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Sunday April 17 00:11:08 2005
Re: curious
> Val said:
> Who misses the old days and the "thrill of the
> hunt"/the collector's passion?

It depends on how far back you're willing to go. Yes, it was a coup securing a scene, but it made for wasting a lot of time recording a show for a few seconds of return (remember, this was the days before Brian's database).

Also, the thrill of the chase always was mitigated by what mom and dad would say if they found VHS tapes full of mainstream bondage scenes.

Having grown up with the thrill of the chase (fighting with two younger brothers and the parents for the TV and VCR), I'll take the current situation.

It's not all peaches and cream, though. Collections of TV shows are not cheap -- a season of a show can set you back at least $70. You have to ask yourself if it's worth it.
Lord Zoltar
Sunday April 17 00:25:12 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
Tapemaster wrote:

> That should be:
>
> Does anyone know the title of the episode FROM "The
> High
> Chapparal" where Linda Cristal gets bound and
> gagged?
>

I'm probably wrong but I don't think there's such a scene. I used to watch the show pretty regularly and don't remember any scene.
hallbird
Sunday April 17 00:27:42 2005
Re: curious
valkyrie wrote:

>> Who misses the old days and the "thrill of the
> hunt"/the collector's passion? Who is just as happy
> with the current situation of widely available and
> circulated caps and DVDs shared with a worldwide
> audience? I was just wondering about this. call me
> curious. hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. -val
http://valthesub.net

I miss the old days but not for that reason, I like right now a lot better. It's like some guys prefer the chase rather than the conquest; me I'm only for the conquest.
hallbird
Sunday April 17 00:32:31 2005
Re: curious
Jay L wrote:

> Spoiled as well,
> *But*
> the internet (this site), gives you a "crowd"
> for "getting the crowd into it", when you catch
> a wild foreign one they don't have.
> Then becomes fun again.

Oh, I agree 100 percent. Collecting now is much better than it was before thise site spoiled me. I may skip on minor scenes that don't interest me as much as they would have a decade ago, but there are 10 times more scenes that are much better that Id have never even heard about without this site and people like you, Fuzz, and all the others Ive traded with the last few years.
These days my collection is more emphasized on quality of DiD scenes rather than the quantity. Its a leaner, meaner, collection than it used to be.
Hell, I'll take one Medicopter scene over TEN Teri Hatcher scenes any day.
Anubis
Sunday April 17 01:00:14 2005
Re: To Valkyrie with regard to "the old days..."
Fettershackle wrote:

> Better in "the old days?" Trust me, kid, we've got it much better than we've ever had it. Enjoy it!

I would agree. In the past, there was far too much luck and chance involved. That still happens from time to time (the Peyton List scenes from this summer come to mind), but generally someone is going to grab a scene that I didn't get but would want to see.

gasface
Sunday April 17 05:59:37 2005
The High Chapparal
But if there WAS a scene with Linda Cristal, what where the circumstances of her scene? How was she tied, how was she gagged? Are there any hints for searching??
Guest
Sunday April 17 06:35:05 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
Guest wrote:

> But if there WAS a scene with Linda Cristal, what where
> the circumstances of her scene?

Captured by bandits while out riding, and taken, still on horseback, to their hideout, a shack in a canyon.

>How was she tied, how was
> she gagged?

Hands in front for horse control, bandanna OTM, IIRC.

She may have been b&g inside, too, but the show was on in someone else's house (ain't it always the way?), so I couldn't give it my undivided attention, and we went out before the end.

>Are there any hints for searching??

Those with unlimited time and stamina and unmetered accounts may care to check out http://www.thehighchaparral.com/epguide/htm

There were 98 eps, of which, according to another site, 34 are known to be still in existence. Note the spelling: one 'p', two 'r's. Happy hunting, pardners!




Sunday April 17 08:09:48 2005
Re: curious
>>>>>Anubis wrote:

>>>> Hell, I'll take one Medicopter scene over TEN Teri Hatcher scenes any day.<<<<<

Ye gads man... you mean even the one where she's cleave-gagged and tied to a chair up in an old bell tower? The one where she mmmphs for us and hops around while tied trying to get free and then trying to avoid getting shot? The one where she has those killer closeups of her gagged face with all those great expressions? The one that lasts several minutes?

That's a GREAT scene IMO, Teri's best.

True, Medicopter has had some fine scenes, but I think Teri's bell tower scene beats the best Medicopter scene.

http://www.greyweb.org/TH107.jpg
The Greyman
Sunday April 17 09:00:53 2005
Re: curious
Lord Zoltar wrote:

> It's not all peaches and cream, though. Collections of TV
> shows are not cheap -- a season of a show can set you
> back at least $70. You have to ask yourself if it's worth it.

Have you checked your local library? Mine has a lot of
the DVD releases of TV shows, such as CHARLIE'S ANGELS,
STARSKY AND HUTCH, the various LAW and ORDERs . . .
Greg
gb9304@yahoo.com
http://greggerbits.tripod.com
Sunday April 17 09:31:04 2005
Please help me identify these scenes
Thanks.
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/1.jpg
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/2.jpg
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/3.jpg
Jos
josdids@gmail.com
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/
Sunday April 17 09:32:10 2005
Please help me identify these scenes
Thanks.
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/4.jpg
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/5.jpg
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/6.jpg
Jos
josdids@gmail.com
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/
Sunday April 17 10:07:48 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Jos wrote:

> Thanks.
> http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/

Sorry, Jos, but all I'm seeing are red X's. No images.

Mad Dan
Sunday April 17 10:10:10 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
Guest wrote:

> But if there WAS a scene with Linda Cristal, what where
> the circumstances of her scene? How was she tied, how was
> she gagged? Are there any hints for searching??

I am not sure if it was the lovely Ms. Cristal, but I seem to recall a pretty good scene on HIGH CHAPPARAL (heck, it might not have even been HC!) where the damsel was kidnapped by some sort of traveling show, or Gypsies or something like that. She was kept bound and gagged in the sleeping compartment of a trailer. I couldn't wait for them to pull back the curtains to reveal the damsel.
Legend of the Wolf
Sunday April 17 10:28:10 2005
Re: Old Days
The things I recall most about "the old days" (Which for me was early 80's) was how incredibly expensive and frustrating everything was. It ain't cheap now, but back then for a regular working guy the prices for everything bondage-related was high.

The Greyman
Sunday April 17 10:29:02 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Mad Dan wrote:

> Jos wrote:
>
> > Thanks.
> > http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/
>
> Sorry, Jos, but all I'm seeing are red X's. No images.
>

This happens from time to time for some reason. There are two solutions:

Click on the pics with the right mouse button and select Show Picture.
Or click on the pics with the right mouse button, select properties and find the URL.

Or here are the URLS:
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/1.jpg (2.jpg and so on)
Jos
josdids@gmail.com
http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/
Sunday April 17 10:50:59 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Sorry Joe,

Don't recognise any of them.
Triple X
Sunday April 17 11:08:25 2005
Speaking of the "Old Days"...
... I'm once again looking to expand my serial collection. (I've already ordered "Tiger Woman" with Linda Stirling.) I noticed a copy of a 1949 "Batman and Robin" serial at Target, but alas, it has no DB entry. Does anyone know if it has simply been overlooked in being added, or if it is one of the rare serials without a female B&G?
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/anothermoviesite/200405Season.html
Sunday April 17 11:45:30 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Number two is melissa moore from killing zone.
Don't know the other two - I didn't have time, but try going through the caps at Jay L's site for the others.

http://www.bindher.com/silentnight/jayl.htm

http://bindher.com/silentnight/xkillingzone.jpg
Sunday April 17 12:27:12 2005
Updated the FreeNet page
Just added a pack of scenes based on requests via email, guestbook, and the trading forum.

Charlies Angels (Movie) - from a "behind the scenes" documentary

Cherry Falls - Brittany Murphy strapped to a chair and duct tape gagged

Witchblade ep "Sacrifice" with Marni Thompson tied to an altar
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/freenet/dist-img/CharliesAngelsCherryFallsWitchblade.jpg
Kerhop
http://www.derekbarkers.com/kerhopf/default.html
Sunday April 17 12:36:53 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Jos wrote:

> Thanks.
> http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/

You didn't ask about #9, but it's:

Record number: 1054

Title: Daniel Boone
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Lyn Peters

#10 is, I believe:

Record number: 4827

Title: Infierno en el Paraiso
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Itati Cantoral aka Itatí Cantoral


Brian R
Sunday April 17 12:51:40 2005
Re: Speaking of the "Old Days"...
G-MaN wrote:

> I noticed a copy of a 1949
> "Batman and Robin" serial at Target, but alas,
> it has no DB entry. Does anyone know if it has simply
> been overlooked in being added, or if it is one of the
> rare serials without a female B&G?

Yes, Vicki Vale gets tied and gagged by the bad guys about halfway through. Not a bad scene at all. I'll add it to the database as soon as I find out the episode title.
Anubis
Sunday April 17 13:01:14 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Number 6 is definitely

Title: Loving (1983) aka L.O.V.I.N.G.
Medium: Soap Opera
Actress: Noelle Beck

but I'm not sure Which Loving scene and you didn't ask but number 10 is

Record number: 815

Title: Charlie's Angels
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Lory Walsh

Description: Episode: "Angels on Skates" (4.10)

Lory plays a cute-as-a-button teen heiress/roller-skating queen who's kidnapped for ransom. She's shown tied up on a bed (wrists crossed in front/ankles) and detective gagged with a blue bandanna.

Lory also had a scene In Night Rider that would have been MUCH better if she was gagged like she is there
Snowcat
Sunday April 17 13:40:43 2005
Re: Please help me identify these scenes
Jos wrote:

> Or here are the URLS:
> http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/identify/1.jpg (2.jpg
> and so on)
> http://snow.prohosting.com/josdids/

I'm pretty sure number 8 is a commercial bondage model.
Number 1 is familiar, just can't put my finger on it. May have caps on my hd. Will check. I'm thinking 80s soap scene.
LV
Sunday April 17 14:09:09 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
>
> > But if there WAS a scene with Linda Cristal, what
> where
> > the circumstances of her scene?
>
> Captured by bandits while out riding, and taken, still on
> horseback, to their hideout, a shack in a canyon.

As I remember she wasn't gagged. She was wearing a Spanish style riding suit and black gloves and her hands were bound in front. There was nobody around to hear any screams. I remember being disappointed.


>
> She may have been b&g inside, too

No, the bandit is a former lover of hers. They do a LOT of talking during the episode because while he wants a ransom from the Cannons he hopes to talk Victoria around to coming back to Mexico with him.

There was one episode of Chapparal with a B&G scene but it wasn't Victoria.


Tom Quin
tmquin@attglobal.net
Sunday April 17 15:32:59 2005
WHAT MOVIE?
I remember as a wee lad a Randolph Scott western in which he confronts a blond in a hotel room. At scene's end he siezes her and begins to gag her with a black scarf. Next scene has her bound hands-behind and detective gagged lying on her bed. The maid comes in and asks, after freeing her, "did someone tie you up?", and the damsel snaps, "no, I always sleep like this!" All I can recall from TV listings whenever I saw it was that its year of release was 1957 or 1958. The title completely escapes me and looking at IMDb descriptions of RS's films for those years has been no help. Any one else ever see it? Remember the title?
Sunday April 17 15:38:49 2005
Re: The High Chapparal

> There was one episode of Chapparal with a B&G scene
> but it wasn't Victoria.


Didn't watch HS all that much but I recall one where a young schoolmarm was kidnapped by Apaches and bound wrists-behind and bit-gagged.
Sunday April 17 16:31:28 2005
Scenes on DVD
Has anyone ever heard of one of the soap operas putting out their previous stuff on DVD - like Days/1992 or something?
A long shot, but sure would be nice
Daytime fan
Sunday April 17 17:09:36 2005
Re: Scenes on DVD
Daytime fan wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of one of the soap operas putting
> out their previous stuff on DVD - like Days/1992 or
> something?
> A long shot, but sure would be nice

Beyond long shot. How many soap fans will buy a 3 gazillion disc set.
They used to make "Best Of" type tapes, like Best Weddings, Daytime's Hottest Couples, Most Memorable Scenes, etc. I doubt they would have done Best Bindings though.
LV
Sunday April 17 19:34:30 2005
Italian pics
The 1st is a pic of Italian actress Anna Galiena, I don't know where it came from.

The 2nd is a tongue-tied (or tied tongue) pic of Italian actress Claudia Gerini.

Ciao!
http://big.supereva.com/gallery/Attrici_Italiane/Anna_Galiena/Anna_089.jpg
http://big.supereva.com/gallery/Attrici_Italiane/Claudia_Gerini/gerini034.jpg
paolo
Sunday April 17 20:49:50 2005
Re: WHAT MOVIE?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I remember as a wee lad a Randolph Scott western in which
> he confronts a blond in a hotel room. At scene's end he
> siezes her and begins to gag her with a black scarf. Next
> scene has her bound hands-behind and detective gagged
> lying on her bed. The maid comes in and asks, after
> freeing her, "did someone tie you up?", and the
> damsel snaps, "no, I always sleep like this!"
> All I can recall from TV listings whenever I saw it was
> that its year of release was 1957 or 1958. The title
> completely escapes me and looking at IMDb descriptions of
> RS's films for those years has been no help. Any one else
> ever see it? Remember the title?


...I'm glad someone else brought up this one because I was beginning to think my fertile imagination and/or scene creep were the reasons that I couldn't get this scene off of my mind. I can't remember the name of the movie either, but I'm sure Randolph Scott starred. My best recollection is that the film ran on Encore-Westerns Channel about 3-4 years ago, and I've been waiting to see it again ever since. The scene of interest occured early on, perhaps within the first 15-20 minutes, and though it's brief [about a minute], it's outstanding. I've gone through the complete IMDb filmography for Scott, and nothing rings true. With bated breath I await more input on this one.
Overlooker
Sunday April 17 20:54:17 2005
Re: Scenes on DVD
LV wrote:

> Beyond long shot. How many soap fans will buy a 3
> gazillion disc set.
> They used to make "Best Of" type tapes, like
> Best Weddings, Daytime's Hottest Couples, Most Memorable
> Scenes, etc. I doubt they would have done Best Bindings though.

I'm sure the soap execs have discussed this with the DVD craze but they're powerless to market this stuff. With no "season" and 250-plus episodes a year it would be impossible to package those into DVDs. The "best weddings" offering would be interesting, since they're usually is someone getting tied up to prevent interference. Of course, "best daytime bondage" would sell in these parts, and I'd bet it would make more money than "Knight Rider" Season 2.
Sunday April 17 21:21:17 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> There were 98 eps, of which, according to another site,
> 34 are known to be still in existence.

I don't know what site that is but it's just flat out wrong. All 98 episodes of "High Chaparral" are still available in syndication. Fox is the distributor. In fact, Hallmark has been running that 98 episode package for at least a year.

Before airing on Hallmark, it aired on the Family Channel and in the early 90's it aired five days a week on the now defunct and greatly missed Foxnet for about three years.
CM
Sunday April 17 22:26:07 2005
Re: WHAT MOVIE?
> ...I'm glad someone else brought up this one because I
> was beginning to think my fertile imagination and/or
> scene creep were the reasons that I couldn't get this
> scene off of my mind. I can't remember the name of the
> movie either, but I'm sure Randolph Scott starred. My
> best recollection is that the film ran on Encore-
> Westerns Channel about 3-4 years ago, and I've been
> waiting to see
> it again ever since. The scene of interest occured early
> on, perhaps within the first 15-20 minutes, and though
> it's brief [about a minute], it's outstanding. I've gone
> through the complete IMDb filmography for Scott, and
> nothing rings true. With bated breath I await more input > on this one.


I think it could be Shootout At Medicine Bend from 1957. The blonde in that is Dani Crayne. I have a picture of that I bought years ago from Movie Star News. Blonde lying on bed with black otm gag.
I saw this a year or two ago on AMC or TCM, but missed the beginning, so didn't see a scene.
I've put the IMDB link in the homepage of this post.
LV
http://imdb.com/title/tt0050963/
Sunday April 17 22:32:57 2005
Re: Scenes on DVD
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Of course, "best daytime bondage"
> would sell in these parts, and I'd bet it would make
> more money than "Knight Rider" Season 2.

I'll take that bet.

Don't forget all those Hasselhoff fans in Europe. I think they'd buy anything he did, even a DVD of his best moments on Young & the Restless (Holy oxymoron, Batman!).

And most of the inhabitants of "these parts" wouldn't buy the "best daytime bondage" DVD, but impatiently demand every scene be capped and clipped on the net for free.
:-))
LV
Sunday April 17 22:54:29 2005
Re: WHAT MOVIE?

> I think it could be Shootout At Medicine Bend from 1957.
> The blonde in that is Dani Crayne. I have a picture of
> that I bought years ago from Movie Star News. Blonde
> lying on bed with black otm gag.
> I saw this a year or two ago on AMC or TCM, but missed
> the beginning, so didn't see a scene.
> I've put the IMDB link in the homepage of this post.

Yes , I'll bet that's the one. I just found a grainy head shot of her on something called glamourgirlsofthesilverscreen.com and it did look pretty much like the girl I remembered-- not that my memory was that perfect.

Graf Knebel
Sunday April 17 23:00:08 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
> I'm probably wrong but I don't think there's such a
> scene. I used to watch the show pretty regularly and
> don't remember any scene.

According to Allen Marburger (who is one of the first people to catalogue DiD scenes) there is a scene of Linda Cristal ("Victoria") bound and gagged in a desert setting. At any rate, it is worth investigating. The High Chapparal is currently being shown on the Hallmark channel.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Sunday April 17 23:03:59 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
>
> I recall one where a
> young schoolmarm was kidnapped by Apaches and bound
> wrists-behind and bit-gagged.

Linda Cristal's character (Victoria) IS a school teacher.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Sunday April 17 23:22:51 2005
Re: WHAT MOVIE?

> Yes , I'll bet that's the one. I just found a grainy head
> shot of her on something called
> glamourgirlsofthesilverscreen.com and it did look pretty
> much like the girl I remembered-- not that my memory was that perfect.


And wudenchano, it's already in the database. I didn't find it at first 'cause I typed "shootout" instead of "shoot-out".
Sunday April 17 23:27:11 2005
Re: The High Chapparal
Tapemaster wrote:

> >
> > I recall one where a
> > young schoolmarm was kidnapped by Apaches and bound
>
> > wrists-behind and bit-gagged.
>
> Linda Cristal's character (Victoria) IS a school
> teacher.

As you say, tho I think this particular schoolmarm was a guest star. I just remember her looking more "Anglo" than Linda Cristal.



Graf Knebel
Sunday April 17 23:42:36 2005
Re: WHAT MOVIE?
Overlooker wrote:

> and though
> it's brief [about a minute], it's outstanding.

It's all of 33 seconds, and there is a cap at the link.
G-MaN
gman22471@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/cliplistszcaps/ClipListSZCaps.html
Sunday April 17 23:46:13 2005
Re: Batman and Robin
Anubis wrote:

> Yes, Vicki Vale gets tied and gagged by the bad guys
> about halfway through. Not a bad scene at all.

Thanks you for the info Anubis.
G-MaN
gman22471@yaho.com

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