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Thursday April 12 01:09:14 2012
Re: Psych - "Santabarbaratown"
Zarak wrote:

> There is no bondage for "Juliet O'Hara" (Maggie
> Lawson) in this episode.

Tapemaster / Kaman, is that you?
Thursday April 12 06:01:36 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
HALLBIRD wrote:
> Gotta give Dana a lot of credit for being such a good
> sport. Not many stars of their own shows would go along
> with being bound and gagged like Dana was. And I'm not
> talking about shows where you co-star with somebody else,
> I'm talking about shows where you're the big kahuna.
> Kudos to Dana.

She does deserve accolades for agreeing to be bound and gagged for a prolonged period of time on a show in which she is the star and producer. I can think of one other such case: Victoria Principal in Blind Witness. She was bound and gagged with packaging tape in that movie, and was either the producer or the director, as I recall. She even had the tape wound completely around her mouth; this was facilitated by her having short hair. I wonder whether she cut it short just so she could be gagged in that manner?
Hadi
Thursday April 12 06:53:13 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
Bah. Humbug.

Weak-ass loosie, barely-stuck-on tape "gag" crappola nonsense.

*Yawn*

Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.
The Greyman
Thursday April 12 08:14:28 2012
Re: Dos Hogares
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > anyone know if anything has
> > started,
> > > bondage-wise, on Dos Hogares yet?
> > Dude the scene has already aired many months ago and
> it
> > is available on Daily motion and You tube, that's
> why
> > nobody is talking about it!

> Well, maybe so, but what I am talking about is a couple
> days ago someone posted that the scene would be airing
> sometime this week on Univision. That's the one I am
> waiting for, not interested in the ones available online.
> And it may have aired months ago on Telemundo or some
> other Spanish channel but the only one I get is Univision
> so that is the airing I was referring to.

The scene began near the episode on Tuesday. The gal was chloro'ed and carried too some phycho guy's bedroom, where she was tied hand and foot & tape gagged while unconscious. Continued on yesterday's episode. Ungagged at one point but then seen re-gagged (and unconscious) again.
Scene should continue today (Thursday).

JP
japfeif@aol.com
Thursday April 12 08:40:13 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
The Greyman wrote:

> Bah. Humbug.
> Weak-ass loosie, barely-stuck-on tape "gag"
> crappola nonsense.
> *Yawn*
> Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.

Well that's more like it! There was a thought in the back of my mind about how there was so much positive reaction to an otherwise good-but-not-great scene, but then this post reminded me of how much I had missed your anti-tape gag rants. :-D

They always make me see things from the other side of the fence, so to speak. That is, whilst I always dig the aesthetics of even a weak-ass loosie piece of tape on a damsel's mouth, at the same time I can totally appreciate the disdain for its utter impracticality.

But then, I'm more of a traditional chairtie or hogtie kinda DiD fan (in terms of pure imagery) who's never been into the über-strict suspension or shibari stuff. It tends to pass right by me if I see it. So, I'd always rather see a damsel with a loosie tape gag & her hands in front, over one that's suspended many feet off the floor with elaborate ropework.
Sam
Thursday April 12 10:18:40 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
The Greyman wrote:

> Bah. Humbug.
> Weak-ass loosie, barely-stuck-on tape "gag"
> crappola nonsense.
> *Yawn*
> Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.

Oh c'moon man! You can't be serious! That little scene had alot going for it. Okay, it wasn't a top 20 or even 100 scene, but it's still quite interesting. Beautiful woman, nice close ups, excellent appliction of the gag, good pan-up shot showing tied feet, mmphing cutely, saying "i'm not gonna beg...," and that disadainful stare when she was in profile!! Nah. It was beyond OK. It was hot.
doug
Thursday April 12 10:35:27 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
Sam wrote:

> The Greyman wrote:
> > Bah. Humbug.
> > Weak-ass loosie, barely-stuck-on tape
> "gag"
> > crappola nonsense.
> > *Yawn*
> > Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.
> Well that's more like it! There was a thought in the > chairtie or hogtie

To be honest, when the baddie put the tape over her moth, it was tight and secure. It was a good tape gag.

Subsequent shots show the gag being loose, and the bottom left hand corner was off her skin. As well, if you noticed, when she first got gagged, there was no skin showing under her nose. Again later shots showed a gap from the nape under her nose to the duct tape.

So I wonder, how many times was the tape applied for that scene? At least 2 for sure. The lucky bastard on set who got to tape her mouth shut.

M7
Thursday April 12 11:05:18 2012
Body of Dana
Loosie bondage? Kinda. Wimpy duct-tape (probably rigged by the prop guy to protect the high-paid talent's lips and skin? Yes. But---

IT'S DANA FRAKKIN' DELANY!!

The DiDverse is multidimensional. Material used (rope, handcuffs, tape, etc.), techniques employed (hands-in-front, hands-behind-back, AOH, spreadeagled on bed, etc.), are all important. Likewise believability of the bondage, dramatic context, length and coverage of scene. However, a VERY STRONG dimension is---CELEBRITY!

An unknown starlet in convincing shibari-style bondage can be trumped by, say, Olivia Dunham (Anna Trov) ungagged and rather loosely tied to an easy chair or Dana Scully (Gillian Anderson) cuffed by one hand to a radiator.

Would I have liked it better if Hannibal Lite had stripped Dr. Hunt to her undies and semi-mummified her from head to toe in duct-tape? Duh! Still---

IT'S DANA FRAKKIN' DELANY!!
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Thursday April 12 12:15:12 2012
Re: Dos Hogares
I love these spanish soap scenes. They are generally so much higher caliber than what we see on prime time english-language TV these days.

Beautiful, voluptuous actresses, hair and makeup perfect, tight clothes, and very importantly -- good lighting!

Long may they mmmppphhhh.
Thursday April 12 12:18:33 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
M7 wrote:

> To be honest, when the baddie put the tape over her moth,
> it was tight and secure. It was a good tape gag.

The profile shot was also tight, you could hear her breathing through her nose because the tape was on so tight. Follow-up shots were loose, either retaping or it just came loose durin a long scene.
Thursday April 12 12:41:51 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
doug wrote:

> mmphing cutely

That adorable squeak of an mmpphh she made just before her friend showed up was, for me, what MADE that scene. So much better than her Castle one.
Sam
Thursday April 12 13:23:06 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
The Greyman wrote:

> Bah. Humbug.
> Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.

The wardrobe was horrendous also.

Thursday April 12 14:29:08 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
The Greyman wrote:
> Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.
Roger that. You can go back to sleep now.

Thursday April 12 14:57:21 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> M7 wrote:
> > To be honest, when the baddie put the tape over her
> moth,
> > it was tight and secure. It was a good tape gag.
> The profile shot was also tight, you could hear her
> breathing through her nose because the tape was on so
> tight. Follow-up shots were loose, either retaping or it
> just came loose durin a long scene.

Actually if you look closely in Sam's HD clip, you can see the outline of something behind the tape to protect her lips

DarkRider
Thursday April 12 15:11:53 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The Greyman wrote:
> > Bah. Humbug.
> > Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.
> The wardrobe was horrendous also.
Well, as long as nits are being picked, mine would be (since I'm more of a bonds than gags guy) that her arms should have gone over the back of the chair rather than around the sides. Unless she has Dikembe Motumbo - length forearms, there's no way her wrists are going to meet behind that chair. BUT... I was so happy to see that it wasn't "hands in front" that it didn't really bother me all that much. As has been pointed out, it was a good-looking major tv star in a pretty well-done scene. And I'll take that every night that I can get it.
Cinch
Thursday April 12 16:38:28 2012
Re: Tatort
MT wrote:

> steve a wrote:
> > Simone Thomballa
> > got her fourth full treatment scene in this week's
> > Tatort. Anyone have anyone more info?
> Only 2 in the db.

There's a tape gag scene, where she plays a doctor on a children's ward who gets mixed up with the evil older teens drug dealings and left B&Ged in a basement. I've never seen it shown again, but do have it somewhere on VHS. It's a decent if nothing amazing scene.

then's there's the two in the database...
steve a
Thursday April 12 20:59:47 2012
Re: Dos Hogares
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I love these spanish soap scenes. They are generally so
> much higher caliber than what we see on prime time
> english-language TV these days.
> Beautiful, voluptuous actresses, hair and makeup perfect,
> tight clothes, and very importantly -- good lighting!
> Long may they mmmppphhhh.

I absolutely agree with that sentiment. I can't believe that English language consistantly can't produce nice high quality scenes. I wish the 70's with shows like The FBI and Mannix were on again talk about well lit quality scenes.

Junior Griffey
Thursday April 12 21:05:26 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Van wrote:

> Loosie bondage? Kinda.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we actually get a good look at Dana's bound hands.


Zarak
Thursday April 12 21:12:24 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Van wrote:

> Wimpy duct-tape (probably rigged
> by the prop guy to protect the high-paid talent's lips
> and skin? Yes.

The tapegag could have stuck to her lips better, but it still looks very good. Some shots of the tapegag look stickier than other shots.

Zarak
Thursday April 12 21:16:27 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Van wrote:

> But---
> IT'S DANA FRAKKIN' DELANY!!

I AGREE with this. Dana Delany is gorgeous and seeing her bound and gagged is great!

Zarak
Thursday April 12 21:23:31 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Zarak wrote:

> I could be wrong, but I don't think we actually get a
> good look at Dana's bound hands.

We did. They showed a good close-up of her cutting the tape around her wrists with the piece of glass.
Sam
Thursday April 12 21:27:25 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Van wrote:

> The DiDverse is multidimensional. Material used (rope,
> handcuffs, tape, etc.), techniques employed
> (hands-in-front, hands-behind-back, AOH, spreadeagled on
> bed, etc.), are all important. Likewise believability of
> the bondage, dramatic context, length and coverage of
> scene.

I AGREE with this. Women can be bound and gagged many different ways and a bondage scene can be shot many different ways. All of these aspects are important to our enjoyment of a bondage scene.



However, a VERY STRONG dimension is---CELEBRITY!
> An unknown starlet in convincing shibari-style bondage
> can be trumped by, say, Olivia Dunham (Anna Trov)
> ungagged and rather loosely tied to an easy chair or Dana
> Scully (Gillian Anderson) cuffed by one hand to a
> radiator.
> Would I have liked it better if Hannibal Lite had
> stripped Dr. Hunt to her undies and semi-mummified her
> from head to toe in duct-tape? Duh! Still---
> IT'S DANA FRAKKIN' DELANY!!
http://www.vansfiction.net

Zarak
Thursday April 12 21:30:01 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Van wrote:

> However, a VERY STRONG dimension is---CELEBRITY!

I AGREE with this. The celebrity status of a damsel is important.

Zarak
Thursday April 12 21:34:18 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Van wrote:

> An unknown starlet in convincing shibari-style bondage
> can be trumped by, say, Olivia Dunham (Anna Trov)
> ungagged and rather loosely tied to an easy chair or Dana
> Scully (Gillian Anderson) cuffed by one hand to a
> radiator.

I DISAGREE with this. Gag always trumps no gag. It doesn't matter what type of gag: over-the-mouth, cleave, tape, ball, a bound woman needs to be gagged.

Zarak
Thursday April 12 22:01:27 2012
Re: Body of Dana
Sam wrote:

> They showed a good close-up of her cutting the
> tape around her wrists with the piece of glass.

You are correct. I was thinking about the scene before she did that.

Zarak
Thursday April 12 22:04:27 2012
Re: BODY OF PROOF
The Greyman wrote:

> Bah. Humbug.
> Weak-ass loosie, barely-stuck-on tape "gag"
> crappola nonsense.
> *Yawn*
> Wake me when there's a REAL scene to discuss.

The scene has its faults, but it still works. It is a very sexy scene!

Zarak

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