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Saturday December 13 10:30:55 2008
The Horsemen
I found this - not the best photo but to my eyes it does show a bound and gagged woman

Martin Tupper
http://www.badtaste.it/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=188&g2_itemId=3960
Saturday December 13 10:55:36 2008
Re: May I add my condolences...
Fettershackle wrote:

> ...to the family and friends of Bettie Page.

R.i.p. the lovely Bettie,thanks for the memories. Such a glamorous lady for sure.
Ged
Saturday December 13 11:05:37 2008
Re: The Horsemen
Martin Tupper wrote:

> I found this - not the best photo but to my eyes it does
> show a bound and gagged woman

No need to guess. I forwarded through the pics and found this one. It's the same girl.

I'm wondering if Ziyi Zhang will have a scene.
MadFish
http://www.badtaste.it/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=188&g2_itemId=3987
Saturday December 13 13:17:32 2008
Bondage cliches
Watching a batch of clips recently, I began thinking of bondage cliches that irritated me. Below are a few. Feel free to add your own.

1) Tied to a chair, she struggles so hard the chair falls over

2) Tiny piece of tape put over her mouth, totally silences her for hours and days and weeks

3) One small bit of rope goes loosely around her wrists once, and she can't move an inch

4) If she's connected to a bomb, it will helpfully have a bright LED display counting down the time

5) Gagged, hands tied in front or loosely overhead, can't seem to reach up and remove said gag

6) She's being tied by one guy, who has to hold her, pull her hands behind her back, grab the rope or tape from somewhere and wrap it around them, and she doesn't fight at all, except maybe to *kick.*

...Others?
John
Saturday December 13 14:23:13 2008
Scenes of the Year
Was that "88 Hours" movie this year? I loved that scene with Alicia Witt. Good looking actress nicely tied hands behind and feet in a chair, interesting unconventional gag, shown from the front and back in several shots with some good emoting. I thought it was pretty classic.
CD
Saturday December 13 14:52:10 2008
Ladron de Corazones
After years of search, i was finally able to track down clips of an AOH scene from the Telemundo Telenovela Ladron de Corazones. Once youtied comes back I'll post clips but for now I hope these 2 images are a good preview
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1481/ldc1bn5.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3685/ldc2yx1.jpg
MAV
Saturday December 13 15:15:04 2008
Re: The Horsemen
Martin Tupper wrote:

> I found this - not the best photo but to my eyes it does
> show a bound and gagged woman

This looks great
Mandrakedaily
Saturday December 13 16:45:05 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
7. Bad duct tape gags. It looks like it can fall off if she bends her head downward to the ground.

8. Bad clevae-gags. The cloth looks so thin that you can actually chew thru it.

9. Short scenes.....very short. Like Sasha Alexander's scene in NCIS, she was barely tied up and gagged for what 15 seconds before being freed. I hate those short scenes.

10. Bad people ties up a woman but didn't even bother to gag her. All they do is stand there, telling her to shut up in whiny voice.
E-Man
Saturday December 13 16:49:51 2008
Re: Scenes of the Year
"Was that "88 Hours" movie this year?"

Nope, according to imdb it's a 2007 movie.

BTW, it's minutes not hours.
E-Man
Saturday December 13 17:39:57 2008
Effectiveness of duct tape gags
On the subject of lame gags, what's the most effective duct tape gag you've seen in a scene? The standard single strip of tape over the mouth isn't very effective in real life, I prefer scenes where the tape is completely wrapped around the head
Saturday December 13 17:43:18 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
> Watching a batch of clips recently, I began thinking of
bondage cliches that irritated me. Below are a few.
Feel free to add your own.
~~~~
1) Stalker or kidnapper plans for weeks, even months on his/her target(s). Yet, when it comes to the checklist item "Restraint", evidently they allocated only 20 minutes and under $20 going to Home Depot or Lowe's to purchase duct tape and/or rope. Sheesh, even in the unlikely event that there's not an adult store within a half-hour drive, a couple minutes using a search engine will provide online shoppers with plenty of choices to keep said target comfortably, yet securely restrained.

2) Damsel is immediately ungagged -- for no apparent reason other than to announce a scene change. Not only that, but she also mouths off to her captor(s) (e.g., cursing, berating, or insulting them) -- with no "reprecussions". Even though her captor(s) is still holding the piece of tape in their hands, or their cloth gag is still hanging down by their throat.

3) "Chloroform" works instantly, damsel becomes limp within three seconds. Not even time for considerable mmmphing, struggling, etc.
Kinky-napper
Saturday December 13 17:48:24 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
John wrote:

I began thinking of
> bondage cliches that irritated me. Below are a few.
> Feel free to add your own.


> 3) One small bit of rope goes loosely around her wrists
> once, and she can't move an inch

...Others?
11. (pretty much related to #3) Left alone and poorly "restrained," she doesn't do anything except to maybe glance around the area helplessly.
(Or)12. Using a paperclip or hairpin, the damsel is able to quickly unlock her handcuffs or the padlock holding her chains, and/or the lock on the room she's in.

Jute
Saturday December 13 17:53:40 2008
Re: Ladron de Corazones
MAV wrote:

> After years of search, i was finally able to track down
> clips of an AOH scene from the Telemundo Telenovela
> Ladron de Corazones. Once youtied comes back I'll post
> clips but for now I hope these 2 images are a good preview
They sure are! Those are really nice. Thanks much for posting them. Great looking woman, believable bonds, perilous situation... pretty much what it's all about. Good gag would have made it close to perfect.

Cinch
Saturday December 13 18:09:54 2008
Re: "Inkheart"
steve a wrote:

> TC wrote:
> Certainly looks like a scene for Ms Mirren

Touch of hyperbole there i'm afraid. In the scene in question La Mirren is gagged but not bound, it's a black cloth tied over the mouth if anyone's still interested.

Bit of a shame all round really, earlier in the same scene Andy Serkis as the main villian boasts "I love this world, You have guns and what's that sticky stuff called? Duct tape that's it - I love duct tape"

You'd think a villian who had such a passion for duct tape would keep a roll to hand wouldn't you?

moxx of balhoom
Saturday December 13 18:39:34 2008
Re: Effectiveness of duct tape gags
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I prefer scenes where the tape is completely
> wrapped around the head

There! You just answered your own question. That Victoria Principle blind movie and Ulee's Gold are two classics.
John
Saturday December 13 19:04:03 2008
Re: Just showing some pics...
Kramer wrote:

> Hi guys, I just wanted to send you that page in which
> I've posted some pics of supermodels in bondage.


That was awesome. Please continue!

seth
Saturday December 13 20:42:56 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
John wrote:

> Watching a batch of clips recently, I began thinking of
> bondage cliches that irritated me. Below are a few.
> Feel free to add your own.
> 1) Tied to a chair, she struggles so hard the chair falls
> over
> 2) Tiny piece of tape put over her mouth, totally
> silences her for hours and days and weeks
> 3) One small bit of rope goes loosely around her wrists
> once, and she can't move an inch
> 4) If she's connected to a bomb, it will helpfully have a
> bright LED display counting down the time
> 5) Gagged, hands tied in front or loosely overhead, can't
> seem to reach up and remove said gag
> 6) She's being tied by one guy, who has to hold her, pull
> her hands behind her back, grab the rope or tape from
> somewhere and wrap it around them, and she doesn't fight
> at all, except maybe to *kick.*
...Others?
I see nothing wrong with chairs tipping over as for the rest whatcha gonna do? it's easy to be critical now in the buffet line of bondage with practically every scene known to man available, but I suspect at the time of original airing these were gems. Time will be kind to the classics.

ian nottingaham
Saturday December 13 21:04:01 2008
Re: Bondage Cliches
Let me add:

A) Stuff gags. A gag that can easily be spat out. Yeah, that's effective alrighty.

B) Manacles that are clearly and obviously useless. What's worse, I'd say such manacles are more common than actual effective manacles. Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a frequent offender here, but hardly alone.

C) Prison inmates in the US being transported without being cuffed or shackled. Definitely Against the Rules.





Here Lana Clarkson has pulled her manacles almost up to her elbows in "Slavegirls Beyond Infinity." No doubt the filmmakers thought her large and shapely breasts would ... what was I saying?
http://www.bondagerotica.com/halloshame/lana_clarkson_chained1.jpg
Pat Powers
Saturday December 13 21:29:33 2008
Re: Bondage Cliches
D) Hero's wife or girlfriend is taken captive by the bad guy(s) in order to lure him into a trap, often in some sort of "deserted building".

Yet while she may be tied, she's not gagged so that (conveniently for the plot) she can yell out: "It's a trap!"; "He's behind you!"; "I'm over here!", etc.
Kinky-napper
Saturday December 13 22:28:01 2008
West Coast Alert: Timber Falls
On the Sci Fi Channel, the movie: Timber Falls. Channel surfing and I saw the end of a scene where a blonde girl is gagged and tied to a chair. Happened around hour and ten minutes in.
Viking
Saturday December 13 22:30:42 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
Jute wrote:


> > 3) One small bit of rope goes loosely around her
> wrists
> > once, and she can't move an inch
> ...Others?
> 11. (pretty much related to #3) Left alone and poorly
> "restrained," she doesn't do anything except to
> maybe glance around the area helplessly.
> (Or)12. Using a paperclip or hairpin, the damsel is able
> to quickly unlock her handcuffs or the padlock holding
> her chains, and/or the lock on the room she's in.

13) The rope used to tie up DID's is always clean, the tape is almost always brand new. Few females in mainstream media get tied up with greasy rope.
Barry Ohama
Saturday December 13 23:08:30 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
John wrote:

> Watching a batch of clips recently, I began thinking of
> bondage cliches that irritated me. Below are a few.
> Feel free to add your own.

A.) Damsel struggles mightily -- but the scene is too dark to see much.

B.) Two or more damsels sit with their hands tied behind their backs, ankles tied, maybe gagged. They struggle furiously and independently -- to no avail. It does not occur to them to try to untie each other.

C.) After damsel is freed, she shows no rope marks at all.

D.) Intermittent scenes of damsel working herself loose. She eventually gets loose -- but most of the progress seems to be made off camera and it is not clear how she actually freed herself.

E.) Damsel has her hands tied behind her back. First cliche -- she somehow finds something in handy reach to cut herself free with. Second cliche -- she cuts herself loose -- but to allow room for her to do so, her hands are so loosely tied that she could easily slip out of the ropes anyway.

F.) Despite being confined for several days in a row with her hands tied behind her back, she nevertheless is still perky and well made up with neat clothing and a perfect hairdo. Need fashion tips from her...

G.) Scene shows damsel with hands behind back, supposedly tied. But sloppy film editing shows split-second shot where her hands are clearly not actually tied.

H.) Her hands are held by an unusual pair of handcuffs that have many links of chain between them -- way more than standard models.

I.) Her hands are tied with rope that is thick enough to fasten a large schooner -- on the theory that the thicker the better (opposite is true).

J.) Movie box or promotional material shows bondage scene quite unlike anything contained in the actual movie or magazine -- detective magazine covers were especially notorious for this.
hangdogit
hangdogit@gmail.com
Saturday December 13 23:08:48 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
Barry Ohama wrote:> 13) The rope used to tie up DID's is always clean, the
> tape is almost always brand new. Few females in
> mainstream media get tied up with greasy rope.


And no damsel ever gets gagged with a filthy, booger-filled hankerchief. It always looks like it was bought from a store five minutes before the kidnapping.
Monty
monty39@verizon.net
Saturday December 13 23:12:17 2008
Re: Bondage cliches
hangdogit wrote:

> F.) Despite being confined for several days in a row with
> her hands tied behind her back, she nevertheless is still
> perky and well made up with neat clothing and a perfect
> hairdo. Need fashion tips from her...

Also...no matter how long a damsel has been tied up, she'll never have to pee. She'll get untied by her rescuer, and despite being lashed to a chair for the last 24 hours, the first thing she'll do is hug/kiss her rescuer, instead of pushing him aside and running for the nearest restroom.
Monty
monty39@verizon.net

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