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| Tuesday November 20 00:33:01 2007 Kristen Bell |
| Nice carry scene for OTS fans. |
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| Tuesday November 20 00:37:05 2007 Re: DeGrassi: The Next Generation |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > The Mod wrote: > > I don't care. > Yep. Fortunately, I don't care either. It always baffles me why goobers like you think it's a big threat to withold your wonderful contributions. You obviously haven't contributed jack to the Database recently, as you aren't registered. A quick run of your IP shows little contribution, which with your anonymous posting shouldn't be much of a surprise. So exactly what are we being deprived of? |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday November 20 02:18:50 2007 Re: DeGrassi: The Next Generation |
| The Moderator wrote:> So exactly what are we being deprived of? I'll light a candle. |
| C |
| Tuesday November 20 03:28:46 2007 the eye |
| will jessica alba get bound and gagged in it |
| Tuesday November 20 03:53:44 2007 Re: Emily Procter? Another Possible "Heads Up" U.S.A. |
| Raffish wrote: > Jay L wrote: > > "All New" CFTO channel promo for CSI: > Miami > > show has a villian personally going after > > "Cali"... **** Thanks for the tip ***** Still thanking? Would not better said "Cali has to use deadly force on fleeing criminals threatening her life" in the promo? With the cool shot of her pointing the gun at the charging car? Same drama, same "H" will handle it. No? Nice promo CFTO, thanks! |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday November 20 04:06:25 2007 Re: DeGrassi: The Next Generation |
| Raffish wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > Yep. Fortunately, I don't care either. **** Isn't it great when everyone agrees? ***** Quick air-sched scan doesn't show (posted ep: "Love My Way") in or around posting time. Good chance this gathered from YOOTOOB, or Bittor, or that file sharing the Euros love Better to throw the link up on the Video Page for those interested. All agree? |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday November 20 04:31:05 2007 Re: Heroes |
| civil wrote: > Mom bound and gagged in a chair with tape at 30'. Then > Mars chick with her arms chained to the chairs arms and > feet chained in water. Would it have killed the writers of the episode to include a strip of duct tape placed over Kristen Bell's mouth? Why are writers so reticent to gag her? |
| Hadji |
| Tuesday November 20 08:46:06 2007 Re: Heroes |
| kristen bell always safe from the gag. veronica mars 0 gag. why every tv seris only lead actor get gagged, like supernatural the lead actors alredy get tight cleave gagged. lost, desendren file and many more. and why lead actress in every tv seris save from the gag, like bird of prey 3 lead actress, rachel nicoles,dina meyer and ashely all escape from gag. buffy,veronica mars,hex, and many more. rachel nichols escape gag in her new movie p2,only simmone rynold get wrap tape gagged very tight,the movie suck |
| Tuesday November 20 09:27:57 2007 Heroes blurb |
| From NBC.com/Heroes site: "Bennet races home to find his wife tied up and Claire gone. He insists he can get Claire back because he has collateral in the form of Elle, who Bennet tortures for information by putting her feet in water and tying her limbs with rubber." Huh? Do the chains in the posted picture above switch to rubber at some point? |
| MT |
| Tuesday November 20 09:30:36 2007 Re: Heroes |
> civil wrote > Would it have killed the writers of the episode to > include a strip of duct tape placed over Kristen Bell's > mouth? Why are writers so reticent to gag her? Because the Writers are idiots. Think of last week's "Numbers" with its ripped from the headline of 1974 story line and cardboard chachters. If the produces decide to break the strike with replacement writers maybe One of Us (or two or three) should apply |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Tuesday November 20 09:32:42 2007 Re: Heroes |
| civil wrote: > Mom bound and gagged in a chair with tape at 30'. Then > Mars chick with her arms chained to the chairs arms and > feet chained in water. I thought this scene was terrific. It is my favorite scene of this season. Kristen Bell with her arms chained to the chair and her bare feet chained together. I loved seeing her in barefoot bondage. |
| Tuesday November 20 11:35:45 2007 NBC's misleading promo |
| How about the promo shown last week and leading up to the "Heroes" episode? The promo used the words from the bad guy "bring me the cheerleader" (or Claire) and they pan to Claire in a room with a hand reaching for duct tape but they don't show it was the father's hand, not the bad guy. |
| Tuesday November 20 12:23:10 2007 Re: Heroes |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > why every tv seris only lead actor get gagged, like > supernatural the lead actors alredy get tight cleave > gagged. lost, desendren file and many more. and why lead > actress in every tv seris save from the gag My idea,and I'm quite aware that I may be wrong, is that women feel their greatest "weapon" if you will is their ability to talk with, reason with, an opponent. Thus more than being tied up, they hate to be gagged as that makes them the most powerless and defenseless. Maybe this is what they express to writers or that writers pick up on. Even when they are "action babes" they value the ability to speak more perhaps than men do. |
| Jute |
| Tuesday November 20 13:29:45 2007 Re: Heroes |
| Jute wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > why every tv seris only lead actor get gagged, like > > supernatural the lead actors alredy get tight cleave It's simple. You put your female lead into a subjugated situation (the gag carrying obvious symbolic value on its own without the ropes) and you've completely compromised her moral solidarity as the protagonist of a show. I don't care if you're not committed to this fetish, the image of a bound and gagged woman is inherently, a fetishized image. It's like arguing why there aren't as many over-blown shots of female leads beginning at the ankles and panning slowly up from the legs. You've transformed her into a voyeuristic icon, something "to be looked at". I've read a ton of feminist film critique, and this is an important issue. A gag outright shuts down the process of the narrative in favour of providing males with "something to be looked at". Ironically, however, there are those who find scenes with men just as enticing as we find scenes with ladies (ie. boundit). |
| X |
| Tuesday November 20 13:32:02 2007 Re: NBC's misleading promo |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > How about the promo shown last week and leading up to the > "Heroes" episode? Hee! Hee! Hee! I just love it. All the hype. all the anticipation, all the wishing and it's the mother getting the "full treatment." Three, count them, three lame scenes. And everybody predicting it was going to be the "Holy Grail." Southbound |
| Southbound |
| Tuesday November 20 14:08:05 2007 Re: Heroes |
| X wrote: > Ironically, > however, there are those who find scenes with men just as > enticing as we find scenes with ladies (ie. boundit). Whack the putz. Save the world. |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday November 20 14:14:53 2007 Re: Heroes |
| > however, there are those who find scenes with men just as > enticing as we find scenes with ladies (ie. boundit). Looked through a forum once and most entries were by males writing "I'm not gay but somehow I love seeing guys tied up" No female entries |
| Tuesday November 20 14:48:01 2007 Funny Games |
| I have not seen this discussed, but I apologize if it has. The upcoming movie "Funny Games" stars Naomi Watts and the preview guarantees some scenes with bondage. Naomi is shown getting her legs tape, and there's a quick shot of her tied with arms behind her back. No gag in the preview. My guess is there won't be in the movie. |
| Mick |
| Tuesday November 20 15:09:56 2007 Re: Funny Games |
| > back. No gag in the preview. My guess is there won't be in the movie. She's been gagged in a few pics. There won't be much interest in the film (like Lindsay Lohan's) due to the subject matter |
| Tuesday November 20 15:18:30 2007 More Cecile Menibus |
| Just searched for the old pics and videos of cecile menibus (if anyone has it please mail me !). I found a french forum about tied up celebrities and there was this pic... Just found it, so there is maybe more... The URL is celebstied.actifforum.com |
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| seb576 |
| seb576@hotmail.com |
| Tuesday November 20 16:18:50 2007 Re: Heroes |
| Jute wrote: > My idea,and I'm quite aware that I may be wrong, is that > women feel their greatest "weapon" if you will > is their ability to talk with, reason with, an opponent. > Thus more than being tied up, they hate to be gagged as > that makes them the most powerless and defenseless. The fact that a gag makes a bound woman more powerless and defenseless is exactly WHY we gag snobs love gags so much! There is a WORLD of difference between a woman who is merely bound and a woman who is bound and GAGGED. > Maybe > this is what they express to writers or that writers pick > up on. Writers should NOT be listening to actresses. They should be listening to people like us who will tune in to a show SPECIFICALLY to see a woman bound and gagged. That is what the advertisers want: people to tune in. > Even when they are "action babes" they > value the ability to speak more perhaps than men do. A character can be shown to be an "action babe" and still be bound-and-gagged. She can be resourceful enough to figure out a way to cut the bonds (after a great deal of struggling), thereby showing that the woman is quite capable of saving herself. |
| Tapemaster |
| km574@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday November 20 16:20:26 2007 Re: Heroes |
| > A character can be shown to be an "action babe" > and still be bound-and-gagged. Then again, Wonder Woman was only gagged as Diana Prince in the series with Lynda Carter |
| Tuesday November 20 16:45:40 2007 Re: Heroes |
| Tapemaster wrote: > Jute wrote: > > My idea,and I'm quite aware that I may be wrong, is that > > women feel their greatest "weapon" if you will > > is their ability to talk with, reason with, an opponent. > > Thus more than being tied up, they hate to be gagged as {Snip} > Writers should NOT be listening to actresses. They should > be listening to people like us who will tune in to a show Don't *make* me start pontificating about my various Laws. It makes Mr. Moderator cranky. The writers are worried about the story and the Director is trying to get the damn thing on film without damaging the talent. There's no there there! There's no feminist actress conspiracy, and the powers that be in Hollywood aren't trying to make bondage films. Do you suppose there's a foot fetish version of Brian's forum somewhere where they post complaints about how they "ruined" the last episode of "CSI" by putting Marg Helgenberger in high heels but *not* doing five minutes of closeups? Is there a car chase version where they complain that Ziva climbed into a car on "NCIS" and sped away, but the tires didn't squeal? "It's the Great Traffic Safety Conspiracy, I tell you!!" ;-) |
| Van |
| vvvan@earthlink.net |
| http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/ |
| Tuesday November 20 16:56:28 2007 Re: Emily Procter? Another Possible "Heads Up" U.S.A. |
| Jay L wrote: > Raffish wrote: > Thanks for the tip **** Still thanking? Would not better said "Cali has to use deadly force on fleeing criminals threatening her life" in the promo? With the cool shot of her pointing the gun at the charging car? Same drama, same "H" will handle it. No? Nice promo CFTO, thanks! ***** Allow to redeem myself for the CSI: Miami waste of time, came in with a German B&G'd one and "made no mistake on it"! Rough ID favouring "Macht des Geldes" Talk to majorjohns.com so everyone here can watch the highlights For Raffy's tally: (Germany 218?) "SCORE!" 219 |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday November 20 17:17:05 2007 Re: Heroes |
| Tapemaster wrote: There is a WORLD of difference between a woman who is merely bound and a woman who is bound and GAGGED.<<< Yes. It's often easier to continue moving the scene forward, when all of the characters in the scene can talk. Writers should NOT be listening to actresses.<<<< ???? You don't think that people that write, direct, and produce entertainment should listen to the acting talent? That doesn't exist in the real world. It's like saying a baseball manager should not listen to his players. Who's actually on the field? They should be listening to people like us who will tune in to a show SPECIFICALLY to see a woman bound and gagged.<<<<< Do you have any numbers, any hard evidence that there is a flood of potential viewers that is just waiting to converge on a show with a gag in it? Do you think that if such a thing actually existed, Hollywood would not know about it? It would be clear to you, but completely unknown to those whose livelihoods depend on such information? She can be resourceful enough to figure out a way to cut the bonds (after a great deal of struggling), thereby showing that the woman is quite capable of saving herself.<<<< Wishful thinking doesn't quite cut it, when you try to explain every situation in terms of what you think you should be seeing. Van is right...there is no there there when it comes to these no-bonage conspiracy theories. It's about the show, the plot... they're not trying to make bondage films. |
| FYL Jr. |
| Tuesday November 20 17:17:32 2007 Re: Heroes |
| Van wrote: > It makes Mr. Moderator cranky. Yeah, we don't want that guy here. Pat Powers is getting a related discussion going on the new forum. {Homepage} |
| Jay L |
| http://www.pofoz.com/did/forum/index.html |
| Tuesday November 20 18:24:17 2007 Re: Heroes |
| > ...Writers should NOT be listening to actresses. As much as I hate to drag this thread out: In the vast majority of productions, the only one the writers listen to, if any, are the producers. There *may* exist the possibility, as in failing shows such as "Heroes", where the producers, directors, writers, and actors are in the same room going over a first draft read during a time crunch to see if it 'clicks' with a story they're currently working on. I believe this is the only time where an actor/actress has any input. A lot of television writers I'm sure would like to include a gag scene every once in awhile if only to make the job easier for themselves (less dialogue - less rewrites). If you want to blame anyone blame the producers who have the final say even if the actor/actress complains. This reminds me: Someone once posted Jessica Alba had a full treatment scene in the original script of "Into the Blue" but she complained about not being able to fight back -- This is the only rare example I know of where the actress called the (lame) shots on a particular scene. |
| Captureher |
| Tuesday November 20 18:54:14 2007 Re: Funny Games |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > > back. No gag in the preview. My guess is there won't > be in the movie. > She's been gagged in a few pics. There won't be much > interest in the film (like Lindsay Lohan's) due to the > subject matter I respectfully disagree. I'm very interested in this remake, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. |
| Abu Zalaam |
| Tuesday November 20 19:10:21 2007 Re: Heroes |
| X wrote: > I've read a ton of feminist film critique, and this is an > important issue. Let's not go down this path. |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday November 20 19:11:43 2007 Re: NBC's misleading promo |
| Southbound wrote: > And everybody predicting it was going to be > the "Holy Grail." No. Most of us had seen the behind the scenes pictures, and were pretty sure it wasn't really going to deliver much. A few got excited, but a few always do. |
| Brian R |
| Tuesday November 20 19:13:19 2007 Re: Heroes |
| Van wrote: > Don't *make* me start pontificating about my various > Laws. It makes Mr. Moderator cranky. The warning has been issued. Further posts will be dealt with. |
| The Moderator |
| Tuesday November 20 19:34:01 2007 Re: Funny Games |
| Abu Zalaam wrote: > I respectfully disagree. I'm very interested in this > remake, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. You're not. The original is geniunely creepy and clever in the extent to which it makes the viewer complicit in its bleak satire: it's more art flick than torture porn, I'd argue. And this not a film criticism forum, so I'll just say I'll be in line for this one, if maybe not on opening night. |
| Raffish |
| Tuesday November 20 20:32:39 2007 One Life to Live |
| Greetings. Did anyone catch One Life to Live today. I happened to scan by ABC and there was a 40ish but hot blond tied to a chair and cleave gagged in a barn by I think a butler. The gag was taken out soon, but she remained tied through out the entire episode, so it looks like it might continue. I didnt get caps, but I just found out that the episode, I believe, will be replayed tonight on soapnet. I hope I haveant broken any rules by mentioning that here and not on the alerts page. I dont want to anger the Mod. Later. |
| Vlad |
| Tuesday November 20 20:52:36 2007 Heroes line |
| My favorite part of the last episode was when the cheerleader's father reached for the duct tape and she turned to him in a dramatic close up and said "What are you going to do, tie me up?' That was cool, the rest of the episode sucked. |
| Tuesday November 20 21:09:32 2007 Re: Funny Games |
| Abu Zalaam wrote: (unsigned poster) wrote: back. No gag in the preview. My guess is there won't be in the movie. She's been gagged in a few pics. There won't be The film seems essentially identical to the original on my quick preview - I'll edit out the pertinent material and put up next week or so. |
| Stephanie |
| Tuesday November 20 21:43:03 2007 Re: Heroes |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > > A character can be shown to be an "action > babe" > > and still be bound-and-gagged. > Then again, Wonder Woman was only gagged as Diana Prince > in the series with Lynda Carter True, but in the "Deadly Dolphin" episode, Diana Prince finds a convinient sharp object to free herself. I once had an e-mail exchange with the late, great Gillian B on this subject and we both agreed a heroine B&G is almost a compliment as the bad guys find it to dangerous to have her walking and talking. A B&G herinoe manages an escape is better than a gal who, when told to sit down and shut up, sits down and shut up. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Tuesday November 20 22:06:01 2007 Niptuck |
| I read once that portia de rossi & miranda richardson will be kidnapped this season does anyone have more info or confirm i guess the good about fx is they repeat all week so if we miss it well see it again. I prey its agood scene. |
| Dave |
| Vjmhollywood@yahoo.com |
| Tuesday November 20 22:35:59 2007 Scene Night! & Thanks Blixen |
| Blixen wrote: > Yi San - Han Ji-Min > ep. 8 > the best scene is in ep. 8 (actress: Han > Ji-Min). Oh yeah, this a cleave beaut! Thanks for the "heads up" Humourous, I just saying well least this beaut ID'd and in the DB when an (Italian?) one SCORED with a B&G'd scene.. Back to ID'ing Three B&G'd today, fun stuff! Talked to majorjohns.com and these beauts are going to be posted there so you guys here can catch all the highlights |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday November 20 23:50:35 2007 Re: Heroes line |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > My favorite part of the last episode was when the > cheerleader's father reached for the duct tape and she > turned to him in a dramatic close up and said "What > are you going to do, tie me up?' Yeah. Someone reported that from a preview, but I said it was mistaken. Oops. Sorry. |
| Brian R |
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