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Friday June 18 02:02:25 2004
Re: Comics & Soaps
>
> I also posted the EMMA FROST panels everyone is talking
> about (below is a sample). I wish the girl on the cover
> was the way Emma looked in the book - but I'm just
> shallow.

No, you're just being led on by Marvel's marketing department. They probably assigned Greg Horn to do the covers long before the series had been written, and he used the "adult" (in more ways than one) version of the character from the regular X-Men series for the first half-dozen or so (of course, he even makes the "plain" teen version of her look impossibly sexy).

Still, a nicely extended scene, which is a recommendation in itself.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday June 18 04:05:07 2004
Re: Caps from Love Object uploaded
bdecker wrote:

> She chloroformed by chance?

I . . . as ridiculous as it sounds, I don't remember. I don't think so, I think she's injected. Sorry, the ballgag, dominatrix-like outfit, and being put in the crate was my cause d'etre for enjoying the film. But if she had been well chloroformed in a really good scene, I think I would have remembered . . . I think.

Another good reason I need to get the DVD - to refresh my memory!

Clarifier
Friday June 18 10:38:17 2004
Re: Around The World In 80 Days
> Lead actress Cecile De France gets kidnapped in the film
> but not sure if she receives the treatment

Only if you're into babes in boxes.
Trailer shows her in a stocks-like box at one point in the film.
Didn't see much else.
Friday June 18 10:45:11 2004
Re: Swimsuit bondage
Don't forget Deborah Walley's classic buzzsaw peril scene from Ghost in the Invisible Bikini!



BiG MT
Friday June 18 12:24:17 2004
Re: Swimsuit bondage
BiG MT wrote:

> ...Ghost in the Invisible Bikini!

That was actually '60s-era lingerie... She was wearing this flimsy covering over it which got caught on something and ripped before she was grabbed. It was a nice touch.
Friday June 18 13:08:43 2004
Saw
Stills shown from the movie Saw which opens in September show Emily Proctor definitely appearing as if her hands are bound behind her and being threatened. There is a red mark at the corner of her mouth that looks more like a gag irritation then a blow but it is conjecture until we know for sure.
Gordian Knot
Friday June 18 13:21:05 2004
Yahoo
Not a bad advertisement for Yahoo personals at their home page.
http://www.yahoo.com

Major John
Friday June 18 13:58:06 2004
Re: Comics & Soaps
Jeb wrote:

> >
> > I also posted the EMMA FROST panels everyone is
> talking
> > about (below is a sample). I wish the girl on the
> cover
> > was the way Emma looked in the book - but I'm just
> > shallow.
>
> No, you're just being led on by Marvel's marketing
> department. They probably assigned Greg Horn to do the
> covers long before the series had been written, and he
> used the "adult" (in more ways than one)
> version of the character from the regular X-Men series
> for the first half-dozen or so (of course, he even makes
> the "plain" teen version of her look impossibly
> sexy).
>
> Still, a nicely extended scene, which is a recommendation
> in itself.

I agree, the prolonged scene is very delectable, and the bondage is integral to the story. The adolescent Emma Frost is bound and gagged, and ostensibly helpless. Who would think she poses a threat to anyone, with her wrists cuffed to a door and her mouth taped shut?
She wreaks havoc with her telepathic powers, however, manipulating the villains into distrusting and finally, shooting each other, remaining bound and gagged all the while. This demonstrated the scope of her powers, how she could employ them even while physically restrained, unable to use her hands or speak. The closeups of her face with her mouth taped shut were delectable ideed.
I thought that her adolescent self was quite attractive; I saw nothing plain about her.
Hadji
Friday June 18 14:03:26 2004
Big Brother UK
Interesting article I foundon the website

Keen to move the conversation on to more tantalising topics, the wannabe glamour model announced what she'd like to do with two sets of handcuffs and a whip.

With Nadia still a little puzzled, Michelle enlightened her with a detailed description on the correct use of affixing one's armour, splaying herself on the bed in demonstration.

She was keen to know if Nadia had ever had any experiences with cuffs and was met with blushes. "It's gonna be a dirty slut story," teased Michelle.

Spilling the beans, Nadia revealing that she had got some fluffy handcuffs, "to surprise this guy I was seeing." She attached herself to something and demanding the guy to "have me now." But sadly, her pleas fell on deaf ears, and the object of her affections refused her point blank.

Should be on the highlights show tonight
Friday June 18 14:18:49 2004
Not-so-unlucky Tandem bondage
Two examples come to mind:

Mike Hammer, Private Eye ("A New Life"). The assailants break into Hammer's office and tightly tie Velda and Hammer's assistant face-to-face. Hammer leaves them that way when he finds them -- and I *think* Velda made the observation to the effect that the guy seemed to be *enjoying* their predicament a bit too much...

Name of the movie escapes me, but their tied-back-to-back dialogue went along the lines of:

"There's a pocketknife in my pants. Can you reach it with your hand?"
"OK, I think I found something."
"That's not my knife."
"Sorry."
"I'm not."
Kinky-napper
Friday June 18 14:36:34 2004
Re: Kinky-Napper's Question?
Kinky-napper wrote:

"Name of the movie escapes me, but their tied-back-to-back dialogue went along the lines of:

"There's a pocketknife in my pants. Can you reach it with your hand?"
"OK, I think I found something."
"That's not my knife."
"Sorry."
"I'm not."
_______________________________________________

Believe you thinking of this show Buddy:

Record number: 333

Title: Big Easy, The
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Susan Walters

Description: Episode: "Murder In Mind" (1.2)

Hands tied behind her back, tied back to back with male lead, she wiggles and squirms to pull a knife from his pocket. Action starts in the final 10 mins
Jay L
Friday June 18 15:14:58 2004
Re: Saw
Gordian Knot wrote:

> Stills shown from the movie Saw which opens in September
> show Emily Proctor definitely appearing as if her hands
> are bound behind her and being threatened.

Are you sure that's Emily Proctor? I just looked the film up at MSN and she wasn't in the cast list. Monica Potter was, however.
Friday June 18 15:52:47 2004
ATWT
Just saw the closing minutes and preview for next week. Lucy is still running around with Dusty (unbound) and the preview showed Pilar confronting Katie with what looked like a gun. She said "Lie down" and Katie says "No." Hopefully, Teri Columbino will finally find a gag in this storyline.
Friday June 18 16:04:21 2004
OLTL-SOAP-TODAY
At about the 50 min. mark, Blair is blindfolded by a black scarf for about 20 seconds in some kind of party surprise.
Nothing else.
RON
Friday June 18 16:31:58 2004
Off-the-wall bondage imagery in commercials
Did anyone ever notice those Fructis shampoo ads? It seems like in quite a few of them a guy is grabbing the woman's hair and knotting it behind her head; it sort of looks like he's tying on a cleave-gag. Unfortunately, no such imagery appears on their website.

Also, I like the superhero Snapple commercial where the villain is using his evil device to turn world leaders into baby chicks, and the superhero rescues the blonde-wigged snapple bottle in chains from the villain's lair. It doesn't look like the bottle is gagged (How's that for a weird sentence?). But the woman doing the voiceover is definitely making "mmph" sounds.
Ron Dam
Friday June 18 16:32:21 2004
Re: Not-so-unlucky Tandem bondage
Kinky-napper wrote:

> Name of the movie escapes me, but their tied-back-to-back
> dialogue went along the lines of:
>
> "There's a pocketknife in my pants. Can you reach it
> with your hand?"
> "OK, I think I found something."
> "That's not my knife."
> "Sorry."
> "I'm not."

Believe that was "Water," with Valerie Perrine and Michael Caine. Caine seems to have a fondness for such scenes, with another such scene in "Surrender" with Sally Field.

I find such scenes uninteresting -- they're pretty much "Putz-minus" in my book.
Wolfe
Friday June 18 16:34:02 2004
Re: ATWT
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Just saw the closing minutes and preview for next week.
> Lucy is still running around with Dusty (unbound) and the
> preview showed Pilar confronting Katie with what looked
> like a gun. She said "Lie down" and Katie says
> "No." Hopefully, Teri Columbino will finally
> find a gag in this storyline.

Is Lucy's hand still wrapped up in the bandage? This is probably the best clue to whether she has a chance of getting the treatment again.

Friday June 18 16:53:47 2004
Stuff Magazine
Someone recently posted an illustration from Stuff Magazine in which a girl is binding and gagging her twin sister. Can someone tell me which issue it was, and who was on the cover, and whether it's still on sale?
Hadji
Friday June 18 16:55:16 2004
Nancy Drew Article (more for Bulletin Board)
Below is a reprint of an article that ran in the Baltimore Sun and was syndicated across the country last week regarding the New Nancy Drew book series:

The Nouveau Nancy Drew is not the one you loved

The modernized intrepid girl mystery-solver has none of the verve, charm or smarts of the original


By Annie Linskey
Sun Staff
Originally published June 5, 2004

If you grew up reading Nancy Drew mysteries, your pulse may quicken to hear that Simon and Schuster is publishing a new, updated series.

Thumbing through the new books will awaken fond memories. Bess Marvin and George Fayne are still Nancy's close chums. Ned Nickerson remains her "special friend," although his extracurricular activities include reading books at Emerson College rather than quarterbacking the football team.

Nancy's father, Carson Drew, is still a hot-shot local lawyer, and Hannah Gruen - the Drews' housekeeper - continues to fret over Nancy's safety (albeit with
considerably less cause in the modern books). Even the new covers are similar. They are canary-yellow. Carolyn Keene remains the pseudonymous author's moniker.

These familiar names will transport fans back to their childhood. After all, throngs of little girls - myself included - stayed up well past their bedtimes reading the books with flashlights under the covers. The first book was published in 1930, and additional volumes have been rolling off the presses at a steady rate since then.

Brush aside the misty nostalgia. What do you really remember about the classic teen-girl sleuth?

She was hit on the head more times than a prizefighter. Bad guys - and they were usually guys - were forever gagging her and tying her up. She regularly took the law into her own hands rather than going to the proper authorities. She sped around town in a little blue roadster. At the tender age of 16 (and later 18) she roamed around the country with hopelessly incompetent chaperones. And the spunky
little terrorist even used dynamite to destroy property. Volume after volume contained frightening images, unsafe adventures and dicey characters.

Is this the kind of literature you want to invade the impressionable brains of young children?

If you worry about that, there is some good news - and splendid news.

First the good news. The classic books are effectively are out of circulation. There aren't any at the Enoch Pratt Free Library in downtown Baltimore. However, the computer system there indicated some may lurk in branch libraries. And - for research purposes only - I was able to pick up a 1935 volume for $10 on eBay. It arrived wrapped in brown paper. But - unless they're stashed in boxes in your basement - be heartened that it takes some work to get hold of this potentially traumatic material.

Now the splendid news. The new volumes, the ones sitting on
bookstore shelves today, have been stripped of most of the
aforementioned perils. Cliffhangers, tension and suspense that kept children reading - and, er, undoubtedly steering them into unspeakable mischief - have been replaced with low-carb modern slop.

Kids can't possibly get into trouble reading this stuff. Unless, of course, they fall into a fatal coma from utter and complete boredom. Or, more likely, they plod through a few chapters, then scrap reading altogether in favor of a gunslinging, soft-porn, video-game- inspired action flick. But the few kids who can stick it out - they'll be kept safely in a literary padded playpen.

Consider this: In Without a Trace (Simon and Schuster, 150 pages, 99 cents), the first book in the new series, the Nouveau Nancy is charged with uncovering the identity of a mysterious person who tramples neighborhood zucchini patches. Nancy's friends are slow to get with the new program: "Are you really so desperate for a mystery
that you're going to investigate this?" asks longtime chum George Fayne. But in the end, George goes along.

Later in the story, a Faberge egg disappears and Nancy is back on familiar ground - searching for a missing valuable item. Only, in the old days she'd start receiving scary and threatening messages from people telling her to drop the hunt. Now, the most uncomfortable situation she runs into is when she commits a social gaffe - falsely accusing a suspect at a party.

She stays close to her hometown of River Heights, preferring local mysteries to far-flung adventures. (Maybe the Department of Homeland Security won't let her out of the country - what with her checkered past.)

Nancy never gets tied up as she did so often in the older volumes. In four new books, Nancy's life is threatened only once - and this is due to her own clumsiness. In High Risk (Simon and Schuster, 146 pages, $4.99), she accidentally knocks out the pilot of a plane she's flying in.

How could the original series have been so - rough?

Keep in mind that the first Nancy Drew book was published in 1930 - a scant 10 years after women had received the right to vote. Our country was going haywire. The nation was beset by a deep depression. Financiers weren't regulated. Politicians weren't regulated. With all this craziness going on, what could anyone expect from Nancy Drew?

Since then, our culture has developed new rules. Companies publish ethics policies and provide employees with hours of sensitivity training. Members of Congress answer to ethics committees. They even fly economy class and vote against increasing their own salaries - just so they look good to the voters, who still seem to despise them. And, just like the leaders of our society, the Nouveau Nancy Drew is keeping up appearances. Now she knows not to do anything too
scary or shocking.

In the Nouveau series, new characters are introduced. There is a black family, an ostensibly gay man (an "eccentric" single man living alone who owns a cheese shop, likes sunsets and Broadway musicals), and even a French woman. Nancy's hometown is a Noah's Ark of political correctness. Nancy fits right in. She's dumped the hot roadster for a hybrid car.

The updated books are now written in first person so readers know how Nancy feels during the course of the mystery. She sometimes gets annoyed with her friends. She can be catty. She can be impatient. Nice, safe, boring stuff.

Nancy Drew has been spiffed up a number of times - first 1959 when editor Harriet Abrams began revising the first 34 volumes to remove racist language and modernize the plots. Later updates tweaked Nancy's hair color, her wardrobe, her car and other details.

After 175 Nancy Drew books - and this number does not include spin-off series - it is fair to wonder why there is even a need for new volumes. The answer is financial. There has been more interest in her as a brand, according to publisher Simon and Schuster. And next year is Nancy's 75th anniversary, which, if her 50th anniversary was any guide, will generate considerable media attention.

As it stands, there are Nancy Drew wall calendars, Nancy Drew tote bags, Nancy Drew video games, and for adults, there is even an annual Nancy Drew convention. The goal of the new books is to expand Nancy's fan base, Simon and Schuster says. And it seems it has made the correct calculations. High Risk made it to the The New York
Times' children's best-seller list - undoubtedly preying on parental nostalgia.

But, Nancy Drew has always been a cash heifer. When turn-of-the-last-century publishing baron Edward Stratemeyer created the series, he wanted money - not fame. In fact, he was not a fan of Nancy Drew. After reading the original manuscript, he "expressed bitter disappointment ... saying the heroine was much too flip, and would never be well received," according to Mildred Wirt Benson, the first
of a long series of Nancy Drew authors.

So, at the time, Nancy Drew occupied a lonely place in the literary world. "The plots provided me were brief, yet certain hackneyed names and situations could not be bypassed," said Benson in a biographical essay quoted in The New York Times. "I concentrated upon Nancy, trying to make her a departure from the stereotyped heroine commonly encountered in the series books of the day."

Ironically, the same can be said of the new books. It is just the stereotype that has been advanced. Now, the female action figure is a cliche. And Nancy is a safe distance away from the real action.
Friday June 18 17:53:08 2004
Linda Darnell scene confirmation photo!!!
I found a photo from "Two flags west" which shows Linda Darnell's bound-and-cleave-gagged-scene so there will be no more rumours on this subject in the future; pic is at the following link:

http://film.spettacolo.virgilio.it/cinema/gallery.php?film=22396&ord=3&id=120642
anonymous
Friday June 18 18:22:13 2004
Not-so-unlucky Tandem bondage
> > Name of the movie escapes me, but their tied-back-to-back dialogue went along the lines of:
> > >
> Believe that was "Water," with Valerie Perrine and Michael Caine. Caine seems to have a fondness for such scenes, with another such scene in "Surrender" with Sally Field.
----
Yes, "Water" was the scene I was thinking of. According to Bondage Life's "Bound for Hollywood" column, Caine asks Perrine to twist her bound hands around and fish in his pocket for a lighter to burn the ropes.

"Is that it?"
He (carefully): "No. That's not it."
She (flustered): "Oh, I'm sorry."
He: "Please don't apologize."

In "Surrender", he's tied face-to-face, and he loses his balance and topples forward onto her.
She (desperately): "Lie still."
He: "I'm trying."
She (suddenly wide-eyed): "Quit moving."
He (defensively): "I have to breathe."
She (through clenched teeth): "That's not what you breathe through."

Methinks Michael Caine's agent earned his commission in selecting scripts...

And while watching these tandem bondages isn't always my cup of tea, I sure some of us kinda envied Scott Bakula having to do re-takes w/ spandex-uniformed Jolene Blalock in the Enterprise "Shadows of P'Jem" episode.
Kinky-napper
Friday June 18 18:42:12 2004
Re: Saw
(unsigned poster) wrote:


>
> Are you sure that's Emily Proctor? I just looked the film
> up at MSN and she wasn't in the cast list. Monica Potter
> was, however.

Thanks for the correction. It is Monica Potter who looks seated arms behind her threatened by a gun
Gordian Knot
Friday June 18 19:23:16 2004
Re: Emma Frost
Hadji wrote:

> I thought that her adolescent self was quite attractive; I saw nothing plain about her.

Well, "plain" would have to be in comparison to the older Emma of the Hellfire Club days where she walked around in lingerie. She is the only comics character I have ever really lusted after, to be honest.

I've been collecting the comic myself and was quite pleased with the scenes and the way it demonstrates just how good she is getting with her powers.

I hope the series lasts until she first joins the Hellfire Club. I'd like to see her bound up in THAT outfit!


Henchman Lewis
Friday June 18 19:30:46 2004
Re: fuzzweb
henry wrote:
fuzz's site is down. anyone know why? should there be
concern?
______________________
Fuzz's site seems to be up now.
It has been going up & down.
I have some of his tapes posted when it is down.
I wish he would switch to my domain name/webspace provider.
He would not have these problems.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net/fuzzweb.htm
Friday June 18 19:34:31 2004
From the horse's mouth...so to speak
A while back I posted asking a question about actresses being given a choice of gags in t.v. shows or movies. Well I went to the Martha Smith website. There is a section on there where you can e mail her questions and she will answer them. I asked her about her scene in Scarecrow & mrs. King. She was bound and gagged in one episode. I asked if she was given a choice. She responded "The bindings were really nothing. They were loose. It's up to the actor to make it look like a struggle and tension on the ropes. No I was not given a choice of bindings or gag. That was a writer-producer call." So there you have it. By the way Martha said she loved that episode.
Ron
Friday June 18 20:09:30 2004
Man, we oldtimers...
...have got to start hanging around here more often. And I'd personally like to offer my apologies to our friend Hadji on behalf of my fellow elders who dropped the ballgag...er, ah, BALL...well, you know what I mean-when he asked about swimsuit scenes. How, how, HOW could anyone-ANYONE-who's seen it forget the quintessential swimsuited damsel-in-peril scene-Ursula Andress at the end of "Dr. No?" Come on, that one had to have crossed SOMEONE else's mind here! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she was the only one of Sean Connery's "Bond Girls" who got it by herself and not with him.

Sorry, I don't really mean to come off sounding so crabby, but I turned 50 a couple of weeks ago, and this kind of reminded me of that again...
An Old, OLD Friend
Friday June 18 20:14:27 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
Ron wrote:

> A while back I posted asking a question about actresses
> being given a choice of gags in t.v. shows or movies.
> Well I went to the Martha Smith website. There is a
> section on there where you can e mail her questions and
> she will answer them. I asked her about her scene in
> Scarecrow & mrs. King. She was bound and gagged in
> one episode. I asked if she was given a choice. She
> responded "The bindings were really nothing. They
> were loose. It's up to the actor to make it look like a
> struggle and tension on the ropes. No I was not given a
> choice of bindings or gag. That was a writer-producer
> call." So there you have it. By the way Martha said she loved that episode.

Many bindings seen in movies or television are either fake or contrived. I knew an actress and waitress in Hermosa Beach, CA, who told me that she had been bound and gagged in a movie entitled "Carjack". When I inquired whether her bonds had been tight, she replied that while her hands appeared to be bound with rope, her bindings were a contrivance that resembled securely tied rope, but was fastened with Velcro.
By the way, there is no Database Entry for the aforementioned movie. Could it be because no one has ever seen it?
Did you ask Martha Smith whether her gag was secure or effective?
Friday June 18 20:23:33 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
> Many bindings seen in movies or television are either
> fake or contrived.

I remember that in one episode of McMillan and Wife, Susan Sarandon's character was tied to a chair and gagged and had to dial a phone with her nose. However, supposedly during the filming of the scene, something surprised Sarandon and she briefly jumped, pulling her unbound hands out from behind her back. Since they didn't need to actually tie her hands for the scene (no close-ups of bound wrists, for instance), they simply didn't. She merely wore a gag and ankle bindings, but played at being helpless.

> I inquired whether her bonds had been tight, she replied
> that while her hands appeared to be bound with rope, her
> bindings were a contrivance that resembled securely tied
> rope, but was fastened with Velcro.

Now that's interesting. I wonder what that would look like up close, or where you'd buy something like that.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Friday June 18 20:24:03 2004
Co-ed bondage.
This post was deleted.

Poster: Historian
Reason: Off-topic, many people here protest guy bondage strenusously. Followups deleted as well.
The Moderator
Friday June 18 20:30:48 2004
Bond Girls in Bondage w/o Bond
> HOW could anyone-ANYONE-who's seen it forget the quintessential swimsuited damsel-in-peril scene-Ursula Andress at the end of "Dr. No?" Come on, that one had to have crossed SOMEONE else's mind here!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she was the only one of Sean Connery's "Bond Girls" who got it by herself and not with him.
----
One of Andress' recollections was that her "Dr. No" swimsuit top was intentionally fitted one or two sizes too small for her. :-)

There are several scenes of Bond Girls bound w/o James Bond in a similar predicament. Claudine Auger in "Thunderball", Jane Seymour's AOH scene in "Live and Let Die", and Kim Basinger in "Never Say Never Again" come to mind (I haven't seen too many of the post-Sean Connery and Roger Moore James Bond films).
Kinky-napper
Friday June 18 20:30:57 2004
check this out
This post was deleted.

Poster: vishal
Reason: Nudity.
The Moderator
Friday June 18 20:34:08 2004
Re: Yahoo
Major John wrote:

> Not a bad advertisement for Yahoo personals at their home
> page.

I assume you mean the image below. Those ads generally
rotate images.

Brian R
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mntl/pers/04q2/eric_2ce.jpg
Friday June 18 20:40:06 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
Jazz411 wrote:

> > Many bindings seen in movies or television are
> either
> > fake or contrived.
>
>
> > I inquired whether her bonds had been tight, she
> replied
> > that while her hands appeared to be bound with rope,
> her
> > bindings were a contrivance that resembled securely
> tied
> > rope, but was fastened with Velcro.
>
> Now that's interesting. I wonder what that would look
> like up close, or where you'd buy something like that.


I was the anonymous author of the included message. I forgot to enter my name.
Regarding your query about where this facsimile rope binding may be purchased, you might want to call a movie studio's prop department to find out whether it is purchased from a supplier, or crafted by the artisans employed by the studio.
Hadji
Friday June 18 20:41:37 2004
Bond Girls in Bondage w/o Bond
> There are several scenes of Bond Girls bound w/o James in a similar predicament:
----
And Barbara Bach in "The Spy Who Loved Me".

I'd wondered if the villain had the foresight to order a custom-made lounger w/ restraints built for him, or whether it was a standard item orderable from the SMERSH corporate-approved furniture catalog.
Kinky-napper
Friday June 18 20:44:15 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Many bindings seen in movies or television are either
> fake or contrived. I knew an actress and waitress in
> Hermosa Beach, CA, who told me that she had been bound
> and gagged in a movie entitled "Carjack".

> By the way, there is no Database Entry for the
> aforementioned movie.

There are two movies with that title listed in the IMDB.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0129812/

http://imdb.com/title/tt0115831/

See if you spot the actress's name or perhaps narrow
it down by date, then someone may be able to find a
copy and see about it.

Brian R
Friday June 18 20:50:02 2004
Re: Jazz's Question?
Jazz411 wrote:

> > rope, but Velcro.
> Now that's interesting. I wonder what that would look
> like up close, or where you'd buy something like that.

For similar, suggest a sporting store,
though haven't seen the for a good while.

They were sold as sets to resemble hockey sock material,
velcro tab at end would stick to material itself.
Came in a few different colours, well as white.
There also cheaper white velro bands as well.
Idea being, cut down on amount of tape used to keep your pads on.
Imagine the introduction of Cooper-all full pant equipment awhile back killed the business.

Would be great for show sets,
as positioned right, appear straight rope.
Jay L
Friday June 18 20:53:16 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
Jazz411 wrote:

> I remember that in one episode of McMillan and Wife,
> Susan Sarandon's character was tied to a chair and gagged
> and had to dial a phone with her nose. However,
> supposedly during the filming of the scene, something
> surprised Sarandon and she briefly jumped, pulling her
> unbound hands out from behind her back. Since they didn't
> need to actually tie her hands for the scene (no
> close-ups of bound wrists, for instance), they simply
> didn't. She merely wore a gag and ankle bindings, but
> played at being helpless.
>

That would be Susan Saint James.

Although her wrists may not have been bound for all shots, I'd have to think they were for the chair-hopping scene due to the dynamics of the situation.

That sequence is capped at my site, by the way.
Biff
http://community.webtv.net/unlikelysource/TheCaseFilesofBiff
Friday June 18 21:09:42 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
Brian R wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > Many bindings seen in movies or television are
> either
> > fake or contrived. I knew an actress and waitress in
>
> > Hermosa Beach, CA, who told me that she had been
> bound
> > and gagged in a movie entitled "Carjack".
>
>
> > By the way, there is no Database Entry for the
> > aforementioned movie.
>
> There are two movies with that title listed in the IMDB.
>
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0129812/
>
> http://imdb.com/title/tt0115831/


I did consult the IMDb, and can aver that it is the one produced in 1996. The actress' name is Rochelle Ashana; she was a very athletic girl who was also a stuntwoman.
Hadji
Friday June 18 21:13:14 2004
CHRISTINE TAYLOR
Maaaan, seeing the trailers for Dodgeball makes me yearn for my holy grail, Christine Taylor's scene in HEY DUDE.
I'd give me eye teeth for that clip!!!
myron b.
Friday June 18 21:38:08 2004
From the gagged Damsels mouth....
While I asked Martha several questions about the scene she didn't answer them all. If you're interested in reading it heres a link. Just click on ask Martha.

http://www.martha-smith.com/
Ron
Friday June 18 21:48:36 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
Biff wrote:

> That would be Susan Saint James.
>
Oops.

> Although her wrists may not have been bound for all
> shots, I'd have to think they were for the chair-hopping
> scene due to the dynamics of the situation.
>
Good point. I forgot how one scene could have multiple camera angles, and thus be filmed at completely separate instances. So it's possible that St. James' hands were tied for the close-ups, since they were filmed separately.

> That sequence is capped at my site, by the way.

Not bad. I always liked that scene. I noticed that although there are interesting dynamics involved, her hands are still never seen. But she's either good at holding onto her chair at the right angle, or there's something holding them in place.
Jazz411
jazz411@ptd.net
Friday June 18 21:59:59 2004
Susan St. James scene
That is a grat scene! I love her gag! However I have only seen caps and never the actual show!! Anyone know where I can get a copy? She looks sooooo! cute biting into her gag.
Ron
Friday June 18 22:11:33 2004
Re: CHRISTINE TAYLOR
> Maaaan, seeing the trailers for Dodgeball makes me yearn
> for my holy grail, Christine Taylor's scene in HEY DUDE.
> I'd give me eye teeth for that clip!!!

About a week ago I was flipping through the channels and was shocked to find that Nickelodeon was airing the pilot episode to "Hey Dude!" I think it was part of some "retro show" they were doing, but I immediately recalled the episode with the lovely Ms. Taylor B&G (it's the one where they're all playing capture the flag.) Holy Grail is a fitting description of this scene, for unless Nick miraculously decides to start airing the show again, I think it will be lost forever.
Dart
Friday June 18 23:17:58 2004
Re: From the horse's mouth...so to speak
Jazz411 wrote:

I noticed that
> although there are interesting dynamics involved, her
> hands are still never seen. But she's either good at
> holding onto her chair at the right angle, or there's something holding them in place.
>

I never thought about it 'til now ... but looking at the angle of her forearms I'd say that her wrists were either tied or she was holding onto something between her hands keeping them in that position. If she were holding onto the back of the chair, her forearms would be at a different angle.

Welcome to McMILLAN MINUTIAE, with your host, the late Nancy Walker.
Biff

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