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Tuesday July 08 00:21:00 2008
A Message To/From Brian
>>message from brian and to brian

I received this message, claiming to be from Brian. I believe that it is and so want to respond. I also want both sides of this to be in public so there should be no mis-understanding.

Brian's text is shown with the >>, mine without

>>Really. I'm trying to run the little dog and pony show
>>that people seem to like.

I for one do. Keep up the good work.

>>Frankly, after 11+ years I'm pretty tired of the whole
>>thing, but willing to stick it out for the loyal gang.

Pleased to hear that.

>>Then I have to put up with this business.

I have read through the logs and suspect that you may assume that I have in someway hi-jacked your site. I have not, will not and would not know how to anyway.

I see my site as nothing more than insurance. As you know, we have lost a lot of other sites, and I don't want the shared culture that we have achived to be lost.


>>What's it going to take to make it stop?

I would be happy to help you get to the bottom of who is hi-jacking your traffic and sending it to me, if that is in fact happening. I don't know that it is. I suspect that what really happens is that your site gets flaky and so people come to mine. And I do not use the word flaky here to criticize you, just the connection between your visitor and your site sometimes, and we all know that this happens all over the web.



>>Brian

I hope you keep up the good work. You are doing a great job. I can not imagine why you would not want "free insurance" and it is clear to me that many of the visitors do like it.
Jenni
Tuesday July 08 00:44:50 2008
Foul Play Remake- Kate Hudson
If true, something to file away for the future....

Kate Hudson is planning to star in a remake of 1978’s Foul Play, in which her mother Goldie Hawn starred in.

Hudson will star in the remake with Matthew McConaughey, whom she had starred with in Fool’s Gold and How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days.

Hudson has confirmed that negotiations have started on the new film, but "we don't even have a writer yet".
Kate
Tuesday July 08 00:59:17 2008
malformed
I keep getting a malformed string message when I try and post - what's with this?
Tuesday July 08 01:15:54 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jenni wrote:

I can not imagine why you would not want "free
> insurance" and it is clear to me that many of the visitors do like it.

Actions speak louder than words. You didn't ask his permission to do what you are doing, did you? Case closed. If he wants insurance for his site, he doesn't have to go through you...ir's up to him.

cock puppet
Tuesday July 08 01:56:24 2008
Re: Serious Moonlight
This post was deleted.

Poster: Hadji
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Tuesday July 08 01:58:19 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Abusive
The Moderator
Tuesday July 08 02:00:07 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jenni wrote:

> >>message from brian and to brian
> I received this message, claiming to be from Brian.

Pretty amazing, posting private email to the forum.

Why did I bother?


Brian R
Tuesday July 08 02:01:01 2008
Re: malformed
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I keep getting a malformed string message

Use the Contact form to ask for assistance.

The Engineer
Tuesday July 08 04:43:51 2008
Re: 10 times Club
Jay L wrote:

> Or 11 Search by
> ===
> Actress: Stefanie Powers
> Description: gag
> Hits = 11

Ran the same search but only 7 of those scenes are b&g scenes. Rest are "ungagged" or "no gag" entries. Vince Grey used to be the resident expert on this topic at his Greyman's Page DID Hall of Fame section.
Lynda Carter is up there too I recall along with Kristian Alfonso. I'm sure someone has the DID stats on record.
MT
Tuesday July 08 05:12:26 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jenni wrote:
I suspect that what really happens is that your site gets flaky and so people come to mine.

The only thing flaky here is you.
MT
Tuesday July 08 06:06:44 2008
Re: Serious Moonlight
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> This is one to watch. Based on the above plus the
> following in a KB interview is encouraging..
> MoviesOnline: What about Serious Moonlight?
> KRISTEN BELL: It was Adrienne Shelly’s
> last script so there was a lot of weight involved with
> that.

I guess there would be. As a fan who was devastated by Shelly's murder, I'll be pulling for this one.

(Kinda odd to think of her writing a DiD scene, actually, but she was never afraid to stretch.)
Raffish
http://adrienneshellyfoundation.org/
Tuesday July 08 07:42:28 2008
10 Times Club
Japanese actresses Izumi Yamaguchi (at least 9 cleaves, 1 bit, 1 otm, all "Samurai"-scenes), Junko Miyazono (at least 8 cleaves, 1 otm/cleave, all "Samurai"-scenes) and Keiko Matsuzaka (at least 10 cleaves, 2 bits, 3 otms, all except two "Samurai"-scenes).
Guest
Tuesday July 08 10:39:34 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Brian R wrote:

> Pretty amazing, posting private email to the forum.
> Why did I bother?

Why wouldn't you bother. Why was it such a secret. I for one like the fact that this is in the open.

And to the person that said, permission was not asked. I doubt that many of the posters here ask permission from the rightful owners of the material and usually do not even give attribution.

Personally I will continue to come to this page and not the other and I will not post there. At the same time I do like insurance, I have it on my house, my car, etc.

Tuesday July 08 11:32:47 2008
Middle Man
I missed Middle Man last night, was there anything of note on the show?
TuxedoJarod
jarodgodel@gmail.com
Tuesday July 08 11:33:21 2008
Re: 10 Times Club
Apparently Laura Novoa had 10+ scenes
http://www.sofovich.energyproductions.tv/media/Newspots/index2.jpg
Tuesday July 08 11:44:33 2008
Re: 10 times Club
MT wrote:

> Jay L wrote:
> > Or 11 Search by
> > ===
> > Actress: Stefanie Powers
> > Description: gag
> > Hits = 11


***** Ran the same search but only 7 of those scenes are b&g scenes. Rest are "ungagged" or "no gag" entries. *****


Oh yes, I'm trying to get those all out. Take time.
Jay L
Tuesday July 08 12:34:51 2008
Re: 10 Times Club
Daneen Boone certainly made a go for 10


http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Expose-Part2.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Justine-APrivateAffair.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Justine-ExoticLiason.jpg
Tuesday July 08 12:35:55 2008
Re: 10 Times Club
> Daneen Boone certainly made a go for 10

Looking hot all the while

http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Justine-Object-Part1.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Justine-Object-Part2.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Justine-Seduction.jpg
Tuesday July 08 14:03:38 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jenni wrote:

> >>message from brian and to brian
> I received this message, claiming to be from Brian. I
> believe that it is and so want to respond. I also want
> both sides of this to be in public so there should be no
> mis-understanding.


Oh, this is getting like one of those movies - where a bit of an unhinged person starts doing things to 'help out' but starts getting too mental and then someone gets bound and gagged - I wish someone would make a movie like that!!!

To keep it on course

What are the best unhinged person goes mental films with a scene

I like Play Misty for Me and Single White Female

What are the other best examples?

Not that this means anything Brian but you do come out pretty well in the above unhinged mental email exchange!
Movie Mogul
Tuesday July 08 14:35:30 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Brian R wrote:
> > Pretty amazing, posting private email to the forum.
> > Why did I bother?


***** Why wouldn't you bother. Why was it such a secret. I for one like the fact that this is in the open. *****


See Brian's point, due to this:

***** Frankly, after 11+ years I'm pretty tired of the whole thing, but willing to stick it out for the loyal gang. *****


I guess one of loyal gang? carrying on for those 11+ figuring Brian was getting a charge out of watching the foreign scenes sent to him and this worth his time and money.

Then read the above and now realise different. Don't feel good about it at all.
Brian likely building up to relate this (diplomatically?) to me himself, now I know. Whilst don't figure the original poster's intent was to create an awkward situation, better to have asked before posting as likely that comment would have been edited out, avoiding this until prepared. Agreed?
Jay L
Tuesday July 08 14:57:53 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Movie Mogul wrote:

> Not that this means anything Brian but you do come out
> pretty well in the above unhinged mental email exchange!

Agreed, but a bit of a shame, since that would probably imply Brian ends up getting the treatment instead of Jenni....

Eric
Tuesday July 08 15:06:16 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
> What are the best unhinged person goes mental films with
a scene

I like Play Misty for Me and Single White Female

What are the other best examples?
~~~~
Sounds like the plotline of about one-third of Lifetime Movie Network's TV-movies!

E.g., "Blind Obsession" (2001); "Ties that Bind" (2006).
Kinky-napper
Tuesday July 08 15:19:01 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
> What are the best unhinged person goes mental films
> with a scene

Molly Ringwald in 'Malicious', baby. Check it out at the Video Page
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YDz9GlPfKcY/1.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YDz9GlPfKcY/2.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YDz9GlPfKcY/3.jpg
Tuesday July 08 15:30:29 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Molly Ringwald in 'Malicious', baby. Check it out at the
> Video Page

Grrr...you *just* beat me to it. :)

For purposes of clarification, that's actually Sarah Lassez in the caps you posted, though Molly "Requisite Psycho" Ringwald does get a fairly terrific handgag earlier in the film.
http://bondageparade.com/thumb/Malicious-Part1.jpg
http://bondageparade.com/thumb/Malicious-Part2.jpg
Raffish
Tuesday July 08 15:49:25 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
More nominees featuring them crazed female captors: how about Snapdragon (yay evil Pam twins!), Deadly Embrace (buxom much?), and Kelly Ripa's immortal AMC marathon at the hands of Robin Mattson (which, as a soap scene, opens up a much larger can of worms, but it's so good that I couldn't resist).

Like the thread idea, MM. Seems entirely appropriate. ;)
http://bondageparade.com/thumb/Snapdragon.jpg
http://bondageparade.com/thumb/DeadlyEmbrace.jpg
http://bondageparade.com/thumb/AllMyChildren-KRipa-Part3.jpg
Raffish
Tuesday July 08 16:07:50 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
That chick from the Sleepaway Camp films had some cute victims
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/SleepawayCampII.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/SleepawayCampIII.jpg
Tuesday July 08 16:13:25 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
Ally Sheedy had a nice encounter with one


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jqj-soTjL2Q/2.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jqj-soTjL2Q/3.jpg
Tuesday July 08 16:27:08 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
"Jude is held hostage in her own basement by a crazed Megan She chloroforms Jude (Alexz Johnson)and chains her to a post by her right ankle. Later Jude is cleave gagged with a handkerchief."


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Jenzy/is_412_09.jpg
Tuesday July 08 16:32:55 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
BLUE HEELERS 494: Too Close. Probationary Constable Kelly O'Rourke (Samantha Tolj) is being harassed by a young woman, Estelle, who is obsessed with her. At about 35 minutes (with commercials) Kelly is showering when Estelle enters her home and abducts her. When next we see the pair Estelle is wearing the cop's clothing and has dressed Kelly in an ordinary dress. Kelly is seen in a seat of an old railway carriage, a knotted cloth gag pulled through her mouth. Her wrists are (as we see later) handcuffed behind her back, presumably with her own handcuffs. She is trying to make a sound as she knows searchers are looking for her but the gag prevents her. At about 40 minutes we get a somewhat longer view of Kelly and soon after her captor pulls the gag from her mouth. But when another cop gets too close the gag is roughly forced back into place, then at about 45 minutes while Estelle is distracted, Kelly manages to escape from the railway carriage into the arms of her rescuers.


Tuesday July 08 16:35:53 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
Looney guy in Sweet Valley High got double the fun
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/SweetValleyHigh-Kidnap2.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/SweetValleyHigh-Kidnap3.jpg
Tuesday July 08 16:35:54 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
MT wrote:
> The only thing flaky here is you.

Honestly, who is this Jenni & what site is she babbling about?

MagickRat
magickrat@live.com
Tuesday July 08 16:37:54 2008
Re: Unhinged person goes mental films
> Looney guy in Sweet Valley High got double the fun

Looney lady in the SVH 'R For Revenge' book B&G a bunch of cheerleaders. Where's the TV adaptation??

http://boundunderduress.com/UnderDuress/did2/zCheerls.jpg
Tuesday July 08 16:47:26 2008
Nutsy captor
Pretty common: The Collector, Quake, the Sunday night scene on Law and Order CI, Kiss the Girls Goodbye, Eaten Alive, etc. ect. etc.
Pat Powers
Tuesday July 08 17:05:23 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jay L wrote:

> Then read the above and now realise different. Don't feel
> good about it at all.

Me neither. I would hope that most of us recognize just how much time and energy Brian has spent on keeping this place running and skillfully moderated for 11+ years. Sure, it has its perks, but having his entire site mirrored against his will for "insurance" purposes because it's supposedly "flaky" can't possibly be one of them.

Jenni: I believe you are sincere and good at heart (TM Dostoevsky), but you're hardly the first to think of this, right? Google does it, and archive.org does it, but there's a fundamental difference between them and you, e.g.

"The Internet Archive is not interested in preserving or offering access to Web sites or other Internet documents of persons who do not want their materials in the collection."

Is there something unreasonable about this, in your eyes?

Brian would prefer that you did not do what you are doing, and the fact that you can't imagine why this is reflects (IMHO) a surprising lack of imagination.

As we all know, I myself post other people's work online all the time, and I've occasionally been taken to task for it by third parties -- but if the actual copyright holders were to ask me to take those clips down, they would be down in an instant. Legal issues entirely aside, it's just a matter of courtesy. What makes you immune from this?

</rant>

P.S. Brian, I think this has come up before, but I would strongly recommend adding a robots.txt file at the root level of your server. (See http://www.robotstxt.org/robotstxt.html) Not that Jenni or anyone else needs to respect it, but it's the single most explicit statement that you can make concerning your preferences as to how external web services should treat your site.
Raffish
Tuesday July 08 17:27:08 2008
Re: Middle Man
TuxedoJarod wrote:

> I missed Middle Man last night, was there anything of
> note on the show?

no!!!
mark
Tuesday July 08 17:42:44 2008
Re: Middle Man
There was a "faux gag"
WW busted out some swear words (Yippee kay ye M!!@#$%^#&*) and they bleeped her out and covered her mouth with a black edit box.

Freeze frame that part & it is gaglike.
I still have high hopes for this show.
she is SO HOT!!
Snowcat
Tuesday July 08 17:58:05 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Raffish wrote:

> Jay L wrote:
> > Then read the above and now realise different. Don't
> feel
> > good about it at all.

> Me neither.


In for a penny, in for a pound now I guess...

You likely better in English class than myself and can compose an email better than the one I thinking of. Unprepared here.
I understand the money Brian spending along with the effort can start to turn into a tiring chore if Brian not getting anything out of it. Brian's done more than enough for me, owes me no favours, can take a break any time he wishes
But {admitted selfishly}
if can think up some inspirational comments that make going to his PO Box, or checking the page a riot for him again, gonna try it. Only fun if we're all finding humourous huh?
Problem is, see above, wording it correct.
Jay L
Tuesday July 08 18:06:17 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jay L wrote:

> In for a penny, in for a pound now I guess...
> You likely better in English class than myself and can
> compose an email better than the one I thinking of.
> Unprepared here.

Then again, I probably wouldn't have written mine if not for yours.

(Yeah, Mom was an English teacher.)
Raffish
Tuesday July 08 18:15:36 2008
Re: Nutsy captor
> Pretty common: The Collector, Quake, the Sunday night
> scene on Law and Order CI, Kiss the Girls Goodbye, Eaten
> Alive, etc. ect. etc.

More fun when the captor is female
http://www.bondageparade.com/jcap/Surrogate07.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/WwwMaedchenkillerDe.jpg
Tuesday July 08 19:31:51 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
MagickRat wrote:

> Honestly, who is this Jenni & what site is she
> babbling about?

It's all the latest free-form delusion of some douche-eater with a grudge.

There's never been any URL posted of any site.
The House of Le Bastard
Tuesday July 08 20:00:49 2008
Re: Nutsy captor
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> More fun when the captor is female

The first still is from the movie "The Surrogate", a film about a married couple that hires a sexual surrogate to resurrect their stagnant sex life. One of the surrogate's methods entails the husband returning home from work to find his beautiful blonde wife, Shannon Tweed, bound and gagged and being menaced by a seemingly crazed surrogate. Her purported madness is a behavioral affectation, however, intended to evoke an emotional response from the husband, and help restore his passion for his wife.
In the first picture, therefore, the female captor is not nuts or deranged in any way. She's simply doing her job.

Hadji
Tuesday July 08 20:27:27 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
The House of Le Bastard wrote:

> MagickRat wrote:
> > Honestly, who is this Jenni & what site is she
> > babbling about?
> It's all the latest free-form delusion of some
> douche-eater with a grudge.
> There's never been any URL posted of any site.

Don't matter anyway. Not like hers or any other site can top this one...

MagickRat
magickrat@live.com
Tuesday July 08 21:00:09 2008
Re: Viacom/YouTube
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Tuesday July 08 21:12:22 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Jay L wrote:

> Then read the above and now realise different. Don't feel
> good about it at all.

Well, sorry about that folks. That's not something I'd
ever had said to you. What's the point? I make the
decisions on how long to keep going. I would never
wanted to hurt anyone's feelings in that regard.

Don't worry about it.




Brian R
Tuesday July 08 21:23:49 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
The House of Le Bastard wrote:

> There's never been any URL posted of any site.

Just so it's clear, I haven't allowed any advertisement
of that site for some time.

Brian R
Tuesday July 08 21:32:25 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Brian R wrote:

> Well, sorry about that folks. That's not something I'd
> ever had said to you. What's the point? I make the
> decisions on how long to keep going. I would never
> wanted to hurt anyone's feelings in that regard.
> Don't worry about it.

Well, okay, but you're on probation for letting that totally inappropriate private email stand publicly and getting us all worked up.

I'm watching you, mister. One more misstep, and I'll be launching briansparade.com, which will be just like your site, but with a much prettier background.
Raffish
Tuesday July 08 21:35:37 2008
The site
As far as it being "flaky" I don't believe we've had and down-time in the past nine months since we switched hosting companies. It was getting a bit troublesome at the old one due to being on an old machine. Even then, there were just a few periods of DNS problem and a couple times files got corrupted. I have backups in place for all the messages now. Obviously, we've relied on any "insurance" from anyone else.



The Engineer
Tuesday July 08 21:50:34 2008
Nadine kruger
Anyone know where i can find the scene with nadine kruger cleave gagged from a german tv show.thanks
Tuesday July 08 22:20:50 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
Brian R wrote:

> Well, sorry about that folks. That's not something I'd
> ever had said


Huh? Why you apologising?
I was replying to unsigned poster about better to ask first before posting your email to avoid awkward situations.
I guess if had an English teacher in my family like Raffy,
you'd have got that. ;)
Jay L
Tuesday July 08 23:02:34 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian

" And to the person that said, permission was not asked. I
doubt that many of the posters here ask permission from
the rightful owners of the material and usually do not
even give attribution".

Irrelevant. If xyz steals someone's copyright, that does not give jenni the right to rip off Brian.

" At the same time I
do like insurance, I have it on my house, my car, etc".

"insurance". ha ha. Closer to extortion.
Tuesday July 08 23:17:29 2008
Re: A Message To/From Brian
The House of Le Bastard wrote:

> MagickRat wrote:
> what site
> babbling about?


***** There's never been any URL posted of any site. *****


Oh yeah. The re-directed unsigned chap
Can't really assist him till he gets back with screen-shots as none of the regular crowd appears to have the problem

I went and checked for the Brian (pyramid guy) site that used to come up with a URL typo to see if that the problem,
but that site appears to be down. You may recall he had up "This is not an SM site" and didn't have bondage caps.
So he'd obviously had a few of our lot arrive at his site by mistake. Will see..

Btw: Hope pyramid Brian down temporarily. Tempted to ask him about his no bondage caps here with "Why not?". ;)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Tuesday July 08 23:28:09 2008
Re: High School Musical 3
The House of Le Bastard wrote:

> Someone on the video page speculated about a scene in
> this movie.


that would be me! Lets hope and pray!

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