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Saturday January 05 02:27:21 2002
David: Not Familiar With This Show Here
David:
Not familiar with this cartoon,
So going to throw a few 'on the net' here,
to get your opinion.

These sound similar huh?

Found an episode title:Green Finger (1.24)
Figure that's it for one or both?

Record number: 973

Title: Inspector Gadget
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cree Summer

Description: Gadget's niece Penny enters the Greenfinger mansion, but gets caught by Dr. Claw's agents via monster weeds. A few minutes later, she is tied up in a chair and gagged with a handkerchief, and left in the basement with a scientist, who is bound and gagged as well. Naturally, in desperation she gets the gag off, and calls Brain, who promptly heads for the basement and unites Penny. She is about to untie the scientist, when she hears the footsteps of MAD agents. But when the MAD agents get to the basement, penny and the scientist are bound and gagged again.

Record number: 2384

Title: Inspector Gadget
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cree Summer

Description: 80s cartoon. Episode has Gadget investigating evil plants created by Mr. Greenfinger. Penny does some snooping around but gets tied up by the wild plants. She screams for help and then gets freed by an agent who immediately captures her. She is taken to a basement and tied to a chair and gagged with a white cloth. She is able to remove the gag and manages to untie herself. When two agents then come, she somehow manages to tie and gag herself up again in a split-second(!). As agents leave, one more shot of her looking worried while gagged is shown.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday January 05 02:32:44 2002
David: More Just Putting It On The Net
David:
Found ep: Coo-Coo Clock Caper (1.28)

Figure it's this one?

Record number: 981

Title: Inspector Gadget
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cree Summer

Description: The evil Clockmaker is stealing all of the Swiss gold. Penny goes to investigate in the Clockmaker's basement and discovers MAD agents melting the stolen gold. Suddenly a huge hand clamps over her mouth and she is carried off, mmpphffing furiously. "Tie her in that chair," commands the Clockmaker, and his lackey obeys, gagging her with a large white over the mouth cloth. Later, she is carried into another room, and slips off her gag. "You won't get away with this!" she shouts. "When the clock strikes five, you won't be alive!" he taunts. At the stroke of five, a huge hammer will bash Penny into pieces! Before the Clockmaker leaves Penny to her fate, he wisely slips the gag back over her mouth. In the next scene, Penny mmmpphffs furiously as five approaches. Good close-ups of her struggle as she works the gag loose. She calls out for help, and of course, Brain hears her and saves the day. Note: This is a cartoon!
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday January 05 02:41:43 2002
More Inspector Gadget
Got two more ep: titles.
Ep: Movie Set (1.13)
Ep:Magic Gadget (2.1)
Sound right for any of these?

Record number: 983

Title: Inspector Gadget
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cree Summer

Description: Gadget is investigating a film set, so of course Penny follows and gets captured by MAD agents. She is dressed up as the princess in the film, and tied to a pole and gagged with a white over-the-mouth cloth. Gadget thinks he is acting and apparently doesn't recognize her as he fights a flaming dragon in front of her. Close-ups of Penny as she mmmphhffs. Brain again saves the day.

Record number: 989

Title: Inspector Gadget
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cree Summer

Description: Penny is up above the action, on a scaffolding. Suddenly, viciously, a MAD agent sneaks up behind her and immediately tied a white gag over her mouth! She is tied up, and slid into a huge glass bottle. As soon as she is in the bottle, she works the gag and ropes free, and soon escapes.

Record number: 2383

Title: Inspector Gadget
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cree Summer

Description: 80s cartoon. Episode has Gadget investigating a hypnotic gameshow prop. about halfway through the episode, Penny overhears CLAW's plot and is about to take action when an agent gags her from behind with a white cloth and ties her arms up. shows a scene with her first struggling then stopping to look at her captor. The agent takes her to a prop room and puts her in a giant glass container while he constantly taunts her. Penny unties herself after about 5 seconds in the container.
Jay L
Saturday January 05 02:48:05 2002
Linda Thorson ?
Have had no luck with this one as yet.
Ringing any bells here?

Record number: 3113

Title: Professionals, The
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Linda Thorson

Description: Episode: unknown

Top notch British action series circa 1980 had one episode where the still cute Miss Thorson is tied to a chair by a baddie and tightly cleave-gagged with a dark cloth. Her distress is palpable as the bad guys whispers what is going to happen to her and her pals.
Jay L
Saturday January 05 17:07:08 2002
Re: Linda Thorson ?
> Have had no luck with this one as yet.
> Ringing any bells here?
>
> Record number: 3113
> Title: Professionals, The
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Linda Thorson
> Description: Episode: unknown
>
> Top notch British action series circa 1980 had one
> episode where the still cute Miss Thorson is tied to a
> chair by a baddie and tightly cleave-gagged with a dark
> cloth. Her distress is palpable as the bad guys whispers
> what is going to happen to her and her pals.

This sounds like something I wrote based on someone else's website. I've checked epguides, the IMDb and several websites, all of which have very thorough cast listings and I can't find any reference to Linda Thorson appearing in a "Professionals" episode. It would appear that the damsel has been misidentified or Ms. Thorson placed in the wrong series.
David
Saturday January 05 17:09:18 2002
Re: More Inspector Gadget
> Got two more ep: titles.
>
> Ep: Movie Set (1.13)
>
> Ep:Magic Gadget (2.1)
>
> Sound right for any of these?

Jay, this looks like a job for the Biffster. In any event, shouldn't the damsel be identified as "voiced by Cree Summers"? It's a cartoon after all....
David
Saturday January 05 17:38:59 2002
Re: Linda Thorson ?
> Have had no luck with this one as yet.
>
> Ringing any bells here?
>
>
>
> Record number: 3113
>
> Title: Professionals, The
>
> Medium: TV Series
>
> Actress: Linda Thorson


I have no entries on any of my lists with Ms. Thorson
in The Professionals. The ones I have are:

STIRRING OF DUST UNKNOWN

KILLER WITH A LONG ARM UNKNOWN

NEED TO KNOW KARIN MCCARTHY

LONG SHOT JUDY MATHESON

Without going to the tapes, I can't give any details
about any except Long Shot. All seem to be in the DB
except Need to Know.

Brian R
Saturday January 05 19:25:06 2002
Re: Notes Part 5.
>
> The ... has become popular for a sort of stream of
> conciousness style of posting on message boards. I say
> not only regular posters puttin them in, but also editors
> adding them.
>

I use it when a comma, semicolon or period doesn't "feel" right to me ... as here

It may be product of writing dialogue ... it seems to flow better ... but if there's a compelling reason for flushing it I'm open to persuasion
Biff
Saturday January 05 19:30:28 2002
Re: Notes Part 17.
>
> Also, no such word as halfhour or quarterhour. I changed
> all those to 30 minutes or 15 minutes, seemed better that
> way.
>

Mine ... at least many of 'em. I'll use "half hour" and "quarter hour" in future
Biff
Saturday January 05 19:58:39 2002
Re: David: Not Familiar With This Show Here

> David:
>
> Not familiar with this cartoon,
>
> So going to throw a few 'on the net' here,
>
> to get your opinion.
>
>
>
> These sound similar huh?
>
>
>
> Found an episode title:Green Finger (1.24)
>
> Figure that's it for one or both?
>

973 and 2384 are one and the same
Biff
Saturday January 05 20:00:18 2002
Re: David: More Just Putting It On The Net

> David:
>
> Found ep: Coo-Coo Clock Caper (1.28)
>
>
>
> Figure it's this one?
>
>
>
> Record number: 981
>
>
>
> Title: Inspector Gadget
>
> Medium: TV Series
>
> Actress: Cree Summer
>
>
>
> Description: The evil Clockmaker is stealing all of the
> Swiss gold.
>

Can't say that's the title for certain, but what're the odds?

I'd go with it
Biff
Saturday January 05 20:02:35 2002
Re: More Inspector Gadget

> Got two more ep: titles.
>
> Ep: Movie Set (1.13)
>
> Ep:Magic Gadget (2.1)
>
> Sound right for any of these?
>

Dunno about the ep titles, but 989 and 2383 are dupes
Biff
Saturday January 05 20:06:07 2002
Re: More Inspector Gadget
>
> Jay, this looks like a job for the Biffster. In any
> event, shouldn't the damsel be identified as "voiced by
> Cree Summers"? It's a cartoon after all....
>

On it ... sorry I haven't been checking in here. Didn't realize the need until the "The" discussion cropped up

Absolutely. "Actress: Animated (voiced by Cree Summers)" is how I'd go

BTW ... why all the extra ">"s in the quotes?
Biff
Saturday January 05 20:06:15 2002
Re: Linda Thorson ?
> > Record number: 3113
> > Title: Professionals, The
> > Medium: TV Series
> > Actress: Linda Thorson
> > Description: Episode: unknown

> This sounds like something I wrote based on someone
> else's website. I've checked epguides, the IMDb and
> several websites, all of which have very thorough cast
> listings and I can't find any reference to Linda Thorson
> appearing in a "Professionals" episode.

Same here.

There's a few others that I'm going to run by you like this.
Reluctant to 'Delete' unless nescessary.
Jay L
Saturday January 05 20:09:20 2002
Re: More Inspector Gadget
> Jay, this looks like a job for the Biffster. In any
> event, shouldn't the damsel be identified as "voiced by
> Cree Summers"? It's a cartoon after all....

I can go change this tonight,
was more hoping to go in with ep title & number as well. ;)
Jay L
Saturday January 05 20:12:08 2002
Re: Linda Thorson ?
> > > > Record number: 3113
> >
> > Title: Professionals, The

> I have no entries on any of my lists with Ms. Thorson
> in The Professionals. The ones I have are:

Looking like 'scene creep' here.
Jay L
Saturday January 05 20:18:36 2002
Re: More Inspector Gadget
> Absolutely. "Actress: Animated (voiced by Cree Summers)"
> is how I'd go

There is more cartoon series in there:
Batman Beyond, Mask, Heman, etc.

If you want 'Animated' in that field, no problem.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday January 05 20:26:56 2002
Re: Notes

Okay ... caught up on these

First off, mea culpa for the dupe entry for RED TEAM ... guess I didn't check beforehand, or did something (or had something happen) that didn't allow the first one to show

Title quotes: I use them to differentiate from the series or film title in my cap sets, and just extended the practice to the DB. I guess it's unnecessary in this format, but I'd vote to keep 'em

Choosing type of entry: Yes ... I've caught myself nearly forgetting on films a number of times, and may have had some misses

Episode unknown: I go with "Episode: Unknown" to conform with the style of titled eps

David, will the colon be a problem for your search for these? I can go with "Episode Unknown" (no actual quotes in the entry) if it is

Lastly, as I asked at Discussion, please use "Animated" (along with any other info you deem appropriate) in the ACTRESS field when dealing with such content

I've changed all that had "toon" or some variant in that field. Obviously that didn't catch 'em all, as the GADGET entries have neither. I doubt there's many that didn't have one or t'other, though, and searching on "animated" brings up 130 or so to this point

Jay, in changing those INSPECTOR GADGET entries, could you follow the above, in addition to adding "voiced by"?
Biff
Saturday January 05 20:41:18 2002
The "The"

I have no problem with tailing it, but I wanted to hear what others thought about whether it posed a problem for users who would type "The (Whatever)"

I don't do it myself, going for a concise string, but other less experienced folks might. Of course, they hopefully would then drop the "The", but ...
Biff
Saturday January 05 20:51:02 2002
Re: Notes Part 5.

> I use it when a comma, semicolon or period doesn't "feel"
> right to me ... as here
>
> It may be product of writing dialogue ... it seems to
> flow better ... but if there's a compelling reason for
> flushing it I'm open to persuasion

I was taught that the ellipsis was proper for indicating
missing text, or passage of time. That was the rule in
J school.

Brian R
Saturday January 05 21:44:47 2002
Re: Notes
> Episode unknown: I go with "Episode: Unknown" to conform
> with the style of titled eps
>
> David, will the colon be a problem for your search for
> these? I can go with "Episode Unknown" (no actual quotes
> in the entry) if it is
>

I just ran a search on the database. There are 138 entries with "Episode unknown", 98 entries with "Episode: unknown" (one space after the colon); 4 entries with "Episode: unknown" (two spaces after the colon) and 90 "unknown episode" entries. Aargh!

Unfortunately what you search on is what you get -- if you search for "Episode: unknown", not only won't you get hits for "Episode unknown", but you won't get hits for the entries with two spaces after the colon.

I don't care what we do (much), but we all ought to be doing the same thing. I'd argue that Episode: unknown looks like the episode is named "Unknown" while "Episode unknown" can't be mean anything but "we haven't a clue what the title is: please help!" My two cents anyway.
David
Saturday January 05 21:58:29 2002
Re: Notes

I'd argue that Episode: unknown
> looks like the episode is named "Unknown" while "Episode
> unknown" can't be mean anything but "we haven't a clue
> what the title is: please help!" My two cents anyway.
>

Why don't we go with "Unknown Episode", then? That would remove any doubt as to the meaning
Biff
Saturday January 05 22:11:35 2002
Re: Notes Part 5.
>
> I was taught that the ellipsis was proper for indicating
> missing text, or passage of time. That was the rule in
> J school.
>

I don't think I use "..." in a "stream of consciousness" manner. It's usually equivalent to a pause, as if speaking.

I'm not sure how to resolve this ... other than to say it *is* your site. If you want them 86ed to facilitate a more formal style, I'll defer to your sensibilities.
Biff

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