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Tuesday March 29 05:39:36 2011
Re: Hot damsel rescued by bumbling oaf
> Can anyone think of other instances in mainstream medua where a hot damsel is rescued by a character who is more
bumbling oaf rather than dashing hero?
~~~~
Virginia Mayo by Danny Kaye in "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty" (1947).
Batgirl by Alfred in Batman "Catwoman's Dressed to Kill".
Nicolette Sheridan by Chris Farley in "Beverly Hills Ninja" (1997).
Various damsels by Leslie Nielsen in "Spy Hard" (1996).
Yvonne Strzechowski in Chuck "Chuck versus the Helicopter" (1.2).

And of course, the premise of the "Get Smart" TV series and various TV adaptations.

J.T.
Tuesday March 29 08:05:27 2011
Bored to death
Don't know if this one has already passed through and I missed it but there was a scene on 'bored to death' on Sky Atlantic.

About 15 - 20 minutes in Adrien Brody breaks into a hotel room where a guy has tied his girlfriend to the bed (she is in bra and knickers) and has stuffed a clothe in her mouth. Lasts a minute or so. Not a bad scene.
The Goat
Tuesday March 29 10:07:21 2011
Re: The Event
joe wrote:

> I know Taylor Cole tied up sarah roemer but what was the
> other scene?

Last week, a couple B&G as Taylor and another guy stole their ID cards.

Looks like Taylor will be B&G in a fire.

http://i.imgur.com/ZNWSE.jpg
Tuesday March 29 10:42:07 2011
Re: Tamara Fox bound and gagged in Batman #706
Rich McGill wrote:

> MCH wrote:
> > Sam wrote: > Nice! Love how they put the
> obligatory
> > "MMPHH!" ...
> It only makes any sense as a sound effect for an OTM,
> because one has to have one's lips together to make the
> "mm" part of the sound. However, I don't think
> anyone can make the "ff/ph" sound unless the
> lips are apart without anything between them. I guess
> it's just a cliche/shortcut to show that the damsel isn't being passive.

I have always thought the "phh" sound was meant to represent a nasal exhalation at the end of the hum,or perhaps an inhalation before the next one. It also goes nicely with the Greek for gag, "phimotron".
Mad Dan
http://www.dansdidnts.com
Tuesday March 29 12:06:19 2011
Re: Tamara Fox bound and gagged in Batman #706
Mad Dan wrote:

> It also goes
> nicely with the Greek for gag, "phimotron".

Just to clarify, "phimotron" is Ancient Greek for gag. The modern Greek word is the same, but without the n at the end.

Tuesday March 29 12:46:43 2011
Re: Tamara Fox bound and gagged in Batman #706
Mad Dan wrote:

> I have always thought the "phh" sound was meant
> to represent a nasal exhalation at the end of the hum,or
> perhaps an inhalation before the next one. It also goes
> nicely with the Greek for gag, "phimotron".

This one makes the most sense IMHO. At least I managed to strike up a more thought-provoking topic than f'ckin Wonder Woman and her clothes, lol.
Sam
Tuesday March 29 13:41:15 2011
Re: Bored to death
The Goat wrote:

> About 15 - 20 minutes in Adrien Brody breaks into a hotel
> room where a guy has tied his girlfriend to the bed (she
> is in bra and knickers) and has stuffed a clothe in her
> mouth.

Appreciate the attempt to help, but I respectfully must say I think you're a little off on this one. Adrien Brody isn't in the show Bored to Death; it's somewhat similar-looking (though much shorter) Jason Schwartzman. And the scene you're describing with the cloth stuff gag sounds exactly like one from the show back in its first season (1999).
Miss Cleo
Tuesday March 29 13:42:10 2011
Re: Bored to death
Miss Cleo wrote:

Yep, I noticed that error at the very second I hit "submit." I meant 2009, not 1999.

Miss Cleo
Tuesday March 29 15:45:04 2011
The Good Old Days
Lately I've been wondering why the thrill of seeing a new scene isn't what it used to be. I already knew of several factors: duct tape gags are visually not as interesting as white adhesive tape or a white handerchief, blood and gore were always negatives for me, and just the heightened availability of scenes compared to the days before DVRs and VCRs makes them more run of the mill.

But even so, it's not that the interest has declined. Just, it seemed, the quality of the scenes.

One big difference in today's scenes is that, even if there's no blood and gore, there is often a lot of crying, struggling, dirt, sweat, etc. in an effort to make things realistic. And I suppose realistically, being bound and gagged would likely create a certain amount of hysteria.

Then someone made the "statue" comment about the scene in "V", which I thought was an excellent scene. And when I saw the Karen Jensen scene from "Run for Your Life", it hit me.

In the "V" scene and the "Run for Your Life" scene, the damsels were very quiet and still, accepting their helplessness, a fairly common trait from the scenes of the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's.

I finally realized that one of the things I find attractive about those scenes is the unspoken idea that being gagged could render a beautiful woman completely docile and compliant.

Not that there weren't notable exceptions, but that kind of scene seems increasingly rare.
Gag Fan
Tuesday March 29 16:28:34 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
Gag Fan wrote:

> duct tape gags are visually not as
> interesting as white adhesive tape

I'm actually glad that they don't use white tape anymore for gags. That old-school elastoplast "look" has never appealed to me in the same way as the standard grey tape, which is what I grew up seeing on TV. I will say, though, that black is always boring (unless it's the very shiny kind & well sealed, like the one used on Alicia Witt in Urban Legend).

Nowadays, for me, the main thrill of seeing a new scene is when some really popular actress gets the treatment, or one who we've all wanted to see. Obviously by now we've seen it all in terms of DiD action on mainstream TV, but I still think it's nice surprise when some A-list hottie like Laura Vandervoort gets B&G'ed, or Eva LaRue finally after all these years.
Sam
Tuesday March 29 16:34:32 2011
Re: Amy Adams will be Lois Lane
After all the ink spilled about Wonder Woman, no comment about Amy as Lois? This movie might break the cycle for Lois Lane in film
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/amy-adams-lois-lane-slice.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/LoisAndClark-MadameEx.jpg
http://www.bondageparade.com/thumb/Superman-IrresistableForce.jpg
Tuesday March 29 16:59:31 2011
Re: Amy Adams will be Lois Lane
(unsigned poster) wrote:
We can only hope.

tie em
Tuesday March 29 17:19:37 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
Sam wrote:

> I'm actually glad that they don't use white tape anymore
> for gags. That old-school elastoplast "look"
> has never appealed to me

I think us white tape fans are talking about two different tapes. I don't recall many elastoplast scenes in mainstream TV. What I miss is the classic white adhesive tape used in the 1980s.
http://i.imgur.com/pNVWR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4Jr7H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yT0Cp.jpg
Tuesday March 29 18:02:01 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> I think us white tape fans are talking about two
> different tapes. I don't recall many elastoplast scenes
> in mainstream TV. What I miss is the classic white adhesive tape used in the 1980s.

Oh I meant both. The elastoplast type (in whatever scenes had them), and that adhesive one in the above pics. My reaction to seeing those has always been "Laaaaaame!" Grey duct tape, when sealed well, just looks stronger and more gritty/realistic in a DiD scene. Then again, I never saw much of those 1970s-80s shows that featured the white stuff so prominently.
Sam
Tuesday March 29 18:07:48 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
Sam wrote:

> Oh I meant both. The elastoplast type (in whatever scenes
> had them), and that adhesive one in the above pics. My
> reaction to seeing those has always been
> "Laaaaaame!"

I wish I could fake, to change Heather's white gag to grey duct tape to make a comparison. I like all tape-gags, although black would be my third choice behind white and grey.
Tuesday March 29 18:30:07 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
Sam wrote:

> I'm actually glad that they don't use white tape anymore
> for gags.

It's interesting how personal preferences vary. I greatly prefer white tape gags and miss them terribly. I think the main reason is that they usually seemed softer and perhaps a bit more pliable than gray duct tape gags, so there was a greater likelihood of getting the impression of lips pushing through, that sort of thing.

It also might just be that gray duct tape seems rather "industrial," as does black tape, whereas white seems more like a household option, which also makes it seem more attractive to me somehow. It could just be the aesthetics of the colors, too.

I don't mind gray too much if it's clearly sealed tightly on the mouth. I can't stand the loosies and the ones that are only sealed on the sides. And give me a nice slightly translucent (not transparent) tape gag that's sealed tightly and I'm in heaven.
Miss Cleo
Tuesday March 29 18:40:48 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
Miss Cleo wrote:

> give me a nice slightly
> translucent (not transparent) tape gag that's sealed
> tightly and I'm in heaven.

Aw no, even worse. :-P

If I want to see a damsel's lips, cleave does that job (or a ballgag, if one likes those). When it comes to tape, especially grey duct tape, I like that whole gritty "hardware store" aspect of it. Makes it seem more like a planned kidnapping than a hackjob. Then again, for a quick hackjob tie-up, torn cloth definitely has its own appeal.
Sam
Tuesday March 29 23:30:03 2011
Re: The Good Old Days
Miss Cleo wrote:

> It also might just be that gray duct tape seems rather
> "industrial," as does black tape, whereas white
> seems more like a household option, which also makes it
> seem more attractive to me somehow.

I think duct tape might be used more often simply because it's what it is likely to be on-set anyways. i.e. why would the props people bother going out and buying white tape when one of the lighting or set guys probably has a roll of duct tape lying around.
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