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Friday August 22 03:01:08 2008
Raffish DiDClips updated
Off to the desert for my annual festival pilgrimage, but would I leave without delivering an update first? Of course not!
http://www.bondageparade.com/dl/update.jpg
Raffish
raffish@bondageparade.com
http://www.bondageparade.com/
Friday August 22 04:54:31 2008
Re: Raffish DiDClips updated
Raffish wrote:

> Off to the desert for my annual festival pilgrimage, but
> would I leave without delivering an update first? Of
> course not!

Nice update Raffish. I must have completely missed the Holly Hunter one. Never knew she got gagged, two different ways no less. I always kind of dug her. She's so feisty for a 4'11" munchkin (listed in IMDB as 5'2", but I'm not buying it -- hehe). A fine actress as well. Thanks a lot!
Wavy
verywavy@yahoo.com
Friday August 22 07:16:07 2008
Re: Raffish DiDClips updated
Raffish wrote:
> Off to the desert for my annual festival pilgrimage, but
> would I leave without delivering an update first? Of
> course not!

Thanks again, Raffish, for your generosity. I viewed most of the clips, and noticed something I hadn't noticed before. In the clip featuring Daneen Boone in one of her Justime movies, she is initially gagged with a red cloth that is knotted in her mouth. In a subsequent scene, the knot in the gag is behind her head. This is an egregious gag continuity problem.
Hadji
Friday August 22 07:22:18 2008
Re: Raffish DiDClips updated
Raffish wrote:
> Off to the desert for my annual festival pilgrimage, but
> would I leave without delivering an update first? Of
> course not!

I also noted that, in the clip from the movie "Phantasm II", Paula Irvine is restrained by straps across her upper chest and legs. Her wrists aren't secured in any way. She is gagged with gauze and surgical tape, and her gag could be pretty easily removed by her reaching for it with one of her unrestrained hands.

Hadji
Friday August 22 07:27:32 2008
Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
I watched a clip from this movie, which dates back to 1968, and saw that the actress is gagged with DUCT TAPE. This may be the earliest use of duct tape to gag an actress in a movie or television program; I recall reading on this message board that the first recorded use was during the 1980s.
It is my understanding that before the 1980s, white surgical tape was used to gag actresses; duct tape, though it was available, was almost never utilized for this purpose. Does anyone know why?
Hadji
Friday August 22 07:57:36 2008
Re: Gag Talk for Comic Effect
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> It's from Another World, Nancy Frangione

That's it exactly! Thanks!

Slae
Friday August 22 08:58:28 2008
Beauty Contest
Don't know if anyone knows The Opie & Anthony show radio show but they are running a beauty contest and while they are having an in-studio contest, they asked the women to submit a picture.

Go to this link: http://www.923krock.com/pages/2165742.php
and scroll down until you see Kiara M (half way down). You will be very surprised and happy!
BronxTies
bronxties@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BronxTies/
Friday August 22 09:15:29 2008
UK Transmission: "Don't Die Young"
A nice little surprise in Dr Alice's "Don't Die Young" on BBC2 last night.

In a documentary dealing with the immune system, the comely redhead took part without prior warning in a test designed to "scare her witless".

She had to abseil from the very high ceiling of a concert hall and, as the supervising instructor said, "For a little bit of extra spice we're going to tie your hands!" She went almost white. There were shots of Alice's wrists being securely bound to the abseil rope in front of her, and looking down from a helmet cam as she descended almost in free fall, stopping a few feet from the floor.

The sound track of her descent began with "Ohhh ShBLEEP!", followed by a longer "Bleep" that lasted most of the way down. If they'd known she was going to swear, perhaps they should have gagged her, too.

As expected, the test produced a massive rise in Alice's white blood cell count.

The whole show was very interesting and entertaining, and Alice is a delightful presenter.

The show is repeated in Sign Zone on Monday 25th August, at 2.15 am on BBC1. That's actually Tuesday morning, but listed in Monday's programming. It should be interesting to see if the signing interpreter makes anything of Dr R's exclamations. :-)
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Friday August 22 09:51:14 2008
Re: UK Transmission: "Don't Die Young"
If you're in the UK you can capture it off the BBC Web site for the next 6 days

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006s6v6/comingup

And if you're really nice, you can repost it for the rest of us :-)
Eric
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006s6v6/comingup
Friday August 22 13:49:52 2008
Re: Raffish DiDClips updated
Hadji wrote:

> Thanks again, Raffish, for your generosity. I viewed most
> of the clips, and noticed something I hadn't noticed
> before. In the clip featuring Daneen Boone in one of her
> Justime movies, she is initially gagged with a red cloth
> that is knotted in her mouth. In a subsequent scene, the
> knot in the gag is behind her head. This is an egregious
> gag continuity problem.

It's actually even more egregious than that. I never noticed the difference in the knot and therefore didn't mention it in the DB entry, but there's an entire segment between the knot-in-front and knot-in-back shots during which the gag disappears entirely. (I didn't include this part in my clip, presumably because the shots are short and faded montage-style into a scene that focuses mainly on the sex which is going on across the room. If I were to remake the clip these many years later, I'd probably leave it in.) There are exterior "passage of time" shots between the three segments which make it plausible that Justine's captors could have re-gagged her after getting their coital jollies, but no explanation is given for why they would have ungagged her in the first place. ("I'll be right back to finish you off, honey, but she just looks so SAD with that scarf in her mouth.")

Then again, if you're looking for things like continuity or, you know, halfway decent acting, what are you doing watching softcore silliness like "Justine" in the first place? At least everyone involved with that series appears to recognize on some level that the entire enterprise is completely absurd, so they do their ethical duty and play it for camp value. (Look up "Lemon Tree Whore" on YouTube for the funniest example of this phenomenon I've seen to date.)
Raffish
Friday August 22 15:49:20 2008
No release
Does anyone know about scenes in which a character is bound and gagged, but their release is never shown? Like the men and women that were briefly shown bound and tape gagged in the closet in D.E.B.S? I would really appreciate any info.
Danny
Danny
Friday August 22 16:43:52 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
I don't know why they did that, but I do know that for that particular scene, it didn't look like the tape was very secure, just look at this cap!
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3987/newbitmapimagecq1.jpg
Friday August 22 16:53:54 2008
Re: No release
Danny wrote:

> Does anyone know about scenes in which a character is
> bound and gagged, but their release is never shown?

Kelly Hu in the last ep of series 1, Martial Law. She is captured by baddies, carried off B&G in a helicopter, and reappears at the start of the next season as if nothing had happened.

Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Friday August 22 16:59:48 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I don't know why they did that, but I do know that for
> that particular scene, it didn't look like the tape was
> very secure, just look at this cap!

If this is the first use of duct tape for gagging, it's also the first case of the Great Application Error: put it on with the top edge straight and level and the bottom edge will be loose! Human faces TAPER, guys.

The tape should be applied first at the centre, pressed home, then smoothed out sideways for maximum adhesion. If it slopes up slightly onto the cheeks, it's been put on properly.

Mad Dan
Friday August 22 17:33:05 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
Hadji wrote:

> I watched a clip from this movie, which dates back to
> 1968, and saw that the actress is gagged with DUCT TAPE.
> This may be the earliest use of duct tape to gag an
> actress in a movie or television program; I recall
> reading on this message board that the first recorded use
> was during the 1980s.

Sounds like a potential first for my chart if we can get confirmation. Or even if we can't we could use it as a starting point and see if anything earlier shows up.
Pat Powers
Friday August 22 17:42:20 2008
Re: Beauty Contest
BronxTies wrote:

> Don't know if anyone knows The Opie & Anthony show
> radio show but they are running a beauty contest ...
> and scroll down until you see Kiara M (half way down)....

Nice find; I tried looking her up to see if she was a 'pro' (model) or myspace but no luck. A lot of similar goth chicks tend to post a number of good BIEL type photos even when the bondage itself is pretty lame.


Captureher
Friday August 22 17:44:02 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
Mad Dan wrote:

> Human faces TAPER, guys.

Is that why they call it TAPE?
Pat Powers
Friday August 22 18:18:46 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
Pat Powers wrote:

> Mad Dan wrote:
> > Human faces TAPER, guys.
> Is that why they call it TAPE?

LOL. Could be, Pat, though I can't find any etymological connection. Fwiw, tape is older than taper.

Tape'er up, lads!
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Friday August 22 18:38:50 2008
You're Under Arrest
Loved the cute Japanese damsel in the latest Raffish update.But it drives me mad when they put blokes in with the DID.I hate it! Still,the lovely actress was worth seeing B&G.I hope there's more scenes,and I have to admit,she looked cute in her police uniform!
David
Friday August 22 18:43:04 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
Pat Powers wrote:
> Hadji wrote:
> I watched a clip from this movie, which dates back
> to 1968, and saw that the actress is gagged with DUCT
> TAPE.
> This may be the earliest use of duct tape to gag an
> actress in a movie or television program; I recall
> reading on this message board that the first
> recorded use was during the 1980s.
> Sounds like a potential first for my chart if we can get
> confirmation. Or even if we can't we could use it as a
> starting point and see if anything earlier shows up.

Duct tape became commercially available during the 1940s, yet wasn't used on a large scale to gag actresses until the mid- to late 1980s. Nowadays, it is ubiquitous, and is almost always the gag if choice if a script calls for an actress to be gagged. White tape, which is what was typically used until the early 1980s to gag actresses, is almost never seen nowadays. Does anyone know why? I vaguely recall someone answering this question a few years ago, but don't remember what he said. Did the cost of duct tape decrease to the extent that it supplanted white tape?
Hadji
Friday August 22 19:56:58 2008
Re: Beauty Contest
BronxTies wrote:
... The Opie & Anthony show
radio show but they are running a beauty contest and
while they are having an in-studio contest, they asked
the women to submit a picture
...
http://www.923krock.com/pages/2165742.php
and scroll down until you see Kiara M
...

http://imgsrv.923krock.com/image/DbLiteGraphic/200805/2491930.jpg
Ric h
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Friday August 22 20:34:00 2008
The Doc from Youtube is gone...
This post was moved to The Video Page.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Friday August 22 22:05:09 2008
Re: Finders Keepers, Lovers Weepers
Mad Dan wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > I don't know why they did that, but I do know that
> for
> > that particular scene, it didn't look like the tape
> was
> > very secure, just look at this cap!

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but common duct tape is pretty easily loosened just by the moisture from a damsel's breath not to mention saliva and sweat as well. Wrap arounds don't suffer this problem as much. No matter how well it is applied, it will loosen up unless it is made with industrial strength adhesive. Probably explains why we see so many loose tape gags in films and tv.
Friday August 22 22:20:37 2008
Crazy for Love
Saw this title in Blockbuster tonight.
Movie called Crazy for Love has a photo of
Natasha Lyonne wearing a straightjacket on the cover.
Back cover has a pic of her dangling by one roped leg from
the gondola of a hot air balloon.
Original title was My Suicidal Sweetheart.
Haven't rented it, but one to check for.
http://images.blockbuster.com/is/bb/title/401443.jpeg
MT

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