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Friday April 15 00:34:39 2005
Re: DVD release dates
Yellow B wrote:

> Has someone been able to compare the comic book and movie
> to tell if a gag scene was cut or just rejigged?

Didn't anyone read that one post of mine a week or two ago? I have Sin City, and I've done some investigating. I'm going to have to appologize right now though, if I'm wrong -- Again, this is only the speculation of a huge Alba fan, digging for any DiD he can get. There's a shot in the movie identical to the panel from "That Yellow Bastard' I've shown below. In this shot, I believe Alba does have a thin cleave, just as Nancy should in the comic book. Even if I'm right, it's one measley shot, and I doubt the DVD would cover any subsequent material. Point is, it's SOMETHING to hope for; and goddamn, if hope isn't good for ya'.

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http://members.aol.com/heiiandback/sincityshot.jpg
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Friday April 15 00:42:51 2005
Attn: Fans of Asian Girls
Major John wrote:

> delighted to announce that it'll be up this weekend -
> Korean Girls (MY fave) and a
> couple of other tidbits - check back Saturday.

Okay,
this must be the post.
So I'll sort this here.

Right off, Korean in update not:
Libera me (2000) [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289278/]
Gyu-ri Kim, or Kim Gyu-ri [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0453589/]
The one want checked into over Gyu-ri Kim head to head with psychotic arsonist plot.

The Major has a different one.
Libera me not scheduled to air on CJMT-OMNI 2 till June 18th @9pm.

Source of the problem likely the "bad trade with US" crack, back when "Judging Amy" replaced "Der Clown" before we could catch ep: "Das Duel"
(forget whom coined that?)
but the *only* recents were "Everybody Loves Raymond" replacing "Distretto di Polizia" and some Billy Ray Cyrus show replacing "The Bill" right before a requested scene.

2nd problem is an air-sched goof. Upcoming "The Phantom" on OMNI is not the US one with Kristy Swanson,
it's
Yuryeong (1999) aka Phantom aka Phantom: The Submarine
[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0226663/]

3rd problem, "Libera me" not coming up anymore as OMNI site has it "Librea Me"

As of yet, OMNI hasn't pulled a TLN, or Showcase.
Can keep thoughts positive on this one.
Jay L
Friday April 15 01:07:04 2005
Re: Sin City
The interesting thing about the film version of Sin City substituting the injection for the gag is that in the original comics issue of That Yellow Bastard, the cover of issue #4 shows TYB with a syringe in his hand. I wonder if (given that the cover was probably done after the interiors) Miller decided he'd rather have done the drug, not a gag, in the first place.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday April 15 08:20:17 2005
Re: Pacifier
Major John wrote:

> I probably would have enjoyed it as a 13 year old as
> well, I suppose.

Ahem..

I happened to post that entry...

any more comments like that and I'll throw a tantrum and hit you with my rattle!
;)



Snowcat
Friday April 15 09:20:45 2005
Re: Sin City
Jeb wrote:

> The interesting thing about the film version of Sin City
> substituting the injection for the gag is that in the
> original comics issue of That Yellow Bastard, the cover
> of issue #4 shows TYB with a syringe in his hand. I
> wonder if (given that the cover was probably done after
> the interiors) Miller decided he'd rather have done the
> drug, not a gag, in the first place.
> http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound

This is not criticism (certainly not of you, Jeb), but an excuse to reiterate one of my favorite axioms:

"VAN's FIRST LAW of MAINSTREAM DiD-SCENES—It'd *never* about the bondage; It's *always* about the STORY."

Robert Rodriguez & Frank Miller labored like Hercules to transcribe the graphic novels to the screen, panel-by-panel; HOWEVER, *some* adjustment was inevitable. The decision to lose the gag was probably one of a million such deletions, additions, subtle changes. Of course, if one of *us* was involved, it would have turned into "Gwendoline Visits Sin City"... but we weren't. Life goes on, & the world is richer (in a Noir sort of way) thanks to Rodriguez & Miller. :-)
http://www.elmulticine.com/imagenes/noticias/sincity.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday April 15 10:44:33 2005
Re: DVD release dates
> Yellow Bastard' I've shown below. In this shot, I believe
> Alba does have a thin cleave, just as Nancy should in the
> comic book. Even if I'm right, it's one measley shot,

Anyone else see a gag in the movie?
http://people.freenet.de/dbMerlindb/alba4.jpg
Friday April 15 11:19:28 2005
'Marriage is Murder'
A play by Nick Hall. Check it out if it ever comes to your area.

http://www.risingstarproductions.org/gallery.html

http://www.offshoot.org/MarriageisMurder.html
http://paradiseplayhouse.com/pix/scrapbook/mim2/mim080.jpg
http://www.mcircle.org/curtain/20011112/pics/mm2_sm.jpg
http://www.offshoot.org/pictures/MarriageisM1.JPG
Canuck
http://www.mcircle.org/shows/marriage_is_murder/
Friday April 15 11:31:02 2005
Re: 'Marriage is Murder'
> A play by Nick Hall. Check it out if it ever comes to
> your area.

Also 'Abducting Diana' by Dario Fo

We're Abducting Diana,
We really are not scared.
We're Abducting Diana,
Do you think the press have heard?

Held in an ice-cream fact'ry,
She was gagged and chained and bound.
She had to use her talents,
Worked those nasty villains round.
http://www.edwardstheatre.co.uk/productions/diana.html
Friday April 15 11:31:55 2005
Re: 'Marriage is Murder'
Also 'Abducting Diana' by Dario Fo
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1870259459.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Friday April 15 11:43:29 2005
Penelope Cruz Handgagged
Sort of
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/10/28/dontmove_wideweb__430x302.jpg
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/28/1098667892488.html?from=storylhs
Friday April 15 11:58:53 2005
also, Psycho Beach Party...
provided the role of Chiclet is played by a girl (sometimes a guy. ew.) you'll find a few pics of cuties if you search. here's one.
eddie
http://www.emmettaiello.com/images/psy8.jpg
Friday April 15 12:18:45 2005
Re: also, Psycho Beach Party...
> provided the role of Chiclet is played by a girl
> (sometimes a guy. ew.) you'll find a few pics of cuties
> if you search. here's one.

And another
http://mirrorimageorigin.collegepublisher.com/media/paper680/stills/wrharq0t.jpg
http://www.thencccommuter.org/news/2005/01/04/Entertainment/psycho.Beach.Party-830517.shtml
Friday April 15 12:36:42 2005
Re: 'Marriage is Murder'
> Also 'Abducting Diana' by Dario Fo
>

Great way to support the arts
http://www.trumpetvinetheatrecompany.org/images/diana1.jpg
http://www.trumpetvinetheatrecompany.org/past_shows/diana.html
Friday April 15 12:37:17 2005
Psycho Beach Party Movie
Lauren Ambrose played Chicklet but I've never seen it. Do they keep this scene intact?
eddie
Friday April 15 13:00:11 2005
Re: Abducting Diana
> Held in an ice-cream fact'ry,
> She was gagged and chained and bound.
> She had to use her talents,
> Worked those nasty villains round.

Similiar lyrics in 'Urinetown'

Look at here there
All bound up, gagged and tied
With her head full of hair
And her heart full of pride!

http://www.dailycal.org/images/art/07.18.urinetown.jpg
Friday April 15 13:24:49 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
eddie wrote:

> Lauren Ambrose played Chicklet but I've never seen it. Do
> they keep this scene intact?

*LAUREN AMBROSE*??!!

[Insert 30 second cartoon of Van whooping & bouncing off the walls like a supersonic superball here.]

So... has anyone seen the DVD? :-)
http://www.media-g.net/stockage/images/noyau_infos/0/0/3/5/4/6/4428.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday April 15 13:42:33 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Van wrote:

> eddie wrote:
>
> > Lauren Ambrose played Chicklet but I've never seen
> it. Do
> > they keep this scene intact?
>
> *LAUREN AMBROSE*??!!
>
> [Insert 30 second cartoon of Van whooping & bouncing
> off the walls like a supersonic superball here.]
>
> So... has anyone seen the DVD? :-)
> http://www.lovetied.com/dug/

I saw it on cable once, and if there's a scene it's decidedly blink-and-you-miss-it. Los Straitjackets are in it, though, so it's not a total loss.
Jeb
jebdel@yahoo.com
http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
Friday April 15 13:48:01 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Van wrote:

> *LAUREN AMBROSE*??!!
> [Insert 30 second cartoon of Van whooping & bouncing
> off the walls like a supersonic superball here.]
> So... has anyone seen

Damn air-sched acting up,
for now:

Psycho Beach Party 2000 (Comédie)
*Lauren Ambrose*, Nathan Bexton, Nicholas Brendon, Thomas Gibson
"Sur une plage de Californie, l'adolescente Florence Chicklet Forest fraternise avec un groupe de surfeurs. Mais lorsque plusieurs de ses nouveaux amis sont assassinés, la jeune fille, qui souffre de dédoublements de la personnalité, est aussitôt soupçonnée."
__________________________________________________

Leave with me,
I'll check into this, make clip, pass around, etc.
Jay L
Friday April 15 13:52:57 2005
Re: Sin City
Van wrote:

> Jeb wrote:
>
> > The interesting thing about the film version of Sin
> City
> > substituting the injection for the gag is that in
> the
> > original comics issue of That Yellow Bastard, the
> cover
> > of issue #4 shows TYB with a syringe in his hand. I
>
> > wonder if (given that the cover was probably done
> after
> > the interiors) Miller decided he'd rather have done
> the
> > drug, not a gag, in the first place.
> > http://www.homestead.com/jebsadventurebound
>
> This is not criticism (certainly not of you, Jeb), but an
> excuse to reiterate one of my favorite axioms:
>
> "VAN's FIRST LAW of MAINSTREAM DiD-SCENES—It'd
> *never* about the bondage; It's *always* about the
> STORY."
>
> Robert Rodriguez & Frank Miller labored like Hercules
> to transcribe the graphic novels to the screen,
> panel-by-panel; HOWEVER, *some* adjustment was
> inevitable. The decision to lose the gag was probably
> one of a million such deletions, additions, subtle
> changes. Of course, if one of *us* was involved, it
> would have turned into "Gwendoline Visits Sin
> City"... but we weren't. Life goes on, & the
> world is richer (in a Noir sort of way) thanks to Rodriguez & Miller. :-)
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/


As always, there's logic in this argument, and I'm certainly not "complaining" about the lack of a scene.

However, in this case, I think it does make for some interesting speculation because this is one of only two examples in the movie of that level of deviation from the source material. Honestly, there are nowhere near "a million such deletions, additions, subtle changes" of the same scale (and it's probably the only movie any of us have ever seen where that's true). I mean, you can COUNT the number of bandages on Rourke's face-- these people were outright fetishistic in their faithfulness to the images on the page.

So, it's natural that people have asked the question, "why the change"?. And having dug out my old comic issues (as opposed to the graphic novel collection), I realized that the syringe was something Miller was contemplating at one point in the creative process of the comic itself. No point to make there-- just info.

Oh, the other deviation? Nudity (or its absence). In the book, Hartigan is nude when he's hung up, and Nancy has a nude scene-- and are the fanboys ever burning up the 'Net over that one!
Jeb
Friday April 15 14:03:28 2005
Attn: Van- Psycho Beach
> Van wrote: *LAUREN AMBROSE*??!!
> Psycho Beach Party 2000 (Comédie)
> *Lauren Ambrose*,

Here, it scheduled to go June 19th, 9pm on CHUM-CITY "DriveIN Classics"
At most longest Collectors have to wait for clips, pass around, etc.
As likely someone has, or air earlier, etc
Jay L
Friday April 15 14:26:46 2005
Re: Penelope Cruz Handgagged
And she hsd two minimal tie-ups in Sahara, once hands behind and once hands in front (no gags).
Ron
southbound@webtv.net
Friday April 15 14:35:00 2005
Re: Sin City
> Oh, the other deviation? Nudity (or its absence). In the
> book, Hartigan is nude when he's hung up,

Not that anyone wants to see Bruce Willis in that state

Friday April 15 14:48:27 2005
Re: Home and Away
> Negative - the scene this weekend is Tammin Sursok
> > Clip will be on his site soon.

Fuzz has caps at his site

http://www.dangerbeach.net/fuzzweb/homeandaway.html
Friday April 15 14:59:39 2005
Re: Sin City
Jeb wrote:

> Van wrote:
>
> > "VAN's FIRST LAW of MAINSTREAM DiD-SCENES—It's
> > *never* about the bondage; It's *always* about the
> > STORY."
> >

> As always, there's logic in this argument, and I'm
> certainly not "complaining" about the lack of a
> scene.
>
> However, in this case, I think it does make for some
> interesting speculation because this is one of only two
> examples in the movie of that level of deviation from the
> source material. Honestly, there are nowhere near "a
> million such deletions, additions, subtle changes"
> of the same scale (and it's probably the only movie any
> of us have ever seen where that's true). I mean, you can
> COUNT the number of bandages on Rourke's face-- these
> people were outright fetishistic in their faithfulness to
> the images on the page.
>
> So, it's natural that people have asked the question,
> "why the change"?. And having dug out my old
> comic issues (as opposed to the graphic novel
> collection), I realized that the syringe was something
> Miller was contemplating at one point in the creative
> process of the comic itself. No point to make there--
> just info.
>
> Oh, the other deviation? Nudity (or its absence). In the
> book, Hartigan is nude when he's hung up, and Nancy has a nude scene-- and are the fanboys ever burning up the 'Net over that one!

Okay, "millions" was hyperbole. My bad. Virtually every magazine with *any* interest in Entertainment has run articles &/or interviews about Sin City. In one, Rodriguez talked about how Miller wanted to reverse the color of a panel/scene, & he talked him out of it, perserving the original vision. They *did* try to match the art, but they also had to blend elements (& panels) of several Sin City volumes into one coherent storyboard. They *had* to add & change *some* things.

As to "why the change?" ...allow me to dust off...

-------
VAN's SECOND LAW OF MAINSTREAM DiD-SCENES: Any shortcomings of deficiencies of the bondage elements of a movie or TV scene are ALMOST ALWAYS explained by the realities of movie & TV production.
-------

We're not really arguing here, just having a friendly chat. :-)

...& speaking of blowing smoke, I haven't *actually* seen Sin City yet, so I'm going to stop blathering generalities & go check my e-mail. :-)
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.lovetied.com/dug/
Friday April 15 15:27:38 2005
Re: Sin City
Van wrote:

> VAN's SECOND LAW OF MAINSTREAM DiD-SCENES: Any
> shortcomings of deficiencies of the bondage elements of a
> movie or TV scene are ALMOST ALWAYS explained by the
> realities of movie & TV production.

Agreed, except it doesn't answer the question; exactly "what" reality of movie and TV production would make someone deviate on the gag detail? It looks cool in the comic, it's what was there, it's not hard to do, in fact it's easy and is done in hundereds of other movies around the world. Artistic decisions by the director or whoever on the spot or in rehersal... maybe, but then, doesn't that mean someone doesn't like gags... for whatever reason? Gags are awesome, a guy draws it in his comic, I like it, a guy takes it out in the movie version, I don't like it... just MHO, I know.
Friday April 15 17:28:35 2005
Re: Sin City
Perhaps this will help...

Popped into Tower Records and caught the "Making of Sin City" there and thumbed through it. Along with pics and stories is the screenplay throughout.
And there, in that scene, it says Yellow Bastard holds Nancy bound and gagged on the floor while Hartigan is strung up.

So...if it wasn't in the movie, it's because they just decided not to gag her. That's it, simple as that, let it go. LET IT GO. LOL

Honestly, why can't anyone enjoy the scene as it is? And Jessica looks DAMN GOOD in the movie. Her first shot on the screen had the crowd I saw it with shouting out loud.
Also, the shot of her bending down into the fridge to get some beers. Some nice shots all in all.

Let it go, everybody. Let it go. Move along. These aren't the droids you're looking for...
WilliamtheBloody
Friday April 15 19:02:26 2005
Re: Sin City
WilliamtheBloody wrote:

> Perhaps this will help...
>
> Popped into Tower Records and caught the "Making of
> Sin City" there and thumbed through it. Along with
> pics and stories is the screenplay throughout.
> And there, in that scene, it says Yellow Bastard holds
> Nancy bound and gagged on the floor while Hartigan is
> strung up.
>
> So...if it wasn't in the movie, it's because they just
> decided not to gag her. That's it, simple as that, let it
> go. LET IT GO. LOL
>
> Honestly, why can't anyone enjoy the scene as it is? And
> Jessica looks DAMN GOOD in the movie. Her first shot on
> the screen had the crowd I saw it with shouting out
> loud.
> Also, the shot of her bending down into the fridge to get
> some beers. Some nice shots all in all.
>
> Let it go, everybody. Let it go. Move along. These aren't
> the droids you're looking for...


Well, at the risk of appearing to continue a harangue, it is entirely possible to enjoy the scene, and the movie (both of which I did), and still have some curiosity about the artistic decisions responsible for the change.

I mean, if we were all camping on Rodriguez' doorstep bitching about it, that would be one thing... but surely, in this forum, we can just toss out a bit of speculation without it being a problem.
Jeb
Friday April 15 19:29:10 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Jay L wrote:
> "Sur une plage de Californie, l'adolescente Florence
> Chicklet Forest fraternise avec un groupe de surfeurs.
> Mais lorsque plusieurs de ses nouveaux amis sont
> assassinés, la jeune fille, qui souffre de
> dédoublements de la personnalité, est
> aussitôt soupçonnée."

I don't know French either, but here's a translation courtesy of http://babelfish.altavista.com/

"On a beach of California, the teenager Florence Chicklet Forest fraternizes with a group of surfers. But when several of his/her new friends are assassinated, the girl, who suffers from split personalities, is suspected at once."
Kerhop
Friday April 15 19:48:45 2005
Say It Ain't So A&E!
I was just looking at the upcoming episodes of T.J. Hooker and noticed they are skipping "The Obsession". That's Heather Locklear's extended tie-up scene where she's bound and gagged in her police uniform.


MadFish
http://www.aetv.com/global/listings/upcomingepisodes.jsp?ACatId=12329857&CaseId=12329856&EGrpId=12326934
Friday April 15 20:28:43 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Kerhop wrote:

I don't know French either, but here's a translation
courtesy of http://babelfish.altavista.com/

C'est vrai, M Kerhop - but when you've got a psycho beach party going on, language is usually not a barrier.....


Major John
Friday April 15 20:46:01 2005
Re: Home and Away
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Friday April 15 21:09:09 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Major John wrote:
> C'est vrai, M Kerhop - but when you've got a psycho beach
> party going on, language is usually not a barrier.....

True, but as Van has said...

It'd *never* about the bondage; It's *always* about the STORY

Kerhop
Friday April 15 21:13:31 2005
Avengers
Record number: 4318

Title: The Avengers (1961)
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Linda Thorson

Description: Episode: "You'll Catch Your Death" (6.4)


Just caught this at 8 pm eastern on BBC.

This scene shows the damsel talent of Linda Thorson. She doesn't get gagged, but she emotes beautifully. She heaves her chest, flairs her nostrils, opens those powerful blue eyes wide! Not only that, while she's tied, she gets the female villainess in a leg sissor around her head with her thighs and knocks her out!!! I miss the old days.......
doug
doug759@yahoo.com
Friday April 15 21:36:58 2005
Re: Say It Ain't So A&E!
MadFish wrote:

> I was just looking at the upcoming episodes of T.J.
> Hooker and noticed they are skipping "The
> Obsession". That's Heather Locklear's extended
> tie-up scene where she's bound and gagged in her police uniform.

The production order and the original broadcast order are the same, so there shouldn't be a problem that way. "The Obsession" is episode #91 (season 5, episode 9) between "Night Ripper" (which A&E is showing Wed May 5) and "Taps for Officer Remy" (which A&E is showing Thur May 6.) You're right, they are skipping "The Obsession"! What's going on here?

Original
Episode # Prod # Air Date Episode Title
____ _______ ________ ___________ ____________________________________________

1st Season Spring 1982 (ABC)

1- 1 421129 13 Mar 82 The Protectors [ 90 min ]
1- 2 181602 20 Mar 82 The Streets
1- 3 181601 27 Mar 82 God Bless the Child
1- 4 181603 3 Apr 82 Hooker's War
1- 5 181604 10 Apr 82 The Witness

2nd Season Fall 1982

2- 1 181612 25 Sep 82 Second Chance
2- 2 181614 2 Oct 82 King of the Hill
2- 3 181615 16 Oct 82 The Empty Gun
2- 4 181611 23 Oct 82 Blind Justice
2- 5 181622 30 Oct 82 Big Foot
2- 6 181608 6 Nov 82 Terror at the Academy
2- 7 181607 13 Nov 82 The Survival Syndrome
2- 8 181606 20 Nov 82 Deadly Ambition
2- 9 181623 27 Nov 82 A Cry for Help
2-10 181624 4 Dec 82 Thieves' Highway
2-11 181613 18 Dec 82 The Connection
2-12 181621 8 Jan 83 The Fast Lane
2-13 15 Jan 83 Too Late for Love
2-14 22 Jan 83 The Decoy
2-15 29 Jan 83 The Mumbler
2-16 5 Feb 83 Vengeance is Mine
2-17 12 Feb 83 Sweet Sixteen and Dead
2-18 19 Feb 83 Raw Deal
2-19 26 Feb 83 Requiem for a Cop
2-20 5 Mar 83 The Hostages
2-21 181632 30 Apr 83 Payday Pirates
2-22 181619 7 May 83 Lady in Blue

3rd Season 1983

3- 1 181649 1 Oct 83 The Return
3- 2 181637 8 Oct 83 Carnal Express
3- 3 181639 15 Oct 83 Chinatown
3- 4 181643 22 Oct 83 The Cheerleader Murder
3- 5 181641 29 Oct 83 The Shadow of Truth
3- 6 181642 5 Nov 83 Walk a Straight Line
3- 7 181645 12 Nov 83 A Child is Missing
3- 8 181636 19 Nov 83 The Trial
3- 9 181644 26 Nov 83 Matter of Passion
3-10 181640 3 Dec 83 Blue Murder
3-11 10 Dec 83 Undercover Affair
3-12 17 Dec 83 Slay Ride
3-13 7 Jan 84 The Lipstick Killer
3-14 181652 14 Jan 84 The Snow Game
3-15 181658 28 Jan 84 Exercise in Murder
3-16 4 Feb 84 Hooker's Run
3-17 181648 25 Feb 84 Hot Property
3-18 3 Mar 84 Death on the Line
3-19 181660 10 Mar 84 Death Strip
3-20 24 Mar 84 Psychic Terror
3-21 181646 5 May 84 Gang War
3-22 12 May 84 Deadlock

4th Season 1984

4- 1 181665 13 Oct 84 Night Vigil
4- 2 181673 20 Oct 84 The Two Faces of Betsy Morgan
4- 3 181670 27 Oct 84 Pursuit
4- 4 181667 3 Nov 84 Hardcore Connection
4- 5 181683 10 Nov 84 Anatomy of a Killing
4- 6 181664 17 Nov 84 Target-Hooker
4- 7 181681 24 Nov 84 Model for Murder
4- 8 181669 1 Dec 84 A Kind of Rage
4- 9 181672 15 Dec 84 The Confession
4-10 29 Dec 84 Grand Theft Auto
4-11 181674 5 Jan 85 Street Bait
4-12 181671 12 Jan 85 The Surrogate
4-13 181684 26 Jan 85 Trackdown
4-14 2 Feb 85 Outcall
4-15 181666 9 Feb 85 The Bribe
4-16 181685 16 Feb 85 Love Story
4-17 181686 23 Feb 85 Hollywood Starr
4-18 181687 2 Mar 85 Sanctuary
4-19 181688 9 Mar 85 Homecoming
4-20 181675 16 Mar 85 Serial Murders
4-21 181677 23 Mar 85 Lag Time
4-22 181680 6 Apr 85 The Throwaway
4-23 181690 4 May 85 The Chicago Connection

5th Season 1985 (now on CBS, 70 min late-night timeslot)

5- 1 181692 25 Sep 85 The Ransom
5- 2 2 Oct 85 Return of a Cop
5- 3 9 Oct 85 To Kill a Cop
5- 4 181705 6 Nov 85 Death is a Four Letter Word
5- 5 13 Nov 85 The Assassin
5- 6 20 Nov 85 Rip-off
5- 7 27 Nov 85 Funny Money
5- 8 29 Jan 86 Night Ripper
5- 9 181702 5 Feb 86 The Obsession
5-10 12 Feb 86 Taps for Officer Remy
5-11 19 Feb 86 Nightmare
5-12 26 Feb 86 Shoot Out
5-13 30 Apr 86 Murder by Law
5-14 7 May 86 Partners in Death
5-15 181704 14 May 86 Death Trip
5-16 21 May 86 Blood Sport (1)
5-17 21 May 86 Blood Sport (2)
5-18 181716 21 May 86 Into the Night
5-19 181706 28 May 86 Deadly Force













Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday April 15 21:42:04 2005
Re: Say It Ain't So A&E!
Tapemaster wrote:

> between "Night Ripper" (which
> A&E is showing Wed May 5) and "Taps for Officer
> Remy" (which A&E is showing Thur May 6.)

That should be: "between "Night Ripper" (which
A&E is showing Wed May 4) and "Taps for Officer
Remy" (which A&E is showing Thur May 5.)"
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday April 15 22:30:28 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Kerhop wrote:

True, but as Van has said...
It'd *never* about the bondage; It's *always* about the STORY

I've actually never been to a 'psycho beach party', so not one to refer to as an expert ....come to think of it, no one's ever EVEN invited me to one - I'm starting to feel like a bit of a loser - but that's another story.


Major John
Friday April 15 22:38:14 2005
Sin City
I agree with what's been said about Sin City, it was a killer movie, a killer comic, and I loved every single frame of it. But the lack of a gag did seem pretty conspicuous to me, especially since the syringe of what-ever-it-was niether knocked her out nor paralyzed her.
Also Van,
"I realized that the syringe was something Miller was contemplating at one point in the creative process of the comic itself."
How did you come to that conlusion? Was it in that making of book or something you've got in another version of the comic? Just curious. I've only got the trades and will probably spend a fortune some day getting the originals.
Anyway, I guess it'll go down as a mystery and I'll just be content to enjoy the movie as is.
Friday April 15 23:24:36 2005
Re: Psycho Beach Party Movie
Kerhop wrote:

> Jay L
> I don't know French

Thanx, but been sorted (My April 15 @14:03:28 Post)

Found it scheduled to air June 19th, 9pm on CHUM-CITY "DriveIN Classics" channel.

So if a clip doesn't appear sooner,
we'll try and grab it for you collectors then.
Jay L

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