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Wednesday May 28 03:39:46 2008
Bondage in classic art
More examples?
http://konst.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/brennus-and.jpg
Mandraketube
mandraketube@yahoo.com
Wednesday May 28 09:41:35 2008
Rambo
Nothing in the deleted scenes. I saw the black thing around her neck around the 57'mark, but was not a remains of a gag in a sense.

Here is where the cloth comes into play earlier in the movie. Around the 37' mark, this black cloth, or thing, is tied high to a wall by a black rope. Julie is setting on the floor with her hands bound behind her and leashed to the wall. The leash keeps her from moving forward and in essence it causes the victim to choke, or gag.

Sly only makes commentary about the boars being aggressive and breaking throught the poorly made gate. Julie must have refered to the gagging action of the leash around her neck, and not about a gag in our sense of the word.
civil
Wednesday May 28 11:45:06 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Mandraketube wrote:

> More examples?

I think that's one of the best. There are others, many others. Andromeda is THE iconic naked chick in chains for classical art. Check out the homepage link for a blog featuring many depictions of Andromeda with some interesting commentary on it. Be sure and leave comments, get the guy wondering what the hell happened.

I left a comment, of course.
Pat Powers
http://wansmile.blogspot.com/2008/03/andromeda-depicted.html
Wednesday May 28 12:57:16 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Mandraketube wrote:

> More examples?

Paul Delaroche, Le Jeune Martyr
I don't know how to put the picture in here, but here is a link to it: http://www.globalgallery.com/enlarge/028-38860/
perilousgirl
Wednesday May 28 13:38:11 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Mandraketube wrote:
> More examples?

One example *I'd* like some help with is the classic Arthurian damsel-tied-to-a-tree.

I've tried doing searches, but there are so many variations of name spellings (not to mention various versions of the Legend), that paintings I *know* exist never seem to pop.

It's some chick, possibly one of Guinevere's handmaidens of BFF's, who gets abducted, and is rescued by one of the roundtable ruffians. The problem is I don't know the name(s) of the damsel or the knight, and I'm too busy (lazy) to wikki-research the whole thing.

Any help?
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Wednesday May 28 15:10:25 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Another point, we have a lot of exameples of women tied up or chained in classic art but...what about the gags? i dont know any example

Mandraketube
mandraketube@yahoo.com
Wednesday May 28 15:15:13 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
> Another point, we have a lot of exameples of women tied
> up or chained in classic art but...what about the gags? i
> dont know any example

Definitely a classic...and gagged!
http://www.videostatic.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/05/maroon5_wake2.jpg
Wednesday May 28 15:35:14 2008
Interesting Harrison Ford Article
The Fate of Harrison Ford’s Film Fems

Looking back at the history of Harrison Ford’s leading ladies, you’ll see that if the movie is not a romantic comedy, the odds are in favor that these women are not safe. The suffering these ladies must endure range from inconveniences like breaking a nail or being harassed, to being abducted (and/or held captive, bound, gagged, tormented).
http://dave3.com/GoD/img/2008/feat/2008-05-24-fordsfems04.jpg
http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/05/28/harrison-fords-leading-ladies/
Wednesday May 28 15:40:56 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Mandraketube wrote:

> Another point, we have a lot of exameples of women tied
> up or chained in classic art but...what about the gags? i
> dont know any example

Oh, we had that discussion a while back. There was some really obscure Roman goddess who was always portrayed gagged. OK, I googled it, her name was Angerona and her holiday was the Divalia, and the rites were so secret and solemn that all of her statues had to be portrayed gagged so their secrets would not be revealed. Check out the homepage link under "Divalia" to get pretty much the same info from a more authoritative source.
Pat Powers
http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/festivalsinfo.html
Wednesday May 28 16:20:11 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art

> Oh, we had that discussion a while back. There was some
> really obscure Roman goddess who was always portrayed
> gagged.

Great! Angerona would be our goddess HAIL TO ANGERONA
Mandraketube
mandraketube@yahoo.com
Wednesday May 28 16:35:30 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Pat Powers wrote:

> gagged. OK, I googled it, her name was Angerona and her
> holiday was the Divalia, and the rites were so secret and
> solemn that all of her statues had to be portrayed gagged
> so their secrets would not be revealed.

Thanks Pat, that will firt in very nicely with my 'Roman Legions in the Americas' alt history story that is slowly germinating.
Jacot
Wednesday May 28 16:43:53 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Mandraketube wrote:
> Great! Angerona would be our goddess HAIL TO ANGERONA

Actually she was a goddess of winter and of death both of which are silent, whose festival was on Dec. 21st. I think I'll pass and go with someone breathing, necrophilia just hasn't much of a future.
Jupiter
Wednesday May 28 17:40:36 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Jupiter wrote:

> Actually she was a goddess of winter and of death both of
> which are silent, whose festival was on Dec. 21st. I
> think I'll pass and go with someone breathing,
> necrophilia just hasn't much of a future.

Wouldn't be much point in gagging her if she were dead, Jupes. And frankly, as a fellow who is ON RECORD as having manifested as a SWAN for sexual purposes, you aren't in a position to criticize anyone.
Pat Powers
Wednesday May 28 17:42:00 2008
Hot Kelli Garner Gagged
Here's the link:

http://www.redvelvetmovie.com/html_pages/videos.html

The end of the 1st trailer, cleave gagged and chair tied. Movie looks horrible and it might be hard to find but it is Kelli Garner GAGGED!
JR
Wednesday May 28 17:56:33 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Van wrote:

> It's some chick, possibly one of Guinevere's handmaidens
> of BFF's, who gets abducted, and is rescued by one of the
> roundtable ruffians. The problem is I don't know the
> name(s) of the damsel or the knight, and I'm too busy
> (lazy) to wikki-research the whole thing.
> Any help?
> http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

Nobody offhand really seems to fill the bill, but there are two possibilities. Elizabel, Guinevere's cousin, who is imprisoned by Claudas for espionage, and Emmeline, daughter of Duke Conon of Cornwall, who was kidnapped by Oswald the Saxon.

Pat Powers
Wednesday May 28 19:22:29 2008
Re: Bondage in classic art
Mandraketube wrote:

> More examples?

What was the title and artist of the work?
Captureher
Wednesday May 28 21:58:36 2008
site update
I finally update my site with "No Thanks, Coffee Make Me Nervous".

Recent updates include a music video by Nona Hendryx.
http://www.italianmoviefan.it/italia/cafner09.jpg
paolo
http://www.italianmoviefan.it/

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