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Sunday March 29 01:18:26 2009
Re: Big game
Zahir wrote:

> Problema solucionada
> Big game scenes are working

I'm amused, in that I was just working on clips from this one today as well. I also discovered that, thanks to the fact that the movie is so fond of closeups, it's possible to edit out all three putzes completely (from the van scene at least) without causing any significant damage -- as long as one is willing to make about a billion little cuts.

Definitely the toughest edit I've done in months, but I'm hoping the results will be worth it.
Raffish
Sunday March 29 01:22:54 2009
Any reports on 12 rounds?
Ashley Scott finally I've been waiting for awhile.
Sunday March 29 02:22:27 2009
late alert -- The Substitute
"The Substitute" (Maria Celedonio bound and gagged) is on right now on channel 7 in the New York City area from 1:30 AM to 3:30 AM.
Tapemaster
Sunday March 29 02:36:57 2009
Re: late alert -- The Substitute
Tapemaster wrote:

> "The Substitute" (Maria Celedonio bound and
> gagged) is on right now on channel 7 in the New York City
> area from 1:30 AM to 3:30 AM.

Eastern time.

Tapemaster
Sunday March 29 02:46:47 2009
Re: late alert -- The Substitute
Tapemaster wrote:

> "The Substitute" (Maria Celedonio bound and
> gagged) is on right now on channel 7 in the New York City
> area from 1:30 AM to 3:30 AM.


You just posted this over on VHS Alerts right now?

===================
The Substitute
Day: Sunday March 29 2009
Time: 1:30 AM - 3:30 AM eastern
Channel: Channel 7 (New York City area)
Maria Celedonio bound and gagged.
Record number: 863

Title: The Substitute (1996)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Maria Celedonio

Description: Maria has her hands tied in front of her and gagged with duct tape. About ten minutes in length. I believe this is in the second half.

Tapemaster
===============================

Suggest using the zap2it listings and give the boys at least a days notice
Thanks
Jay L
http://www.zap2it.com/
Sunday March 29 02:55:12 2009
Re: Seaquest DSV
Van wrote:

> David wrote:
> Haven't found
> anything on the DB yet.

> Uh... which DB?
Record number: 12160
Title: SeaQuest DSV
Record number: 12286
Title: SeaQuest DSV


Van's correct.
There's no search failure exactly how you posted it in the title. Try it again

Suggest with titles like this you may want to shorten it.
=Seaquest
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday March 29 04:22:30 2009
Re: Any reports on 12 rounds?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Ashley Scott finally I've been waiting for awhile.

Saw the movie on Friday. She's shown bound with zip ties and gagged with duct tape a few times throughout the film.

1st - in the back of a van.
2nd - on a bed.
3rd - in the back of a firetruck.
asdf
Sunday March 29 05:59:28 2009
Re: Smallville
Jute wrote:
> Hadji wrote:
> > > Hadji wrote:
> > Thanks for the information. I researched her
> character on
> > the "Smallville" show on the Internet, and
> > found some pictures of her. She was wearing the
> > magician's assistant ensemble, the leotard and
> fishnet stockings.
> Well, I know this is going to make Zatanna fans angry,
> but I always thought that both her Power and her costume
> were pretty stupid. The Power particularly , but the
> costume was also pretty lame, especially when they had
> her wearing the top hat with it. I know fishnet stockings
> do it for some people. To me they just don't, at all. So
> I didn't mind the missed opportunity all that much.

I must disagree vehemently with you. I think that the costume that the Zatanna character wore on "Smallville" was sexy and very appropriate considering the fact that her power is derived from magic, and that she drew inspiration for her crimefighting career from her father, who was a magician.
Her costume is basically a magician's assistant's costume, or a feminized version of a magician's costume. The costume from the "Smallville" episode, the tuxedo, leotard, and fishnet stockings ensemble, was one of the outfits Zatanna wore in DC Comics; I think it was the first costume she wore. She then changed it to a skintight jumpsuit with a high collar, and then to a sexier outfit with flaring sleeves. I think she reverted back to the first outfit in recent years; I recall seeing her bound and gagged in that outfit in a recent "Superman" comic book.
What is so stupid about her power? Where people like us are concerned, it is the perfect power for a superheroine to have, one that is projected through the mouth, and is thus neutralized by gagging the heroine.
Hadji
Sunday March 29 06:10:25 2009
Re: Lip Touching
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Lynda Carter rubbed her mouth with her fingers
> after
> > her very tight cleave-gag was removed in the
> "Hot
> > Wheels" episode.
> Patty Manterola grabbed her mouth after ripping off her
> own tape gag in "Angeles."

This means that these gags were realistic, were applied securely, and effectively silenced the actresses. I don't think that the actress' rubbing their lips and mouths after removal of their gags was scripted. They had REALLY been gagged, had genuinely experienced discomfort while gagged, and rubbing their lips and mouths was the natural reaction after their gags were removed.
Hadji
Sunday March 29 06:26:24 2009
Re: Smallville
Captureher wrote:
> Hadji wrote:
> > ...They are bona fide
> > imbeciles. They tantalize us by dressing the
> television
> > characters in sexy outfits, and not having them
> > restrained in the least.... The idiots who write for
> > "Smallville" should, perhaps, modify their
> > scripts so that they conform more to the reality of
> the DC Comics universe.
> I believe this isn't happening because of two reasons:
> - The writers are just running thru these characters in
> place of an actual interesting plot;
> -The show is mainly targeted to middle America tweens,
> they love to look pretty but are clueless and/or
> frightened of actual eroticism or anything resembling it.
> If it wasn't for the hotties who would still be watching this show?

Thank you for your opinions, Captureher. Your explanations sound plausible, particularly the one about the demographics of the target audience.
I just remembered another television show in which Zatanna appeared; it was on an episode of the "Batman" animated series. She didn't wear a gaudy superhero costume, but instead wore short black hot pants throughout the episode; I don't recall whether she used her power. To my chagrin, there was not the least bit of restraint for her. This is another example of scriptwriters tantalizing viewers with a sexy female character, but not having her bound and gagged.
Hadji
Sunday March 29 08:11:49 2009
Re: Smallville

> What do you mean exactly?

It's VERY kinky. The lead character is a hispanic lesbian who has admitted to being into kinky stuff, and one of the other lead characters is basically a wealthy dominatrix. There hasn't been much recently aside from a few gagged males, but there was a scene where a rival supervillainess gets kidnapped, bound, and tape gagged by the team. While she is stuggling and mmmphing, the lead character talks about how the poor gal's situation reminds her of incedents of bondage lovemaking.

Trust me, this is one of those books like the recent Catwoman series that you can expect to pay off frequently.
Danny
Sunday March 29 09:20:08 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> We'll have two scenes coming to video on April 7. I think
> "Into the Blue: The Reef" is also out that day,
> with confirmed black tape-gag scene for the Vanderhoot
> actress.

I'm really looking forward to watching "Into the Blue: The Reef". The first "Into the Blue" movie was a major disappointment. I know Jessica Alba got tape gagged, but the bondage was non-existent. As far as I'm concerned, there was nothing of interest in the first movie. The pictures I have seen for the second edition look great. Vanderhoot gets tied up in "The Reef" version.
Sunday March 29 10:18:31 2009
Re: Smallville
Hadji wrote:

> of the outfits Zatanna wore in DC Comics; I think it was
> the first costume she wore. She then changed it to a
> skintight jumpsuit with a high collar, and then to a
> sexier outfit with flaring sleeves.

I always loved her later costume which did not last long enough. Of course I am a sucker for tight clothes on a damsel, a long pony tail, and a gag!
I do understand the appeal of the other attire as well though! Zatanna needs her own show!
http://trifecta3.net/comics/floods/Zatanna/J_L_of_A_161-17a.jpg
http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/comics101/images/2005/feb2/zatannajoin.jpg
http://www.bestcomics1.com/1-4-05/zatanna.jpg
detroitdave
Sunday March 29 10:48:54 2009
Re: Smallville
Let's not forget this classic scene!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k309/prgram/archv_other2/J_L_of_A_161-17.jpg
Danny
Sunday March 29 11:05:38 2009
Re: Lip Touching
Hadji wrote:

> This means that these gags were realistic, were applied
> securely, and effectively silenced the actresses.


Or it could have meant the actresses were acting.

Sunday March 29 12:33:44 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> The first "Into the Blue"
> movie was a major disappointment. I know Jessica Alba got
> tape gagged,

That worked good enough for me.
http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/35/53/58/18658093.jpg
Sunday March 29 12:38:50 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > The first "Into the Blue"
> > movie was a major disappointment. I know Jessica
> Alba got
> > tape gagged,
> That worked good enough for me.

Trailer out for Into the Blue 2. No tie-up shots in the clip.


http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi326501145/
Sunday March 29 14:11:27 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > The first "Into the Blue"
> > movie was a major disappointment. I know Jessica
> Alba got
> > tape gagged,
> That worked good enough for me.

It wasn't enough for me... she should have been tape gagged the entire movie... even then it still would have been a bad movie... just one that's more tolerable...
Moraxian
http://www.moraxian.us
Sunday March 29 14:59:36 2009
Re: Any reports on 12 rounds?
asdf wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > Ashley Scott finally I've been waiting for awhile.
> Saw the movie on Friday. She's shown bound with zip ties
> and gagged with duct tape a few times throughout the
> film.
> 1st - in the back of a van.
> 2nd - on a bed.
> 3rd - in the back of a firetruck.

True -- twice behind and once in front. But 99% of this movie shows the hero's actions to try to save her -- very little footage of the DID.
hangdogit
Sunday March 29 15:00:28 2009
Vanished: Aftermath Episode Caps
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find caps from this scene? There are several good close ups but few high quality caps. It is much like the scene with Renee Goldsberry in One Life to Live in the sense that several existing caps aren't floating around. If anyone can please post large pictures of either of these scenes it would be very much appreciated.
Banky Edwards
Sunday March 29 16:44:29 2009
ID for 3 scenes
Can someone identify one of the following scenes.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8471/unknown3.png
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2007/unknownaustralia.png
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/935/unknownlatin.png
Avi
Sunday March 29 17:38:03 2009
Re: Smallville
Hadji wrote:

> I must disagree vehemently with you. I think that the
> costume that the Zatanna character wore on
> "Smallville" was sexy and very appropriate

> Her costume is basically a magician's assistant's
> costume, or a feminized version of a magician's costume.

> What is so stupid about her power? Where people like us
> are concerned, it is the perfect power for a superheroine to have, one that is projected through the mouth, and is thus neutralized by gagging the heroine.
Hey, it's cool that people like her. Just doesn't work for me. I did like an outfit Alan Davis had her in in "A Nail" or "Another Nail" or something like that, but then I like almost anything Davis does. The power to me is dumb because I know magicians aren't magical, they're just smooth and tricky. And saying words backwards can be done by anyone without doing anything, except maybe angering religious groups if it's on a metal record. Anyway, sorry for dissing your girl Z fans - didn't mean to be hatin'! Zatanna Rules! Especially when she means "No gag!" and it comes out "Gag on!" Thank you, I'm in the back lounge all week!

Jute
Sunday March 29 17:55:50 2009
Re: Smallville

> And saying words backwards can be done by anyone without
> doing anything, except maybe angering religious groups
> if it's on a metal record.

Well in her defense, they sorta did away with the gag weakness in the post COIE era. She can now perform spells by writing symbols and such. For example, she was recently shot through the throat by the Joker, and was able to survive by writing scrawling out a healing spell sign with her own blood.

Danny
Sunday March 29 18:09:37 2009
Babysitter Wanted
Just caught this movie with a scene with Sarah Thompson. About 50 minutes in, Thompson's character is captured (won't give any details...too weird anyway) and is later shown with her hands and feet bound, with a somewhat loose OTM gag. She is sitting on the floor and also has a noose around her neck.

Goes on for about 15 minutes, but the scene is very dark and cuts a lot to a man speaking with her who is, ahem, cutting up some other woman.
Goten
Sunday March 29 18:17:45 2009
Re: ID for 3 scenes
Avi wrote:

> Can someone identify one of the following scenes.

Middle cap looks like Allison Hossack from "Cobra" but not sure.

Sunday March 29 19:46:58 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> rex wrote:
> > > Um..not to be dumb...but which one is Peyton?
> Neither
> > looks all that much like the girl from ATWT a few
> years
> > ago.
> Peyton List is on the right, the one with the really well
> applied gag. Not sure you're thinking of the same actress
> because she does look pretty much the same as 2004 when
> she was gagged on ATWT. That was the scene pre-empted in
> most of the country due to the Reagan funeral coverage.
> The damsel on the left does seem to have her gag change
> from sloppy to neat.

I just watched the video clip of the scene from "Shuttle", and I must say that the villain who gagged the two damsels is dumb, Dumb, DUMB! It was egregiously stupid of him to gag the two damsels without binding their hands, even though it was within his capacity to do so; he could've easily wound the tape around their wrists after he finished gagging them. Their mouths were gagged, but their hands were free, and they had a weapon within easy reach.
The brunette passively let herself be gagged, but it was she who grabbed the instrument and began bludgeoning her captor.
Furthermore, it was relatively pointless to gag the damsels inside the shuttle, because there was no one within earshot. I'm glad they were gagged so thoroughly, but I wish the idiot villain had exercised some common sense and bound the damsels' hands; they might've been bound and gagged for a longer period of time.
Hadji
Sunday March 29 21:29:38 2009
Re: Vanished: Aftermath Episode Caps
Banky Edwards wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find caps
> from this scene? There are several good close ups but few
> high quality caps. It is much like the scene with Renee
> Goldsberry in One Life to Live in the sense that several
> existing caps aren't floating around. If anyone can
> please post large pictures of either of these scenes it
> would be very much appreciated.

I've made a few caps of the Vanished scene from my reference clip and posted them over on the Video Page.

My reference clip for the OLtL scene is in a format that would require some shelling out of $$$ before I could cap it effectively, and I don't really feel like doing that at the moment. (I could make some caps from my web clip if you like, though they wouldn't look quite as good.) Here's the one reference cap I did make way back when.
http://bondageparade.com/cap/OneLifeToLive-Goldsberry.jpg
Raffish
Sunday March 29 21:56:49 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
Hadji wrote:

> I just watched the video clip of the scene from
> "Shuttle", and I must say that the villain who
> gagged the two damsels is dumb, Dumb, DUMB! It was
> egregiously stupid of him to gag the two damsels without
> binding their hands,

I think the poster who watched the movie said the damsels were secured in the seats but Peyton List worked herself free, allowing the attack scene.

> The brunette passively let herself be gagged

That's what makes her gagging better, IMO. The first female was struggling, which created a sloppy gag. Peyton just sat there and let herself be perfectly gagged.

I would have preferred the scene was longer, but no complaints on this one from me.
Sunday March 29 22:43:19 2009
Re: Shuttle scene
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Hadji wrote:
> > I just watched the video clip of the scene from
> > "Shuttle", and I must say that the villain
> who
> > gagged the two damsels is dumb, Dumb, DUMB! It was
> > egregiously stupid of him to gag the two damsels
> without
> > binding their hands,
> I think the poster who watched the movie said the damsels
> were secured in the seats but Peyton List worked herself
> free, allowing the attack scene.
> > The brunette passively let herself be gagged
> That's what makes her gagging better, IMO. The first
> female was struggling, which created a sloppy gag. Peyton
> just sat there and let herself be perfectly gagged.
> I would have preferred the scene was longer, but no
> complaints on this one from me.

Thank you for the information; it seemed to me that the ladies weren't restrained in any way. The villain still could've secured their wrists further, as a precaution. He should've checked the restraints securing them to the seats. When one has bound and gagged female captives, one should check their restraints and gags from time to time to make sure they are secure. He also should've kept the weapon out of their reach.
Hadji

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