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Monday March 26 00:31:40 2012
Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
This drives me crazy. You tie up the damsel or damsels with duct tape but golly gee you resort to a thin cleave gag. Not once but twice. You have tape, use it.
Nite Owl
Monday March 26 00:31:42 2012
Endure
So how come nobody is talking about the movie Endure, which premiered on MAX last night? An attractive blonde girl is bound and cleave-gagged right from the beginning, and spends the entire movie bound to a tree in the woods, with her hands strung up above her head and feet to the tree (still cleaved).

I'm sure they will be showing it a bunch more. I'm just curious why there has been no mention of it here. I know I can't be the only one who noticed it. They have been showing the preview, in between movies, for weeks. The movie itself is pretty cheese, but worth a look for the DID, at least IMHO.
Wavy
Monday March 26 00:51:57 2012
Re: Endure
Wavy wrote:So how come nobody is talking about the movie Endure, which premiered on MAX last night? I'm just
curious why there has been no mention of it here. I know I can't be the only one who noticed it.

You are right - it had been noticed a while back, and discussed here:

Record number: 15486

Title: Endure
Medium: Movie
Actress: Clare Kramer, Unkowns

Description: Clare Kramer is bound and cleave-gagged throughout this film, starting with the very first scene. Lots of closeups of her with a twisted white cloth gag between her teeth in the first six minutes, and then sporadically throughout the film. She's often covered in sweat and dew, tied to a tree in the Florida woods, arms cuffed above her. There's a great tight closeup of her gagged face in profile, an ant on her cheek, drool running off her lower lip.

Also, about 65 minutes into the film, detectives find a wall in the killer's house where the killer has posted 18 different Polaroids of his victims. They're all closeups of the women's faces, and they're all cleave-gagged in the same way Kramer's character is. You don't get good closeups of the pictures, but it's pretty neat anyway.

For completists only, there's also a dead victim in the killer's lair shown at about the 58 minute mark. Her wrists are chained separately above her, but she's dead and bloody.

One fun note is that the DVD has 12 chapters, and four of those chapters in the DVD menu are illustrated with shots of Kramer gagged, two of them closeups.

Finally, the DVD has a short extra that gives us several different shots of Kramer gagged behind the scenes, including a couple of seconds of gag-talking to the director.


Walter
Monday March 26 03:00:16 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
Nite Owl wrote:

> This drives me crazy. You tie up the damsel or damsels
> with duct tape but golly gee you resort to a thin cleave
> gag. Not once but twice. You have tape, use it.

I noticed that as well. Does anybody have an idea as to why they did it that way?

Zarak
Monday March 26 03:24:48 2012
Re: Endure
Walter wrote:


> You are right - it had been noticed a while back, and
> discussed here:
> Record number: 15486

Okay, admittedly I didn't check the database. I did do a search for the title in the Discussion forum and didn't get any results at the time. I guess I just figured since it was premiering on cable, someone would have mentioned it is all. There was probably an alert for it too, since I didn't check the Alerts forum either. Hehe!

Anyway, if anybody hasn't seen it yet, now they can. Cleave gag fans will probably want to check it out, if they haven't already. I imagine "hands over head" fans will like it as well.
Wavy
Monday March 26 04:07:30 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
Zarak wrote:

> I noticed that as well. Does anybody have an idea as to
> why they did it that way?

Sometimes actresses don't like to have their mouth taped. It really, really hurts when it's taken off.
Monday March 26 08:48:38 2012
Re: Endure
Wavy wrote:

> So how come nobody is talking about the movie Endure,
> which premiered on MAX last night? An attractive blonde
>
> I'm just curious why there has been no mention of it
> here. I know I can't be the only one who noticed it.

It was discussed here a lot in May when the DVD was released. I made a meticulous 10min edit of all the DiD action (probably one of my finest clips), but that unfortunately got zapped with the Megaupload shitstorm.

Great scene either way. Certainly made for some wonderful visuals, particularly that close-up of drool from Kramer's cute, tightly gagged lips:

http://i.imgur.com/EvuWk.jpg
Sam
Monday March 26 09:42:54 2012
Inquiry
What scene is this from?
http://majorjohns.com/xmon_02.jpg
Monday March 26 12:52:56 2012
Panty page
Can someone inform me what happened to the Italian forum page that was available at http://www.panty.yuku.com? I cant find it.
Paolo
Monday March 26 14:19:40 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
Zarak wrote:I noticed that as well. Does anybody have an idea as to why they did it that way?

I am assuming it was to show Jennifer's creative resourceful escape skills. Bad guy, never leave the empty tea cup just lying around in front of your captive.

Walter
Monday March 26 15:22:36 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
Walter wrote:

> I am assuming it was to show Jennifer's creative
> resourceful escape skills.

That does not explain why she was cleavegagged instead of tapegagged, when she was bound with tape.

Zarak
Monday March 26 20:39:33 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave



Is this really a topic?????

Monday March 26 21:15:09 2012
Brians Page
The site was down all afternoon and had me worried. Hope all is ok now. Can the admin explain what happened?
don knotts
Monday March 26 21:16:46 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Is this really a topic?????

If it wasn't a topic the mod would have done something about it.
however, yes, this is a topic.
Avi
Monday March 26 21:19:34 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
This post was deleted.

Poster: (unsigned poster)
Reason: Off-topic.
The Moderator
Monday March 26 21:20:18 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Is this really a topic?????

I agree, non-productive.

The Moderator
Monday March 26 21:20:59 2012
Re: Brians Page
don knotts wrote:

> The site was down all afternoon and had me worried. Hope
> all is ok now. Can the admin explain what happened?

Server problem. The hosting company dealt with it after
I reported the issue.

The Engineer
Monday March 26 21:21:40 2012
Re: Bound w/Tape, Gagged w/Cleave
Avi wrote:

> If it wasn't a topic the mod would have done something
> about it.

And now he has. Move along.



The Moderator
Monday March 26 22:15:55 2012
Avengers - Black Widow
New trailer has a scene where she is tied to a chair and clad in a cocktail dress. She proceeds to bust out and beat up her captors.
Monday March 26 22:44:12 2012
Re: Avengers - Black Widow
> clad in a cocktail dress. She proceeds to bust out and
> beat up her captors.

What? Where's this? Could you post link in vid section?
blacktom109@yahoo.com

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