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Friday April 22 00:15:40 2005
Re: Clarification request:
Anubis wrote:

> Hmmm.... Does this mean I can still call you "Old
> Hitler"?

That's it, you're banned.

The Moderator
Friday April 22 00:18:03 2005
Re: Page Design
Anubis wrote:

> The Engineer wrote:
>
> > like getting the search back on-line
>
> I would just like to say that I am looking forward to
> that, this site is extremely hindered without it. One of
> the best features this site has. Any sort of timeframe on
> when that will be fixed?

I have to figure out what the problem is. What happened
was that I got a nastygram from the hosting company
saying there were some orphaned search processes that
had continued to grow and suck up resources. I don't
really know what causes that, so I haven't come up with
a fix, or even a way to test it.


The Engineer
Friday April 22 01:54:55 2005
Re: Batman Begins
anon22 wrote:

> I suppose it would help if 'Beaver' could remember in
> which magazine he saw the photo...it wasn't that long
> ago, right?

didnt u read the post. it was in japanese. anyway have 2 agree with lance.. surfin da web n came up on this picture of katie almos exactly as beaver describe.

id post the image but 4 bandwidth's sake.. c 4 yourself at http://katieholmespictures.com/gallery/albums/pics/zbbpromo_001.jpg
john7884
Friday April 22 02:16:20 2005
Re: Malevolence
> This movie had mother and daughter bound and gagged with
> duct tape. They were in an abandoned house. Daughter
> escapes,mother is left bound. Mother has gag removed and
> regagged at one point.

The mother is played by Samantha Dark. Follow the link to an interview and page with some caps. The interviewer (obviously thinking about us <G>) asks her about being tied up. Can't wait to see it!

Q: There's a good chunk of the film where you're a hostage. Were there any particular sequences that were difficult to shoot?

A: Being tied up on the floor with tape over my mouth in a lot of the scenes was not comfortable to do. (***spoiler follows on the interview page***)
Zuma
http://www.iconsoffright.com/IV_Sam.htm
Friday April 22 03:58:15 2005
re: Batman Begins
As I recollect, the were a number of :)'s in Beaver's original posts, which led me to believe that it was a joke. The fact that he described Katie's outfit accurately means nothing more than he's seen the same production stills as the rest of us. Moreover, the fact that the joke was straight-faced rather than broad (ie, stripped to her bra and panties, hog-tied and cleave gagged) doesn't mean it's not a joke. (Although, again, the "well lit" bit seemed to me a particularly suspect detail…after, of course, the "cleave gagged and hog-tied".)

Of course, there's an easy way to end the speculation: How 'bout it, Beaver? Obviously, you've got some folks rather anxious over the topic (and I would be too, if I thought it was for real). Joke or no joke?
dg
Friday April 22 04:39:57 2005
Dr. Who 1x03
There was a pretty good chloroform scene in the episode, as well as a pretty decent handgag (17 minutes). Rose is dressed in a victorian dress, corset and everything.
No actual bondage yet, but it looks like this show has some decent potential.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@gmail.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps/cal
Friday April 22 04:51:48 2005
re: Batman Begins
Why do most people here think the scene is not real? Whose to say there's not a scene with Holmes in the movie? The Database at the current moment of this posting has 11,325 scenes listed in it...so that means there have been 11,325 scenes of bondage, and obviously more unknown and unposted, in movies, T.V., etc. But apparently adding a scene with Katie Holmes must not be able to happen even though it's happened to other actresses approx. 11,325 times, but Katie Holmes...no, of course not, LOL! Remember Disturbing Behavior...it wasn't a great scene but it was bondage none-the-less.
Friday April 22 05:35:35 2005
The Katie Holmes Countdown Begins
Ya'll be haters just jealous cuz Beave saw a pic you didn't! If yer so sure there ain't a scene, then don't bother seeing it at all when it comes out..but of course you will, which just proves yer not so sure as you think. Only 56 more days till then here's something to feast yer eyes on

btw, don't let 'em bug you out Beaver
http://www.khfan.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_mod_015.jpg
A believer in the beaver
Friday April 22 06:10:12 2005
Re: Newest Member of the Five Time B&G Club
Jay L wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
>
> > It's also airing on the B&G-friendly Lifetime
> Network
> > in the U.S.
>

I assume you're referring to "Malevolence", the movie that has enabled Madchen Amick to enter the exclusive "Bound and Gagged At Least Five Times Club". Is this movie available on DVD, or can it be watched only on Lifetime?
Hadji
Friday April 22 07:54:15 2005
Newest Member of the Five Time B&G Club
> > It's also airing on the B&G-friendly
Lifetime Network in the U.S.
> > >
> I assume you're referring to "Malevolence", the movie that has enabled Madchen Amick to enter the exclusive "Bound and Gagged At Least Five Times Club".
----
I think the reference was to "Lies and Deception" (2004), which Kevin was good enough to post in the "VCR Alerts" section for April 25.
Kinky-napper
Friday April 22 11:12:19 2005
DataBase Compilation Tapes
tj wrote:
i am really not into 'gagging' like it seems everyone else is here...i am more into bondage, especially barefoot bondage. Most of the Chivalry Comp. DVD's etc feature only the face being gagged...not really exciting to me although i like duct tape gags.

> I guess I am forgotten on this board.
> 46 * 2 hour VHS/NTSC video tapes.
> Custom tapes.
> http://bindherupx.net/videos.htm

tj
Friday April 22 11:16:34 2005
Re: DataBase Compilation Tapes
> tj wrote:
> I really haven't been able to find any decent mainstream
>
> bondage compilation tapes anywhere....
> ______________________________________
I have a couple also (203 as of now). Also have dvd and specialty tapes/dvds.
Take a look see
FUZZ
fzfamily@aol.com
http://www.dangerbeach.net/fuzzweb
Friday April 22 11:22:40 2005
Fuzz: Scene ID
Fuzz, the scene you are trying to ID on your website - the last one, with the gal tied arms above, cleave gagged: it sure looks like Angelica Rivera, who had that great scene in the 'La Duena' soap.
zinger
Friday April 22 11:25:03 2005
Updates - and now TWICE weekly!
Okay boys - I've gone out on a limb for this - EXPENSIVE! and literally sitting on pins and needles all week waiting for loan approval to make it all come together and afford to do TWICE weekly updates.
Anyway, to make a long story short, the upside is that Major John's is updated with two new clips - now twice weekly.
Downside is .... World Bank chairman Paul Wolfowitz put his foot down and is demanding that I post the Katie Holmes -hogtie/cleavegagged episode, or they'll only loan me 2 billion to cover bandwidth costs....
Ya gotta bail me out boys ......!!
Major John
silent_night_022003@yahoo.com
http://www.bindher.com
Friday April 22 11:29:21 2005
Elisha and wax
Morning guys. I just ran across a minute clip for House of Wax. It shows Elisha struggling while taped to a gurney or something. She also has her lips glued and is trying to get the attention of Murray's character.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/houseofwax.html
JJ
Friday April 22 11:39:43 2005
Re: Elisha and wax
Pretty cool scene. Would've preferred a conventional gag but nice nonetheless
Friday April 22 11:59:55 2005
Re: Clarification request:
The Moderator wrote:

> That's it, you're banned.

I'll take that as a confirmed "yes".
Anubis
Friday April 22 12:04:56 2005
Re: The Katie Holmes Countdown Begins
A believer in the beaver wrote:

> Ya'll be haters just jealous cuz Beave saw a pic you
> didn't! If yer so sure there ain't a scene, then don't
> bother seeing it at all when it comes out..but of course
> you will, which just proves yer not so sure as you think.
> Only 56 more days till then here's something to feast yer
> eyes on
>
> btw, don't let 'em bug you out Beaver

Well, I'd like to believe, but why can't anyone produce the pic now; I'm not clear on that? Besides, there's been plenty of examples of B&G that don't make the film or turn to just B and not G. That pic, if it exists, may be all anyone ever sees. But the way she's dressed in that pic with Batman holding her... as Johnny Carson use to say "she's a ha, ha, hot girl!

Doc S.
Friday April 22 12:09:44 2005
The Interpreter
Doesn't look like much in way of potential. Slight possibility:

Gamba breaks into Silvia's apartment, but Tobin, watching from across the street, rushes over and kills him. Silvia flees the apartment and disappears.
http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/interpreter.html
Friday April 22 13:01:15 2005
Katie Holmes
An important Japanese magazine at a trading show in LA but Beaver does not speak Japanese. Let's see: A picture of Katie Holmes hogtied and cleave gagged in a foreign magazine what should I do? I could buy the magazine, memorize the title or walk away. I think I'll walk away and then hunt for the magazine on the internet.

If this is not a hoax I'll be as happy as the next guy but everything about this magazine is a mystery. Guys like us don't forget titles even if they are in Japanese.
J Par
Friday April 22 13:43:07 2005
Re: The Major's Post
Major John wrote:

> World Bank chairman Paul Wolfowitz put
> his foot down

Your fault,
you realise you spoiled him with that recent wrap around black tape gag one.
[Renata Arquilla (sp?)]

Btw: The poisoned goldfish gave an Oscar worthy performance!
Jay L
Friday April 22 13:51:38 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
J Par wrote:

> Let's see: A picture
> of Katie Holmes hogtied and cleave gagged in a foreign
> magazine what should I do? I could buy the magazine,
> memorize the title or walk away.

Thats the way I see it. Why didn't he buy the magazine, and why would he flip through a magazine written in a foreign language?

I also think a domestic magazine would have stills from the movie before an imported magazine would. Domestic foilm companies aren't goin g to give exclusive pics to a foreign film whoile excluding the dozens of local fanboy magazines printed in the U.S.

I'd say it's a hoax, and unfortunately the rumors and speculation have already begun to flourish.
Anubis
Friday April 22 14:05:26 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
Anubis wrote:

> I'd say it's a hoax, and unfortunately the rumors and
> speculation have already begun to flourish.

Shocked it's gone this far. The board has been flooded with bogus crap all week, including the stuff on "The Skeleton Key" where two posters claimed to have seen pre-screening 4 months before the release of the movie.

It's not even a good hoax. A good one would have been "Katie Holmes gets a tape-gag scene in "Batman." Hog-tie in a movie aimed at younger audiences? And a photo still in a Japanese magazine? Someone is enjoying this right now, unless he's banned, of course.
Friday April 22 14:23:20 2005
Re: Elisha and wax
> Pretty cool scene. Would've preferred a conventional gag

So we must Acept that this time The Alert is for Real, not a FAKE?

Jay
argentinosjpc@aol.com
Friday April 22 15:07:15 2005
My response to all who've posted on Katie's scene
Eddie not to worry... the picture does exist... it's *bound* to turn up eventually keep searching... btw anyone calling you stupid should probably not be taken seriously...

Alfred, and I say this respectfully, I'm afraid your post about my post about Katie Holmes being hogtied being bogus is bogus...

Anubis... it's no hoax, and it's no joke...

X... cleave my ass out of this... get it? CLEAVE instead of LEAVE...

Anon22 and J Par... the Japanese symbols I wasn't in hog heaven about... it was Katie Holmes being hogtied that struck me... I thought for sure I'd find a domestic mag with the same pic, one I could read the article about... I kick myself now for not grabbing it when I had the chance...

DG... I use :) to indicate that the word "dammit" is not being used IN ANGER, but FOR EMPHASIS... and btw I never said anything about Katie being "stripped to her bra and panties"... Methinks thy fantasies run away with thee...

I appreciate the posts from those in my defense... e.g. Lance, John7884, A Believer in the Beaver... At first I wasn't even gonna post at all... I know I wouldn't believe it... but then I was like what the hell I might as well share it... So take it or CLEAVE it...
Beaver the Cleaver
Friday April 22 15:08:21 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
> J Par wrote:
>
> > Let's see: A picture
> > of Katie Holmes hogtied and cleave gagged in a
> foreign
> > magazine what should I do? I could buy the
> magazine,
> > memorize the title or walk away.

All I can say is that I work in the L.A. area in the theatre business and there was a Japanese magazine convention of some kind that took place some time ago and I do remember seeing poster boards of pictures. I never actually saw the picture Beaver was speaking of but I did many screencap-like posters from certain films, none of which I recognized though. I'm telling all of you now, no B.S., the show Beaver speaks of is true...was there a picture of Holmes B&G? I can't say...but there was a mag. show that took place. I actually considered buying a piece of work from it but never did.

Friday April 22 15:08:23 2005
Re: Newest Member of the Five Time B&G Club
Hadji wrote:

> Jay L I assume you're referring to "Malevolence",

No,

this the one:

Record number: 11324

Title: Lies and Deception (2004)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Mädchen Amick aka Madchen Amick

Description: Near the end of this Canadian movie, Madchen's character is held captive in a warehouse. She wears a tight top and jeans. Her wrists are tied to the arms of the chair(with duct tape I believe.) She is gagged OTM with a scarf. A woman threatens to inject her with a syringe to kill her. Rescued in the nick of time, of course.
Jay L
Friday April 22 15:15:37 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> B.S., the show Beaver speaks of is true...was there a
> picture of Holmes B&G?

Posted exactly ONE minute after Beaver posted.
I'm not going to post anything further on the subject. I think this may be a matter for ..... Old Hitler.
Anubis
Friday April 22 15:21:17 2005
Re: Madchen Amick
Kinky-napper wrote:

> I think the reference was to "Lies and
> Deception" (2004), which Kevin was good enough to
> post in the "VCR Alerts" section for April 25.

Correct,

Going to get this clipped for fellas that don't get the good United States Lifetime channel.
Jay L
Friday April 22 15:30:33 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
Pic shows her being rescued (perhaps after being untied)
http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2005_batman_begins_033.html
Friday April 22 15:34:44 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
Anubis wrote:

> I'm not going to post anything further on the subject. I
> think this may be a matter for ..... Old Hitler.

I agree. Why the hell has this gone on for this long? Furthermore, why is Beaver referring to me in his posts? The only comment I had on the matter was deleted from the board, and even so, I simply bought into what Beaver said and commended his effort. Oh well -- I'm already giving it more thought than it deserves. If she has a scene, great, if not, whatever -- Alba is getting tape gagged, and there's no BS about it; thus, I'm happy.

ANYWAY - Major, you rock. Two updates a week is demanding, take it from a guy who worked his VideoGame DiD site for a few months before getting too preoccupied away from the computer, AND lazy to keep updating. I salute you, sir -- You've really become a serious DiD force. And you're Canadian, too - So, of course, mad respect for that.

X
Friday April 22 15:35:03 2005
Re: Page Design
The Engineer wrote:

> I don't
> really know what causes that, so I haven't come up with
> a fix, or even a way to test it.

Maybe restoring it on a limited basis just to get enough traffic to test it. That would give you some controllable results to analyze.

I know we have some pretty intelligent programmers out there, maybe they have some ideas?
Anubis
Friday April 22 15:38:00 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
X wrote:

> Alba is getting tape gagged

Not gonna go there.
Anubis
Friday April 22 15:40:50 2005
Re: X - Shirley Holmes
Jay L wrote:

> for assist:
> Either went with a Nestor Burma ep?, or Avengers, ep:
> "Death on the Rocks" (2.10)
> Good Luck

Thanks a lot for the help, it was really reassuring to see such a great response. Btw, your scene DVDs rock.

X
Friday April 22 15:42:50 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
Anubis wrote:

> (unsigned poster) Posted exactly ONE minute after Beaver posted.
> I'm not going to post anything further on the subject. I
> think this may be a matter for ..... Old Hitler.

Yep,

see some of the hints weren't taken,
and posts have already started disappearing
Jay L
Friday April 22 15:43:43 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Pic shows her being rescued (perhaps after being untied)
> http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2005_batman_begins_033.
> html

Yeah, she *does* have that recently-been-hogtied look about her, doesn't she.

Hey... here's a thought: Let's wait 'til the movie comes out!

Nevermind. What was I thinking?? :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday April 22 16:11:51 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
Van wrote:

>
> Hey... here's a thought: Let's wait 'til the movie comes
> out!
>
> Nevermind. What was I thinking?? :-)
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/

This whole thing started with a post stating that someone saw a pic in a japanese magazine. Now, most of the regulars to this site are intelligent, no bs individuals. why would someone make that up? what would be the point?
eddie
Friday April 22 16:24:54 2005
Re: Newest Member of the Five Time B&G Club
Jay L wrote:

> Description: Near the end of this Canadian movie,
> Madchen's character is held captive in a warehouse. She
> wears a tight top and jeans. Her wrists are tied to the
> arms of the chair(with duct tape I believe.) She is
> gagged OTM with a scarf.

Lifetime is airing another movie the next night called "Deception" with Dina Meyer. Good premise. Don't know if anyone has seen this. Plus, after Dina's performance in the Bravo short movie scene, not really a big deal I guess.
Friday April 22 16:27:35 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
eddie wrote:

> This whole thing started with a post stating that someone
> saw a pic in a japanese magazine. Now, most of the
> regulars to this site are intelligent, no bs individuals.
> why would someone make that up? what would be the point?

The point would be to get the board talking about it, which has happened, so the poster can then come back after the movie and have a laugh, then get banned. Remember the Lindsay Lohan "SNL" hoax? Plus the other hoaxes this week, plus the fake Veronica Mars alert?

Friday April 22 17:00:58 2005
re: Batman Begins
Beaver, not to beat a dead horse (maybe too late), but I was saying that I assummed your post re, Katie Holmes, was a joke, and only added that, if my assumption was right, it was pretty straight faced, as opposed to say, a truly outrageous claim such as "hog-tied and gagged in her underwear". I didn't mean to imply that you had said she was in her underwear.

Anyway, at the time I posted, I hadn't heard anything from you previous to your original exchange, which had subsequently been labeled a hoax by other posters (and, frankly, considered a good-natured hoax by yours truly). For that reason, I proposed that you clarify your intention, just in case you weren't joking. Now you have.

Personally, I'm willing to take your word for it. The fact is, I'm going to see the movie either way, and I hope to enjoy it either way (although I'll certainly enjoy it more if your scene is included). As for the overall plausibility of the claim: the Japanese are pretty hard-core about whatever it is they're into. I can definitely see some Batman-freaks getting a hold of stills that haven't made it through official domestic circles. From the following article, they are clearly "into" Batman Begins:

"Batman Begins" Premieres in Japan at the U.S. Pavilion of the 2005 World's Fair

WASHINGTON, Feb. 17, 2005 - The U.S. Pavilion and Warner Bros. Pictures Japan today announced that Warner Bros. Pictures' highly anticipated feature, "Batman Begins," will make its Japanese premiere at the World's Fair, Expo 2005 in Aichi, Japan. This screening is one of five pre-release screenings scheduled for Summer 2005 in Japan, and is part of a series of entertainment events that the U.S. Pavilion will offer throughout the Expo, which begins Mar. 25, 2005.

Now the world's fair runs through September, so that doesn't necessarily imply that it will be previewed before its domestic release.

But as it so happens, I will be going to Japan sometime in May. While I'm there, I will endeavor to locate the magazine. To that end, any info you remember about it would be helpful.
dg
Friday April 22 17:20:48 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
eddie wrote:

> Van wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey... here's a thought: Let's wait 'til the movie comes out!
> >
> > Nevermind. What was I thinking?? :-)
> http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
>
> This whole thing started with a post stating that someone
> saw a pic in a japanese magazine. Now, most of the
> regulars to this site are intelligent, no bs individuals.
> why would someone make that up? what would be the point?

I'm not calling anyone a liar *or* a hoaxer. I'm simply making the observation that until someone can shed any *real light* on the topic (like by sharing the URL of a photo from the movie with Katie in bondage) we should just... WAIT.

Publicity departments can be funny (as in unfathomably dense). The Official Web site for "House of Wax" sat there as a useless splash page for months & months, they *finally* decided to post some content, & there's not a hint of much of anything sinister much less DiD-ish in the photos... then they decide to share bondage photos with Fangoria! I wouldn't put it past the "Batman Begins" (or whatever the title is) hacks to decide to share with a Japanese magazine, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for them to give Hogties-Holmes photos wide distribution.
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Friday April 22 18:38:14 2005
Re: Elisha and wax
JJ wrote:

> Morning guys. I just ran across a minute clip for House
> of Wax. It shows Elisha struggling while taped to a
> gurney or something. She also has her lips glued

The clip site provided in JJ's post allows a full screen and a pause feature. When I did that it appears that she is actually gagged with clear tape. I dont know if that is the studios effect to try to convince the audience she was glued shut, or just an unfortunate camera angle that we cant see the tape clear...uh..er. However, if you pause the clip when she is looking toward the ceiling (and mmmphing I might add) you can see her lips and the surrounding area have been flattened as if by tape.

Anyway you shake it though, Elishas "wrapped" up another full Bound and gagged scene...and looks like it may actuall be quite leanthy...we only see her scene after she has broken part of the stretcher apart, obviously there must be the drama of her getting in that senerio and the gut-wrenching struggle to see if she can break free...all this BEFORE she is apparently strapped to a chair to be (maybe) covered in wax.....

Now if only I could capture the still frame from that clip...oh to be so computer stupid...whoa is me
Cleve
Friday April 22 19:56:46 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
eddie wrote:

Now, most of the regulars to this site are intelligent, no bs individuals.

I resent that comment!
All the regs know that I'm a total S**T head ;)

Beav if it was real, we're sorry, It just SCREAMED of a fake getyourhopesup4nuthin "joke"

as usual we will succumb to the sage advice of master Jedi Obi Van "wait til the movie comes out"
Snowcat
Friday April 22 19:57:25 2005
Re: Batman Begins
john7884 wrote:


> didnt u read the post. it was in japanese. anyway have 2
> agree with lance.. surfin da web n came up on this
> picture of katie almos exactly as beaver describe.


Here's some fascinating information *I* came up with.

It seems that posts from "lance", "john7884",
"A believer in the beaver" AND "Beaver the Cleaver"
all originate from the same IP address.

Imagine that.

Anyone want to guess what just happened to that IP?

Further, anyone want to bank on how accurate the original
report was?

The Engineer
Friday April 22 20:00:32 2005
Kings Ransom
Oh yeah and I told Y'all MONTHS ago this one had a scene with a hot nubian babe (who I mistook for Jada P. Smith) and I REALLY diod see her tied up in a magazine pic

unfortunately Anthony A shared her predicament but Oh well
Snowcat
Friday April 22 20:13:54 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
X wrote:


> I agree. Why the hell has this gone on for this long?

I needed a smoking gun, which his use of sockpuppets
today provided me.

The Moderator
Friday April 22 20:29:17 2005
Re: Page Design
Anubis wrote:

> The Engineer wrote:
>
> > so I haven't come up with
> > a fix, or even a way to test it.
>
> Maybe restoring it on a limited basis just to get enough
> traffic to test it. That would give you some controllable
> results to analyze.

I have to get with the hosting company. I haven't
figured a way even to find out what processes have
been spawned off.

The Engineer
Friday April 22 20:34:36 2005
Re: Batman Begins
The Engineer wrote:

> It seems that posts from "lance",
> "john7884",
> "A believer in the beaver" AND "Beaver the
> Cleaver"
> all originate from the same IP address.

This is why there's a "Sea of Red" font in amongst the recent Database entries.
Again
Buy, or tape those at your own risk
Jay L
Friday April 22 20:43:00 2005
Re: Batman Begins
The Engineer wrote:


> Anyone want to guess what just happened to that IP?


I'm going to leave up today's posts about this, I think.
I'm not sure which will be the more confusing.

The Moderator
Friday April 22 21:05:22 2005
Re: Batman Begins
Jay L wrote:

> This is why there's a "Sea of Red" font in
> amongst the recent Database entries.

I'll bounce those against that IP.

Brian R
Friday April 22 21:53:29 2005
Re: Katie Holmes
J Par wrote:
Let's see: A picture
of Katie Holmes hogtied and cleave gagged in a foreign magazine.

Excellent deductive analysis, 'Holmes' - but you neglected ONE critical fact - you can't post stuff on the internet if it isn't true.
Ha - gotcha!




Friday April 22 22:00:56 2005
Third Watch next week
One of the police officers daughters gets kidnapped on next weeks episode. Preview didn't show any bondage but its worth checking out just in case.
Friday April 22 22:11:28 2005
Re: Page Design
The Engineer wrote:
> I haven't
> figured a way even to find out what processes have
> been spawned off.

Not sure what database you're using, but my page also is generated with PHP and I've always tested it with an Apache server installed onto my local system (WinXP) before I upload it to derekbarkers.com (which I believe is a Linux box). I know we're straying off-topic here, but just had to contribute this suggestion.
Kerhop
Friday April 22 22:58:59 2005
New Nancy Drew Book
It's nice to know that the new Nancy Drew, Girl Detective series is continuing the tradition. In book #11, Riverboat Ruse, Nancy is handgagged, chloroformed, and bound and gagged. This time around, we get to read about Nancy's plight from her point of view, since the new stories are told in the first person.
Brian L
Friday April 22 23:10:56 2005
Re: New Nancy Drew Book
Brian L wrote:

> It's nice to know that the new Nancy Drew, Girl Detective
> series is continuing the tradition.

Good. Tomorrow I need to go to the bookstore anyway. I'd even go tonight, but I think Nancy Drew can wait a day.

gasface

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