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Friday October 26 00:12:22 2007
Re: Smallville
civil wrote:

> civil wrote:
> > Lana gets tazered and after the commercial, her hands are
> > bound in front with a black strap and thrown of a
> > building.
> > Next week, supergirl gets cuffed with special cuffs and
> > finds her self strapped down as she is examined.
> Oh, Lana's quick scene occurs around the 45'mark on the
> CW for the West Coast folks.

I'm beginning to thing the Smallville producers have the House of Gord on retainer. Kara's futuristic Kryptonite/steel cuffs and the subsequent examination look like they'll be very cool; like the mad scientist ordeal Chloe went through last season, only different. Unfortunately, Kara (Laura Vandervoort) will *not* be nekkid (like Chloe), but she *will* be wearing a red mini-dress. Let's just hope it's not one of those blink-and-Clark-rescues-her things. And speaking of Laura Vandervoort... {SCHWING!!}
http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/806/806891/smallville-20070720000659462-000.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.restrainedtastes.com/van/
Friday October 26 00:30:53 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Raffish wrote:

> You are at least a decade behind with respect to the
> legal status of "fair use." (etc)

Raffish, you may be right about all the things that you just mentioned. I really have no idea. You are correct that I should not have said anything about "fair game" and legalities because I really don't know enough about it.

HOWEVER, all that is completely irrelevant. If we all got together and started letter writing campaigns, we just would NOT mention "Brian's Page" or any other website devoted to mainstream bondage. Nobody at the networks needs to know about "Brian's Page" or any of the websites that provide vidcaps and vidclips. They just need to know that there are A LOT of guys out there who will tune in to a TV show in order to see attractive actresses bound and gagged. If they were aware of that, we would get more scenes.

Consider how many people regularly visit "Brian's Page" every day. Brian once gave an estimate but I don't remember what it is. Whatever the number is, if ALL of us sent a letter to ABC saying something like "I am a man who never watches an episode of 'Desperate Housewives'. However, if Eva Longoria was bound and gagged in an episode, then I would definitely tune in.", then ABC would HAVE to pay attention.

There is no reason why we can't do this.




Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday October 26 00:32:15 2007
Re: Criminal Minds
Tom Quin wrote:

> Can we agree on some term that can be used to indicate an
> age related problem so that folks can be alerted to
> potentially disturbing content?


What do you think of "Rookie"?
Jay L
Friday October 26 00:58:35 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Tapemaster wrote:

> If we all got
> together and started letter writing campaigns, we just
> There is no reason why we can't do this.

You are still typing "we" when you mean "I."

Only "I."


The House of Le Bastard
Friday October 26 01:01:28 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
The House of Le Bastard wrote:

> You are still typing "we" when you mean
> "I."
> Only "I."

I mean what I say and I say what I mean.

I mean "WE".

That is the only way that we can get anything accomplished.

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday October 26 01:11:31 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Tapemaster wrote:

> I mean "WE".
> That is the only way that we can get anything
> accomplished.

We (meaning my brother and I) don't view this as "accomplishing," though.

We have given up on recording shows. The only exception was part of the Las Vegas season premiere.

As far as we're concerned, the only true DiD scene in months was that Marcil scene. Everything else was a sad ploy for ratings. Your personal campaign would lead to no good on that end.
The House of Le Bastard
Friday October 26 01:18:13 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Tapemaster wrote:

> Whatever the number is, if ALL
> of us sent a letter to ABC saying something like "I
> am a man who never watches an episode of 'Desperate
> Housewives'. However, if Eva Longoria was bound and
> gagged in an episode, then I would definitely tune
> in.", then ABC would HAVE to pay attention.

Well, sure, to the extent that it might get posted on the hallway message board next to the water cooler, such that derisive laughter might ensue.

As I see it, your mistake here is not in assuming that we're a significant demographic -- that's a proposition to which I'm still at least a bit open -- but in assuming that getting overly aggressive about the possibility will create more good than harm at the moment. If you want to be the Code Pink of the mainstream DiD community, that's your prerogative, but I don't see there being much solidarity.
Raffish
Friday October 26 01:26:18 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Tapemaster wrote:

> It is simply that it is my OPINION that the post was NOT
> "off-topic" and that is what I was stating.

Your opinion was wrong. Yes, opinions can be wrong.



> I think you deleted it [blah blah blah] because
> you think that it might draw negative publicity to this
> website.

That's silly. Your "campaign" will draw no attention
whatsoever, other than negative results on the forums,
JUST LIKE LAST TIME.

> I understand your concern

Obviously not.

> I do not think
> that "Brian's Page" would be in any danger if
> we started letter writing campaigns.

Nor do I. That's not why it's off-topic.



The Moderator
Friday October 26 01:29:14 2007
Break a Leg
This post was moved to The Video Page.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Friday October 26 01:30:15 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Tapemaster wrote:

> There is no reason why we can't do this.

Yeah, there is. I said it's off-topic. Anything further,
for or against, will be deleted.

The Moderator
Friday October 26 02:14:06 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
The Moderator wrote:

> That's not why it's off-topic.

Then why IS it off-topic?

Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday October 26 05:13:12 2007
This and that and nothing in particular...
...or as prison guard Dabbs Greer (who sadly passed away a few months back) whispered into the ear of condemned murderess Susan Hayward (who just as sadly passed away much longer ago, but not before earning the sobriquet "Oscar-winning actress" before her untimely demise) as she sat blindfolded and strapped into the gas chamber at the climax of "I Want to Live!": "When you hear the pellets drop, count ten. Take a deep breath. It's easier that way." To which Hayward sneered-as only Hayward COULD sneer-"How do YOU know?"

And it's fitting in a way to remember one of the classic scenes involving the use of a blindfold, since I'm here once again to briefly discuss that medium in which all the action is heard and not seen, namely audiobooks.

Some time back I mentioned Judith Lindbergh's "The Thrall's Tale" and asked if anyone knew if there were anything of interest to us in it. Well, someone near and dear downloaded it from netLibrary a few weeks ago and, in the great tradition of our erstwhile friend Bindan Gagher (who, for those of you who weren't around back then, suffered through the last filmed version of "The Scarlet Letter" to identify Francie Swift as the third bondagee in the gallows scene) subjected their tender ears to all of its just under nineteen hours of unending chick-lit cliches-so YOU won't have to.

As I told you back when, this is the story of a female slave of the Vikings a thousand years ago, which would seem to be a promising setup. What Lindbergh does with it, however, is branch out into what happens to her daughter and to the elderly Viking witch they both end up being owned by. In other words, the book becomes a trilogy of tales, all told in the first person. About the only thing worthy of note is a handgagging during a rape-which, of course, is how the daughter comes to be. That and the main character, who had been born to an Irish Christian abducted by the Vikings, relating how her parents had been "bound in chains" after their capture.

That's it, No whippings or any of the other trappings of what you'd think medieval slavery would entail. Don't you just hate these novelists who think they can get away with imposing 21st century sensibilities on tenth-century society?

And to add insult to injury-I'll be brief, Mr. Moderator, brief enough, I hope, to avoid a swift kick to Valhalla-the "shortcut" method for getting netLibrary's encrypted WMA files onto an iPod is currently out of commission, meaning you have to play the file through on your computer at least once, unless you also own an mp3 player that can handle such files without that aforementioned "shortcut."

Finally, speaking of Valhalla, it seems our beloved Fuhrer's generosity of late has been misconstrued. To remind everyone: Issues of topicality are the province of the Moderator, and ONLY the Moderator. I don't have a problem with that since I don't help pay for the storage or bandwidth this site consumes. And anyone who doesn't get this needs to take it up with the aforementioned party of the first part privately via e-mail. Because frankly, the rest of us really don't want to hear about it.
Fettershackle
Friday October 26 05:46:46 2007
Re: Actresses who "get it."
I know a bit of time has passed but since it's a topic that interests me, i thought i'd throw my 2 cents in.

As some of you may have seen on Major John's, a film called Sum of Existence came out last year here in australia. Having directed the film, and asked my actresses while the hell they'd do a role that involves a gag or restraints or such, i got much the same reply from all 4 of them - it's being able to experience the emotions, and putting yourself in such an horendous situation in an entirely safe environment where you can experience the emotions, but not have to actually live it once I called cut. So much so, that one actor (who played the attacker) would talk about kayaking in the andes between takes with his victim and she attempt to answer, sometimes not so successfully since she was still gagged and blindfolded and tied up - weirdest thing i saw - i wish we had done behind the scenes for that

JD
JD
jd@coherentproductions.com
Friday October 26 10:47:13 2007
Re: Criminal Minds
Jay L wrote:

> Pat Powers wrote:
> > Jay L wrote:
> > This girl wouldn't get served in a pub

> the United States will understand Pat? ;)

Actually, if both my brain cells had been functioning when I posted that question, I would have figured it out. But they weren't. I do think that NAA idea is a pretty good one. Problem is, any marker you use to AVOID age inappropriate images becomes a marker FOR age inappropriate images, no matter what your intent. Prolly best just not to mention.
Pat Powers
Friday October 26 11:10:29 2007
late alert -- Blind Obsession
Blind Obsession (Megan Gallagher bound and gagged) just started on Lifetime Movie Network. Details are on the VCR alerts page. This scene is a classic!
Tapemaster
km574@yahoo.com
Friday October 26 12:02:21 2007
Actresses who get it
JD mentioned actresses doing roles and talking about emotion, I noticed that Lauren German, in the commentary during Hostel II, never mentioned a single word about being tied up. The director even asked her what she was feeling when she was trying to tell “Stuart” something through her gag and she never said anything about the gag. She was onscreen with a close-up of her face. She was cleave gagged and she never mentioned it. The director even said something like, “you read the script and you knew what you were getting into”, still she never said anything about being tied up and gagged. She talked about having nightmares and how tiring the scenes and falling asleep during shooting, she said she had never done a role that before, etc. It seemed that Eli Roth was trying to get her to say something about being tied up but she never mentioned it. At one point he said, I love the look on your face there. It was like Lauren German was watching a different movie or something.
J Par
Friday October 26 12:04:48 2007
Law & Order: CI
Lady found dead in the beginning and she was tied up hemplike rope. Hands bound over her head to the headboard, rope tied around the body from neck to crotch (hence crotch rope) and feet bound.
civil
Friday October 26 12:29:19 2007
does anyone know this scene
hi all, came across a few vidcaps on an old yahoo group showing 4
damsels each one tied spread eagled on a bed. all 4 looked like they were
cleve gagged and scantily clad. they were being examined by an old man in a doctors outfit. i think there was a referance to dr. jackyl in the title.
it looked like a 70s horror flick. group was deleted next time i checked.
anyone recognise this scene
ripley
tosser352003@yahoo.com
Friday October 26 13:27:41 2007
New Update and New DVD #19
Gente di Mare 2 !!

Ciao from Italy.
http://www.pantydidcap.com/Forum/gente2_carambola.jpg
PantyDiDCap
info@PantyDiDCap.com
http://www.PantyDiDCap.com
Friday October 26 14:05:35 2007
Re: Criminal Minds
Pat Powers wrote:

Prolly
> best just not to mention.

Yeah, but if you don't mention it, people might miss it. Why not just say there is a scene, and nothing else? This way, Brian has no problems but people are still alerted.

XYZ
Friday October 26 14:12:14 2007
Heroes
anyone know when that heroes scene is on w/ panetierre and bell. i want 2 c it bad. the pics showed their hands taped. anything else?
Friday October 26 15:05:03 2007
Re: Heroes
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> anyone know when that heroes scene is on w/ panetierre
> and bell. i want 2 c it bad. the pics showed their hands
> taped. anything else?

Should be coming up within a few weeks, since Bell started on the show last week. No certain date yet.

Friday October 26 15:52:27 2007
Re: To DB Editor - Missed Alerts - Problem?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> http://www.zap2it.com
> They
> keep about two weeks worth up.


Here's the link I wanted.

Okay, did a test post, and some back searching. There nothing wrong with DB to VHS machine Alerts. What I'm seeing backchecking is late Alerts posted on Discussion. This where it's on at that moment and you'll really only catch it if you're at home at the right time. Only way get around that I can think of is the above site.

This one, put your postal code in the slot, then choose your provider:
* Example I used Brian's home address (Clark Ave - 63103) & Charter-Digital*

This where you can use poster about 2 weeks worth. Either throw a title in the Search Bar, or you can hit a favoured channel on the listings
*Example I hit a channel "TNT 49"
Channel comes up for a weeks worth of it's shows, but you can then click on favoured shows and get the two weeks worth of the show's listings on all channels of your cable.
*Example- I hit Without a Trace. Gave me two weeks of all Without a Trace airings on his cable

Fantastic site. Week to two weeks ahead give you time to set your VHS Machine.

Hope that of assist,

If it doesn't? Please use the Contact Form and relate exactly what you were trying to do, and what happened
Jay L
http://www.zap2it.com
Friday October 26 16:09:16 2007
Re: To DB Editor - Missed Alerts - Problem? - One Favour?
Jay L wrote:

> but you
> can then click on favoured shows and get the two weeks
> worth of the show's listings on all channels of your
> cable.
> *Example- I hit Without a Trace.


Attn: Civil & Other VHS Machine Alerts Dynamos

One favour?
In going through this to explain the site, I come across a few scenes that may be general United States, that the boys would want to see
I'll post them up on Database Corrections

Figure with your assist, can sort them proper for general VHS Alerts
TIA
Jay L
Friday October 26 16:43:21 2007
Natural born killers directors cut
I recently donwload this movie and i want to know exactly where are the extra bd scenes. Thanks in advance
Mandrake
mandraketube@yahoo.com
Friday October 26 17:42:09 2007
24 Season Seven - Annie Wersching
Looks like Jack Bauer has a new partner for season seven in the form of a smokin' hot redhead played by Annie Wersching. I really hope she gets the treatment! Also, they should have Chloe be kidnapped at some point...that would make my day. You know the bad guys would have to gag her!
Siefer Kutherland
Friday October 26 18:10:14 2007
Re: Law & Order: CI
civil wrote:

> Lady found dead in the beginning and she was tied up
> hemplike rope. Hands bound over her head to the
> headboard, rope tied around the body from neck to crotch
> (hence crotch rope) and feet bound.

Too bad, if she'd been alive it would have been the first ever crotch rope on American mainstream TV. There actually hasn't been a crotchrope in mainstream American movies, either: Sweet Ecstasy was a European production, and Romance was French.
Pat Powers
http://www.bondagerotica.com/articles/joyropeelkesommerecstasy.html
Friday October 26 18:31:42 2007
Re: Actresses who "get it."
JD wrote:

> i got much the same reply from
> all 4 of them - it's being able to experience the
> emotions, and putting yourself in such an horendous
> situation in an entirely safe environment where you can
> experience the emotions, but not have to actually live it
> once I called cut.

Experience the emotions for thrills (as in riding a rollercoaster or play acting with friends when you were a kid) or for the acting experience?
Friday October 26 18:48:18 2007
Re: Natural born killers directors cut
Mandrake wrote:

> I recently donwload this movie and i want to know exactly
> where are the extra bd scenes. Thanks in advance

These are the extra scenes I recall:

There's a few extra scenes with the blonde bound and tape-gagged in the motel after Mallory leaves Mickey alone with her.

There's also a very brief B&W scene with Ashley Judd recounting her encounter with Mickey and Mallory. She's bound on the floor with what looks like a small stuffed animal in her mouth as a gag. Not sure where this scene pops in the Director's cut.
MadFish
Friday October 26 19:14:48 2007
Re: Smallville
civil wrote:
Lana gets tazered and after the commercial, her
hands are bound in front with a black strap and
thrown of a building...
Oh, Lana's quick scene occurs around the
45'mark on the CW for the West Coast folks.
___________________________________________
There is also another damsel found with her
hands tied behind her back with white rope
laying down, apparently unconcious, found
by Clark Kent just before Lana's scene.
Rich'
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Friday October 26 19:57:33 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
This post was deleted.

Poster: Pat Powers
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Friday October 26 20:06:23 2007
Re: Jessica Alba - Into The Blue
> Thought for sure it would be a deleted scene on the DVD,
> maybe with Brolin talking to an ungagged Alba on the boat
> before making the cell phone call to Paul Walker

Better with the gag
http://websitejessicaalba.free.fr/gallerie-en/albums/intotheblue/normal_26.jpg
http://websitejessicaalba.free.fr/gallerie-en/albums/intotheblue/normal_18.jpg
Friday October 26 20:07:06 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Captureher wrote:

> Raffish wrote:
> >those of us who have dedicated our efforts to
> > "repurposing" DiD content. (Picture what
> the
> > producers of "Twisted Sisters" did to
> > majorjohns a while back, times at least fifty.)
> What exactly happened? I can understand if no one wants
> to discuss this here, but did someone post this
> experience on another site somewhere? I think it would be useful.

I'll leave it to Stephanie and/or Mai Li to tell the long story if they wish -- which they did do in this forum originally, and that's why I know about it. The short story is that they posted clips from that film, received a cease-and-desist order from the producers' attorneys, and took the clips down. It happens all the time. So far, there's been no organized attempt to target DiDclippers. My fear, however, is that one is on the horizon, and that dorky projects such as Tapemaster's write-in initiative will only accelerate the schedule. Hence the rant. :)
Raffish
Friday October 26 20:19:59 2007
Re: Actresses who "get it."
> JD wrote:
> > i got much the same reply from
> > all 4 of them - it's being able to experience the
> > emotions

> Experience the emotions for thrills (as in riding a
> rollercoaster or play acting with friends when you were a
> kid) or for the acting experience?

Therein lies the strangeness of actors - it is a thrill to them to put themselves through all sorts of torments, which in turn is part of their acting experience, so i guess you have both your answers in the same question!
JD
jd@coherentproductions.com
Friday October 26 20:51:29 2007
Re: Fall season a bust so far
Tapemaster wrote:

> The Moderator wrote:
> > That's not why it's off-topic.
> Then why IS it off-topic?

Ah, only now do you think to ask, rather than creating
strawmen in your mind. Progress, I suppose.

There are two reasons:

1. This site is about discussing scenes, not figuring
out ways to make scenes happen.

2. We already had this suggestion a while ago. It led
to an ugly series of messages that were not in your
favor. At that time I declared it off-topic.


If you want to organize such an effort, start a web
site for it. You can advertise it on Trades to a
limited extents.

The Moderator
Friday October 26 21:11:08 2007
Women's Murder Club ABC 20:05ct
There is some interesting bondage dialogue about a
murder victim and then 10 muniutes in
they find a damsel in a black vinyl outfit
with her hands tied overhead and a
black leather breater gag.
Rich
bindherupx@yahoo.com
http://bindherupx.net
Friday October 26 21:15:56 2007
Re: Smallville
Rich' wrote:

> civil wrote:
> Oh, Lana's quick scene occurs around the
> 45'mark on the CW for the West Coast folks.
> ___________________________________________
> There is also another damsel found with her
> hands tied behind her back with white rope
> laying down, apparently unconcious, found
> by Clark Kent just before Lana's scene.
> http://bindherupx.net


Well, I'll be damn. I have to check my tape for that. I hit record when I realized the shirt Lana was wearing was the same as the green scene of her and the superputz hangin by wires. Glad I didn't enter the scene into the db.
civil
Friday October 26 21:30:06 2007
Re: Women's Murder Club ABC 20:05ct
Rich wrote:

> murder victim and then 10 muniutes in they find a damsel >in a black vinyl outfit with her hands tied overhead and > a black leather breater gag.

So that is why a Iris Braydon is credited as the latex girl.
civil
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2007/10/womans-murder-club-episode-103-blind_08.html
Friday October 26 21:34:14 2007
Ghost Whisperer
Hewitt only had a burlap sac over her head in the first ten minutes, and Amy Acker had the same thing happen to her half way through. No gags or bonds of any sort, and what a missed opportunity for them to write them in too.
civil
Friday October 26 21:51:09 2007
Re: Women's Murder Club ABC 20:05ct
Rich wrote:

> There is some interesting bondage dialogue about a
> murder victim and then 10 muniutes in
> they find a damsel in a black vinyl outfit
> with her hands tied overhead and a
> black leather breater gag.
> http://bindherupx.net

Character of ALexis is found by Angie around the 45' mark gagged in the closet. Quick scene, and what a missed chance for Angie as she shot the guy that was attacking her.
Friday October 26 22:03:12 2007
Elvira
Anyone else seen "In Search of the New Elvira"? I haven't seen any bondage yet but there has been some blatant implications. And knowing Cassandra P the finalists may have to endure some..yes perhaps wishful thinking.
MarkO
Friday October 26 22:07:44 2007
Re: To DB Editor - Missed Alerts - Problem?
Jay L wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > http://www.zap2it.com
> > They
> > keep about two weeks worth up.

I have found the imdb.com now list some popular channel airings (USA Network, CBS and such) when you do a search on TV episodes. I have used this lately on some of my alerts. It generally lists for the whole month. I found this out when I searching information to post entries into the database.
civil
Friday October 26 22:09:47 2007
Re: Elvira
MarkO wrote:

> Anyone else seen "In Search of the New Elvira"?
> I haven't seen any bondage yet

I seen the premeire ep only, but I wasn't look for no bondage. Wink. Wink.
civil
Friday October 26 22:22:00 2007
Re: Women's Murder Club ABC 20:05ct
I hate to be a pessimist...
just my spin from watching this show....
I'll never waste time taping or watching again when there are two much better prospects in that time slot.
Angie will NEVER get a good scene.
Sorry just my opinion but I have a REALLY strong feeling about it.
Snowcat
Friday October 26 22:31:51 2007
Re: Smallville
civil wrote:

> > There is also another damsel found with her
> > hands tied behind her back with white rope
> > laying down, apparently unconcious, found
> > by Clark Kent just before Lana's scene.

That was Christina Milian who was tasered with Lana and (after VERY close inspection of the freeze frame) she wasn't tied up just lying unconscious wearing bracelets.
Snowcat
Friday October 26 22:39:48 2007
Moonlight

I was busy during my taping of Moonlight tonight, but I can confirm a handgag in the opening seqeuence and a flashback to it at 15 minutes. Not sure if there was more later, but it was about a guy stalking female escorts...
Friday October 26 23:01:45 2007
Heroes
G4 is running a marathon of the first season of Heroes tomorrow and Sunday. Alerts are posted.
civil
Friday October 26 23:02:39 2007
Re: Women's Murder Club ABC 20:05ct
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Rich wrote:

> her hands tied overhead and a
> black leather breater gag.
> Character of ALexis is found by Angie around the 45' mark
> gagged in the closet.

Is this the same scene or were there 2 gagged scenes tonight? By the way, are the scenes any good, these descriptions are very brief; are they keepers for example, are the girls hot, is the bondage really good? Sorry for all the questions but i missed the show. Thanks.
Friday October 26 23:08:26 2007
Re: To DB Editor - Missed Alerts - Problem?
civil wrote:

> Jay L wrote:
> > (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > > http://www.zap2it.com
> > > They
> > > keep about two weeks worth up.
> I have found the imdb.com now list some popular channel
> airings (USA Network, CBS and such) when you do a search
> on TV episodes. I have used this lately on some of my
> alerts. It generally lists for the whole month. I found
> this out when I searching information to post entries
> into the database.

What we CLEARLY need at some point is the Killer App that would automatically check the TV listings against Brian's DB, perform a heuristic or ten to turn close matches into positive ones, and post the appropriate alerts.

If only I didn't have a real software job that was currently kicking my ass...
Raffish

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