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Tuesday June 03 00:04:29 2008
Pecados Ajenos
In the scene with Lorena Rojas, Is she tied hands behind or is she tied hands in front? Also, from what you saw do you think it will be a long scene? Because her last scene from Ladron De Corrazon was a total bust.
J. Bauer
Tuesday June 03 00:24:17 2008
Re: Waking Up
Also don't forget one of my favorite scenes...the beautiful Charisma Carpenter waking up completely bound and gagged for the first time in the "Parting Gifts" epidsode of Angel. I love the way she struggles with that tight white cleave gag when she first wakes up from being knocked by the demon.

Can anyone out there please post any caps???
Paco The Bandit
Tuesday June 03 00:37:22 2008
Re: Get Smart
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I saw that promo and slowed it down frame by frame.
> Hathaway and her hands in two black harness type objects.
> They look to be made of rope.


Saw the commercial, appears wrists tied to back seat coat hook
Jay L
Tuesday June 03 00:38:07 2008
Blog Update
I used to think that gags were appearance-neutral -- if a woman is beautiful she looks good gagged as well as ungagged, and if a woman is not beautiful ...

The "Limelight" ep of Criminal Minds has convinced me differently. A gag can dramatically alter a woman's appearance for the worse as well as for the better. The "Limelight" ep demonstrates the "worst" case scenario for guest star Andrea Roth. And I've got the caps to prove it.
Pat Powers
http://politicallysexy.blogspot.com
Tuesday June 03 00:50:37 2008
Re: 'Durham County'
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Let's hope they start with a gagged damsel


Missed the start of that one where they find the gal in the barn? or whatever.. but I figure a gag scene coming in this
Jay L
Tuesday June 03 00:54:08 2008
Re: Blog Update
Pat Powers wrote:

> A gag can dramatically alter a
> woman's appearance for the worse


Ooooh..Your blog is about to get interesting ;)
Jay L
Tuesday June 03 00:57:06 2008
Re: Bloody reunion
civil wrote:

> I haven't inputed it yet since I keep forgetting it. Darn
> thing is in Korean with English subititles.


Blixen?, Guest? provided some great sites for that. I'll get you the links
Jay L
Tuesday June 03 01:26:46 2008
Re: Waking Up
Paco The Bandit wrote:

> Can anyone out there please post any caps???

Please post requests to the Trade or Video pages.

The Moderator
Tuesday June 03 06:20:03 2008
Pecados Ajenos
Thanks for the alert, "Dextor"!
Guest
Tuesday June 03 06:52:32 2008
Re: Blog Update
Pat Powers wrote:

> The "Limelight" ep of Criminal Minds has

Just a heads up, on your blog you mention several times that the name of the series is CSI: Criminal Minds, when in fact Criminal Minds is not related to the CSI family of shows.
X
Tuesday June 03 08:34:41 2008
Good News Week - Jo Stanley
Australian panel comedy show from Monday night this week. Jo Stanley handcuffs herself around 1/4 to 1/3 the way into the show and remains that way for the rest of the episode. The show can be viewed at the link below - the episode in question is episode 14.
Ham Roll
http://ten.com.au/ten/gnw-video.html
Tuesday June 03 11:00:04 2008
Re: Blog Update
Jay L wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
> > A gag can dramatically alter a
> > woman's appearance for the worse
> Ooooh..Your blog is about to get interesting ;)

Ah. So it wasn't interesting until now. I see.

;>
Pat Powers
Tuesday June 03 11:01:14 2008
Re: Blog Update
X wrote:

> in fact Criminal Minds is not related to the CSI family
> of shows.

Thanks, I'll get that fixed.
Pat Powers
Tuesday June 03 11:41:19 2008
Re: Blog Update
> convinced me differently. A gag can dramatically alter a
> woman's appearance for the worse as well as for the
> better.

Usually for the better
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/Counterstrike-TheHit.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/SimonAndSimon-MummyTalks.jpg
Tuesday June 03 12:42:32 2008
Re: Blog Update
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > convinced me differently. A gag can dramatically
> alter a
> > woman's appearance for the worse as well as for the
> > better.
> Usually for the better

Sure, they look hot in the gags, but that's because we like gags. They look pretty damn hot without them, too.

Pat Powers
Tuesday June 03 13:32:50 2008
Re: Blog Update
Pat Powers wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > > convinced me differently. A gag can
> dramatically
> > alter a
> > > woman's appearance for the worse as well as for
> the
> > > better.

Justina Vail's multiple scenes on Seven Days convinced me that a gag can make a otherwise beautiful girl look ugly. Which is too bad, because she had so many on that show.
SLJ
Tuesday June 03 13:48:51 2008
Re: Blog Update
> Justina Vail's multiple scenes on Seven Days convinced me
> that a gag can make a otherwise beautiful girl look ugly.
> Which is too bad, because she had so many on that show.

She wasn't that beautiful
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/SevenDays-LastCardUp.jpg
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/777346.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB9C744A8FC2472187284831B75F48EF45
Tuesday June 03 14:18:22 2008
Re: Blog Update
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > Justina Vail's multiple scenes on Seven Days convinced me
> > that a gag can make a otherwise beautiful girl look ugly.
> > Which is too bad, because she had so many on that show.
>
> She wasn't that beautiful

Sweet Gwendoline! Talk about beauty being in the eye of the beholder... *I* think she's gorgeous (but then, I usually go for the non-Classic types, *especially* if they're redheads). ;-)

http://www.vidiot.com/UPN/SD/images/7Days-Cast2000js.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Tuesday June 03 14:27:41 2008
late alert -- Thunder and Lightning
"Thunder and Lightning" (Kate Jackson bound and gagged) is on right now on Fox Movie Channel (FMC). I have posted an alert on the VCR alerts page. I don't know the scene time and the database entry does not provide it either.
Tapemaster
Tuesday June 03 14:38:43 2008
Re: Blog Update
> Sure, they look hot in the gags, but that's because we
> like gags. They look pretty damn hot without them, too.

What's better with a gag - appearance or effectiveness?
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/AllMyChildren-KRipa-Part3.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj193/jorgeq13/DiDTaped03.jpg
Tuesday June 03 14:42:25 2008
Re: late alert -- Thunder and Lightning
Tapemaster wrote:

> "Thunder and Lightning" (Kate Jackson bound and
> gagged) is on right now on Fox Movie Channel (FMC). I
> have posted an alert on the VCR alerts page. I don't know
> the scene time and the database entry does not provide it
> either.

The scene just ended. Sorry that I didn't know about it earlier. For further reference, the scene starts about a half hour into the movie.

Tapemaster
Tuesday June 03 14:47:49 2008
Re: late alert -- Thunder and Lightning
> The scene just ended. Sorry that I didn't know about it
> earlier.

No great loss
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/ThunderAndLightning.jpg
Tuesday June 03 14:52:08 2008
Re: late alert -- Thunder and Lightning
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>> No great loss
>
I love Kate Jackson, but agree that scene is not that good. Don't like the gag or her hairstyle.

Now "Scarecrow & Mrs. King," much better.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4076/scarecrowcollagecr7.jpg
Tuesday June 03 15:19:26 2008
Re: late alert -- Thunder and Lightning
> I love Kate Jackson,

Hard to believe she never had a scene in 'The Rookies'

10. To Taste or Terror (airdate: Nov. 20, 1972).
A routine arrest leads to terror when the suspect’ s brother seeks revenge. His target: a rookie cop’s wife. Mike testifies against the thief and Jill is kidnapped.


http://the-rookies.com/jackson74.jpg
Tuesday June 03 15:24:59 2008
Re: late alert -- Thunder and Lightning
> Hard to believe she never had a scene in 'The Rookies'

81. Reluctant Hero (airdate: Nov. 25, 1975).
A rookie accidentally overpowers a professional assassin and is named “hero”. The assassin vows to kill the rookie and escapes with Jill as a hostage, offering to exchange her for the rookie.

92. Journey to Oblivion (airdate: Mar.30, 1976).
The last episode of The Rookies series. A gambler kills his creditor and is witnessed by Jill Danko whom he and his accomplice must now do away with. Another "Rescue Jill" episode.

69. Nightmare (airdate: Mar. 17, 1975). (View Screen Captures)
An injured Jill becomes the prisoner of a disturbed man, who claims to be a doctor, after being involved in a car accident on a stormy night. Kate Jackson is the main role in this excellent "Rescue Jill" episode

35. Lots of Trees and a Running Stream (airdate: Dec. 3, 1973)
When Mike is out of town, the unexpected appearance of a former lover creates a living nightmare for Jill Danko. Believing he may be suffering from a terminal illness, she hesitantly becomes involved. She only slowly comes to realize how far the man will go to claim her once again. This is one of the so-called "Rescue Jill" episodes.

28. Get Ryker (airdate: Oct. 8,1973).
After Lt. Ryker is injured by an ex-prisoner out for revenge, Jill is assigned to protect him. When her life is threatened, Ryker takes matters into his own hands.

http://www.kate-jackson.com/rookies_dvd.jpg
Tuesday June 03 16:40:35 2008
Re: Waking Up
Paco The Bandit wrote:

...Charisma Carpenter waking up completely bound
> and gagged for the first time in the "Parting
> Gifts" epidsode of Angel...
> Can anyone out there please post any caps???

Hey Paco, check the Trades page...

MagickRat
magickrat@live.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/didclips/
Tuesday June 03 17:40:44 2008
Re: Blog Update
Van wrote:


> *I* think she's gorgeous (but then, I
> usually go for the non-Classic types, *especially* if
> they're redheads). ;-)

I'm right there with you as usual Buddy.
I thought she an amazing beauty, both gagged & not.
Snowcat
Tuesday June 03 19:05:48 2008
Re: Gags altering a woman's appearance for better as well as for worse
> > > A gag can dramatically alter a woman's appearance for the worse as well as for the better.
> > > >
> > Usually for the better
>
> Sure, they look hot in the gags, but that's because we
like gags. They look pretty damn hot without them, too.
~~~~~
Being a "Gag-snob" (aka, "Gag-purist") it's obvious where my preference lies.

Still, I'm reminded of a response by a noted person within the commercial bondage industry on the most important quality for a bondage model, and his/her surprising answer was "She must look good in a ballgag".

I can't help but wonder if this is one (minor) reason that ballgags are seldom seen in mainstream media -- they're even rare in Horror/Slasher "Z-movie" films. It's quite likely that many, if not most, mainstream actresses photograph better wearing a thin cleave or silver duct tape, regardless of whether the audience has to "suspend disbelief" on their relative effectiveness.

E.g., I'm thinking of the few examples in the Scene Database with ballgags, and while the ballgags were sometimes the "wrong size" for the wearer, I'd have to concede that the actresses (two of whom were former Playboy Playmates-of-the-Month) are probably more "attractive" without their ballgags.

Kinky-napper
Tuesday June 03 20:38:05 2008
Fear Itself head's up
Don't know if this has been mentioned but NBC starts a new series of (13) horror films this Thursday night, "a new movie every week." They appear to be first run and a softer Tv version of Showtime's Masters of Horror; from Lionsgate with some name directors and actors, including Stuart Gordon of Re-Animator). Pilot preview on the website shows a couple of hotties in the premire but no hint of a scene, I saw no other trailers or previews from any other installment, just what's running on the NBC commercial.
http://www.nbc.com/Fear_Itself/index.shtml

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