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Wednesday December 09 00:25:09 2009
Re: scene ID
rex wrote:

> hew I was wondering, I recall an old OLD scene from (I
> believe) the ancient soap Search For Tomorrow involving a
> woman tied & gagged wearing a bridal gown. There are
> only a few entries in the Database for this soap (maybe
> there were very few bondage scenes ON this soap!) and
> none mention a woman in a bridal gown. I'm wanting to
> know who the actress was (or her character), if I am
> thinking of the correct show.
> Does this ring any bells with anyone, or am I thinking of
> a totally wrong soap opera? Thanks!

I'm not certain this is the same scene you are thinking of but I immediately thought of the scene on "Loving" with Nicole Beck bound and gagged in her wedding dress. A guy dressed as a waiter took her and had her in a hotel room and the boyfriend breaks in to rescue her. Nice tight thin cleave gag for Nicole and high on my list of favorite soap scenes.

David Knight
http://www.DavidKnightBondage.com
Wednesday December 09 01:04:35 2009
Re: scene ID
> I'm not certain this is the same scene you are thinking
> of but I immediately thought of the scene on
> "Loving" with Nicole Beck bound and gagged in
> her wedding dress. A guy dressed as a waiter took her
> and had her in a hotel room and the boyfriend breaks in
> to rescue her. Nice tight thin cleave gag for Nicole and high on my list of favorite soap scenes.

It could possibly also be a scene from "The Young & The Restless" with Heather Tom - Heather (as Victoria) is getting ready to marry Ryan O'Neil (Scott Reeves), but Tricia (Sabryn Genet), Ryan's ex-wife, who was crazy, kidnapped Victoria and held her, bound & gagged in her wedding dress. Tricia had planned to impersonate Vicki and marry Ryan herself, but Ryan found them in time. Maybe the scene the OP is looking for, maybe not.
Robert Nielsen
robertwnielsen@live.com
Wednesday December 09 01:12:19 2009
Re: scene ID
Robert Nielsen wrote:


> It could possibly also be a scene from "The Young
> & The Restless" with Heather Tom - Heather (as
> Victoria) is getting ready to marry Ryan McNeil (Scott
> Reeves),

My mistake - that should have been Ryan McNeil, not O'Neil!!
Robert Nielsen
robertwnielsen@live.com
Wednesday December 09 02:31:12 2009
Bondage Channel
Im tired of so many people bitching and complaining about scenes that should be different and done the way we want them done. Bad ties, cheap gags, horrible scripts, so what!! We're lucky to see any of our favorite girls bound and gagged in any situation. Who gives a rip about the gag not being tight enough. Yeah, I agree, but it's better than nothing. That's the thrill of this whole thing anyways. The unexpected. Something we always look forward too each week. New possibilities for new shows etc...... Maybe one day we will have what we have always wanted to have, our own channel!!! The Bondage Channel!!! Right inbetween The Food network and ESPN!!! Why not?? You never know!!! And then, we can have it OUR WAY!!! Stay hungry my friends
Big J
Wednesday December 09 03:19:26 2009
Re: Old Christine
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> It is a female guest star that was chair-tied for
> Wednesday's episode, not JLD. No gag in the promo.

That would be the lovely Amy Sedaris of Strangers with Candy fame. She is a hottie and I'd take her over Julia any day. So unlike the Charlies Angels movie and TV show, this time they picked the prettier one. And more talented. JMO.
George Lucas
Wednesday December 09 10:22:26 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Big J wrote:

>And then, we can have it OUR WAY!!! Stay hungry my friends

Alas, my way is for the bondage to be realistic and effective. There is no reason for it not to be. If you remember scenes like those in Ulee's Gold, then you know bondage can be effective on screen. There's no need for the bondage to be loose at all...
Moraxian
http://www.moraxiansgalleries.com
Wednesday December 09 11:28:31 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Moraxian wrote:


> Alas, my way is for the bondage to be realistic and
> effective. There is no reason for it not to be.

Exactly, if you are going to do something do it right !!!!

If the DID is supposed to be a victim of a crime, make it look that way, instead of somebody struggling mightily to hold a gag in or keep the ropes from falling off.

Just in case some here are unfamiliar with Moraxian's work, he is very well respected as a rigger who knows how to put damsels in very effective, but completely plausible and believable bondage. The kind you look at and say, yup that could happen to any woman in her normal, everyday life.




Jacot
Wednesday December 09 13:19:56 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Moraxian wrote:

> Alas, my way is for the bondage to be realistic and
> effective. There is no reason for it not to be.

But, Moraxian, there IS a reason. It's the same reason we (at least I) don't necessarily want or expect to see the young actresses in "Urinetown" strapped so tightly to a chair that the bondage is "realistic."

I realize not everyone has an appreciation for the light, "fun" bondage look, but some of us do. A soap opera is a big, goofy fantasy. Rarely is anything on a soap "realistic." I hardly expect the producers to be tying up their actresses in stringent bondage.

Heck, part of the reason we get these scenes in the first place is because they are sort of casual. No one wants to turn All My Children into Criminal Minds.

Again, Moraxian, I mean all due respect for your excellent work. I'm not saying stringent bondage isn't sexy: I find it very sexy. And as a professional, I'm sure you get exasperated at the very lame ways these TV producers tie up their actresses.

I just feel it's fair to give a little more latitude to these "silly" mainstream bondage scenes, because I know a healthy segment of us do find them very appealing.
Miss Cleo
Wednesday December 09 13:52:02 2009
Re: Best Scenes
Michele Greene in Simon&Simon ranks up there. Cute damsel, nice outfit, thick cleave, tightly-bound wrists, a bit of drool, bonus chloro scene...

Check it out at the Video Page
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/jJsKHFYgBQs/1.jpg
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/jJsKHFYgBQs/2.jpg
Wednesday December 09 14:23:48 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Moraxian wrote:

> Big J wrote:
> >And then, we can have it OUR WAY!!! Stay hungry my
There's no need for
> the bondage to be loose at all...

I think the attraction with mainstream scenes is the physical attractiveness of the actresses.
Anyone can hire a local skank for 50 bucks and put her in stringent bondage

Triplex
Wednesday December 09 14:43:32 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Triplex wrote:

Moraxian wrote:
Big J wrote:
loose at all...
I think the attraction with mainstream scenes is the
physical attractiveness of the actresses.
Anyone can hire a local skank for 50 bucks and put her in
stringent bondage

All women in bondage are an attraction. But mainstream scenes are, at least in theory, depictions of real-life situations, albeit in a "fantastic" setting. There are many reasons why they have an added attractiveness. For me, for example, it is partially the "fame" surrounding the actress who is bound and gagged in the scene. For many, that may not matter at all. Point being, physical attractiveness is important, but not everything.
doug
Wednesday December 09 14:45:03 2009
Did anything happened with Kendall on AMC Today?
I saw the bound and gagged scene with Kendall on Monday. It was a very nice scene so far. Nothing happened yesterday. Did anything happened today? Thanks.

J. Bauer
J. Bauer
Wednesday December 09 15:14:11 2009
London Beauty and the Beast Show
Attached article about a British production of Beauty and the Beast is interesting. Actress is named Laura Sanchez.
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/leisure/4784167.Beauty_and_the_Beast__Creation_Theatre_Company__Mirror_Tent__BMW_Plant__Cowley/
Wednesday December 09 15:58:05 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Miss Cleo wrote:

> Moraxian wrote:
> > Alas, my way is for the bondage to be realistic and
> > effective. There is no reason for it not to be.
> But, Moraxian, there IS a reason. It's the same reason we
> (at least I) don't necessarily want or expect to see the
> young actresses in "Urinetown" strapped so
> tightly to a chair that the bondage is
> "realistic."
> I realize not everyone has an appreciation for the light,
> "fun" bondage look, but some of us do. A soap
> opera is a big, goofy fantasy. Rarely is anything on a
> soap "realistic." I hardly expect the producers
> to be tying up their actresses in stringent bondage.

Well, the reason for a loose tie in Urinetown is because Urinetown is a stage play and they can't spend 30 minutes tying the lady up stringently, or however they want, because there's only so much time in the performance. Plus Urinetown is a musical-comedy, so it's ok if it is played for fun.

As far as the soaps go, they're supposed to be real-life dramas, admittedly with some strange twists. Since there are not the time limits that there are during a stage play, they do have time to do it right and should.
Moraxian
http://www.moraxiansgalleries.com
Wednesday December 09 17:31:58 2009
Re: One Life to Live & General Hospital possibilities
It doesn't look like the hostage situation on One Life to Live is going to lead to anything. New preview and photo stills indicate Blair is just going to be held at gunpoint during a standoff on a bridge.

On GH, spoilers concerning Carly are still vague. A new one says "Carly is in jeopardy," and that Franco ties her up, "literally." I think James Franco is only on till the end of December.
Dextor
Wednesday December 09 17:56:37 2009
Re: Bondage Channel
Moraxian wrote:

> As far as the soaps go, they're supposed to be real-life
> dramas, admittedly with some strange twists. Since there
> are not the time limits that there are during a stage
> play, they do have time to do it right and should.

Actually, because of the mountains of material soaps shoot and the speed at which the shoot it, trying their damndest to limit themselves to one-take, I can understand why the bondage is occasionally lacking. Not necessarily an excuse - if a director wants to get it right, he can get it right. And there have been enough good scenes in the past to prove it can be done right.

Still, tt reminds me of a snippet from the DVD commentary for the Doctor Who story, "The Brain of Morbius." There's a scene where we see the Doctor tied up, and the producer comments: "We never used to tie people up very convincingly. I remember in 'Revenge of the Cybermmen,' you (Tom Baker) and Sarah were back-to-back with a little bit of parcel string - a 5-year old could have undone it. But that was-again- you had to be able to get it off in real-time; it's to do with having to do it for real in the studio. It took time to tie someone up convincingly."
Dextor
Wednesday December 09 18:58:15 2009
soaps
with as the world turn is going off the air it comes to mind that all of your scenes are from 1980 tothe current period.
does anyone know of full treatment scenes from the 50's 60's or 70's
given that they are soaps there must be a mountain full of great scenes during that period
Wednesday December 09 20:46:27 2009
Re: Bondage Channel

This is rapidly becoming non-productive. Let's move on to something else.

The Moderator
Wednesday December 09 20:54:36 2009
Ryan's Hope
airs at 5am est on Soapnet. Thanks to poster yesterday, I got the gal in the second half hour as her gag was removed. She was still blindfolded and had her hands retied in front. Believe still continuing.
civil
Wednesday December 09 20:56:20 2009
Old Christine on CBS
tie scene occurs in the last 10 minutes
Wednesday December 09 21:17:44 2009
The New Adventures of Old Christine
Amy Sedaris is tied up in tonight's episode. No gag. The scene happens after she comes to talk to "Christine" (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) at the gym.

She really should have been gagged at the beginning of the scene. There was dialogue between her and "Christine", but not right away. At first, "Christine" and her friend (Wanda Sykes) were talking about the situation and she could have been gagged during that time. Then they could have removed the gag in order for her to talk.
Tapemaster

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