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Saturday February 02 01:13:58 2002
Episode numbers
One thing that is even more helpful than having the episode listed by season and number such as "2.5" is actually listing the number of the episode in the entire run of the series such as "#35" as well. Here's my reasoning.

The number of episodes per season varies widely from series to series. A show like "Walker Texas Ranger" might have 26 episodes in an average season while a show like "Cracker" might only have 6 in it's season.

For example episode 2.4 for "Walker" would be episode #30, while episode 2.4 for "Cracker" would be episode #10. Since most (but not all) series are syndicated in the original running order you can pretty much guess when a particular episode is going to air.

If "Walker" were beginning a 5 day a week run tomorrow and I wanted a scene from episode #30, I would know to start looking for that scene in about 5 weeks.

Now, I'm by no means suggesting doing away with the current way of doing things aka "2.4". I'm just suggesting that it is sometimes helpful to have the actual episode number as well.

I'd be willing to take on that task if you all think the information would be helpful. My series collection has always been organized that way and I do have a lot of that info readily available. If everyone thinks it would be too confusing that's cool too. Just my take on it.

CM
Saturday February 02 02:23:28 2002
Re: Episode numbers
> One thing that is even more helpful than having the
> episode listed by season and number such as "2.5" is
> actually listing the number of the episode in the entire
> run of the series such as "#35" as well. Here's my
> reasoning.
>
> The number of episodes per season varies widely from
> series to series. A show like "Walker Texas Ranger" might
> have 26 episodes in an average season while a show like
> "Cracker" might only have 6 in it's season.
>
> For example episode 2.4 for "Walker" would be episode
> #30, while episode 2.4 for "Cracker" would be episode
> #10. Since most (but not all) series are syndicated in
> the original running order you can pretty much guess when
> a particular episode is going to air.
>
> If "Walker" were beginning a 5 day a week run tomorrow
> and I wanted a scene from episode #30, I would know to
> start looking for that scene in about 5 weeks.

We've started ID'ng a bunch more ep titles.
Once we have all the titles, this wondering about ep# shouldn't be a problem with alerts.

The US or '2.4' etc, is really useful to people who have series that air in a different language & translated titles.
Like me.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 02 04:55:00 2002
Re: # 1718, The Mag, ep Title Or Alt Title Question?
> Or Sister Said was part of an umbrella series called "The
> Mag". Frex in the mid-70s MacMillian and Wife, Columbo
> and McCloud rotated as part of "NBC Mystery Movie".

I see.
Heard mention of this before.

Get kind of thrown, as only saw them 'off and on' back then, didn't figure they were connected.
Or at the time: clear day, you got US stations, rain/snow you didn't. ;)
And,
of the ones mentioned, only seen Columbo translated and airing up here.

Figure I'll just do same for this one as Columbo entries.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 02 05:20:14 2002
Re: Database Style Manual
> ** Put quotes around the episode name -- this quickly
> identifies that piece of information.

> ** The IMDb uses (#3.1) as their format while Epguides
> uses (3-1) as their format. IMHO, we should use (3.1) as
> the episode number format. It’s sorta like the IMDb, but
> drops the “#” since it’s a waste of a keystroke and
> provides no useful information.

David:
Recently figured and started going with your system (or above described),with "" &.,
so most of them will be uniform, eventually.

One trouble area, is Movies ID'd as TV Series.
I've picked off ones I've known or looked blatantly screwed, but put Unknown episode in some and will go through later.
Suspect there's quite a few more like this.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 02 05:58:59 2002
Re: Episode numbers
> One thing that is even more helpful than having the
> episode listed by season and number such as "2.5" is
> actually listing the number of the episode in the entire
> run of the series such as "#35" as well <snip>

> For example episode 2.4 for "Walker" would be episode
> #30, while episode 2.4 for "Cracker" would be episode
> #10. Since most (but not all) series are syndicated in
> the original running order you can pretty much guess when
> a particular episode is going to air. <snip>

> I'd be willing to take on that task if you all think the
> information would be helpful. My series collection has
> always been organized that way and I do have a lot of
> that info readily available. If everyone thinks it would > be too confusing that's cool too. Just my take on it.

Personally, I think the information is redundant and not worth the effort (and you're talking about a hell of a lot of time and energy to correct past and future entries), but I'm willing to sign on if I'm in the minority. Anyone else have thoughts?
David
Saturday February 02 09:08:19 2002
Re: # 1718, The Mag, ep Title Or Alt Title Question?
> Figure I'll just do same for this one as Columbo entries.

I wouldn't get too worried about it. "Mystery Movie" had about five different titles, "Wednesday Mystery Movie", "Friday Mystery Movie", etc. It also had different shows in their rotation over the years.

BTW, I couldn't find any reference to "The Mag" on Google or any other search engine and only one German site had anything on "Sister Said".
Saturday February 02 09:11:35 2002
Re: Database Style Manual
> One trouble area, is Movies ID'd as TV Series.
> I've picked off ones I've known or looked blatantly
> screwed, but put Unknown episode in some and will go
> through later.
> Suspect there's quite a few more like this.

I've cleaned up a bunch over the years. Hell, I've created a bunch, too. Bryan's discussed eliminating the TV series default setting -- when he gets around to that, it will help a lot, I'm thinking. We'll just have to clean up past sins when we come upon them.

David
Saturday February 02 11:09:12 2002
Re: Episode numbers
> > One thing that is even more helpful than having the
> > episode listed by season and number such as "2.5" is
> > actually listing the number of the episode in the
> entire
> > run of the series such as "#35" as well <snip>

> Personally, I think the information is redundant and not
> worth the effort (and you're talking about a hell of a
> lot of time and energy to correct past and future
> entries), but I'm willing to sign on if I'm in the
> minority. Anyone else have thoughts?

I would say no. My reasoning is that almost every show
now has at least a episode list in epguides or one of
the others. Those who are waiting on an episode can use
that to figure out where in the run the repeats are,
based on the list.

I think the current system is fine.

Brian R
Saturday February 02 11:10:59 2002
Re: Database Style Manual
> > One trouble area, is Movies ID'd as TV Series.


> Bryan's discussed eliminating the
> TV series default setting


Bryan is going to do it? Oh good, then I won't need to!

Seriously, I'll try to attend to that shortly.

Brian R
Saturday February 02 11:48:12 2002
Re: Episode numbers
> I would say no. My reasoning is that almost every show
> now has at least a episode list in epguides or one of
> the others. Those who are waiting on an episode can use
> that to figure out where in the run the repeats are,
> based on the list.

Some had to be taken out,
due to multiple and conflicting lists.

Been going with epguides, as figure order aired in US first time should be fairly consistant.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 02 20:46:27 2002
Re: TV Movie Default Setting- Heads Up To David Only
> Bryan is going to do it? Oh good, then I won't need to!
>
> Seriously, I'll try to attend to that shortly.

Brian:
That was more a comment to my buddy David,
(who is much more knowledgable than the boy here about TV/Movies),
that there's going to be a lot more 'Unknown eps' showing up that are suspect.
Not,
getting on you about changing the 'TV Default'.

I can rough confirm first half of TV entries are rough 'David style',
figure all will be by end of week.
Once sorted, etc
New warped entries will be easier to spot.

We'll get it sorted Buddy.

BTW: Bryan?
As in my fellow Canuck 'Bryan Marchment'?
Didn't figure he'd be all that popular with a Blues fan?
but,
a good, though 'extreme' choice to deal with problem entries. :)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Saturday February 02 22:33:54 2002
Amazons, entry number 4292
I am quite sure that this entry is not correct. the girl bound to the killer tree is not penelope reed ("tashi") but danitza kingsley ("tshingi") who is searching for a holy sword together with windsor taylor randolph ("dyala"). perhaps someone can confirm this.
Landvogt
bondagetipps@gmx.de
Saturday February 02 22:38:57 2002
entry #4292, amazons
oops, sorry. forget that last entry. it IS "tashi" (penelope reed) who is bound to the tree; the entry is correct! sorry for the confusion.
Landvogt
bondagetipps@gmx.de

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