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Monday June 21 00:07:45 2004
Re: Martha Smith is the greatest!
Ron wrote:

> She also answered my
> questions about her gag scene on her website.

Whats the url to the site?
Monday June 21 02:03:50 2004
CASE FILE added
Erin Mulligan from the animated series CASE CLOSED aka DETECTIVE CONAN "The Shooter"
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday June 21 02:19:11 2004
Re: Cellular Scenes according to script

> > There has been some speculation here about possible
> DiD
> > scenes in the upcoming movie "Cellular".
>
> There was some discussion about the prospects of the
> movie earlier but if you check out the newly released
> trailer at apple.com/movies, there doesn't look to be
> anything. She is not bound at all during the attic
> scenes from the looks of it, and jessica biel doesn't
> even make an appearance. Keep your fingers crossed, but
> I think it will be another huge let down.

I think you're wrong. The trailer I just saw in the movie theatre has a sequence where it definitely looks like there's a cable tie/strap or some such around her neck that's just been loosened, that makes it look like she's been attached to that pole/post that's directly behind her. Why put her in the attic right by a post if she's not attached to it? I bet in some way, she will be. Also, they don't show the van scene at all. I bet that will pay off as well. Taking all gentlemen's bets now . . .

Clarifier
Monday June 21 03:05:50 2004
The Last Horror Movie
I saw a picture in the latest issue of the ever reliable
"Fangoria" magazine of a couple tied to chairs and cleave
gagged. It is a scene from the upcoming Fangoria film "The
Last Horror Movie". It concerns some lunatic killer on the
loose. Could be interesting.
M Kluz
mkluzorange@msn.com
Monday June 21 10:38:26 2004
Re: Martha Smith is the greatest!
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Ron wrote:
>
> > She also answered my
> > questions about her gag scene on her website.
>
> Whats the url to the site?

http://www.martha-smith.com - just click on Ask Martha to get to the relevant page.
Monday June 21 10:39:52 2004
Carol Alt
Best DinD image of all time?

Supermodel Damsel
Nice Cleave
Skimpy outfit
Nice Leg Bondage
http://bindher.com/vidsdids/features/unorsoarturo10.jpg
Monday June 21 10:54:44 2004
Re: Hillside Strangler
Another film with the same title stars Brittany Daniel. Looks like she's tied up in the poster.
Canuck
http://www.us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0373900/Ss/0373900/hs.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0373900
Monday June 21 12:28:12 2004
Lost Martha Smith Scene
In one of the episodes, Francine (Martha Smith)was in Afganistan and was captured by a Russian Agent. This is the first scene prior to opening. She is wearing kakhi trousers/shirt. In the next scene the camera pans in to a bound and blindfolded (and possibly gagged) Francine on a cot. The screen say "Beirut" ...... Later she is exchanged in a hostige/spy exchange in DC and still wearing the kakhi outfit. Short scene and only saw it once... It was great.... pics anyone?????
Scarecrow
Monday June 21 12:57:57 2004
Pic ID
A 2002 art ehhibit at a museum had one interesting display:

Shannon Griffiths (Toronto, Ontario) shows "Gag Order," a series of images of television and movie stills of gagged women in a wry commentary on the prevalence of this image in popular culture.

Who is the actress in the pic? The link also has a pic of Sarah Purcell from TAU (middle square in 2nd row)
http://www.whitecolumns.org/Regarding_Gloria/big/S_Griffiths_two.jpg
http://www.whitecolumns.org/Regarding_Gloria/gallery.html#
Monday June 21 13:23:00 2004
Re: Pic ID
(unsigned poster) wrote:

>
> Who is the actress in the pic?

Tovah Feldsuh in Cheaper To Keep Her
eddie
Monday June 21 13:40:20 2004
Re: Pic ID
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> A 2002 art ehhibit at a museum had one interesting
> display:
>
> Shannon Griffiths (Toronto, Ontario) shows "Gag
> Order," a series of images of television and movie
> stills of gagged women in a wry commentary on the
> prevalence of this image in popular culture.

Wow!! I remember either starting or participating in a discussion of meshing DiD images with art for a showing in an art gallery. I wonder how she got permission to use the images and how she got the art gallery to agree to present it?

Hey, Mr. Moderator. Could you include DiD artwork to be posted on this site if it meets your approval?
Delbert
Monday June 21 13:44:52 2004
Re: Martha Smith is the greatest!
Ron wrote:
She also
> mentioned being gagged for the cover of some album when
> she was modeling. She didn't give the band's name or
> anything. Anyone know anything about this? Martha gagged
> on an album cover? Thanks Ron.

In the 70's a band called Ohio Express had an album cover with a lady tied to railroad tracks. I do not rememeber if she was gagged.
Monday June 21 13:51:25 2004
Re: Pic ID
eddie wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> >
> > Who is the actress in the pic?
>
> Tovah Feldsuh in Cheaper To Keep Her

THAT was a great scene! Long...lots of motioned...gog talk...anger...good shot. Well...except for Mac Davis.
Monday June 21 13:59:36 2004
Re: Pic ID
> Who is the actress in the pic?

Interesting.

I don't know the film, so maybe that colors my thinking, but does anyone else think that gag looks Photoshopped? The top of it looks like more of a straight line than I'd expect to see with an actual piece of fabric or tape.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Monday June 21 14:00:30 2004
Re: Martha Smith is the greatest!
> In the 70's a band called Ohio Express had an album cover
> with a lady tied to railroad tracks. I do not rememeber
> if she was gagged.

Could be Martha
http://home.att.net/~bubblegumusic/oem.gif
Canuck
Monday June 21 14:51:52 2004
Re: Pic ID
Jeb wrote:

> > Who is the actress in the pic?
>
> Interesting.
>
> I don't know the film, so maybe that colors my thinking,
> but does anyone else think that gag looks Photoshopped?
> The top of it looks like more of a straight line than I'd
> expect to see with an actual piece of fabric or tape.

I saw this movie, and she was gagged with several strips of white tape. I don't recall her gag covering her chin, however, so this picture may have been doctored.

Hadji
Monday June 21 14:55:54 2004
Re: Martha Smith is the greatest!
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Ron wrote:
> She also
> > mentioned being gagged for the cover of some album
> when
> > she was modeling. She didn't give the band's name or
>
> > anything. Anyone know anything about this? Martha
> gagged
> > on an album cover? Thanks Ron.
>
> In the 70's a band called Ohio Express had an album cover
> with a lady tied to railroad tracks. I do not rememeber
> if she was gagged.

Though the damsel isn't gagged on the album cover, she may have been gagged at some time during the photo shoot. Several pictures may have been taken, some of them in which she was gagged. She isn;t gagged in the one that was selected.
This may be why Martha Smith recalls being gagged for the photo shoot, but no picture has surfaced.
Hadji
Monday June 21 15:01:49 2004
Re: Pic ID
Hadji wrote:

>
> I saw this movie, and she was gagged with several strips
> of white tape. I don't recall her gag covering her chin,
> however, so this picture may have been doctored.
>

No physicianing ... it's authentic. And I've seen (and taped) the sequence numerous times ... it's looked to me as though it's one wide piece of tape.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Monday June 21 15:42:31 2004
Re: Pic ID
> No physicianing ... it's authentic. And I've seen (and
> taped) the sequence numerous times ... it's looked to me
> as though it's one wide piece of tape.

Scene would have been an all-time classic but for that idiot Mac Davis
Monday June 21 15:56:12 2004
Passions, ATWT
"Passions" was bust on Monday. Sheridan was kidnapped, but not bound. She was being transferred on a plane. Not much chance of anything happening here.

Lucy was not shown on Monday's ATWT, though Allison (Kournikova lookalike) is shown finding some loot in a hidden area on Tuesday's preview. It's some kind of game, but I'm not sure any bad guys are on the trail.
Monday June 21 16:14:24 2004
Update
A massive update today courtesy of Bindher - enjoy!
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com/silentnight
Monday June 21 16:29:18 2004
The prodigal Raffish returns
Okay, so I only missed a week because of work and vacation and the flu, but that's more than I try to miss...hope you like this batch.

Presenting Maribel Martin, Christine Betzer, Nuria Gimeno in A Bell From Hell, Nicole Kidman in Batman Forever, Rebecca Lisak in Hack "A Dangerous Game," Phanie Napoli in Miami Vice "Sons And Lovers," Kate Rodger in The Protector, and Alicia Witt in Urban Legend.
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/posts/0618.jpg
Raffish
raffish@abductor.com
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Monday June 21 16:58:50 2004
Re: check this out
vishal wrote:

> and also can anyone give me link for did caps of
> dentist
> hide & seek

Clips of both on my site...no caps, though, and you'll need to be a member.
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/
Monday June 21 17:29:24 2004
Re: Pic ID
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > No physicianing ... it's authentic. And I've seen
> (and
> > taped) the sequence numerous times ... it's looked
> to me
> > as though it's one wide piece of tape.
>
> Scene would have been an all-time classic but for that
> idiot Mac Davis


Interesting, then, that no one's actually answered the posted question about who the actress is.

From the context, I'm guessing it's Tovah Feldshuh in "Cheaper to Keep Her".
Jeb
Monday June 21 17:30:12 2004
Re: Pic ID
Sorry... missed one of the posts.
Jeb
Monday June 21 17:37:49 2004
Re: Lost Martha Smith Scene
Scarecrow wrote:

> In one of the episodes, Francine (Martha Smith)was in
> Afganistan and was captured by a Russian Agent. This is
> the first scene prior to opening. She is wearing kakhi
> trousers/shirt. In the next scene the camera pans in to
> a bound and blindfolded (and possibly gagged) Francine on
> a cot. The screen say "Beirut" ...... Later
> she is exchanged in a hostige/spy exchange in DC and
> still wearing the kakhi outfit. Short scene and only saw
> it once... It was great.... pics anyone?????

A while ago when I mentioned this scene, I had a hard time convincing people that it ever existed. It's in the episode "Wrong Number" (see DB) and probably has been edited out of US reruns. Also, it didn't get that much attention here because Martha wasn't gagged in that episode.
Peter de K
Monday June 21 17:57:22 2004
Die Cleveren "Der Fetischist"
Will I ever actually manage to catch up with all the cool stuff Jay L's been sending my way, capping-and-clipping-wise? Stay tuned to find out, but in the meantime, here's another down payment. (Gee...from that title, think maybe the scene is from Germany?)
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck/DieCleveren-DerFetischist/DieCleveren-DerFetischist.jpg
Raffish
http://www.abductor.com/raffish/canuck
Monday June 21 18:31:46 2004
Re: Pic ID
eddie wrote:

> > Who is the actress in the pic?

(unsigned poster) wrote:


> Tovah Feldsuh in Cheaper To Keep Her

You mean Tovah Feldshuh, don't you?
Lisa
Monday June 21 19:16:56 2004
Re: Hillside Strangler
Canuck wrote:

> Another film with the same title stars Brittany Daniel.
> Looks like she's tied up in the poster.

She isnt tied up in the film, she plays a psychiatrist interviewing the killer, the story is told via flashbacks during the interview.
Anubis
Monday June 21 19:50:28 2004
Re: Pic ID
eddie wrote:
Who is the actress in the pic?
Tovah Feldsuh in Cheaper To Keep Her
___________
Lisa wrote:
You mean Tovah Feldshuh, don't you?
____________________________________
Cheaper to Keep Her 1980
#398
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0080519
http://bindherupx.net/tgg1/tovahfeldshuh.jpg
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Monday June 21 20:00:02 2004
Re: Pic ID
Delbert wrote:

> Hey, Mr. Moderator. Could you include DiD artwork to be
> posted on this site if it meets your approval?

That would probably depend on the type of artwork.

The Moderator
Monday June 21 20:02:14 2004
Re: Hillside Strangler
Anubis wrote:

> Canuck wrote:
>
> > Another film with the same title stars Brittany
> Daniel.
> > Looks like she's tied up in the poster.
>
> She isnt tied up in the film, she plays a psychiatrist
> interviewing the killer, the story is told via flashbacks
> during the interview.

I read part of a nonfiction book about the Hillside Stranglers, and the murderous duo did indeed bind and gag their victims. I know they did use tape, but they may have used other materials to gag the unfortunate women who fell into their clutches.
The producers of the movie may incorporate accurate depictions of the crimes, and this may entail actresses being bound and gagged.

Hadji
Monday June 21 20:04:23 2004
Re: Pic ID
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Scene would have been an all-time classic but for that
> idiot Mac Davis

This sort of thing is completely unnecessary.

The Moderator
Monday June 21 22:17:37 2004
Re: Pic ID
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> A 2002 art exhibit at a museum had one interesting
> display:

This reminds me of 3 things:

First, an art photography exhibit I saw in a Louisville KY museum back in the '80s; the background of 1 photo included an out-of-focus bondage photo that looked very John Willie-esque. I can't quite remember the photographer's name, but it was something like Alan Goldman.

Second, an episode of Blair Brown's "Molly Dodd" show (the 1 about her father's death, I believe) included a dark scene in her parents' living room (boy, is this a fuzzy memory) with what looked like a poster of a John Willie photo on the wall. Does anyone remember this? Any sign of this series being released on DVD?

Third, a local art tabloid featured a color photo (on the cover, and it was a large publication so it screamed at me from the rack!) of the woman photographer posing as Nancy Drew, bound and gagged in a car or airplane.
Rich McGill
Monday June 21 23:30:00 2004
Re: Hillside Strangler
Hadji wrote:


> I know they did use tape, but they may
> have used other materials to gag the unfortunate women
> who fell into their clutches.

They also used mouth packing.

There are two Strangler movies coming out soon, the one with a bigger budget is the C. Thomas Howell one, and it trailer on the site and sample pics have several scenes of women bound and gagged with duct tape.

> The producers of the movie may incorporate accurate
> depictions of the crimes, and this may entail actresses being bound and gagged.

Its pretty much impossible for the films NOT to feature bondage, since it played an important part in the crimes themselves and in how the police were able to link the crimes together as a series.
Even the tamer TV movie couldn't totally avoid the bondage, even tho it was pretty lame how they did it.

Of course, these film's scenes may be too intense for some people considering the outcome, so let the viewer beware.

Any day now one of these producers are going to go "You know, nobodies done a serious movie about that Glatman character..."
Anubis

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