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Monday January 09 09:35:21 2012
Re: mainstream...
Years ago Brian made the ruling that content was the deciding factor not availability.

So if one of the premium cbale channels runs a late night show that deals with a bondage fetish event, or profiles a past, or present, bondage model/producer/rigger that show is Off Topic for here despite the fact that a mainstream TV channel aired it.
Jacot
Monday January 09 10:04:02 2012
Inquiry
What scene is this from?
http://majorjohns.com/BLOCK_03.jpg
Monday January 09 11:12:37 2012
Re: mainstream
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Miss Cleo wrote:
> > Agreed, SS. No offense, MagickRat, but your
> definition
> > really isn't accurate within the context of this
> site.

< Why?

For the exact reasons I listed immediately after that statement. Guess that's too confusing, huh?
Miss Cleo
Monday January 09 12:17:45 2012
Identify A Scene Please!
To belatedly wish David Bowie a happy birthday, can anyone identify this scene? I saw it before a B.B. King video once, but I'm not sure it's connected to that video of the bluesman.
It was a fierce looking David with a gagged female at his shoulder and he was holding at a gun and making a threat to someone out of camera shot. I saw it ages ago and I was wondering what it could be?
I did think "The Linguini Incident", but according to the database, there's no gags in that film.
Or even women with things tied around their mouths.
Old George
Monday January 09 14:01:26 2012
Re: Identify A Scene Please!
Old George wrote:

> To belatedly wish David Bowie a happy birthday, can
> anyone identify this scene? I saw it before a B.B. King
> video once, but I'm not sure it's connected to that video
> of the bluesman.
> It was a fierce looking David with a gagged female at his
> shoulder and he was holding at a gun and making a threat
> to someone out of camera shot. I saw it ages ago and I
> was wondering what it could be?
> I did think "The Linguini Incident", but
> according to the database, there's no gags in that film.
> Or even women with things tied around their mouths.

In "Everybody Loves Sunshine" Bowie plays the manager of a club who is an associate of some vicious thugs. At one point a gagged and bound woman is held in his club, and he chokes her to death while she is still tied and gagged on orders from one of the gangsters. Might have been an OTS scene, but I don't remember it. It's a brutal, vicious movie, and like a lot of people have said recently, it kills a scene when I know the damsel gets snuffeth.
Pat Powers
Monday January 09 14:26:59 2012
Re: Identify A Scene Please!
Pat Powers wrote:

In "Everybody Loves Sunshine" Bowie plays the
manager of a club who is an associate of some vicious
thugs.

Ah... I was hoping the scene would be played for laughs. Oh well, gives me a good lead. Many thanks!
Old George
Monday January 09 14:28:58 2012
Contraband
Likely will be a major letdown, given Kate's track record
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2GUqOV697-s/TviK-SpS1XI/AAAAAAAAI40/VqeXMKzLN-w/s1600/contraband.jpg
Monday January 09 14:29:57 2012
Re: Contraband
> Likely will be a major letdown, given Kate's track record

Hopefully the duct tape in the poster has some significance

Monday January 09 14:47:10 2012
J-Lo Returning to 'In Living Color'
Perhaps to recreate the mass B&G scene that she missed out on
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/InLivingColor-224.jpg
http://www.contactmusic.com/news/jennifer-lopez-eyes-in-living-color-return_1281562
Monday January 09 15:54:39 2012
Re: Contraband
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > Likely will be a major letdown, given Kate's track
> record

I don't understand the pessimism. Kate's usually the lead in her movies, thus lessening the likelihood of a scene. In this one, she's playing the lead's wife, and we already know for a fact her character gets kidnapped. That's an entirely different context.

Still doesn't mean she'll get a scene, but she's no less likely to get one here than any other actress would be. I'll remain hopeful.
Miss Cleo
Monday January 09 15:57:14 2012
Re: J-Lo Returning to 'In Living Color'
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Perhaps to recreate the mass B&G scene that she
> missed out on

The lovely lass at the bottom is Carrie Ann Inaba from Dancing with the Stars, so at least that scene had her cuteness going on.
Miss Cleo
Monday January 09 17:41:40 2012
Black Mirror. The national anthem
Bizarre british show contains a scene with the actress Lydia Wilson tied to a chair and tape gagged. Did i mention that its a bizarre show? dont forget that fact.
Mandrake
Monday January 09 18:19:39 2012
Re: J-Lo Returning to 'In Living Color'
I know the Flygirls being tied was played for laughs but that has to rank high on the list of ineffectual tying.

Monday January 09 19:39:58 2012
Re: Inquiry
> What scene is this from?

Movie "The Korean", there is a release from group "vomit" on the net
Portuguese
Monday January 09 20:27:52 2012
Re: J-Lo Returning to 'In Living Color'
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I know the Flygirls being tied was played for laughs but
> that has to rank high on the list of ineffectual tying.

Well, yeah. The jargon term "loosie bondage" applies, but I think this is something else. It's a very old joke which has been "told" a zillion times, a actor gets rid of rival or rivals by "tying them up." The dirty deed is exposed to the audience and everybody laughs. We've seen it on variety shows, talk shows, TV commercials, etc.

I propose the new jargon term "Symbolic Bondage" for this situation.

sym·bo·lic bon·dage (sim-bôl'ik bôn'dij) noun. The use of restraint as a dramatic device.

By no means are "symbolic bondage" and "loosie bondage" (blatantly ineffective restraint) mutually exclusive. In fact, I bet a Venn diagram of "symbolic" and "loosie" would show mostly overlap. Loosie addresses the what question. Symbolic addresses the why question.

That said, there's absolutely no reason that door couldn't have opened and Fly Girls in super-tight and elaborate Shibari bondage and tight gags couldn't have spilled out. So... why didn't it happen? Ease of production, of course. (Van's Second Law of Mainstream Media Bondage: Bad bondage happens 'cause it's cheap, fast, and easy.)

Symbolic bondage is used not just for joke punchlines. Lazy directors use it for action/adventure, as well. We've all seen kidnap victims on cop shows who might as well be holding a coil of rope with a sign around their neck reading "BOUND & GAGGED." That's symbolic bondage in action. ;-)
Van
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Monday January 09 20:52:56 2012
Inquiry
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Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Monday January 09 20:54:39 2012
Hopeful
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Reason: Off-topic. Please try to follow instructions.
The Moderator
Monday January 09 21:46:04 2012
Re: Contraband
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Likely will be a major letdown, given Kate's track record
>


Maybe not, the duct tape all over that poster certainly shows promise.
Monday January 09 22:18:31 2012
WWE Raw
Last week, someone called Kane maybe capturing Eve.

It hasn't happened but Kane is stalking Ryder tonight who's character has a date with Eve afterwards.

She has a match tonight with Beth Phoenix so maybe something happens before or afterwards.

To whoever called it, it would be great if it happened.
joe
Monday January 09 22:23:45 2012
Fear Factor
In the first 15 minutes, two gals end up in a cage that is to be submerged into a pool. Two different gals are placed in cage and have each arm tied off to each side off her. The partner as to cut the metal cable that is strapped to the floor to free them.

NBC at 9pm
Monday January 09 22:27:48 2012
Re: J-Lo Returning to 'In Living Color'
> old joke which has been "told" a zillion times,
> a actor gets rid of rival or rivals by "tying them
> up." The dirty deed is exposed to the audience and
> everybody laughs. We've seen it on variety shows, talk
> shows, TV commercials, etc.

Just recently last year there was the scene on the Dish. Yeah, time honored trope, but I'm blanking on more examples sadly.
Monday January 09 22:39:39 2012
Re: WWE Raw
joe wrote:

> Last week, someone called Kane maybe capturing Eve.
> It hasn't happened but Kane is stalking Ryder tonight
> who's character has a date with Eve afterwards.
> She has a match tonight with Beth Phoenix so maybe
> something happens before or afterwards.

Eve's match is coming up next for those interested. USA Network for those in the US.

Monday January 09 22:59:09 2012
Re: J-Lo Returning to 'In Living Color'
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Just recently last year there was the scene on the Dish.
> Yeah, time honored trope, but I'm blanking on more
> examples sadly.

There was an example of this on a Bud Light commercial IIRC. A group of guys taking the place of a female band by bounding and gagging the group of girls in the back.
Paco The Bandit
Monday January 09 23:03:21 2012
Re: WWE Raw
I bet Kane is in the car and will drive off with her after Ryder is done changing the tire.

i'd love to see Eve gagged.

Kane has captured men and women before and once he gagged Great Khali's brother with a black bandana.

Eve will look great any way she is gagged though.

Please capture her.
joe
Monday January 09 23:06:48 2012
Re: WWE Raw
CRAP!

All Kane did was beat up Ryder and Cena.

A blown opportunity.

Monday January 09 23:14:05 2012
Re: Gag removal
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/didclips/

Beauty! Always thought The Wild Card was a real underrated scene

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