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Tuesday June 29 00:02:21 2004
Re: The Division - tonight
does anyone have a video of this scene?

Bowers
Tuesday June 29 00:27:10 2004
Spider-Man 2
The lowdown on Kirsten.

She is chained to a pole with her hands tied separetly above her. THere is no gag. She is wet though. ANyway, you see her hands and the rope catch her. THe chains are pulled towards a magnet. She is held by the wrist ropes, while her feet are pulled by the magnet and chain.
JJ
Tuesday June 29 00:27:32 2004
Re: Db entries
Brian R wrote:

> I suggest that rather than pulling suspect entries
> be advised that this may be erroneous and subject to
> That keeps people from wasting time on ones that turn
> out to be phony

Discussed with Brian about the new system of warning, instead of pulling suspect entries.
Considering, if interest? Going through the complaints and posting up "Warnings" for past joke entries and such.

This would be for the other side of this,
those angry about wasting money, and/or time on joke entries.
Like new system that works for everyone.
Jay L
Tuesday June 29 00:37:05 2004
Re: The Division - tonight
What is she blindfolded with? AJJ is one of my all time faves.
Ted
Tuesday June 29 00:40:33 2004
Re: The Division - tonight
You think theyll repeat the scene?
Snupes
Tuesday June 29 00:58:27 2004
Re: A.T.W.T.
zinger wrote:

> Re: Lucy storyline...there may be more to come yet. One
> of the bad guys was sitting in the restaurant listening
> to the cops discussing the efforts to find Lucy/Dusty.

It'll have to happen this week. Spoilers for next week say Lucy is rescued.

Tuesday June 29 01:15:34 2004
Re: The curse of the near gag
This post was deleted.

Poster: No gag clause theorist
Reason: Don't respond to trolls.
The Moderator
Tuesday June 29 01:19:13 2004
Re: The curse of the near gag
Jazz411 wrote:


> To be honest, I had no idea that themoviespoiler.com went
> from screenplays. I had gotten the impression that the
> reviewer/spoiler had seen the movie itself.

I may be confusing it with another one as well. I thought
that the report was from scripts, but maybe not.

Brian R
Tuesday June 29 03:51:39 2004
Re: The Division - tonight

Very disappointing. I was hoping that Amy would get the full treatment...
bob
Tuesday June 29 04:49:07 2004
Re: The curse of the near gag
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Happened to Marcia Gay Harden in 'Fever' when the captor
> told her to open up for the gag but she said she couldn't
> breathe with it in her mouth. Luckily she tasted the
> cloth again later in the movie.

There was an episode of "Knight Rider" that featured this phenomenon. It concerned a quartet of villainous hotties, one of whom was played by Ann Turkel. The main character, played by David Hasselhoff is being held prisoner, with Ann Turkel guarding him. He manages to overpower her, and is shown about to gag her with a handkerchief. Ann Turkel is never shown gagged, however.

Hadji
Tuesday June 29 06:28:07 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
>>>>>Are you saying you want to just be able to tell at a
glance if a scene has a gag, without having to read the
description (which as I mentioned, should say it anyway if it's well-written)?<<<<<

I'm saying I would like to run a DB search for gag scenes and NOT get all the "she's not gagged", "no gag", and the always irritating "she's hand-gagged" entries included.

As for other details, they're nice I suppose, but I don't really care HOW she's gagged or tied, or what she's wearing, or whether she has on boots or bare feet... but I WOULD like to know if the scene is a "blinkie" or not.

The Greyman
Tuesday June 29 07:55:01 2004
Re: The curse of the near gag
i think that its the worst tease of all. to make you think that some hottie is gonna taste the cloth (or tape), then nothing. these people who tease us like this need to be flogged in public for such sins. totally unforgivable.
henry fool
henry_fool@lycos.com
Tuesday June 29 09:35:44 2004
Re: Paper Dolls Returns!!!
It would be a waste of time taping any episodes unless they show one after episode 14 (which ends with news of a plane crash).

If Soapnet ends the run with this episode then we're out of luck and Terry Farrell's scene is gone for good.

Tuesday June 29 10:28:57 2004
Interesting Album Cover
Not just for fans of The Cure
Robert Smith
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4021281541&rd=1
Tuesday June 29 11:12:52 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
The Greyman wrote:

******I'm saying I would like to run a DB search for gag scenes and NOT get all the "she's not gagged", "no gag", and the always irritating "she's hand-gagged" entries included.*******

I've tried to set it up so you can search on certain words to bring gags up alone.
Suggest: "Cleave", "Detective" and "Tape"

******As for other details, they're nice I suppose, but I don't really care HOW she's gagged or tied, or what she's wearing, or whether she has on boots or bare feet... but I WOULD like to know if the scene is a "blinkie" or not.******

Some posters, such as Biffy are very thorough with scene lengths and times.
If that what you requesting for all?
Jay L
Tuesday June 29 12:14:25 2004
"Missing" July 10
Lifetime is clearly sexying up Caterina Scorcese for the new season. Check out the video clip. You'd have to think a scene is possible at some point.

"Wild Card" preview is also up. Not expecting much, but the premise is at least hopeful if they get Joely Fisher snooping around.
http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/missing/index.html
Tuesday June 29 14:06:28 2004
Re: The Division - tonight
Do you think they will have a rerun of this episode again?
Bowers
Tuesday June 29 14:15:54 2004
Reservoir Dogs reference
Hey, remember that scene in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. Blonde ties up and gags the cop and cuts his ear off? Pretty disturbing, but I think we can all agree a memorable part of a pretty mainstream film. But what if, instead of a criminal and a police officer, they were strippers? And what if, instead of one cutting the other's ear off, they were stripping? That would be pretty cool, huh?

If you answered "yes", you should definitely consider checking out the Suicide Girls' burlesque show if it's in your town. I haven't seen it myself but I've read some reviews, and let me tell you: as much as I regretted not being able to go before, I am kicking myself three times as hard now.
Despite
Tuesday June 29 14:24:12 2004
Re: Interesting Album Cover
Robert Smith wrote:

> Not just for fans of The Cure

A site with a litte bit bigger pictures...

Is this the work or Stanton?
Pofoz
http://visual.givemeit.de/girlsdontcry/
Tuesday June 29 14:25:21 2004
Re: Interesting Album Cover
> Is this the work or Stanton?

Of course, I meant "OF Stanton?"
Pofoz
Tuesday June 29 15:01:51 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
The Greyman wrote:

> I'm saying I would like to run a DB search for gag scenes
> and NOT get all the "she's not gagged",
> "no gag", and the always irritating "she's
> hand-gagged" entries included.
>
Ouch. I feel your pain. I remember doing similar searches for other terms, and coming across misuses of the term as well as blanks.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing a checkbox system for multiple things - i.e. gag or not, rope, duct-tape, chains, wrists behind or in front, etc. The problem would be going through every entry and setting up such a system. It would be great if someone was willing to do that, even if it was only a little at a time, provided they were dedicated enough to see it through completion.

> I WOULD like to know if the scene is a "blinkie" or not.

That could be another set of checkboxes - prolonged, blinkie, or inbetween. Another would be gloomavision or not. Of course, we'd have to agree on what terms are most important, since the more there are the harder it would be to design such a system.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday June 29 15:08:45 2004
caps wanted
"Title: Operation Cobra (1995)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Lotte Arnsbjerg

Description: Danish thriller. Lotte plays a young police woman going undercover as a terrorist. When the baddies find out, they tie her to a pole (very tightly!) and gag her with silver duct tape. She manages to cut through the ropes. Nice close-ups."

Anyone have pictures of this? Please.
-23
Tuesday June 29 15:15:53 2004
Re: Interesting Album Cover
Pofoz wrote:

> > Is this the work or Stanton?
>
> Of course, I meant "OF Stanton?"



...Assuredly the style is similar to Stanton's, but I believe this example actually is the work of a gent known as "Jim." He was a contemporary of Stanton's and was also quite the genius.

Overlooker
Tuesday June 29 17:05:13 2004
Re: Interesting Album Cover
Robert Smith wrote:

> Not just for fans of The Cure

But for the fans of Master Jim too. Samples from "The Countessa's Revenge", I guess.
Lisa
Tuesday June 29 17:34:18 2004
ATWT
Nothing on Tuesday and it doesn't look good. Molly was shown being dragged unbound into an underground area, where she was tossed into a cage. Lots of screaming by the damsel. That's where she stayed as the episode ended.
Tuesday June 29 17:40:33 2004
D.O.O.L.
Hey - anyone hear about anything going on in Days of Our Lives? Descriptions keep mentioning 'Jennifer kidnapped,' and the current storyline is called 'Captive Island.' Could a potential set-up be anymore obvious?

Anyone watch this show on a regular basis?
Clarifier
Tuesday June 29 18:13:46 2004
Re: D.O.O.L.
Clarifier wrote:

> Hey - anyone hear about anything going on in Days of Our
> Lives? Descriptions keep mentioning 'Jennifer
> kidnapped,' and the current storyline is called 'Captive
> Island.' Could a potential set-up be anymore obvious?
>
> Anyone watch this show on a regular basis?

Hey. Yeah I watch the show on a regular basis. Jennifer was kidnapped but it was by a guy trying to take her to the island and their plane crashed. Jennifer servived but the driver didn't. Captive Island won't have any bondage what so ever. At least it shouldn't. It's an island indentical to Salem and where everybody who is "killed" is brought. So basically, if somebody is killed, whoever runs the island planned it and brought them to the island alive. They are being held captive there but by fences and barbed wire and alarms and stuff. No ropes. They can run around on the island, just can't get off the island. So yeah, no bondage. There MAY be though with Hope(Kristin Alfonso). Hope thinks Patrick is a bad guy and Patrick isn't, he's just trying to save Jennifer. Thursday, Patrick points a gun at Hope and says she can let him go and tr and help Jennifer like a good cop or not let him go or something. Hopefully she won't trust him and he'll have to tie her up so he can go find Jennifer. Anyway, yeah. I live in Canada so I'll let you know A.S.A.P if Thursday will bring anything for her.
Get it?
Got it?
Good!
Bud
Tuesday June 29 19:10:00 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Jazz411 wrote:

> I remember doing similar searches
> for other terms, and coming across misuses of the term as
> well as blanks.

Suggest when you have this problem in future,
mention it over on the Database Corrections page.

Realise, we've gone through entire DB afew times lining up all the entries for the search. So may have a good idea on how to suggest searching.
Jay L
Tuesday June 29 19:11:21 2004
Edgar Wallace Movies
Greetings. I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any bondage scenes in any of the old Edgar Wallace movies made in Germany in the early sixties. Any info would be greatly valued, since they come up on Ebay from time to time. Thanks.
Vlad
Tuesday June 29 20:10:07 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
The Greyman wrote:


> I'm saying I would like to run a DB search for gag scenes
> and NOT get all the "she's not gagged",
> "no gag", and the always irritating "she's
> hand-gagged" entries included.


I'm not sure how I would implement that. What did you
have in mind?


The Engineer
Tuesday June 29 20:12:39 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
The Engineer wrote:

> The Greyman wrote:
>
> > and NOT get all the "she's not gagged",
> > "no gag", and the always irritating
>
> I'm not sure how I would implement that. What did you
> have in mind?

I have two ideas myself. One would be a search system which works similar to those search engines where a plus or minus affects search terms. E.g. ("gagged" -"not gagged") would yield only "gagged" and NOT "not gagged".

The other idea however is a bit more odd. Basically, it would be an option to filter out all entries which contain certain words close to the ones you are searching for. For example, when this option is checked and you search for "gagged", it would intentionally ignore all entries which include the following:

"not gagged"
"hand gagged"
"no gagged"
etc - entries with words such as "not", "no", etc prefacing or following the word you entered. Like I said, a strange idea, but it's just strange enough that it might work.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday June 29 20:19:53 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Jazz411 wrote:

> The Greyman wrote:
>
> > and NOT get all the "she's not gagged",
> > "no gag", and the always irritating "she's
> > hand-gagged" entries included.

> Ouch. I feel your pain. I remember doing similar searches
> for other terms, and coming across misuses of the term as
> well as blanks.

How is that a misuse? People WANT that information.

I don't know what these "checkboxes" you guys are
talking about are exactly.

Brian R
Tuesday June 29 20:20:24 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question

> > I'm not sure how I would implement that. What did
> you
> > have in mind?
>

I always thought that the not gagged and no gag statments should just be removed. All they do is screw up the search engine features. On a page like this one it's pretty obvious that if there was a gag it would have been mentioned so not mentioning a gag means no gag.
Mark C
Tuesday June 29 20:23:27 2004
The Division
To answer the questions posted today, Amy Jo and the other hostages (4 gals, one putz) were blindfolded with black cloth (which would have made perfect cleave gags but I digress), and although nothing was announced, I would have to assume that the season finale would be rerun since it typically is one the "showcase" episodes of a series and this series is going to be in rerun for a while now.
Tuesday June 29 20:25:29 2004
Peyton List scene
Can someone tell me where I can find some caps of the Peyton List scene from ATWT? And was she wearing one of those micro-miniskirts when she was first tied up? Thanx.
RJ
Tuesday June 29 20:41:35 2004
Soaps
Well, on ATWT the Lucy kidnap storyline does seem to be over. On today's episode the 'brains' behind the plan revealed himself. Mr. Big turns out to be...Lucy's father!

However, spoilers for Days of our Lives week of July 5 state that 'Hope gets herself in a dangerous situation' and 'John ties Crystal to a beam in the Kiriakas barn...to get more information out of her.' (Crystal is played by soap vet Sarah Buxton.)
zinger
Tuesday June 29 21:17:52 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Brian R wrote:

> How is that a misuse? People WANT that information.
>
I phrased it badly. I meant that you search for one word, and get almost the opposite of what you intended. It's not a misuse, just a disappointing opposite result.

> I don't know what these "checkboxes" you guys
> are talking about are exactly.

There's a number of ways such a thing could be implemented (if it were, since the first step would be doing that to such a huge database). Basically, in the database page, one could click on various checkboxes which contain terms such as "gagged", "duct-tape", "rope", "villain gloating", "lengthy" or whatever terms are created. Doing so would yield relevant results (but the database entries would have to be programmed to respond to those checkboxes).
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Tuesday June 29 21:38:23 2004
Re: caps wanted
-23 wrote:

> "Title: Operation Cobra (1995)
> Medium: Movie
> Actress: Lotte Arnsbjerg
>
> Description: Danish thriller. Lotte plays a young police
> woman going undercover as a terrorist. When the baddies
> find out, they tie her to a pole (very tightly!) and gag
> her with silver duct tape. She manages to cut through the
> ropes. Nice close-ups."
>
> Anyone have pictures of this? Please.

I found the image below at Lotte's Official Web Site: http://www.lottearnsbjerg.com/

Here's the image URL, in case of server problems.
http://www.lottearnsbjerg.com/common/123-cobra-2.jpg

According to the IMDb, "Operation Cobra" hasn't been released on VHS or DVD.
http://www.lottearnsbjerg.com/common/123-cobra-2.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Tuesday June 29 22:00:18 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Mark C wrote:

> I always thought that the not gagged and no gag statments
> should just be removed. All they do is screw up the
> search engine features.

Okay,
as mentioned before, when I went through entire DB it was set up to search on "Detective", "Cleave", "Tape", etc etc for Gag scenes.

"No Gag" was set up for the Collectors.
You'll likely notice it mostly in the bottom part of the description.
Idea being, with Brian's new alerts system- {entry # making entire entry post}, Collectors able to quickly skim down the VCR Alerts page and single out the "Gagged" Alerts.

If the Collectors don't mind?
Figure that something I can look into.
Jay L
Tuesday June 29 22:27:14 2004
Re: Soaps
> However, spoilers for Days of our Lives week of July 5
> state that 'Hope gets herself in a dangerous situation'
> and 'John ties Crystal to a beam in the Kiriakas
> barn...to get more information out of her.' (Crystal is
> played by soap vet Sarah Buxton.)

Interesting comment about a "beam." Possible AOH scene for Sarah Buxton?

(Filler to meet the text quantity requirement.)
Malasfan
Tuesday June 29 22:43:32 2004
Re: Database Suggestion/Question
Brian R wrote:

> I don't know what these "checkboxes" you guys
> are
> talking about are exactly.

I think they want something like this:

When an entry is put in the DB, they have a box to check if there is a gag involved.

Then when someone searches the DB but only wants gag scenes, they can check a box to seperate DB entries where a gag is involved.
A.
Tuesday June 29 23:05:43 2004
Re: Peyton List scene
RJ wrote:

> Can someone tell me where I can find some caps of the
> Peyton List scene from ATWT? And was she wearing one of
> those micro-miniskirts when she was first tied up? Thanx.

There are no caps. A good portion of the country missed the scene due to Reagan funeral coverage. They might turn up eventually but I wouldn't count on it. bindher.com has the clip of the scene and one cap of the initial gagging.

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