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Tuesday May 18 00:36:54 2004
touching evil
anyone actually catch that tonight it sounded kind of interesting i belive it was on the usa network
erna33
Tuesday May 18 00:45:32 2004
Choice of gags
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I missed it. Do you think when an actress has to be gagged in a movie or tv. show they can request a cloth gag or tape? Can they ask for the gag to be tied OTM or request a cleave? Do you think if a major star requested to be gagged with cloth rather than tape they would listen?
Ron
Tuesday May 18 01:48:04 2004
Re: touching evil
erna33 wrote:

> anyone actually catch that tonight it sounded kind of
> interesting i belive it was on the usa network

Nothing in the episode except what was shown in the preview. Bad guy tapes her wrists and starts taping her ankles when he's pounded from behind by rescuer. Another in a long line of short scenes shown in promos that don't show anything else ("She-Spies twice, "Division").
Tuesday May 18 04:00:50 2004
TJ H
The most anticipated B&G scene in TV history?
http://bindher.com/vidsdids/features/tjhookerc01.jpg
Tuesday May 18 04:57:42 2004
Willard in Japanese with snakes?
I am looking for the name of a movie I saw once. I think it was Japanese or Hong Kong. It was kind of a rip-off of "Willard". Except the guy had pet snakes instead of pet rats. He lived in the sewers I think. He did capture at least one woman and had her tied up in his lair. Anyone else heard of this movie. I wish I had made a been able to make a copy when I saw it.
Chas
Tuesday May 18 05:18:16 2004
Re: Willard in Japanese with snakes?
Chas wrote:

> I am looking for the name of a movie I saw once. I think
> it was Japanese or Hong Kong. It was kind of a rip-off of
> "Willard". Except the guy had pet snakes
> instead of pet rats. He lived in the sewers I think. He
> did capture at least one woman and had her tied up in his
> lair. Anyone else heard of this movie. I wish I had made
> a been able to make a copy when I saw it.

The film is the Shaw Brothers' KILLER SNAKES. I think it
used to be available from Something Weird, but it's not
listed on their web site now. A reportedly more complete
edition was released on a Region 3 DVD by Intercontinental
Video. It's available from Poker Industries (I've never
ordered from this company, so don't construe this as an
endorsement):
http://www.pokerindustries.com/


Greg
gb9304@yahoo.com
http://greggerbits.tripod.com
Tuesday May 18 06:19:06 2004
Re: Willard in Japanese with snakes?
Greg wrote:

> The film is the Shaw Brothers' KILLER SNAKES.
>

Yes thats it. Thanks. It is also available from:
http://www.hkflix.com/

I have never ordered from either one, but the mail-order video club I use, GreenCine.com, does buy from HKFlix.

BTW GreenCine has a lot of non-mainstream DVD's for rent including many of the 'mainstream' classic BD movies. I have rented 'Ginger', and 'Girls Are For Loving' from them among many others. I have not been able to get 'The Abductors' yet because it is more popular. But it is in my queue.

Chas
Tuesday May 18 09:00:07 2004
Whither hentai
Brian R:

In your thread on possible changes to the scope of the discussion board, I brought up the issue of hentai as an acceptable topic, but it was never responded to (I did a search for "hentai" so I'm pretty sure on this point.) What's your opinion on this point?
Pat Powers
Tuesday May 18 11:28:05 2004
Colonial House
On tonite's ep it looks like a young girl has a rope tied around her foot attached to a stake in the ground. Unfortunately thats a far cry from brank gags but oh well...
Tuesday May 18 12:04:44 2004
MORIR DE VECES scene under way
I caught the last few minutes of today's MORIR DE VECES soap on Univision (airing 10 a.m. CST), and the kidnapping plot line is under way. She's laying on a bed with her wrists tied behind her, ungagged, as her captor lords it over her. I don't know whether she was gagged earlier in the hour or not, obviously, but the previews for tomorrow's show had a recap of today's action, which showed her being handgagged during the initial stages of the kidnapping. Story line should continue for a while from what I understood from previous posts.
KEVIN
Tuesday May 18 12:17:49 2004
Re: Whither hentai
Pat Powers wrote:

> Brian R:
>
> In your thread on possible changes to the scope of the
> discussion board, I brought up the issue of hentai as an
> acceptable topic, but it was never responded to (I did a
> search for "hentai" so I'm pretty sure on this
> point.) What's your opinion on this point?

I wouldn't *presume* to answer *for* Brian, but thought I'd ante in my two cents, perhaps to reframe the question. We all know that certain things are off limits, chief among them "Commercial Videos" (meaning non-mainstream fetish videos.) Also off-limits are any mention of a damsel's age & posting images of nudity. So... within those bounds, isn't Hentai already "allowed?" Of course, beyond lists of favorite titles, I don't see what there is to "discuss."
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Tuesday May 18 12:18:46 2004
Re: TJ H
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The most anticipated B&G scene in TV history?
>
I didn't start watching "Hooker" for bondage scenes until the "Bloodsport" promo, but if I did, that would have caught my attention.

Speaking of Heather Locklear, she's starring in a new NBC series in the fall called "LAX," where Heather runs a security team at the airport. Will air after "Las Vegas" on Mondays at 10 p.m. Talk about the possibilities?
Tuesday May 18 13:02:50 2004
Re: Whither hentai
> I wouldn't *presume* to answer *for* Brian, but thought
> I'd ante in my two cents, perhaps to reframe the
> question. We all know that certain things are off
> limits, chief among them "Commercial Videos"
> (meaning non-mainstream fetish videos.) Also off-limits
> are any mention of a damsel's age & posting images of
> nudity. So... within those bounds, isn't Hentai already
> "allowed?" Of course, beyond lists of favorite
> titles, I don't see what there is to "discuss."
> http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/

Nothing to discuss? Clearly, you have not seen a lot of adult anime. I commend you to the reviews at my homepage link. I particularly commend you to Imma Youjo 2 and 4, The Slave Warrior Maya and Fallen Angel Rina operations of Cool Devices, Wordworth, Dragon Pink and Stainless Nights. Then tell me there is nothing to discuss about them.
Pat Powers
http://www.jollyroper.com/hentai/reviews/reviews.html
Tuesday May 18 15:55:04 2004
Re: Gor
Pat Powers wrote:

Not to be critical Pat - but unless I'm VERY uninformed - 99% of the readers have never even heard of 'GOR' - including myself - you refer to these scenes as if commonplace - this is obviously a fixation for yourself but everyone else just shrugs in confusion, I'm sure.
Suggestion:
Explain the background to this series - bottom line is I'VE never heard of it AND I've been around the block a few times.
Major John
Tuesday May 18 16:05:38 2004
General Hospital
What happened with "Skye" (Robin Christopher) today?
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Tuesday May 18 16:15:32 2004
Re: Gor
Major John wrote:

> Pat Powers
> Explain the background to this series - bottom line is
> I'VE never heard of it

Major,
there was a CITY channel- SexTV show episode about this.
Show Off-Topic here, will post about it over on Anything Goes Page,
{Search Discussion}
Jay L
Tuesday May 18 16:39:50 2004
Re: Gor
Major John wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
>
> Not to be critical Pat - but unless I'm VERY uninformed -
> 99% of the readers have never even heard of 'GOR' -
> including myself -

Major, you may be confusing two of Pat's subjects.

It's true that a lot of Americans aren't familiar with the Japanese animation/comic book stuff (often referred to as "manga"; "hentai" is manga with adults-only content).

But I'd be VERY surprised if most of us here weren't familiar with John Norman's Gor paperback series.

For those who aren't, it's a series of sword and sandal type adventures set on an Earth-like planet, where women are routinely bought and sold as slaves.

The first half-dozen titles in the series make casual reference to that, and most have a good bondage scene or two.

#7, "Captive of Gor" (linked here from Amazon.com) blew it all wide open-- it's decidedly mainstream, but it's a full-scale bondage adventure story, of a woman kidnapped from our Earth to become a slave on Gor.

The success of this book embarrassed the hell out of Ballantine, and the then-new DAW sci-fi imprint picked up the series, which continued for another dozen or so books, with the theme of male domination of women taking up more and more pages (though they still usually had a few good bondage scenes in them, as well).

The Internet is full of sites relating to the Gorean "lifestyle", and it does seem to attract more women readers than you might imagine.

Norman was, essentially, blacklisted for years, but has recently returned to the series (I've not read the newest volume).

The books are certainly "mainstream"-- as I say, the first few are decent (if turgidly-written) sci-fantasy adventures, which had their adherents long before he brought bondage to the fore.

Link to "Captive of Gor":

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345341996/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-2216245-7995842?v=glance&s=books
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Tuesday May 18 16:41:06 2004
Re: Gor
There were also a couple of direct-to-video (IIRC) Gor films that almost eliminated the bondage/slavery content. Pat's railed against those for years.
Jeb
Tuesday May 18 17:11:21 2004
Re: Whither hentai
>>>>>I particularly commend you to Imma Youjo 2 and 4,
The Slave Warrior Maya and Fallen Angel Rina operations
of Cool Devices, Wordworth, Dragon Pink and Stainless Nights.<<<<<<

Nice list, but if you're talking Hentai videos with bondage, the first two Angel Of Darkness vids still stand out as the standard by which all others are judged.


The Greyman
Tuesday May 18 17:24:45 2004
GH Skye's gag
Skye was still gagged for the first half of the show. 3 scenes today with gag, but she managed to untie herself and pull the gag out of her mouth. Hopefully she'll be gagged again. If this story lasts very long I'm sure she will be.
Ron
Tuesday May 18 18:01:12 2004
Re: Whither hentai
Pat Powers wrote:

> > {Snip} ...isn't Hentai already
> > "allowed?" Of course, beyond lists of favorite
> > titles, I don't see what there is to "discuss."
> > http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
>
> Nothing to discuss? Clearly, you have not seen a lot of
> adult anime. I commend you to the reviews at my homepage
> link. I particularly commend you to Imma Youjo 2 and 4,
> The Slave Warrior Maya and Fallen Angel Rina operations
> of Cool Devices, Wordworth, Dragon Pink and Stainless Nights. Then tell me there is nothing to discuss about them.

This may highlight the occasional difficulties I have with Mr. Moderator. By "discuss" I mean engage in an exchange of ideas---Discourse---Give & take---*More* than just sharing information that's little removed from data. "The third tied-like-a-pretzel-for-the-ol'-in-&-out-scene in "Stainless Angel Knights-II" was really cool" may be about as scintillating as we can get with this stuff. Of course, there *are* debates about which titles are "Hentai" & which are "Adult Anime." ;-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Tuesday May 18 19:05:19 2004
Re: Whither hentai
Pat Powers wrote:
> I commend you to the reviews at my homepage
> link ... Then tell me there is nothing to discuss about them.

Is hentai worthy of discussion? Yes, somewhere but not here. I checked out your site, and am convinced now more than ever that hentai has no place on a mainstream DiD board.

By the way, has anyone come across any more talk, and preferably photos, from the upcoming Kate Hudson horror flick where she said she spent much of her shoot tied up and gagged?
Lord Zoltar
Tuesday May 18 19:07:33 2004
Re: MORIR DE VECES scene under way
KEVIN wrote:

> I caught the last few minutes of today's MORIR DE VECES
> soap on Univision (airing 10 a.m. CST), and the
> kidnapping plot line is under way. She's laying on a bed
> with her wrists tied behind her, ungagged, as her captor
> lords it over her. I don't know whether she was gagged
> earlier in the hour or not,

She was bound and gagged in the back of a van around the 48 minute mark after initially being captured, with a strong hand over the mouth, around the 34 minute mark.

This probably corresponds to DB record number 4521 as she was gagged with a red cloth in the back of a van (db says mini-van).

With this scene and the continuance of the "La Nina De Mis Ojos" scene I posted about yesterday, this morning was a good one for the telenovelas on the Spanish language channels.

Philly Ed
Tuesday May 18 19:29:32 2004
Re: Whither hentai
Lord Zoltar wrote:


>
> By the way, has anyone come across any more talk, and
> preferably photos, from the upcoming Kate Hudson horror
> flick where she said she spent much of her shoot tied up and gagged?

That one will be a long wait. Shooting just started in April and the release date isn't until early 2005. Hopefully, when the official Web site is up something will turn up.

Tuesday May 18 20:26:01 2004
Re: Whither hentai
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Lord Zoltar wrote:
>
>
> >
> > By the way, has anyone come across any more talk,
> and
> > preferably photos, from the upcoming Kate Hudson
> horror
> > flick where she said she spent much of her shoot
> tied up and gagged?
>


According to the IMDB, she's got a film coming up called "Skeleton Key" in 2005. It's listed as a thriller.
John Quincannon
Tuesday May 18 20:29:59 2004
Another possibility
This probably was mentioned, but Elisha Cuthbert (my current favorite blonde) is in the upcoming pseudo-remake of House of Wax coming out this fall. Since the earlier versions had scenes, perhaps this one will deliver, too.
Todd 3D
todd3d@yahoo.com
http://anuvids.com
Tuesday May 18 20:35:49 2004
Re: Choice of gags
Ron wrote:

> I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I missed
> it. Do you think when an actress has to be gagged in a
> movie or tv. show they can request a cloth gag or tape?
> Can they ask for the gag to be tied OTM or request a
> cleave? Do you think if a major star requested to be
> gagged with cloth rather than tape they would listen?

It hasn't been discussed, because no one here has any
idea. It would all be pure speculation and off-topic.

Mostly, why would you care?


The Moderator
Tuesday May 18 20:48:02 2004
Re: Colonial House
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> On tonite's ep it looks like a [inappropriate age
> refererence] has a rope
> tied around her foot attached to a stake in the ground.
> Unfortunately thats a far cry from brank gags but oh
> well...

I deleted your post for the reason that should be obvious
in the quote above.



The Moderator
Tuesday May 18 20:51:16 2004
Re: Whither hentai
Van wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:

> [Hentai]

> So... within those bounds, isn't Hentai already
> "allowed?"

To the best of my knowledge I haven't ruled against
any such posts that stayed within the usual guidlines.

> Of course, beyond lists of favorite
> titles, I don't see what there is to "discuss."

One could carefully discuss some of the setups and
bondage and whatnot. Obviously not the aspects that
makes it hentai.


The Moderator
Tuesday May 18 20:55:33 2004
Re: Whither hentai
Van wrote:


> This may highlight the occasional difficulties I have
> with Mr. Moderator. By "discuss" I mean engage
> in an exchange of ideas---Discourse---Give &
> take---*More* than just sharing information that's little
> removed from data.

That all depends on what you want to discuss and how it
pertains to scenes within the work.

There is another forum for other things.

The Moderator
Tuesday May 18 21:00:31 2004
Re: Gor
Jeb wrote:

> But I'd be VERY surprised if most of us here weren't
> familiar with John Norman's Gor paperback series.

And if you're not, I'd highly recommend tracking some of them down. Some are better than others... the best ones (IMO) are the ones written in first person from the damsel's POV. "Slave Girl of Gor" is a definite favorite.
CollectorX
http://gagsnroses.tripod.com/
Tuesday May 18 22:39:45 2004
Re: Choice of gags
The Moderator wrote:

> Ron wrote:
>
> > I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I
> missed
it. Do you think when an actress has to be gagged in
a
movie or tv. show they can request a cloth gag or
tape?

I think I can settle this one once and for all Mr Moderator - from experience - they couldn't care less.




Major John
Tuesday May 18 23:53:53 2004
24
anything happen on "24" tonite? I forgot all about it.

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