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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Tuesday December 08 00:51:27 2009 Re: AMC |
| Goten wrote: > Moriarty wrote: > > Did we ever get this figured out? > Scene is currently going on. One scene so far, many close > ups. when exactly was she kidnapped? Did today's scene start with her already tied up? I missed it but plan on catching the SoapNet repeats. Was anything shown yesterday or last week of her actually GETTING grabbed? |
| Tuesday December 08 01:43:40 2009 Re: Old Christine |
| Tie wrote: > saw a quick promo for the show "old Christine" > coming Wednesday. the promo showed a woman chair tied > hidden away in a room or maybe a closet gagged? |
| Tuesday December 08 01:50:11 2009 Re: Old Christine |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: >> > saw a quick promo for the show "old > Christine" When Christine finds out that Ritchie has been bullying other kids, she decides to set a good example and apologize to the woman she used to terrorize at school. Man, a B&G scene for Julia Louis Dreyfus would be a nice score. |
| Tuesday December 08 01:59:42 2009 Re: AMC |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > > when exactly was she kidnapped? She was chloroformed at some point, but it must have been before Nov. 30. She was not shown in any episode last week. |
| Tuesday December 08 02:51:19 2009 Re: AMC |
| > Miss Cleo wrote: > > I am a little disappointed in how she's just > pinching the > > gag with her lips, not letting it between her teeth Cause it might just fall out if she opens her mouth. A bondage scene for bored housewives and soccer moms - not too convincing and only slightly better than nothing. |
| Tuesday December 08 03:04:12 2009 Re: Las Vegas -- Vanessa Marcil scene |
| Tapemaster wrote: > The database entry for this scene only mentions > 1 episode, when actually it happened over 3 episodes > (although there is now a footnote at the bottom of the > database entry mentioning the other 2 episodes). Thanks Tapemaster for pointing out there are 3 episodes involved in this scene. And thanks to Sam for the high res posts on video page. The current entry is rather lavish in it's praise of this scene but somehow failed to mention the additional 2 episodes. I think we all can tell who did the entry: "Despite the crepuscular conditions, visibility is more than adequate, and Ms. Marcil's gag, the strip of duct tape, is perfectly visible." |
| Tuesday December 08 05:29:56 2009 Re: Las Vegas -- Vanessa Marcil scene |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Tapemaster wrote: > > The database entry for this scene only mentions > > 1 episode, when actually it happened over 3 episodes > > (although there is now a footnote at the bottom of the > > database entry mentioning the other 2 episodes). > Thanks Tapemaster for pointing out there are 3 episodes > involved in this scene. And thanks to Sam for the high > res posts on video page. The current entry is rather > lavish in it's praise of this scene but somehow failed > to mention the additional 2 episodes. > I think we all can tell who did the entry: "Despite > the crepuscular conditions, visibility is more than > adequate, and Ms. Marcil's gag, the strip of duct tape, > is perfectly visible." The reason I didn't mention the preceding and subsequent episodes is that I composed that Entry for THAT SPECIFIC EPISODE. Perhaps I should've mentioned them, and I apologize for my oversight. I suppose could've easily added a line that mentioned that Ms. Marcil's bondage began in the preceding episode, and continued into the next episode. Not many bondage scenes are extended over two episodes, and almost none are extended over three; can anyone think of any other instances of an actress being bound and gagged, in the same circumstances, during at least two episodes of a television show? |
| Hadji |
| Tuesday December 08 06:03:52 2009 Ryan's Hope - 1980s alert. |
| The cable channel Soapnet is currently showing episodes of the soap opera "Ryan's Hope" from the 1980s between 5 and 6 a.m. Eastern time. They're up to late March of the year 1980. This morning, the character Siobhan (a pretty long-haired redhead played by actress Sarah Felder) was kidnapped. Mobsters led her into a hotel room hands tied behind, blindfolded with a blue cloth, and tightly cleave-gagged. They removed the gag so she could talk on the phone but replaced it at the end of the episode. These episodes do not re-air, but this storyline looks like it will continue. This is a good chance for someone to snag a scene that's not in any of the databases. |
| J.M.M. |
| Tuesday December 08 08:29:57 2009 Re: Las Vegas -- Vanessa Marcil scene |
| Hadji wrote: > Not many bondage scenes are extended over two episodes, > and almost none are extended over three; can anyone think > of any other instances of an actress being bound and > gagged, in the same circumstances, during at least two episodes of a television show? Off the top of my head... Dozens of daytime soap opera storylines that are too numerous to mention. Marcia Cross in Melrose Place, don't remember the episode titles. Elisha Cuthbert in the first season of 24. Spellbinder had two untitled back to back episodes. Water Rats "Final Chapter" and "Silent Running" A few episodes of the Batman show from the 60's. Twin Peaks episodes "Laura's Secret Diary" and " Demons" |
| Anubis |
| http://www.anuvids.com |
| Tuesday December 08 08:57:21 2009 Re: AMC |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > A bondage scene for bored housewives and soccer moms - > not too convincing and only slightly better than nothing. Yeah, the bondage was lame, but there was some pretty nice gag talk, and it was fun to watch her gag talking while sitting there untied but compliantly leaving her gag on. I hope there's more coming, but I kind of doubt it. |
| Tuesday December 08 11:33:10 2009 Re: Las Vegas -- Vanessa Marcil scene |
| Hadji wrote: > The reason I didn't mention the preceding and subsequent > episodes is that I composed that Entry for THAT SPECIFIC > EPISODE. Perhaps I should've mentioned them. No, you're fine. That entry was flagged for the Editor to check when the other eps air. Want you to keep them specific for the Alerts Page If you have anything more on this? Post it over on Database Corrections |
| Jay L |
| Tuesday December 08 12:44:36 2009 scene ID |
| hew I was wondering, I recall an old OLD scene from (I believe) the ancient soap Search For Tomorrow involving a woman tied & gagged wearing a bridal gown. There are only a few entries in the Database for this soap (maybe there were very few bondage scenes ON this soap!) and none mention a woman in a bridal gown. I'm wanting to know who the actress was (or her character), if I am thinking of the correct show. Does this ring any bells with anyone, or am I thinking of a totally wrong soap opera? Thanks! |
| rex |
| Tuesday December 08 12:52:30 2009 Re: AMC |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Yeah, the bondage was lame, but there was some pretty > nice gag talk, I tend to agree. Maybe we had too many expectations about this scene. But i saw (and i posted myself) much worse scenes. I put the scene in the video page. |
| George Annis |
| Tuesday December 08 13:12:01 2009 ATWT Cancelled |
| CBS made it official today and announced the cancellation of "As The World Turns" after 54 years of being on the air. The last episode will air around September 2010. Probably plenty of recollection over DiD scenes for the next few days. Even though I have personal favorites that involeved Martha Byrne and Maura West I do remember one not in the database that involved Eileen Fulton. |
| Nite Owl |
| Tuesday December 08 13:16:41 2009 Re: ATWT Cancelled |
| Nite Owl wrote: >> involeved Martha Byrne and Maura West I do remember one > not in the database that involved Eileen Fulton. Very surprised at this. Thought this soap did OK ratings-wise. Likely just cheaper to produce some new game show that will draw similar ratings. Many good scenes over the years. My favs: 1. Peyton List ("hey, that's too tight" as she's being taped up and eventually tape-gagged). 2. Martha Byrne tied up and gagged with black tape for many days in a row. 3. Lesli Kay: Nice tape-gag scene in back of a car. "You scream Maggi and the tape goes back on." |
| Tuesday December 08 13:17:39 2009 Re: ATWT Cancelled |
| Nite Owl wrote: > 2010. > Probably plenty of recollection over DiD scenes for the > next few days. Even though I have personal favorites that > involeved Martha Byrne and Maura West I do remember one > not in the database that involved Eileen Fulton. Wow, this link I found via Google is still available. http://green2.clearvertical.com/~user1914/astheworldturns.html |
| Nite Owl |
| Tuesday December 08 13:37:28 2009 Re: ATWT Cancelled |
| Nite Owl wrote: > link I found via Google is still available. > http://green2.clearvertical.com/~user1914/astheworldturns. > html Those were fuzzweb's pages. Great stuff. Hopefully some clips of the Martha Byrne scenes will emerge. I had two of those and didn't end up saving them. Dumb. |
| Tuesday December 08 14:28:28 2009 Re: AMC |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Goten wrote: > > Scene is currently going on. > Pretty nice so far. Wake-up scene in van, transferred to > hotel room (BTW, how did the thug get a B&G Kendall > up the 6th floor of the hotel?). Good closeups. Lousy > bondage, but if you waited years to see Kendall gagged, > you scored. Lousy bondage? If anyone in the industry put out photos/video with that quality of restraint, they'd be out of business no matter what they did. Just dreadful. Not only is the gag loose, but with her hands tied in front of her, why hasn't she pulled the gag out? |
| Moraxian |
| http://www.moraxiansgalleries.com |
| Tuesday December 08 14:33:26 2009 Re: Vergessen und Vergeben? |
| Do you know more about that? Like how they were gagged or how long the scenes were? It is worth putting much effort in finding this scene? |
| xanatol |
| Tuesday December 08 15:07:08 2009 Re: scene ID |
| rex wrote: > a totally wrong soap opera? Thanks! You could be thinking of Lara Harring in Sunset Beach |
| doug |
| Tuesday December 08 15:42:45 2009 Old Christine |
| It is a female guest star that was chair-tied for Wednesday's episode, not JLD. No gag in the promo. |
| Tuesday December 08 16:25:40 2009 Re: AMC |
| Moraxian wrote: > Just dreadful. > Not only is the gag loose, but with her hands tied in > front of her, why hasn't she pulled the gag out? I have great respect for Moraxian and all of the posters here. But please indulge me while I present a friendly counter-argument: One of the reasons I like soap scenes so much (and I'm so disappointed that soaps are going the way of the fax machine) is that they are so silly, and the bondage is so lame. I know that sounds odd, but there's something I find appealing about the casual way women get bound and gagged in these brightly lit scenes, with the weak ropework, the ineffective gags with lots of gag-talk, et cetera. Sure, I like believable scenes too, but soap scenes -- like the occasional sitcom scene -- is a really neat change-up from all of that. The scene were Kendall sits there untied, speaking (fairly) clearly through her gag, not even attempting to take it off, plays sort of like a fun, consensual bondage scene to me. And that's something I find a real turn-on. That's why I don't mind so much when damsels have their hands tied in front, as long as they don't reach up and take off the gag (I'm a gag snob, obviously). There's that interesting "agreement" between captor and captive that she's leaving the gag on. That's why I also really like the occasional gagged-but-not-bound scene. Don't get me wrong: I love a scene with nice, tight bondage and a strong "reality" aspect, as long as it's not overly violent. But especially at a time when the majority of our scenes come from stark police procedurals, with all of the brutality and terror that often entails, I think it's nice to complement that with these far more "friendly" bondage scenes. Anyway, that's just my opinion, for what it's worth. :) |
| Miss Cleo |
| Tuesday December 08 16:41:32 2009 Re: scene ID |
| doug wrote: > rex wrote: > > a totally wrong soap opera? Thanks! > You could be thinking of Lara Harring in Sunset Beach No, I have THAT scene. This is from WAY earlier, probably mid-70's/early 80's. I very vaguely remembered it from my kid days & some years ago got it in a scene compilation tape from someone & it's labelled as coming from Search for Tomorrow. |
| rex |
| Tuesday December 08 17:10:02 2009 Re: scene ID |
| rex wrote: > doug wrote: > No, I have THAT scene. This is from WAY earlier, probably > mid-70's/early 80's. I very vaguely remembered it from my > kid days & some years ago got it in a scene > compilation tape from someone & it's labelled as > coming from Search for Tomorrow. I have an entry in my database that lists Mary Jo Keenen as being kidnapped in her wedding gown, which was from the mid-1980s. She was grabbed out of her wedding and smuggled onto a ship. As I recall, it was a jealous suitor who grabbed her. |
| Gagster |
| Tuesday December 08 17:24:54 2009 National Lampoon's Ratko: The Dictator's Son |
| Katrina Bowden had her hands duct-taped in front of her in this lame NatLamp movie (along with a few putzes); it aired on Comedy Central this morning. Couldn't watch the whole scene but I suspect there was never any gag. |
| No one in Particular |
| Tuesday December 08 17:36:54 2009 Amores & La Marca del Deseo |
| On "Amores," the bad guy finally escaped from prison today, so the bondage scenes should start in the next episode. Also, "La Marca del deseo" is nearing it's only bondage scene, where it's leading lady, Stephanie Cayo, is chloroformed, bound and cleave-gagged in the backseat of a car and eventually left tied to a stake in the middle of nowhere where she is threatened by a snake. I think the kidnapping will happen in either Friday or Monday's installment. "La Marca del deseo" is airing in two-hour episodes weekdays on Telefutura. |
| Dextor |
| Tuesday December 08 18:34:55 2009 Re: AMC |
| Miss Cleo wrote: > I think it's nice to complement that with > these far more "friendly" bondage scenes. Excellent post. Well said! |
| Tuesday December 08 19:13:54 2009 Re: AMC |
| Miss Cleo wrote: > One of the reasons I like soap scenes so much (and I'm so > disappointed that soaps are going the way of the fax > machine) is that they are so silly, and the bondage is so > lame. > The scene were Kendall sits there untied, speaking > (fairly) clearly through her gag, not even attempting to > take it off, plays sort of like a fun, consensual bondage > scene to me. I don't mind a loose scene either, if the intent of the scene is to be one where loose makes sense. In a classic scene from Bull Durham, where Crash has Annie tied to the bed, she could slip out of the bonds by shrugging her shoulders. She doesn't because it is intended to be a consensual scene. In this case, I suspect (I don't follow the soaps, so I have no idea) the scene was supposed to be non-consensual, a kidnapping, and if that is the case, the bondage should be better. Context is what makes the difference when it comes to how well someone should be tied on camera... |
| Moraxian |
| http://www.moraxiansgalleries.com |
| Tuesday December 08 19:59:27 2009 Re: AMC |
| Moraxian wrote: > Context is what makes the difference when it comes to how well someone should be tied on camera... Instead of worrying about context and whether a scene's bondage is up to commercial standards, why don't you just use your imaginations a little and enjoy seeing an actress get the treatment. Television shows are entertainment. Be entertained instead of always looking to find fault. Enjoy the visual rather than worrying about effectiveness. It's all fantasy anyway, isn't it? |
| VL |
| Tuesday December 08 20:37:12 2009 Re: AMC |
| VL wrote: It's all fantasy anyway, isn't it? Everyone has their preferences, but I love the soaps in general. The scenes are usually very sexy, even if they are campy and silly. I for one am very sad to see the soaps being cancelled. |
| doug |
| Tuesday December 08 22:11:08 2009 Re: Vergessen und Vergeben? |
| xanatol wrote: > Do you know more about that? Like how they were gagged or If its like the earlier scene where a girl was tightly cleave gagged and noosed, well worth it. |
| JH |
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