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Tuesday December 22 00:42:24 2009
CSI: Miami
Nice red knotted cleave gag scene at the end of tonight's episode of CSI: Miami.

Really bad continuity glitch, as the damsel starts out with her hands tied in front of her, then somehow behind her, and then in front of her again, as H helps her out of a tub of ice. Only then does she remove her own gag.

Amazing.

But pretty girl...nice gag.
Tuesday December 22 02:14:14 2009
Re: CSI: Miami
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Nice red knotted cleave gag scene at the end of tonight's
> episode of CSI: Miami.
>nice gag.

That one was a repeat from last season.

Tuesday December 22 02:18:48 2009
Re: Favorite music videos with bondage?

One of the old original ones was "Street of Dreams" by Rainbow. That had the parody of the Walter Mitty scene. You can find that video on the you tube thing.

Grainy screenshot below.

http://brianspage.com/sod1.jpg
Brian R
Tuesday December 22 02:59:24 2009
Music video bondage
I don't know if this has been mentioned but Anahi the blonde lead of RBD and Rebelde fame has a current music video with many shots of her in a straitjacket. In all shots including the straitjacket ones she is wearing black underwear. The video is "Mi Delirio"and I saw it on Mun2.
EJ
Tuesday December 22 07:56:01 2009
Re: heartbeat

> Best guess is some time in January, after all the festive
> stuff and "reality" junk is out of the way.
> The coming series will be the last.

ah well something to look forward to in the new year. Thanks mate
az
Tuesday December 22 08:22:52 2009
Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
First off, I think we can all agree that among our community, there's no such thing as an unnecessary gag scene :) But just for fun, let's think of scenes where the gag really served no real purpose.

-Raiders of the Lost Ark (Karen Allen). She was tied up in a tent in the center of the Nazi encampment. The desert was "3 weeks in every direction." It hardly seemed necessary to have her gagged. Who was she going to scream to? There was no one around to help her. The only reasons I can think of for the gag would be A) Perhaps the Nazi leaders didn't want the foot soldiers outside to know they were keeping a captive female inside. B) The knew how crafty she could be, and didn't want to risk her flirting her way free (which almost wound up working anyway).
Tracks
Tuesday December 22 10:17:02 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
Tracks wrote:

> -Raiders of the Lost Ark (Karen Allen).
> The only reasons I can think of for the gag would be A)
> Perhaps the Nazi leaders didn't want the foot soldiers
> outside to know they were keeping a captive female
> inside. B) The knew how crafty she could be, and didn't
> want to risk her flirting her way free (which almost wound up working anyway).

or C) for the same reason they gagged her in "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull." They just wanted to shut her the hell up!
John Quincannon
Tuesday December 22 11:06:59 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
John Quincannon wrote:

> > > outside to know they were keeping a captive female
> > inside.

Just was going through some old VHS tapes and saw a perfect one. In "She Spies," Natashia Williams is KO'd by a sleeper hold by the thug. She's then left there cleave-gagged but not bound in any way.
Tuesday December 22 11:15:46 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
Tracks wrote:

> First off, I think we can all agree that among our
> community, there's no such thing as an unnecessary gag
> scene :) But just for fun, let's think of scenes where
> the gag really served no real purpose.
There was a scene on "Sky King" where Penny was bound and gagged in the back of a car, in the middle of the desert. Seemed kind of mean, as well as pointless, but I liked it anyway.

Jack
Tuesday December 22 11:18:59 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
The Nazi group was supposedly a legitimate German academic expedition to Egypt at a time when the British ran that country. The people digging to the well of souls were local Egyptian day laborers.

Had the laborers found out that the Germans were keeping an American captive then the British authorities might have become involved, or word gotten back to Jones.

Tom Quin
Tuesday December 22 13:08:23 2009
Re: CSI: Miami
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> That one was a repeat from last season.

I knew it was a rerun, but it's not in the database.
Tuesday December 22 14:23:22 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
Tom Quin wrote:

> Had the laborers found out that the Germans were keeping
> an American captive then the British authorities might
> have become involved, or word gotten back to Jones.

All of which is perfectly true... but Marion Ravenwood was *still* a smart-mouth. ;-)
http://www.bondageparade.com/cap/RaidersOfTheLostArk.jpg
Van
vvvan@earthlink.net
http://www.vansfiction.net
Tuesday December 22 16:10:26 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> In "She Spies," Natashia Williams
> is KO'd by a sleeper hold by the thug. She's then left
> there cleave-gagged but not bound in any way.

Are you sure her wrists weren't bound in front of her in that scene? Which is still pointless, sure, and she was unconscious. But I think her wrists were bound, and that's only scene I know of with her, the one that's on (or at least near) a beach.

There certainly have been a ton of scenes with unnecessary gags, and I try to appreciate them all whenever a scene that clearly SHOULD have had a gag does not. Thankfully, I believe it balances out to our benefit.
Miss Cleo
Tuesday December 22 16:32:46 2009
Re: Random Tape gag thought
Moraxian wrote:

> A non-damaging wrap-around can be done pretty easily
> (I've done it a number of times for my sites). Wrapping
> gauze bandage tightly around the lady's head and then
> taping over the gauze makes for an effective looking
> wrap-around tape gag without it causing distress to the lady's face/hair/etc.

Sorry for extending this talk, but I have to ask some questions about this. Is this duct-tape-over-gauze actually effective, or just looks like it? Would it properly prevent an actress from talking?

Also, I'm curious about a very rare instance of a gag, the tape-over-cleave-gag. The only time I saw this on mainstream TV was on "Witchblade" (ep. "Nailed"). I've also seen ball-gags secured with multiple strips of duct tape. Which are the pros and cons of both of these gags?
Query Given Person
Tuesday December 22 16:49:32 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Just was going through some old VHS tapes and saw a
> perfect one. In "She Spies," Natashia Williams
> is KO'd by a sleeper hold by the thug. She's then left
> there cleave-gagged but not bound in any way.

I think she was bound as well as gagged; the thug who incapacitated her left her bound and gagged on a beach, if my recollections serves me correctly.
Hadji
Tuesday December 22 19:30:47 2009
The Unit alert
While watching on of the WWE shows (Smackdown I think) I saw a preview for 2 back-to-back episodes of The Unit tomorrow (Wednesday, Dec. 23) on whatever local channel you get Smackdown in your area (it's always on some local independent channel). The episodes start at 7 pm Central time & in one of them there is a damsel blindfolded with duct tape & tape gagged. No idea which episode it's in.
JP
japfeif@aol.com
Tuesday December 22 20:03:04 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
Any scene involving protesters with tape over their mouths as some kind of symbolic gesture. It's like they think no one will take their protests seriously, but if they put tape over their mouths, then people will really know they mean business.

At one time, the gag was meant to convey the denial of free speech but nowadays you can't have a protest for anything without a roll of duct tape handy.



MadFish
Tuesday December 22 21:26:01 2009
Re: R.I.P. Brittany Murphy
Raffish wrote:

> Farewell...
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/12/actress-brit
> tany-murphy-dead-at-32-.html

What movie was this from??? (I admit I know little about Ms. Murphy, but what a shock.)
John
Tuesday December 22 21:27:45 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
Van wrote:

> Marion Ravenwood
> was *still* a smart-mouth. ;-)

Incidentally I read in a bio of Spielberg that Karen Allen was very adverse to the bondage scenes and kept freaking out when left tied up for too long. Poor thing...


John
Tuesday December 22 21:42:52 2009
Re: Really Sticky Duct Tape
This post was deleted.

Poster: John
Reason: I said to move on.
The Moderator
Tuesday December 22 21:59:41 2009
Re: R.I.P. Brittany Murphy

> > tany-murphy-dead-at-32-.html
> What movie was this from??? (I admit I know little about Ms. Murphy, but what a shock.)

Its from a horror movie called Cherry Falls
Steve W
underduressnet@hotmail.com
http://www.knotsotight.com
Tuesday December 22 23:05:46 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
The "Journey to the End of the Knight" episode of the new Knight Rider series had a really gratuitous gag scene for the beautiful Deanna Russo. For some reason the bad guys felt the need to bind and gag her even though they were in the middle of the desert AND she was unconscious to boot. By contrast, the more dangerous Michael Knight merely had one wrist cuffed to KITT!
Tuesday December 22 23:47:02 2009
Re: Most unnecessary gag in a scene?
Tracks wrote:

> First off, I think we can all agree that among our
> community, there's no such thing as an unnecessary gag
> scene :) But just for fun, let's think of scenes where
> the gag really served no real purpose.

In Wrong Turn, the mutated hillbillies kidnap Eliza Dushku, lash her to a bed, and gag her with some leather strap thingy...but their house is in the middle of the freaking WOODS, and there's no one around for miles who could potentially hear herscreams and cries for help (which are clearly intelligable even through the gag). Not that I'm *complaining*, of course, but it was totally gratuitous and unnecesary to attempt muffling her speech.
http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2003_Wrong_Turn/Thumb/003WTN_Eliza_Dushku_054.jpg
Monterey Jack
monty39@verizon.net

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