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| Wednesday June 04 00:24:52 2008 Re: Blog Update |
| Van wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > > > Justina Vail's multiple scenes on Seven Days > convinced me > > > that a gag can make a otherwise beautiful girl > look ugly. > > > Which is too bad, because she had so many on > that show. > > > > She wasn't that beautiful > Sweet Gwendoline! Talk about beauty being in the eye of > the beholder... *I* think she's gorgeous (but then, I > usually go for the non-Classic types, *especially* if > they're redheads). ;-) > http://www.vansfiction.net OK, I share the opinion that Vail wasn't all that beautiful to begin with by Hollywood standards. She has a strong, square jaw and a big chin. I think the picture of Vail wearing the gag looks better than Van's photo, and not just because she's gagged. The cleave gag softens the outline of Vail's jaw (actually, it conceals it) making her jaw look smaller and rounder, improving her appearance greatly. It also puts more focus on her eyes, which are very nice, and her lips, which are also very nice. It can't do much for her chin. She might actually look very good in one of those trainer gags with a panel covering the mouth and chin, as it would focus all the attention on her best feature -- her eyes. |
| Pat Powers |
| Wednesday June 04 05:10:29 2008 Re: Blog Update |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > > Sure, they look hot in the gags, but that's because > we > > like gags. They look pretty damn hot without them, > too. > What's better with a gag - appearance or effectiveness? Personally I tend to go for aesthetics, but then i find both of the gags in your examples attractive in different ways. A tight Cleave can look very preety and allows you to see the lips, more of the face, but a wrap around tape gag tells me the girls captor is very thorough and reinforces her helplessness. I suppose it comes down to the actress in the end, if she can sell the gag as effectively preventing her from speaking then i can suspend disbelief |
| Moxx of Balhoom |
| Wednesday June 04 08:15:58 2008 Re: late alert -- Thunder and Lightning |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > (unsigned poster) wrote: > >> No great loss > > > I love Kate Jackson, but agree that scene is not that > good. Don't like the gag or her hairstyle. > Now "Scarecrow & Mrs. King," much better. should have used the bandana for the gag. She had plenty of chances as she wore a few of them. |
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| Wednesday June 04 08:16:24 2008 Gags for appearences sake. |
| I think this is a situational thing. The clip of Robin Johnson from "Code Name: Foxfire" that Raffish higlights this.week is a case in point. I like the way it looks. It's a pristine white hankie OTM gag. You can even see a "bow" -so to speak- behind her head caused by the knot in the gag. She's also wearing a strapless dress. I like the look. |
| Historian |
| historian64@hotmail.com |
| Wednesday June 04 10:36:09 2008 Re: Soko 5113 - Katharina Hahn |
| X wrote: > Hey guys. > I know that there are many scenes for this German police > drama already in the database, but none of them cover > either of the two scenes I'm aware of (via YouTube) for > actress Bianca Hein, who plays Katharina Hahn in more > recent episodes. Do any of our German pals out there know > anything about these scenes? I'm trying to get a bead on > the episodes numbers or titles .. Sorry i am late ;-) She was tied up two times in "Die Akte Göttmann" and she was bound and gagged in "Am Abgrund" and "Unter Verdacht" Here are the vids from the two scenes http://forum.robs-damsels.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3293&start=150 |
| Franck |
| franck07@hotmail.de |
| Wednesday June 04 11:40:10 2008 Re: "The Lost" & An Ode to Amanda B. |
| Pat Powers wrote: > but I can tell you > what was really, really, really tight, and that was > Amanda Blake's blouse, and she was workin' it, too. Nice. Yes, she definitely was. I suppose I should have said 'full figured' instead of 'mature' in my inital response. Personally. I would much rather see a 'full figured' damsel, regardless of her age, struggling against her restraints, rather than some young darling who is trying mighty hard to fill an A cup bra. But that is just me. |
| Jacot |
| Wednesday June 04 11:47:27 2008 Re: Waking Up |
| Pat Powers wrote: > and gagged. Sadly, the bondage is subpar, Have to disagree with you Pat, while for the universe in general it was pretty lame, for the Diana Riggs era Avengers the bondage was actually pretty good. Most of the Diana Riggs DID work in The Avengers was vey subpar and laughably lame. But, she was the first of the original three to be seen in the US, so whatever she did is of course superlative beyond all description !!!!!!!! JMHO AAYMMV |
| Jacot |
| Wednesday June 04 12:30:25 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: Pilot > preview on the website shows a couple of hotties in the > premire but no hint of a scene, I saw no other trailers > or previews from any other installment, just what's > running on the NBC commercial. Saw a brief commercial with a guy tied or shackled and hanging by his ankles. I suppose those who like guys tied deserve their moments too, but I hope the series will be an equal opportunity bondager. Not real optimistic though. |
| Jute |
| Wednesday June 04 15:11:10 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| Jute wrote: > I hope the series will be > an equal opportunity bondager. Not real optimistic though. Why shouldn't it be? Fear Factor used to hang hugely hootered hotties up in bikinis in four point suspension, then drop off their suspenders one by one until they plunged to their doo... to the pool beneath them. |
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| Pat Powers |
| Wednesday June 04 17:08:17 2008 Re: Gags altering a woman's appearance for better as well as for worse |
| Kinky-napper wrote: > Still, I'm reminded of a response by a noted person > within the commercial bondage industry on the most > important quality for a bondage model, and his/her > surprising answer was "She must look good in a > ballgag". I'd still need some examples of a woman who looks good without a ballgag will not look good wearing one, if it's properly worn. I can concede that there may be such out there, but I don't know of any. > I can't help but wonder if this is one (minor) reason > that ballgags are seldom seen in mainstream media -- > they're even rare in Horror/Slasher "Z-movie" > films. Actually, I think ballgags, ESPECIALLY black ballgags, are extremely effective in horror films. The woman's mouth is held open, there's a black hole where her throat should be ... very scary, if done right. I refer you to Melissa Sagemiller in "The Love Object" wearing a black ballgag and looking horrific. (Last photo below.) > It's quite likely that many, if not most, > mainstream actresses photograph better wearing a thin > cleave or silver duct tape, regardless of whether the > audience has to "suspend disbelief" on their > relative effectiveness. I think it varies from scene to scene and from actress to actress. > E.g., I'm thinking of the few examples in the Scene > Database with ballgags, and while the ballgags were > sometimes the "wrong size" for the wearer, I'd > have to concede that the actresses (two of whom were > former Playboy Playmates-of-the-Month) are probably more "attractive" without their ballgags. Yeah, there have been three Playmates that I know of who've worn ballgags, every last one of them badly. There's Donna D'Errico, whom I regard as one of the most beautiful women ever in terms of facial beauty (immediately below) who doesn't look so good in her gag, but she's supposed to act terrified, the ballgag AND the head harness are worn improperly, and she's badly lit. There's Jenny McCarthy from her Singled Out (middle photo) who's improperly wearing a ballgag but playing it for laughs, and that's OK. They do look stupid when they're hanging out in front of the damsel's face that way. There was also Teri Weigel in "Night Visitor." I didn't have an image of her handy, but I clearly recall that she wore it as badly, and IIRC worse than the other two. Quite a shame, since that was supposed to be a thriller. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from those three except that improperly worn ballgags are useful only for comedy. |
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| Pat Powers |
| Wednesday June 04 18:34:46 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| Pat Powers wrote: > Jute wrote: > > I hope the series will be > > an equal opportunity bondager. Not real optimistic > though. > Why shouldn't it be? Fear Factor used to hang hugely > hootered hotties up in bikinis in four point suspension,... Speaking of; did anyone ever post clips or even caps of Fear Factor highlights? I hated the show and avoided it but after hearing about scenes I did see one episode where a girl was similarly cuffed in a sealed shower that 'threatened' to drown her if some putz didn't do something to rescue her. It was pretty nice though mostly featured her from the waist up. |
| Captureher |
| Wednesday June 04 18:37:15 2008 Confirmation for "Criminal Minds" on Fri 6/6 |
| After seeing an alert for an episode this Friday 6/6 9pm I checked my programming guide; the only thing listed for primetime (8-10pm) are two episodes of "Ghost Whisperer" and one of "Numb3rs". Please confirm. |
| Captureher |
| Wednesday June 04 19:41:21 2008 Re: Gags altering a woman's appearance for better as well as for worse |
| > I'd still need some examples of a woman who looks good without a ballgag will not look good wearing one, if it's properly worn. I can concede that there may be such out there, but I don't know of any. ~~~~ Yeah, I realized I forgot to cite a reference. I was thinking of Jennifer Garner (who most men and women will concede looks good even when not in bondage) in that Alias "Disclosure" episode where the advance publicity shots had her wearing a pink ballgag, but when the episode actually aired the scene featured a tape-gag. That of course led to numerous Brian's Page posting on why the different scene version aired, but conspiracy theories aside, one plausible explanation is simply that Ms. Garner looked "better" (to the editing room crew) in the version that aired. But I'm probably in your camp that a PROPERLY worn Ballgag is a definite plus for most mainstream actresses -- at least, it's one of my favorite gags for commercial bondage. |
| Kinky-napper |
| Wednesday June 04 19:44:36 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| Captureher wrote: > Pat Powers wrote: > Speaking of; did anyone ever post clips or even caps of > Fear Factor highlights? I hated the show and avoided it > but after hearing about scenes I did see one episode > where a girl was similarly cuffed in a sealed shower that > 'threatened' to drown her if some putz didn't do > something to rescue her. It was pretty nice though mostly featured her from the waist up. I posted a couple of the more outrageous scenes, like the one below where contestants where chained in a spreadeagle with just one arm free on a rotating transparent slab that rested on the surface of a pool. Half the time they were in the water, half the time they were out, and they had to use the key in their free hand to free their other limbs and get off the slab. It was a timed event. And it was about the only time I've ever seen a well-lit beam shot of a scantily dressed woman in chains on TV. (See below.) I think in the last couple of years various forms of bondage became commonplace, but it was almost always a matter of being suspended or attached to something and having to either get free, or get freed by one's partner. I remember in one ep competing couples were both tied hand and food in some kind of very slippery environment, and one had to untie the other with their teeth while struggling not to slide off. That was a fun watch. But IIRC there wasn't a lot of interest in the show on this board, I suspect because FF never used gags. It's amazing how clueless many in the mainstream are about gags. Hell, a lot of commercial bondage sites appear to be clueless about gags. |
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| Pat Powers |
| Wednesday June 04 20:08:25 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| Pat Powers wrote: > Captureher wrote: > > Pat Powers wrote: > But IIRC there wasn't a lot of interest in the show on > this board, I suspect because FF never used gags. It's > amazing how clueless many in the mainstream are about > gags. Thre really wasn't ever much reason to gag the femle contestants. I can, however, recall one stunt during which gagging the female contestants might've been necessary. It was an all-female episode, and the stunt was the gross one. The ladies were shackled and sealed in plastic bags infested with numerous disgusting critters, such as insects, spiders, and millipedes. I suggested that the ladies should've had their mouths taped shut so as to prevent the creepy-crawlies from accidentally entering them. |
| Hadji |
| Wednesday June 04 20:27:47 2008 Who wants my collection ? |
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| The Moderator |
| Wednesday June 04 20:30:37 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| Hadji wrote: > The ladies were shackled and sealed in > plastic bags infested with numerous disgusting critters Disgusting critters = possibility of vomiting. > the ladies should've had their mouths taped shut so as > to prevent the creepy-crawlies from accidentally > entering them. Vomiting + tape = chance of aspirated vomit. |
| Brian R |
| Wednesday June 04 21:13:32 2008 Re: Fear Itself head's up |
| Brian R wrote: > Hadji wrote: > > The ladies were shackled and sealed in plastic bags >>infested with numerous disgusting critters > Disgusting critters = possibility of vomiting. > > the ladies should've had their mouths taped shut so > as to prevent the creepy-crawlies from accidentally > > entering them. > Vomiting + tape = chance of aspirated vomit. You bring up a very plausible scenario. But if the ladies had their mouths taped shut, then the creepy-crawlies wouldn't be able to enter their mouths, and they wouldn't vomit. |
| Hadji |
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