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Wednesday June 16 01:33:00 2010
Re: video game scenes



Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb comes to mind.
Wednesday June 16 03:39:46 2010
Re: What makes a classic?
GagFan wrote:

> Yet there are scenes that i reckon should become
> classics, but they are largely forgotten. Most recently,
> a scene posted over at Rob's damsels, The 7th Hunt, i
> would have expected to garner some interest... a goth
> girl in a tartan skirt tape gagged, a model gagged and
> blindfolded, another blonde ots carried and tape gagged,
> a hogtied brunette, another hand gagged, all in a
> mainstream film, all bound and gagged at some point in
> various ways and styles.
> Yet nothing has been said about it.

With great respect, GagFan, I think part of the reason I'm not very interested in The 7th Hunt is because, while it certainly is mainstream by the letter of the law, it doest's SEEM very mainstream in spirit.

It doesn't have any actresses (female actors, if you prefer the PC version) who are well-known (or even somewhat known) in mainstream fare. It seems a least somewhat to be an excuse for numerous bondage scenes wrapped in a mainstream tortilla.

Again, that's just my opinion. I realize a lot of the cast has done true mainstream TV work overseas, so I'm not suggesting it's a softcore bondage flick. And believe me, I'm a huge fan of multiple damsels getting the treatment.

But for me, that plays a lot better if I'm familiar with some of the cast, or at least there's a compelling story tying together (yeah, yeah) the full treatment scenes. Just as my personal preference, I'll take one good scene with an actress I dig -- like the recent scene with Dana Delany, or the new (DVD) scene with Nikki Reed -- any day over a series of random chicks getting trussed up in a crappy movie.

Of course, I realize many readers here feel completely different about it. That's just my two cents.
Miss Cleo
Wednesday June 16 03:49:00 2010
Re: 7th Hunt
I think it hasn't been discussed much because most of us probably haven't seen it.
Wednesday June 16 03:57:39 2010
Re: What makes a classic?
GagFan wrote:

> But out of curiousity, what does everyone thinks makes a classic / talked about scene.

Oh, and to answer your question: To me, the actress alone could make a big difference, as I noted. However, a couple of other issues factor with me.

I really enjoy a scene if the damsel is a fully-formed character we know and like -- like Dana Scully in X-Files, for example. I also prefer scenes with powerful women far and away over those that feature passive types.

I really enjoy a scene if the bound-and-gagged damsel is active in some way, either through gag talk or realistic-looking attempts to escape. (The Susan Saint James scene where she's cleave gagged and calling the operator, for example, I consider a classic.)

I really enjoy comedic scenes, like The Big White, where Holly Hunter is sort of "playing along" with being bound and gagged, in a sense. And of course I love pairs of women getting the treatment and reacting to each other in the same scene, such as on Dangerous Curves, McLeod's Daughters or Partners in Crime.

Finally, I have a bit of a preference for when an exceptionally attractive non-white female gets the treatment. I think that's because such scenes are rare (for U.S. viewers such as myself, at least) compared to the abundance of scenes with white women.

Thus, scenes with Jessica Lucas in Amusement, Grace Park in Battlestar Galactica, Rekha Sharma in John Doe and Michael Michele in the aforementioned Dangerous Curves get a lot of extra credit with me. (I also prefer cleave gags, but I'm OK with tape if it's of the thin, form-fitting, translucent variety sported so gorgeously by Micheal Michele in that scene.)
Miss Cleo
Wednesday June 16 09:51:10 2010
Re: video game scenes
There's a couple of scenes in the 'Syphon Filter' games.In one release,'Dark Mirror' there's a scene for one female character,who's tied up in a chair,whilst the hero,Gabe Logan rescues her.At the end of the game,there's a bonus,when you have to rescue Gabe's Chinese female partner,Lian Xing,as she's held hostage by a Thai criminal king.Sadly,she's not bound or gagged,but it does look as if she's handgagged.In 'Logan's Shadow',you send in Gabe to rescue Maggie Powers,a British MI6 agent,held captive by some pretty nasty bad guys.Maggie's tied up,hands behind her in a chair too.The games are brilliant,and hopefully,if they do another Syphon Filter release,we could be in luck.I also heard Metal Gear Solid 4,Guns of the Patriots,has a scene? Can anyone confirm please? Many thanks.
David
Wednesday June 16 09:54:44 2010
Diesel underwear ad
Two girls handcuffed to a bedframe... on a beach.
http://www.lingerieweapon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Diesel-Intimate-Spring-Summer-2010-13.jpg
ss
Wednesday June 16 11:25:40 2010
Re: What makes a classic?
For me the actress makes a huge difference... A well known actress who has peviously eluded the treatment is going to instantly attract attention among our group. If the ropework is the least bit convincing it to an extent becomes an instant classic.
For me, lighting is important too, the ability to actually see the ropework.. just my opinion
Wednesday June 16 11:45:45 2010
Re: What makes a classic?
Miss Cleo wrote:

> GagFan wrote:
> > a scene posted over at Rob's damsels, The 7th Hunt,
> i
> > would have expected to garner some interest...

> With great respect, GagFan, I think part of the reason
> I'm not very interested in The 7th Hunt is because, while
> it certainly is mainstream by the letter of the law, it
> doest's SEEM very mainstream in spirit.

Having seen the whole film at a screening in Sydney, it's pretty mainstream, but without the context of the rest of the film, i see your point... maybe when it comes out on DVD stateside, you'll get to see the whole of it.

> It doesn't have any actresses (female actors, if you
> prefer the PC version) who are well-known ...

I see your point, seems to be the curse of any local industry, it is exactly that, local.

GagFan
Wednesday June 16 11:59:05 2010
Mi Gorda Bella - alert
Telemundo is re-running the 2002 Venezuelan soap Mi Gorda Bella. On today's episode, Norkys Batista got about 3 good handgags and is left tied hands in front to a bathroom urinal. Those with a Telemundo West feed should be able to catch it, scene is in the second half of the episode.

In tomorrow's episode, the still tied up Norkys is going to be cleave-gagged with a purple cloth. Scene of her gagged lasts a couple minutes. Mi Gorda Bella is airing at 9:00 a.m. Central time on Telemundo.
Dextor
Wednesday June 16 15:07:54 2010
One Life to Live - mini alert
Starr (Kristen Alderson) gets handgagged and dragged off screen in the last shot of today's episode. Handgag will probably be continued at start of tomorrow's episode. Won't lead to anything else, as the guy handgagging her will turn out to be a good guy and her new kinda love-interest, James.

There is a bad guy after them looking for a bag of cash causing Starr to run off and hide out with James. Don't think anything else is going to happen on this soap at least until early July or so, when I expect Starr will probably get kidnapped for real.
Dextor
Wednesday June 16 15:40:36 2010
Re: Alice Creed
The Moderator wrote:

> This post was deleted.
> Poster: Rago
> Reason: Off-topic.

A question meant politely...why is asking if there's an update on a movie filled with mainstream bondage off topic?
Rago
Wednesday June 16 15:42:25 2010
Re: B&G Movie Posters in Bollywood
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Indians do not have any qualms about highlighting movie
> bondage in 15-20 feet size giant posters across their
> major cities.
Excellent Post
I've been looking for a B&G still from that movie
Aishwarya gives an interview about her ordeal here
http://sites.google.com/site/damselindistressinterviews
that pic shows what she is talking about
OutlawUK
outlawuk@hotmail.com
http://sites.google.com/site/damselindistressinterviews
Wednesday June 16 15:47:57 2010
Re: video game scenes
GTA 4 Episodes In Liberty City has a scene where the same girl who was kidnapped in the original game is shown at the ransom drop off gagged and hands tied behind her

when asked if she is ok the kidnapper answers "she can't talk we got a gag in her mouth"
Wednesday June 16 16:05:17 2010
Re: One Life to Live - mini alert
Dextor wrote:

> Starr (Kristen Alderson) gets handgagged and dragged off
> screen in the last shot of today's episode.
> Won't lead to anything else, as the guy handgagging her
> will turn out to be a good guy and her new kinda
> love-interest, James.
> There is a bad guy after them looking for a bag of cash
> causing Starr to run off and hide out with James. Don't
> think anything else is going to happen on this soap at
> least until early July or so
Really an amazingly dumb scene, even by soap standards. The evil hood first shows up at Starr's apartment to return a handbag he found, hoping the owner knows about his missing money. After coming off as creepy as possible to Starr's roommate, he waits until she leaves and then immediately breaks in and ransacks the apartment. This guy is a real Professor Moriarty. Then we go to a high school graduation ceremony where after receiving her diploma Starr does not return to her seat like every other high school graduate I've ever seen, but steps "backstage" alone so she can be handgagged. And soaps wonder why they get no respect... Still, I suppose all will be forgiven if it eventually leads to a good scene. I kinda wish it would be with Dani though. Not only does she actually know about the money, but her mostly sullen brattiness (and hotness) really makes her a prime candidate imo.
Wednesday June 16 16:11:47 2010
Re: Cry in the Night (1956)
Kinky-napper wrote:

> > As for the Marburger book, its a valuable resource,
> but it is loaded with mistakes. > ~~~~

> Speaking about the dedication and sweat-equity required
> by the fore-runners of Brian's Page, a few of us here are old enough to remember what it was like:


I was never totally sure that Cry In The Night WAS the movie I saw back in the mid 1960's. What I remembered was that there was a movie which (I am 95% sure) starred a very young Raymond Burr as a psycho villain who kidnapped a brunette and had tied her up in a great scene. The scene was SO-O-O good, in my young mind, that I rushed out to the local library a few days later, to find the book the movie was based on. These events were one of only two times I ever did that (John Fowles' THE COLLECTOR was the other time). Years later, I acquired Marburger's book, and saw his very short listing for Cry In The Night, and assumed/got convinced even, that this was the movie I had seen years sooner. When I viewed this movie this past Monday, Natalie Wood didn't look like what I remembered.

BTW, I'm well aware of "scene creep" and all, but this scene exists somewhere, apparently in some other movie, which I may/may not ever find. Hey, Raymond Burr made other movies before TV's Perry Mason.

As others just pointed out, the Marburger book did seem to be inaccurate in many spots. In 1991, or 1992, I found that Carl McGuire's BOUND FOR HOLLYWOOD columns were being reproduced, and resold by mail. (They were cheaply copied, & had blue, yellow & red covers). After I purchased those, my "scene world" exploded, and for the next ten years or so, all I ever did was track down, buy VHS tapes, trade constantly with others and expand my scene collection rapidly. It was my all time-consuming passion. But, yeah, the Marburger book really wasn't the main source of knowledge.

BTW, I'm sure you older guys will relate to this also. I recall EVERY WEEK, buying TV guide and spending hours going through every page, looking for movies/TV episodes that maybe even had a chance for a scene. Found a lot of great stuff that way. Am sure I missed lots also, and, of course, also recorded tons of things which contained nothing of interest to us.

For you younger individuals, you people can't even imagine how BRIAN'S PAGE has simplified your world (thanks again, Brian). Finding scenes, at one time, was indeed a "full time job."
old man
Wednesday June 16 16:45:13 2010
Re: Trudy Young
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> old man wrote:
> > (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > > Almost like a hammerlock tie
> > What exactly is this from? The Littlest Hobo? And,
> if so,
> > what is that - an older TV show? Thanks
> Its from The Littlest Hobo
Okay, according to the database it was a tv series; was it in the U.S. or somewhere else? Any info is appreciated, especially if this is the series that also had the very tight cleave gag scene.

Wednesday June 16 16:57:55 2010
Re: Trudy Young
The Littlest Hobo
Okay, according to the database it was a tv series; was it in the U.S. or somewhere else? Any info is
appreciated, especially if this is the series that also
had the very tight cleave gag scene.

Littlest Hobo was a Canadian TV series, but I believe it also aired in the US.

Arnold S
Wednesday June 16 16:58:31 2010
Re: Trudy Young

> (unsigned poster) wrote:

> > > What exactly is this from? The Littlest Hobo?
Any info is
> appreciated, especially if this is the series that also
> had the very tight cleave gag scene.

Canadian TV series. The scene you refer to can be seen on Rob's page
Stevo
Wednesday June 16 17:23:32 2010
Babysitter Wanted
I don't know if this has been posted here yet, but I just got done watching this new horror movie 'Babysitter Wanted' and was quite pleasantly surprised to see a nice B&G scene involving Sarah Thompson (the babysitter) that was of decent length. It was slightly marred by dark shots of her gagged face but there were also well lit shots of her gagged face as well. Some nice 'mmmmph's from her too. There is another girl, a hot blonde (the one with the nice ass on the DVD cover) who is shown being taken from a truck while she's unconscious and her kidnappers mention that she has been drugged. She is then stripped to her white bra & panties and is strung upside down in front of the bound & gagged Sarah Thompson. Of course there is some gore that follows (this is a modern horror movie after all) so those who are queasy are forewarned. Still Thompson is shown bound & gagged for a decent length of time so it's worth checking out!

It also turned out to be a decent horror flick too with a great twist ;)

Sarah Thompson
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0860688/

Note: imdb doesn't show the more lurid cover which can be seen on Amazon.
Gag4Her
Wednesday June 16 17:24:50 2010
Re: Rounded Up and Hustled Away
> was on the telenovela El Rostro de Analia where Elizabeth
> Guitierrez, her sister played Ximena Duque and the mom
> are rounded up in the house one by one then bound and
cleave gagged and rushed into a waiting SUV as hostages.

Perhaps the longest scene ever with 3 damsels
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5SaeKxYLtvo/1.jpg
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5SaeKxYLtvo/2.jpg
http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/5SaeKxYLtvo/3.jpg
Wednesday June 16 17:37:17 2010
Ashley Greene
Hopefully a movie B&G scene soon
http://www.forum-twilight.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Ashley-Greene-Summers-Blood-4.jpg
http://www.interviewmagazine.com/files/2010/01/11/img-ashley-greene-3_104615605763.jpg_vmed.jpg
http://fashionindie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Picture-15.png
Wednesday June 16 17:45:15 2010
Re: Babysitter Wanted
Gag4Her wrote:

> I don't know if this has been posted here yet, but I just
> got done watching this new horror movie 'Babysitter
> Wanted' and was quite pleasantly surprised to see a nice
> B&G scene involving Sarah Thompson (the babysitter)
> that was of decent length..

Yes - it's in the DB!

Record number: 14070

Title: Babysitter Wanted (2008)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Tina Houtz, Sarah Thompson

Description: In the opening scene we see Tina Houtz with her hands tied behind her back and her feet tied together. A cleave gag keeps her quiet. She's wearing a black bra and panties. There are lines drawn all over her body, like butchering marks (they are). Tina is killed with a blow to the forehead by a ballpeen hammer. Later, Angie (Sarah Thompson) is babysitting a couples young son (he's actually Satan's son and only eats female flesh) when she is taken prisoner. She is tied hand and foot with rope and is cleave gagged with a blue bandanna. There is also a noose around her neck which keeps her up against a wall. Angie is forced to watch a drugged girl be stripped, lines drawn on her body, killed with a hammer, hung by her ankles, and butchered. This is a better movie than you would expect in spite of the description.
Wednesday June 16 18:06:11 2010
Re: B&G Movie Posters in Bollywood
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Here is one more. the gagged lady is a former Miss
> Universe Top 5.
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jQe0gCOgO8o/S7HFu2TMBbI/AAAAAAAA
> GlI/szBripW4X8Q/s1600/apartment-2010-1b-1.jpg

She wears a black cleave gag and bound hands behind here. In the movie, her hands are bound to the chair arms and she wears a red cleave gag. Weird.
Abel
Wednesday June 16 18:19:37 2010
Re: B&G Movie Posters in Bollywood
another
http://img.bollywoodsargam.com/albumsbolly/Iqraar_by_Chance_Movie//Iqraar_by_Chance_Movie_BollywoodSargam_hot_255786.jpg
kramer
Wednesday June 16 18:21:12 2010
Re: B&G Movie Posters in Bollywood
yet another
http://www.freemoviestheatre.com/media/images/IqraarByChance(2006).jpg
Kramer
Wednesday June 16 19:07:03 2010
Re: Rounded Up and Hustled Away
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > was on the telenovela El Rostro de Analia where
> Elizabeth
> > Guitierrez, her sister played Ximena Duque and the
> mom
> > are rounded up in the house one by one then bound
> and
> cleave gagged and rushed into a waiting SUV as hostages.
> Perhaps the longest scene ever with 3 damsels

That was one of the best multi-damsel scenes since "Terror Among Us." Lots of nice cleave gag closeups, though I wish the ladies would have worn shorts or short skirts to show more leg. Ankles should have been bound too, plus I would have preferred sheer white adhesive tape gags, but that's just me.
Delbert
Wednesday June 16 22:03:42 2010
Re: video game scenes
Go get your hands on Cold Winter for PS2 -- great, underrated game, with a full treatment DiD scene for the main lead's partner, who's of course smoking hot ... For PS2 graphics.

X
Wednesday June 16 22:31:08 2010
Happy Town - tonight
Some blonde (I guess Sarah Gadon) is handcuffed inside some weird guy's camper. Two or three scenes so far.
Dextor
Wednesday June 16 22:38:52 2010
what makes a classic?
Believe me as someone who's been visiting this site for years the fact that a scene gets talked about a lot has nothing to do about it's quality or lack of. I've seen many really good scenes that go by with nary a comment while nothing scenes get discussed ad nauseum. There are many reasons why a scene may be discussed a lot. Sometimes a nitpicker will say something that sets off a disagreement that goes on forever. Scenes with stars that people are familiar with and have been drooling over for years get more play than say foreign scenes that have unfamiliar actresses.
Are you referring to scenes that most people would agree with, or scenes that are classic based on an individuals, individual taste as your examples would imply?
HALLBIRD
Wednesday June 16 22:51:21 2010
Re: What makes a classic?
GagFan wrote:

> But out of curiousity, what does everyone thinks makes a classic / talked
> about scene.

I don't think there's an answer. A lot of the scenes people here think are classics don't work for me--the quickest that comes to mind is Joanna Going (I think that's her name) in her wedding slip in that Colombo TV movie. Other scenes I love hardly ever get mentioned. I'm a big fan of a lot of the European--especially German--stuff, because to me it seems more realistic, hard-and-gritty and the Germans seem to be very thorough in their use of chains, cuffs and tape. Therefore a lot of the "Kommissar" shows and Verboten Liebe are among my very favs. Their stuff isn't campy either, and often I find American stuff to be campy or overdone in some way.
Wednesday June 16 23:00:53 2010
Re: what makes a classic?
BTW, that's just my two cents. Not trying to start a flame war by saying so-and-so country's scenes are better than so-and-so's.
John

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