetings. Did anyone catch One Life to Live today. I
> happened to scan by ABC and there was a 40ish but hot
> blond tied to a chair and cleave gagged in a barn by I
> think a butler.

Just checked the recap on ABC online and the promo for Wednesday, and nothing appears fitting this description. Usually, the recap would say "so and so in danger." There was nothing. Think this is a hoax.
Wednesday November 21 00:51:11 2007
Re: One Life to Live
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> danger." There was nothing. Think this is a hoax.

We were thinking the same thing. No evidence of anything anywhere online.
The House of Le Bastard
Wednesday November 21 02:49:56 2007
Re: One Life to Live
"Think this is a hoax."

Nope, the scene description was pretty accurate. Damsel briefly gagged, and is tied-up in barn while kanoodling over a last will and testament. Still tied-up going into tomorrow, but lunk-head hero looming.


Wednesday November 21 03:03:02 2007
Huh
There's lunkhead heroes in soap operas !?

C
Wednesday November 21 07:26:49 2007
Re: Heroes
> Jute wrote:

> and why lead actress in every tv seris save from the gag
> My idea,and I'm quite aware that I may be wrong, is that
> women

Actually, it's probably simpler than that. What kind of women do we see on TV and in movies? Actresses. How do actresses judge their impact in a particular movie or show? Lines, that is how many sentences they say. Does "mmmph" count as a line? I doubt it. Gagging cuts down on the number of lines, which is the most used measure of one's presence in a TV show or movie. That's why they don't like it.
Pat Powers
Wednesday November 21 08:53:46 2007
Re: Heroes
X wrote:

> Jute wrote:
> > (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > > why every tv seris only lead actor get gagged,
> like
> > > supernatural the lead actors alredy get tight
> cleave
> It's simple. You put your female lead into a subjugated
> situation (the gag carrying obvious symbolic value on its
> own without the ropes) and you've completely compromised
> her moral solidarity as the protagonist of a show.

Yeah, but what if a dude gets b&g? Does his moral solidarity as the protagonist of the show get compromised? Because it happens a lot. And what about Xena. She got tied up a lot. I don't recall her moral solidarity as the protagonist vanishing.

I
> don't care if you're not committed to this fetish, the
> image of a bound and gagged woman is inherently, a
> fetishized image.

I'll buy that.

> I've read a ton of feminist film critique, and this is an
> important issue. A gag outright shuts down the process of
> the narrative in favour of providing males with
> "something to be looked at". Ironically,
> however, there are those who find scenes with men just as
> enticing as we find scenes with ladies (ie. boundit).

Ah, yes, the "male gaze" reducing women to sexual icons in the blink of an eye. This one's right on par with those X-ray glasses they used to sell in the back of comic books. To see a woman is to objectify her. It's hard to believe grown-ups go for this stuff.
Pat Powers
Wednesday November 21 09:04:00 2007
Re: Heroes
The Moderator wrote:

> X wrote:
> > I've read a ton of feminist film critique, and this
> is an
> > important issue.
> Let's not go down this path.

Sorry, Mr. Mod, responded before I saw your warning. Feel free to delete, I'll carry on over at Pofoz's page.
Pat Powers
http://www.pofoz.com/did/forum/conspiracy-theories.html
Wednesday November 21 09:29:12 2007
Re: One Life to Live
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> "Think this is a hoax."
> Nope, the scene description was pretty accurate. Damsel
> briefly gagged, and is tied-up in barn while kanoodling
> over a last will and testament. Still tied-up going into
> tomorrow, but lunk-head hero looming.

Saw the scene yesterday and can confirm that it is true. Effeminate servant is the one holding blonde prisoner.
WWS
Wednesday November 21 09:39:13 2007
Interesting bit about Terry Gross
In the interview at the homepage link, Terry Gross, host of the NPR radio interview show "Fresh Air" said that the third show she ever did as a radio host was on "bondage imagery in TV and the movies." Funny thing is, this was back in the early '70s and she couldn't find anyone who knew anything about the topic to interview. Me, I woulda gone with Carl McGuire, but was he even around back then?
Pat Powers
http://www.theroanoker.com/webexclusives/terrygross.cfm
Wednesday November 21 09:39:14 2007
Can't get enough Naomi Watts?
Good news for Naomi Watts fans. Not only will we get her bound and gagged in the Funny Games remake, but it is being reported she is being considered for a role in Angels & Demons. I'm assuming the role is for the lead female character...who gets bound and gagged in the book. Let's hope they stay true to the original source material! I just can't get enough of Naomi Watts bound and gagged!

Article at the link:
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=6658&count=0

Schriev Leiber
Wednesday November 21 10:08:06 2007
Re: One Life to Live
WWS wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > "Think this is a hoax."
What makes you say that? Official OLTL site sucks.
Checked another site and came up with this:
"In the sables, Chuck leaves Nigel alone with Alex – who is tied and gagged! After Nigel removes the gag, he warns her it’ll be over his dead body before he allows her to reveal David’s paternity! Nigel then makes Alex privy to the details of Asa’s will – and says that no one was left a penny!"
Couldn't find any info on who plays the character of Alex.
http://www.soaps.com/images/news_daily/3250_3398655.jpg
MT
http://www.soaps.com/onelifetolive/update/3250/Confessions_Of_The_Heart
Wednesday November 21 10:09:53 2007
Re: Heroes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Who plays the mom in the show anyway? The guy called her "Mrs. Butler" but I can't find a "Mrs. Butler" in the cast credits.

Ashley Crow plays Mrs. Bennett not Mrs. Butler. Butler probably is the alias they are using so that no one can find them after the "Company Man" tie up last season.
civil
Wednesday November 21 11:18:32 2007
Re: One Life to Live
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> "Think this is a hoax."
> Nope, the scene description was pretty accurate. Damsel
> briefly gagged, and is tied-up in barn while kanoodling
> over a last will and testament. Still tied-up going into
> tomorrow, but lunk-head hero looming.
Yeah, sometimes you're watching for the big right hook and never see the left cross coming. I'd been watching soap spoilers for news about the kidnapped Marti (Christina Chambers), hoping for a scene. Didn't see any word on it so tuned in late Tuesday just as the gag on the other actress was being removed. Good news is the lunkhead did some eavesdropping but then left and the woman was still tied at the end of the hour. But it's mostly a comical situation. Remain hopeful they are warming up for much better scene with Chambers. Blonde actress is not unattractive, but certainly there are many better subjects for a scene on the show.

Cinch
Wednesday November 21 11:26:43 2007
Re: Can't get enough Naomi Watts?
Schriev Leiber wrote:

Let's hope they stay true to the original source
> material! I just can't get enough of Naomi Watts bound
> and gagged!
This brings up the question - what movie has most disappointed people with its exclusion of a scene that was in the original source material? I know I still get sick when I think about the James Bond "Moonraker" movie. THREE great passages in the book, and they couldn't put in a single thing. Shoulda asked for my money and two hours back.


Jute
Wednesday November 21 11:45:06 2007
Funny Games
I appreciate everybody's optimism, but I have not seen one still or pic of Naomi Watts gagged in "Funny Games." I'm very receptive to the idea, mind you. Anyone can point me in the right direction?
Mick
Wednesday November 21 12:19:39 2007
Re: Heroes
civil wrote:

> Ashley Crow plays Mrs. Bennett not Mrs. Butler. Butler
> probably is the alias they are using so that no one can
> find them after the "Company Man" tie up last season.

Wow, she sure looks diffrent than from her days on that sci-fi show "Probe"...but I guess that WAS 20 years ago!

Wednesday November 21 12:28:11 2007
Devilman UK
Devilman UK appears to have posted an update today.
http://www.majorjohns.com/devilman_01.jpg
Stephanie
http://www.majorjohns.com
Wednesday November 21 12:46:20 2007
Re: One Life to Live
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>Just checked the recap on ABC online and the promo. Think this is a hoax.

Apologies to Vlad, the original poster.
Wednesday November 21 12:48:46 2007
Re: Funny Games
Mick wrote:

> I appreciate everybody's optimism, but I have not seen
> one still or pic of Naomi Watts gagged in "Funny
> Games." I'm very receptive to the idea, mind you.
> Anyone can point me in the right direction?

Wish I could, but I did see a pic of her wrap-around tape gagged which matches the end of the original movie. The shot of her in the doorway in the trailer shows her bound but not clearly gagged...and the original featured what has to be the largest stuff gag in movie history.
Will the Bloody
Wednesday November 21 12:54:24 2007
Re: One Life to Live
Cinch wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > "Think this is a hoax."
> > Nope, the scene description was pretty accurate.
> Damsel
> > briefly gagged, and is tied-up in barn while
> kanoodling
> > over a last will and testament. Still tied-up going
> into
> > tomorrow, but lunk-head hero looming.

Yes, and unless I'm mistaken, the damsel is played by long-time soap actress Tonja Walker, who has had roles on GH, Passions, & Guiding Light, but has managed to never end up in bondage till now. And she's still quite hot, having only been born in 1960!

I caught the recap last night & there are 2 scenes of her gagged...the first is right at the beginning, even while the credits are still being show. The second is in the next segment, about 7 minutes in. She's tied to the chair for the rest of the episode, bantering with the butler-guy over a will.

SoapNet replays the weeks' worth of episodes every weekend, and since yesterday's episode opened with her tied & gagged, it may be a safe bet to think there may have been more in the preceeding episode (Monday's). To be safe, it may be worthwhile to watch the week's recap of Monday episode this weekend (if you get SoapNet).

Of course, if the action began last week, we're screwed, as it's lost forever...
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Wednesday November 21 13:01:38 2007
Re: One Life to Live
JP wrote:

>the damsel is played by
> long-time soap actress Tonja Walker,

That's her, and I agree, wanted to see her in a scene for many years. She actually goes by Tonja Walker-Davidson today, for searching purposes. Amazing she was never B&G before, since she always played loudmouth characters.
Wednesday November 21 13:22:41 2007
Heroes
Anyone else find it funny that the recent Heroes disappoitment is generating more 'chatter' than all the great European scenes have this year combined...

Interesting that our little hobby is more about what DIDN'T happen...

i guess we're all still hunting for that perfect scene...
Steve a
Wednesday November 21 13:45:50 2007
Re: Funny Games

> I appreciate everybody's optimism, but I have not seen
> one still or pic of Naomi Watts gagged in "Funny
> Games."

This pic was posted here not too long ago
http://knotsotight.com/knotsotight/did/funny2.jpg
steve
steve@boundunderduress.com
http://www.knotsotight.com
Wednesday November 21 14:23:09 2007
4 Fast 4 Furious
In the "hope springs eternal" department, it looks like my current wish-lister, Jordana Brewster, will be reprising her role as Vin Diesel's sister in an upcoming fourth (really? how time flies) installment of the Fast and Furious franchise.

Most of the film's distress will likely happen to cars, of course, but since there's also drugs and gangsters and such involved, it's possible that one of them just might have an unwilling passenger in its trunk.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.jebsadventurebound.net
Wednesday November 21 15:43:36 2007
Trolls
I Have been coming here for almost as long as Pat and Van.

I have always supported Brian's efforts to keep this site on point and have often joined in the gang up on the idiot trolls.

Usually these poor souls get the message and quietly disappear.

However, circomstances may indicate that one may be fighting back.

For the last two days immdeiately after I open "Brianspage.com" I am hit with adware for two 'anti virus, anti spyware' sites.

The technique is to flood my computer with inane pop ups for "G-rated" sites followed by 'are you geeting a lot of popups, is your computer acting strange, etc' popups.

This doesn't happen if I don't come here.

Norton has cleared over a dozen viruses in the past two days.

Norton also treates the two suspect sites as medium security risks and prompts me through manually removing them.

Sure are some strange coincidences !!!!!!!!!!!
Jacot
Wednesday November 21 15:46:52 2007
Re: Trolls
Jacot wrote:


Sure are some strange coincidences !!!!!!!!!!! <<<

It's probably specific to your computer. Doesn't happen to others.

Wednesday November 21 17:09:39 2007
Re: Trolls
Jacot wrote:

Thanks for the heads up but I haven't had any problems going to this site.
Viking
Wednesday November 21 17:53:43 2007
Re: Movie adaptation with the most frustrating exclusion
> This brings up the question - what movie has most disappointed people with its exclusion of a scene that was in the original source material?
----
Miranda's forced nude-bondage modelling B&g'd in "The Collector" comes to mind.

Of course, such a scene was not possible for a mainstream movie film in 1965.
Kinky-napper
Wednesday November 21 18:20:28 2007
Re: Heroes
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Poster: Tapemaster
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Wednesday November 21 18:20:50 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:20:58 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:21:06 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:21:23 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:21:32 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:21:38 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:21:47 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:22:24 2007
Re: Heroes
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Wednesday November 21 18:22:37 2007
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Re: Heroes
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Re: Heroes
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The Moderator
Wednesday November 21 18:26:24 2007
People need to listen
When I say not to go down a path, DON'T GO DOWN IT.

Tapemaster, you are on the thin edge of banishment. No,
you NO have appeal or explanation rights. Any reply to this
message will be ignored.

The Moderato
Wednesday November 21 18:38:16 2007
Re: People need to listen
The Moderato wrote:

> Any reply to
> this
> message will be ignored.

Yes, and pissing off the "Moderato", who just happens to be the Latin brother of the Moderator and one super bad hombre, may just get you a Colombian Necktie too.

Sorry Senior Moderato, I could not resist. ;-)
El Wavy
muchwavy@yahoo.com
http://www.nochevilla.com
Wednesday November 21 18:48:54 2007
Re: People need to listen
The Moderato wrote:

> When I say not to go down a path, DON'T GO DOWN IT.
> Tapemaster, you are on the thin edge of banishment.
> No,
> you NO have appeal or explanation rights. Any reply to
> this
> message will be ignored.

You are making it VERY difficult for us to talk about ANYTHING anymore.

Why am I on the edge of banishment when a bunch of us were talking about it? Why are you singling me out? I didn't even start that thread.

That thread WAS "on-topic". However, as usual, you just felt that it was "unproductive".

It gets very BORING just talking about the SLIM possibility that there MIGHT be a FAR SHOT of a NON GAG scene on a show this week. We want to talk about other things as well.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday November 21 18:53:49 2007
One Life to Live
There was no footage of Tonja Walker (who was bound and gagged in yesterday's episode) at all on today's "One Life to Live". The preview for the next episode (not shown until next Monday) did not show her either.

I certainly hope THAT message was "on-topic".
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Wednesday November 21 19:16:53 2007
Humourous!
Tapemaster wrote:

> I certainly hope THAT message was "on-topic".


Beautiful!
Back one of the nicest guys on here into a corner and then sqwack acid at him when he gets mad when you could have gone to Pofoz forum with Pat Powers where your topic is allowed.
Jay L
Wednesday November 21 19:39:28 2007
re: the ongoing discussion....
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Poster: JP
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Wednesday November 21 19:39:36 2007
re: the ongoing discussion....
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Poster: JP
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Wednesday November 21 19:45:49 2007
Re: Humourous!
Jay L wrote:

> Beautiful!
> Back one of the nicest guys on here into a corner and
> then sqwack acid at him when he gets mad when you could
> have gone to Pofoz forum with Pat Powers where your topic is allowed.

SERIOUSLY!
Its like going on The Tonight show (Back in Da day)
and Dissing ~~~Johnny~~~
Snowcat
Wednesday November 21 20:41:32 2007
Re: One Life to Live
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Apologies to Vlad, the original poster.

Same here. It just sounded shady.

We stopped taping scenes here, so we couldn't confirm. But we may check this one out during the rest of the week, if it's on.

The House of Le Bastard
Wednesday November 21 20:42:12 2007
Re: One Life to Live
Tapemaster wrote:
I certainly hope THAT message was "on-topic".

Not to cast aspersions on the poster, but we've added a special board on our page for this type of input.
Most can't get enough of it.

http://majorjohns.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=WACKOS

Stephanie
Wednesday November 21 21:58:50 2007
24 Seasons 1-5 Alert
Walmart is showing a Black Friday ad that seasons 1 thru 5 will be on sale for $20/season. There are approx. 30 different scenes in the database.

Call that a DVD buying alert.
civil

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