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Saturday February 18 01:04:44 2012
SI swimsuit edition
One of the models says something about being tied up in bondage gear in a prior shoot.
Makan Bakan
Saturday February 18 06:19:00 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Gibbs wrote:
> New fall TV series (CW) based on the 'Green Arrow'
> comics, Katie Cassidy has been added to the cast and may
> be playing the role of Black Canary, something to watch
> for later this year!

I checked out her IMDb profile, and it seems that she is a natural blonde. The Black Canary is actually a brunette who wears a blonde wig. I wonder whether she will be a brunette for this series, or will the producers simply have both the Canary and her alter ego be blonde?
Hadji
Saturday February 18 06:55:24 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Hadji wrote:

I wonder whether she will be a
> brunette for this series, or will the producers simply
> have both the Canary and her alter ego be blonde?

it could go either way.
Saturday February 18 09:05:36 2012
Fringe
Last night's episode of Fringe ended with Anna Torv and Blair Brown facing each other, both tied to chairs. Previews for next week hint that Anna will be undergoing some rough treatment while the rest of the team searches for them.

Gagster
Saturday February 18 09:31:24 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Gibbs wrote:
> New fall TV series (CW) based on the 'Green Arrow'
> comics, Katie Cassidy has been added to the cast and may
> be playing the role of Black Canary, something to watch
> for later this year!

I wonder what her Black Canary costume will be like? Will she wear the traditional leotard and fishnet stockings, an athletic leotard, or a more modest costume?
More importantly, how often will she be in bondage? How many times will she be bound and gagged for the duration of the series? In the pages of DC Comics, she was bound and gagged fairly often, since this was the most effective method of neutralizing her power, the Canary cry. Will the producers of the series emulate the example of the writers of DC Comics and have her bound and gagged every two or three episodes?
Hadji
Saturday February 18 10:58:51 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Hadji wrote:

> I wonder what her Black Canary costume will be like? Will
> she wear the traditional leotard and fishnet stockings,
> an athletic leotard, or a more modest costume?
> More importantly, how often will she be in bondage? How
> many times will she be bound and gagged for the duration
> of the series? In the pages of DC Comics, she was bound
> and gagged fairly often, since this was the most
> effective method of neutralizing her power, the Canary
> cry. Will the producers of the series emulate the example
> of the writers of DC Comics and have her bound and gagged
> every two or three episodes?

I have every single answer you're looking for, Hadji.

Seriously, who knows? All good questions. I think it's unlikely that in these modern times we'll get the fishnets and it's extremely unlikely we'll get that sort of bondage regularity. That's just not how American TV works in 2012. The big question is whether they treat her superpower as something that can be neutralized with a basic cloth/tape gag, or whether it can only be neutralized with some strong piece of metal or device. I'd hope for the former, but in these times of more realistic heroes, they might well go with the latter.
Miss Cleo
Saturday February 18 11:10:32 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
>realistic heroes, they might well go with the latter.

Costume, I think if she has one at all, will likely not be the "classic" one if only because superhero films and TV shows almost never feature exact translations of the costumes. And for good reason.

Gagging is a lot more complex. I can't see them ALWAYS going for a bar/piece of metal/technology thing because at a certain point it'd be ridiculous for every foe to have a special restraint for her.

BUT in this day and age there's also not a chance in hell she'll be getting tied up and tape-gagged every episode either because people would catch on very quickly.

It depends on how often she'd be in peril at all, or if she even has superpowers in this show.
Saturday February 18 11:26:21 2012
Re: SI swimsuit edition
Makan Bakan wrote:

> One of the models says something about being tied up in
> bondage gear in a prior shoot.

Oh, which one?!

Saturday February 18 12:16:07 2012
Re: SI swimsuit edition
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Makan Bakan wrote:
> > One of the models says something about being tied up
> in
> > bondage gear in a prior shoot.
> Oh, which one?!

Sorry, don't remember. It was someone else's magazine, so I don't have a copy of it.

I'll do some checking online.
Makan Bakan
Saturday February 18 13:59:36 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Gagging is a lot more complex. I can't see them ALWAYS
> going for a bar/piece of metal/technology thing because
> at a certain point it'd be ridiculous for every foe to
> have a special restraint for her.

Oh, I totally agree. I just meant there's a lot less likelihood of seeing her gagged on a regular basis for that very reason. If a cloth or tape gag is enough to negate her sonic scream, as with Zatanna using magic words, the likelihood of at least an occasional scene goes up a whole lot. If they need technology, it goes way down. Plus some devices might not be really gag-related, like putting her in a special box, or a collar that restrains her vocal chords, something like that. And you're right, they might not go with the sonic scream idea at all.

Ultimnately, it's a crapshoot. Let's just hope for the best.
Miss Cleo
Saturday February 18 14:00:59 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Er, I meant vocal cords, not "chords." (I hate misspellings.)
Miss Cleo
Saturday February 18 15:36:03 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Hadji wrote:
> Will the producers of the series emulate the example
> of the writers of DC Comics and have her bound and gagged
> every two or three episodes?

A good chance an effective looking gag will crop up at some point, with different methods of keeping her quiet in other episodes to mix it up a little.
British Beef
Saturday February 18 17:34:29 2012
Waterloo Road
New trailer for Waterloo Road on BBC1 Wednesday, shows a quick glimpse of students (female & male) with tape over their mouths, in some kind of demonstration.
British Beef
Saturday February 18 18:20:48 2012
Cloo
My DirecTV service is no longer carrying the channel CLOO as part of its basic package. I was not able to record the GET SMART scenes this morning because of this. Is this the case with anybody else?
Zarak
Saturday February 18 19:45:14 2012
Anyone Seen This?
Title: Late Night With David Letterman
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Unknown

Description: Episode: Unknown

Some screwy things are happening in the show so Dave goes to investigate. The whole control room has been taken over by a guest star. All the operators are bound and gagged. Guy alert.


It sounds interesting and I love the whole "Taken over" scenario. Is this legit? Anyone remember seeing this?
Saturday February 18 19:47:10 2012
Re: Cloo
Zarak wrote:

> My DirecTV service is no longer carrying the channel CLOO
> as part of its basic package.

It's still on the DISH lineup.
Makan Bakan
Saturday February 18 21:07:13 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> >realistic heroes, they might well go with the latter.
> Costume, I think if she has one at all, will likely not
> be the "classic" one if only because superhero
> films and TV shows almost never feature exact
> translations of the costumes. And for good reason.
> Gagging is a lot more complex. I can't see them ALWAYS
> going for a bar/piece of metal/technology thing because
> at a certain point it'd be ridiculous for every foe to
> have a special restraint for her.
> BUT in this day and age there's also not a chance in hell
> she'll be getting tied up and tape-gagged every episode
> either because people would catch on very quickly.
> It depends on how often she'd be in peril at all, or if
> she even has superpowers in this show.

Your speculations sound very plausible. I think that the costume will be a variant of the leotard the Canary wears. The entertainment industry has the best costume designers in the world, and they will design a sexy costume specifically for the contours of Katie Cassidy's physique. I wonder whether they will consult with her about the costume, and find out what she is willing or unwilling to wear? Didn't the Black Canary character who appeared on Smallville wear some sort of leotard?
Yes, I think she will be gagged at least once, more likely two or three times during the series. The producers can't have her bound and gagged every two or three episodes, but they will have her gagged a few times at the very least.
I'm sure that Katie Cassidy had to read some Black Canary comics in order to familiarize herself with the character she will play, and that she certainly noted the frequency with which the Black Canary is bound and gagged. I wonder whether she brought this to the attention of her agent or the producers?
Hadji
Saturday February 18 21:11:47 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Miss Cleo wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Gagging is a lot more complex. I can't see them
> ALWAYS
> > going for a bar/piece of metal/technology thing
> because
> > at a certain point it'd be ridiculous for every foe
> to
> > have a special restraint for her.
> Oh, I totally agree. I just meant there's a lot less
> likelihood of seeing her gagged on a regular basis for
> that very reason. If a cloth or tape gag is enough to
> negate her sonic scream, as with Zatanna using magic
> words, the likelihood of at least an occasional scene
> goes up a whole lot. If they need technology, it goes way
> down. Plus some devices might not be really gag-related,
> like putting her in a special box, or a collar that
> restrains her vocal chords, something like that. And
> you're right, they might not go with the sonic scream
> idea at all.
> Ultimnately, it's a crapshoot. Let's just hope for the best.

The Black Canary was almost always gagged with a cloth. I recall one instance when she was able to remove her gag with her sonic scream; it was in a short story where she is captured by a trio of idiot brothers. I don't recall her being able to remove her gag with her sonic scream in any other instance. The villain Hellgrammite had her gagged with some adhesive substance wrapped completely around her mouth, and the Penguin once gagged her with a cloth. She was able to remove the former gag with her sonic scream and the latter she worked free. This begs the question, how come she doesn't use her sonic scream to remove her gags more often?
Hadji
Saturday February 18 22:15:25 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
Hadji wrote:

> The Black Canary was almost always gagged with a cloth. I
> recall one instance when she was able to remove her gag
> with her sonic scream; it was in a short story where she
> is captured by a trio of idiot brothers.

...and on, and on, and on.

Dude, chill. It doesn't matter how a variety of comic book writers over the past three decades interpreted her powers. All that matters is how American TV writers and producers interpret her powers, and her character in general, in 2012. Enjoy the comics all you want; I certainly did. But that has nothing to do with what we're going to see on TV. Wonder Woman got tied up in damn near every comic in the '40s... because her creator was into bondage. That isn't going to happen in 2012. Times change.
Miss Cleo
Saturday February 18 22:33:04 2012
Re: Anyone Seen This?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Title: Late Night With David Letterman

Yeah. Albert Brooks was the "villain" as I recall. I think
Jude Brennan was the only female involved, but it's been
quite a while.


Brian R
Saturday February 18 22:55:50 2012
Re: Arrow - new fall TV series
> whether she brought this to the attention of her agent >or the producers?

I doubt it came up. I know it's good fodder for the bondage message boards but I mean realistically I doubt it was discussed. Especially when Canary is rarely gagged in the comics anymore.
Saturday February 18 23:17:37 2012
Re: Cloo
Makan Bakan wrote:

> Zarak wrote:
> > My DirecTV service is no longer carrying the channel
> CLOO
> > as part of its basic package.
> It's still on the DISH lineup.

Directv is still carrying Cloo, but you need the Choice Ultimate package, at a minimum. Check the station lineups at the link.
Gagster
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packages/base_packages.jsp?footernavtype=-1&lpos=header

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