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Sunday December 30 03:29:27 2001
Re: Fan-sites & Unknowns
David:
Here's another bugger of a series.

Record number: 138

Title: That Girl
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Marlo Thomas

Description: Episode: Don't Just Do Something, Stand There

Tape gagged and heavily tied with rope. Bound arms to her sides, ankles together. She is rescued by her boyfriend to be, but it's all part of a commercial she's doing. Marlo is wearing a mini-skirt and pumps. Nice scenes of her being carried bound, and of her hopping around while bound. When her boyfriend rescues her, he only removes the gag, feels bad about ruining the commercial, and leaves without untying Marlo.


Okay,
Some of the fan-sites have this one listed as the first episode,
Others claim there was one that aired previous.
Which leads to this:

Record number: 139

Title: That Girl
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Marlo Thomas

Description: Episode unknown

In another DiD commercial shoot, she is tied to railroad tracks.


I haven't much luck at finding this second commercial shoot episode.
Someone on Discussion posted about this episode (#139), being censored due to the DID scenes.
(Or something? Can look it up)
On a fan-site, there was a claim the real first episode was dropped to change Marlo's character from (rough quote)
"appearing 'Jewish' to appearing more 'Mid-Western'"
(Whatever? & Whatever the heck that means?)
So,
Figure this dropped 1st ep had the RRtracks commercial?
Or,
Figure just haven't come across the actual ep yet?
Thanx
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 04:03:43 2001
Re: Entry # 139, Marlo Thomas RRTracks Scene
Re: That Girl (# 139)
From Discussion:

"The episode under discussion was originally 1 hour long, and then shown in 2 parts in syndication. Marlo's character was shown filming a series of commercials for a product (a drink?)--all of which had a DiD theme. The entire campaign was cancelled due to a backlash against violence in mainstream media (how ironic)."

Just to add:
I haven't been able to find any information on dropped eps.
I recall this show airing up here,
But don't remember any mention of 'dropped episodes' here at the time.

This ringing any bells with you?
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 13:24:48 2001
Re: Fan-sites & Unknowns
> Record number: 138
>
> Title: That Girl
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Marlo Thomas
>
> Description: Episode: Don't Just Do Something, Stand
> There
>
> Tape gagged and heavily tied with rope.
>
>
> Record number: 139
>
> Title: That Girl
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Marlo Thomas
>
> Description: Episode unknown
>
> In another DiD commercial shoot, she is tied to railroad
> tracks.
>
> Figure this dropped 1st ep had the RRtracks commercial?
>
> Or,
>
> Figure just haven't come across the actual ep yet?


The first entry (#138) came from the series initial episode, "Don't Just Do Something, Stand There." IIRC, the second scene (#139) was the last of a series of commercials that Ann Marie was featured in, which makes episode "7 1/4 (Part 2)" (3.7) a likely suspect. That's only an educated guess, however.

It may be scene creep, but I remember the action occuring right at the end of the episode with the last shot of Don Hollinger, Ann's boyfriend, carrying her away from the tracks. I recollect her wearing an old-time white dress and still had thick ropes wrapped around her.

David
Sunday December 30 13:26:23 2001
Re: Notes Part 8.

> > Actress: Robey
> > Actress: Louise Robey
> >
> > Isn't she listed as "Robey" in the credits of the
> show?
>
> She's listed as Louise Robey in the IMDb.

But also:
Sometimes Credited As:
Louise Burford
Robey

"Friday the 13th" (1987) TV Series (as Robey) .... Michelle 'Micki' Foster

>If somebody
> just put in Robey, they get a match, but if we eliminated
> "Louise" and the seeker entered Louise Robey, there
> wouldn't be a match. I suppose we could change it to
> "Louise Robey (aka Robey)," but that seems a little anal,
> even for me.

Good enough. Not a huge deal, and we've now discussed it.
I'm satisfied.
Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:29:47 2001
Re: Notes Part 16.
> > > Actress: Elizabeth Ashley, several extras
> >
> > Several unknowns
> >
> > Several unknown
> >
> >
> > Let's come up with a consistent policy for on this. I
> > guess I lean towards the third.
>
> Call me picky, but according to my dictionary, the plural
> for unknown is unknowns.

For nouns, but not for adjectives.

For instance, if it was lot orders of autos, and the
category was Color, would you put:


Color: Two greens, three blues

Or

Color: Two green, three blue


What I mainly want to avoid is one editor changing
another's previous changes.
Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:30:12 2001
Re: Entry # 139, Marlo Thomas RRTracks Scene
> Re: That Girl (# 139)
>
> From Discussion:
>
>
>
> "The episode under discussion was originally 1 hour long,
> and then shown in 2 parts in syndication. Marlo's
> character was shown filming a series of commercials for a
> product (a drink?)--all of which had a DiD theme. The
> entire campaign was cancelled due to a backlash against
> violence in mainstream media (how ironic)."
>
> This ringing any bells with you?

Should have read further down the page first, because it's all coming back to me now. I don't think all the commericials had bondage themes, but all involved dangerous stunts; the last one involving damsels and railroad tracks was dangerous, if I remember correctly, because it involved a real steam engine.

I'm going to edit this episode to read "7 1/4 (Part 2)" (?) and maybe someone can confirm it at a later date.
David
Sunday December 30 13:35:01 2001
Re: Notes Part 19.

> I thought we came to an understanding on the "episode
> unknown" thing before, but here's my argument in favor of
> it. First, it emphasizes that more information is
> requested for this database entry. Second, we can sort
> on "episode unknown" and update scenes which are missing
> that title.

Ok, that's a good point.

I've been working through them with my
> reference books, as time permits. It's certainly easier
> looking for "episode unknown" then plowing throwing six
> and half thousand entries which may or may not be missing
> an episode title.

I just figured you'd do a search on the show title, then
go through and pick up the ones needing episodes.

Of course, you could do and AND search.

> As for the quotes around episode titles, I thought we had
> decided to put quotes around the episode titles because
> that's the IMDb format and more than half of the ones
> already in the database had quotes around them already.

Fine by me. We just need a consistent policy. Once we get
everyone on the same page, it will reduce work all around.

Everybody has their own opinion on how things should
look (witness some of my blanket decisions during the
fixup). But editors working against each other is
counterproductive.

There aren't that many editors that are very active, so
it shouldn't be too hard to come to an agreement.
Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:39:20 2001
Re: Notes Part 20.
> > Title: Prisoner aka Captive Women; Prisoner: Cell
> Block
> > Ha
> >
> > I'm sure the Ha was supposed to be H. I also didn't
> find
> > any indication that Captive Women was an alternated
> > title, but I didn't remove it either.
>
> According to the IMDb, one of the alternate title for
> Prisoner was Caged Women, not Captive Women. This sounds
> like one of mine, so either I'm an idiot and made the
> same mistake five times, or the IMDb changed their
> alternate title. Or maybe I'm and idiot _and_ the IMDb
> changed the title.


When I was doing the fixup, if I saw a title change for
a series, I pretty much did a global fix. So if you put
it in once, then all would get changed. Titles are the
most searched for item, so consistency and accuracy there
is vital.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:46:16 2001
Re: Notes Part 22.

> As someone who has screwed up more than his share, I vote
> for eliminating the TV series default and forcing us to
> select the medium.

I'll look at that.

Again, editors, feel free to bring problem areas to my
attention. We can then discuss possible solutions from
my end.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:48:56 2001
Re: Notes Part 1.
> > I noticed at least one of the editors was severely
> > trimming out storyline context from the entries.

> That was myself here.
> Figured the additional information was to help with IDing
> episode titles, and hence no longer needed.
>
> If David & yourself like it, no problem.
> Will leave them as is in future.

The episode titles are very useful, of course. I guess
I'd prefer some context left in. Obviously, if the
contributor goes on and on about things not related to
the scene, then trimming is definitely in order. But
some text help set the scene or to remind the reader
of which one it is (me especially) is helpful.
Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:52:05 2001
Re: David, TV Series Fan Sites
> Record number: 1889
>
> Title: Kojak
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Jean Lapierre
>
> Description: Episode: Unknown
>
> Chief Detective McNeil's wife has been kidnapped to
> prevent him from interfering with a crime. Kojak's men
> rescue her from an abandoned warehouse at the end of the
> episode. She's tied to a chair and gagged with a piece of
> clear tape. Short scene.
>
> Okay,
>
> A fan-site had a wife kidnapped description for:
> Kojak, ep: Trade-Off (#46, 2-23)
> IMDB has ep: Trade-Off as (1-23)
>
> Also, fansite had Jean Le Bouvier not
> Jean Lapierre credited as playing character Lillian
> McNeil.
>
> IMDB has Jean Le Bouvier listed as credited with ep:
> Trade-Off (1-23)
>
> Couldn't find Jean Lapierre listed in IMDB
>
>
> What do you think here?
>
> Figure rough same or different ep?
> (Lot of conflicting info huh?)

Thanx


I have a book called Television Detective Shows of the 1970s and it doesn't even list an episode with this title (it seems to skip over that week), HOWEVER, I have seen the episode and the action described is accurate. I believe that the book is missing the episode and that we should credit the DiD as Le Bouvier. It should be episode #2.23, though.

I'll make the changes.
David
Sunday December 30 13:52:56 2001
Re: Notes Part 19.

> I would like to leave this, as it makes it easier to find
> ones that need additions in future.
> Was starting from top down, (search TV Series).
> Right now I have 16 scrap pages with eps to check into.

Do you mean the Episode: unknown bit? I think David
explained that well enough. And I did go ahead and
restore all those.

> BTW: I guess that makes myself that 'one' editor.

It's not a huge deal, but there is merit in consistency.
Brian R
Sunday December 30 13:53:37 2001
Oops...did a double entry..
I wasn't sure if my recent addition went through, and it did twice, because I thought the first didn't.

Record number: 6457

Title: The Three Musketeers(1993)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Julie Delpy

Description: The cute French actress is handgagged for an extended period in the last half-hour of the film by D'Artagnon(Chris O'Donnell). She looks like she is enjoying it. Delpy plays Constance.

-Mr. RedViper



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Record number: 6458

Title: The Three Musketeers(1993)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Julie Delpy

Description: The cute French actress is handgagged for an extended period in the last half-hour of the film by D'Artagnon(Chris O'Donnell). She looks like she is enjoying it. Delpy plays Constance.

-Mr. RedViper
Mr. RedViper
Sunday December 30 13:59:39 2001
Re: Notes Part 8.

> Part of this my fault,
> Louise Robey is a Canuck,
> and known here under that name.
> If she's just known in US as Robey,
> that's how the boy here will refer to her as well.

I think David convinced me that her full name is better,
so no need to do anything.

> Jay(Fast Becoming The Boy Who Ruined Brian's Christmas) L

Please don't think that. I'm not at all upset or anything.
As I mentioned earlier, the good thing about the DB crash
is that it forces me to do something I should be doing
all the time, and that's monitor what changes the editors
have been making, and identify problem areas.

My goal is to have my free labor operating with as little
trouble and duplicate effort as possible. If you guys
went away, then I'd have to take up all that effort
again. With the DB grown to over 6000 entries (this has
got to be the most thorough compendium on the subject
ever) the task would overwhelm me.

Frankly, you guys could tell me to take every comment
and edict, and shove 'em, and there wouldn't be anything
I could do.

I need you worse than you need me.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 14:01:19 2001
Re: Fan-sites & Unknowns?
> Record number: 680
>
> Title: Hawaii Five-0
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Marian McCargo
>
> Description: She's been kidnapped for ransom, and is kept
> tied to a chair and blindfolded. No gag.
>
>
> Wasn't able to find much on searching under Marian
> McCargo.
>
> But recall when this series aired on CKVR channel awhile
> back, these two ep descriptions from fan-site sounded
> familiar.
>
> ep: Which Way Did They Go? (2-14)
>
> ep: The Gunrunner (3-20)
>
>
> What do you think?

McCargo was a guest star in "The Gunrunner" episode. Good catch!
David
Sunday December 30 14:02:10 2001
Re: David's Post
>
> If Brian & yourself want quotes?
>
> Can work on getting them back in.
>
> Let me know what you want to do on this?

I wouldn't go through a lot of effort putting them in.
It's not really very confusing to the reader, it clearly
says Episode: blah blah or "blah blah".

Brian R
Sunday December 30 14:04:21 2001
Re: David & Brian, Entry 5481

> I got the (1-3) from using the episode title Push It on a
> Cobra series fan-site.
>
> Actually, got all the Cobra series entries from that
> site.
> Not familiar with the Cobra series,
>
> So let me know if the other entries sound amiss as well.

I'm probably just misremembering when the scene occurred.
There were so many scenes in that show (I wish it had
gone more than a single season).

Evidence seems to indicate that 1.3 is correct.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 14:10:04 2001
Re: Notes Part 12

> Figured with no 'burnt at the stake' scene,
>
> Buddy who entered it may have mistaken this film with another?

> Why I took it out.

Sounds reasonable. There were no responses to David's
question about it on Discussion, so I've gone ahead and
reinstituted the change.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 14:14:24 2001
Re: David's Post

> Actually, whether we use quotes around episode names or
> not, I just want to be consistent throughout the
> database. There seemed to be more episode names with
> quotes than without, which is why I started changing the
> offending entries, er, the one's without quotes. Mebbe
> we need a Database style manual.

That's my goal as well. We could certainly put together
some guidelines, at least fot the editors if not for
the general populace.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 14:16:14 2001
Re: Notes Part 12

> > Title: Hocus Pocus (1993)

> Let's post it on the discussion page and see if we can
> get a consensus.

We didn't get much response, so I'll go with the other
person's proposed change. I've made the adjustment.

Brian R
Sunday December 30 14:27:17 2001
Re: David: I'm Up Waiting For Old Pere Noel Here. :)
> David:
>
> I haven't seen some of these shows, and some have
> different air-dates for US and outside US. (Like here)
>
> Figure I'd run a few by you, before editing:
>
>
>
> Name Of The Game,
>
> ep: The Third Choice (#825)
> Get ep (1-24) for it, sound about right?

Yes.

>
> ep: Pineapple Rose (#4334)
> Get ep (1-14), sound right for US?

Yes.

>
> ep: Unknown (#2715) with Jessica Walter
> Figure ep: Showdown, in 3rd season?
>

Episode 3.23 -- according to my reference book, it was the only episode Ms. Walter appeared in.

>
>
>
> Bracken's World
> ep: Fallen, Fallen, Is Babylon
>
> Getting ep (1-10), sound correct for US?

Sorry, can't help on this one.
David
Sunday December 30 15:17:53 2001
Re: That Girl (#139)**** Score!
From Discussion Page:

> Also,
> Did the episode appear to take place in St Louis?
> Los Angeles?

"I pretty sure the episode described in the second scene (#139) was "7 1/4 (Part 2)". I recall the advertising campaign commercials being shot in Los Angeles and requiring Ann Marie to perform all kinds of dangerous stunts because of the low budget, including being tied to the railroad tracks with a real train (i.e., a regularly scheduled one) about to run over her while she was tied to the tracks."

David:
Fansites had 'dare-devil' stunts,
and filmed or taking place in Los Angeles for ep: 7 1/4, prts 1 & 2.

Looks like we finally got this bugger! Fantastic! :)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 15:23:21 2001
Re: Notes Part 1.
> Obviously, if the
> contributor goes on and on about things not related to
> the scene, then trimming is definitely in order. But
> some text help set the scene or to remind the reader
> of which one it is (me especially) is helpful.

Brian R:
Understood.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 15:40:42 2001
Re: Notes Part 19.
> > Fine by me. We just need a consistent policy.

> There aren't that many editors that are very active,

Brian & David:
Figure I'll look at the next few you edit,
and edit all these I've got lined up ready to go the same way.

As for active editors:
I do want to get more active,
But,
I've yet to see many of these shows,
(CKVR & CITY channels normally air them later after airing in US)
Also,
'Multiple ep titles' like Lois & Clark,
ep: The Rival, roughly translated, is ep: A Star Is Born.
A bugger,
Slows the boy here down abit. :)

With these fan-sites appearing accurate,
should be able to get more involved here.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 15:56:16 2001
Re: David, Kojak
> > I have a book called Television Detective Shows of the
> 1970s

> It should be
> episode #2.23, though.

David:
While on Kojak,
some more conflicting (Fan-sites & IMDB) info.

(#991), ep: Death Is Not A Passing Grade
Got 1-13, 1-14 & 2-14
IMDB= 1-13

(#3789) ep: The Best Judge Money Can Buy
Got 1-31, 2-8 & 2-9
IMDB= 2-9

See the IMDB was off on this series, so would you mind checking this?
Thanx

BTW: Going to have to look for some books like the one you mentioned. :)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 16:01:57 2001
Re: Notes Part 19.
> Do you mean the Episode: unknown bit?

Brian R:
Replied before I read David's post,
which said what I wanted, and more eloquently. :)
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 16:25:23 2001
Re: Notes Part 8.
Re: Jay(Fast Becoming The Boy Who Ruined Brian's Christmas)
L

> Please don't think that. I'm not at all upset or
> anything.

Brian R:
More of a case of feeling bad enough about dumping all that work on you during Christmas. :)
Intent was,
Get the ep #'s for the major series to take the work load off yourself and David,
(Xena, Avengers, Man From Uncle, Walker The Texas Ranger, etc)
Then work down.
But Boy O Boy, that's not what come about huh? :)

Then,
Going down your list of 'that editor' realising,
'That editor'= The boy here :)

If you're not upset, than no problem here.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 16:33:24 2001
Re: Hawaii 5-0
> > Record number: 680
> >
> > Title: Hawaii Five-0
> > Medium: TV Series
> > Actress: Marian McCargo
> >
> > Description: She's been kidnapped for ransom, and is
> kept
> > tied to a chair and blindfolded. No gag.

> > ep: The Gunrunner (3-20)

> McCargo was a guest star in "The Gunrunner" episode.

Sounds like we got another one here. Fantastic!
That one was a bugger as well.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 16:37:09 2001
Re: Quotes
> > I wouldn't go through a lot of effort putting them in.
> It's not really very confusing to the reader, it clearly
> says Episode: blah blah or "blah blah".

Brian:
Understood
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 16:43:56 2001
Re: David: I'm Up Waiting For Old Pere Noel Here. :)
> > > > Name Of The Game,
> >
> > ep: The Third Choice (#825)
> > Get ep (1-24) for it, sound about right?

> > ep: Pineapple Rose (#4334)
> > Get ep (1-14), sound right for US?

> > ep: Unknown (#2715) with Jessica Walter
> > Figure ep: Showdown, in 3rd season?

> Episode 3.23 -- according to my reference book, it was
> the only episode Ms. Walter appeared in.

Sounds like we got this one as well.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 16:52:41 2001
Re: Bracken's World (#25 & # 4193)
I'll probably go find the site and link it, for where I found the rough air-dates.
Where I got (#25) ep: Fallen Fallen Is Babylon (1-10)?

The real bugger has been confirming:
(#4193) ep: Unknown, with Linda Harrison
Any luck with this one?
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 17:19:22 2001
Barrios Altos
I believe entries 2117 and 5940 are duplicates.
Origpooh
Sunday December 30 18:39:43 2001
Re: Barrios Altos
> I believe entries 2117 and 5940 are duplicates.

Got it, thanks.
Brian R
Sunday December 30 18:52:42 2001
Re: David, Kojak
> While on Kojak,
> some more conflicting (Fan-sites & IMDB) info.
>
> (#991), ep: Death Is Not A Passing Grade
> Got 1-13, 1-14 & 2-14
> IMDB= 1-13

I have episode 1.13

>
> (#3789) ep: The Best Judge Money Can Buy
> Got 1-31, 2-8 & 2-9
> IMDB= 2-9

I have episode 2.8. The entry in the IMDb was a two hour episode subsequently chopped into two hour long shows for syndication. All the subsequent episode numbers are one off.

> BTW: Going to have to look for some books like the one
> you mentioned. :)

Unfortunately, they're all published by MacFarland & Co., which means they ain't cheap. They are useful, though.
David
Sunday December 30 18:54:26 2001
Re: Bracken's World (#25 & # 4193)
> The real bugger has been confirming:
> (#4193) ep: Unknown, with Linda Harrison
>
> Any luck with this one?

No clue. Harrison was a regular; since the scene described was a "scene inside a scene" it could have been in any of the episodes that in which she appeared.
Sunday December 30 19:40:07 2001
Several additions
My apologies: I watched and vidcapped "The Gunrunner" a few months ago, but did not share the information (the story was a definite match). Problem at my end: I could not confirm the actresses name, because the TV station completely cut away the closing credits - they often do that here.
However, now I feel even more compelled to help. From the "unknown" episodes:
---
Record number: 51
Title: Deadly Games
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Cynthia Gibb

Description: Episode unknown.

Series regular Lauren Ashborne (Gibb) is tied down to railroad tracks, wrists tied in front of her, ankles together.
--
That is Episode 8 (or 1.8 if you prefer, there was only one season):
The Car Mechanic.

Note: A putz (DB-speak: guy :-) receives the same treatment and is tied alongside her.

--
Record number: 1497
Title: Dynasty
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Linda Evans
Description: Episode unknown
Krystal (Evans) is locked in the attic. At first her wrists are bound behind her back, and she is blindfolded but ungagged. She's wearing a blue robe Later, she is tape gagged, and then gagged with a thin black cloth.
--
The first, the blindfold scene, is in "The Titans", the gag scene (I only remember the cloth gag) is either in the same or possibly in one of the following two or three episodes - sorry I can't be more precise.

---
Records No. 5488
Title: Eurocops
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Unknown
Description: Episode unknown
Late 80s German police series had a scene where an unknown actress was placed in bondage.

Record number: 5612
Title: Eurocops
Medium: TV Series
Actress: unknown
Description: Episode unknown
In this long-running Eurovision series, there was an episode from Italy in which a damsel is tied to a bed (wrists tied to the headboard) and cleave-gagged with a scarf. She wears a nightie.
---
The latter is correct: Several European stations contributed episodes to this series. Since both entries probably refer to the same episode, I suggest deleting the first entry.

Happy new new year everyone - we here have less than 23 hours left in 2001.
Peter de K
Sunday December 30 20:10:54 2001
Duplicate entry
No. 2814 and 2889
Peter de K
Sunday December 30 20:12:29 2001
Correct Name
No. 5265: It's Hudson Leick, not Lieck.

Peter de K
Sunday December 30 20:21:43 2001
Re: Duplicate entry
> No. 2814 and 2889

Peter:
Got it
thanx for the assist here.

Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 20:24:42 2001
Another gap filled
Record number: 6211
Title: Black Room, The (1985)
Medium: Movie
Actress: Unknown, Clara Perryman

Description: I'm not sure about the wife's name (Clara Perryman) - could be played by someone else.
---
The unknown is Geanne Frank. The wife was indeed played by Ms. Perryman.

FYI: There are only 690 entries left with at least one unknown actress - now 689.

See ya next year
Peter de K
Petticoat@gmx.de
Sunday December 30 20:25:14 2001
Re: Correct Name
> No. 5265: It's Hudson Leick, not Lieck.

Peter:
Got it
thanx
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 20:29:28 2001
Re: Several additions
> My apologies: I watched and vidcapped "The Gunrunner" a
> few months ago, but did not share the information (the
> story was a definite match).

Peter de K:
If you mean Hawaii 5-0 (#680)?
Figure we got it.
Thanx for your assist.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 20:38:27 2001
Re: Several additions
> Record number: 51
> Title: Deadly Games
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Cynthia Gibb

> Records No. 5488
> Title: Eurocops
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Unknown

> Record number: 5612
> Title: Eurocops
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: unknown

Peter:
Got these,
thanx
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 20:43:28 2001
Re: Several additions
> Record number: 1497
> Title: Dynasty
> Medium: TV Series
> Actress: Linda Evans
> Description: Episode unknown
> Krystal (Evans) is locked in the attic. At first her
> wrists are bound behind her back, and she is blindfolded
> but ungagged. She's wearing a blue robe Later, she is
> tape gagged, and then gagged with a thin black cloth.
> --
> The first, the blindfold scene, is in "The Titans", the
> gag scene (I only remember the cloth gag) is either in
> the same or possibly in one of the following two or three
> episodes - sorry I can't be more precise.

Peter:
No problem,
using ep: Titans, to work around,
can go back to the fan-sites and check into the following ones.

Actually,
this series was abit of a bugger for me,
so appreciate your assistance.
Thanx
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 20:57:42 2001
Re: Another gap filled
> Record number: 6211
> Title: Black Room, The (1985)
> Medium: Movie
> Actress: Unknown, Clara Perryman

Peter:
Got it,
thanx again.

David:
IMDB lists this as 1984, not 1985.
So gave that a change too.
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
Sunday December 30 21:07:38 2001
Re: Bracken's World (#25 & # 4193)
> I'll probably go find the site and link it, for where I
> found the rough air-dates.
>
> Where I got
>
> (#25) ep: Fallen Fallen Is Babylon (1-10)?

David:
Here's one of them,
(Homepage Link)
if that will help confirm (#25) as (1-10)?

But not much assist for (#4193).
Anyway,
Figure you can judge if sounds accurate for US?
Jay L
kdnpr@yahoo.com
http://www.networksplus.net/caseyguy/Bracken.htm
Sunday December 30 23:36:01 2001
Re: Notes Part 3.
> Description: Episode: Big Bang Theory, prt 2 (3-33)
>
> Her hands are tied behind her back to the leg of a small
> sink in a laundry room. Tightly cleave gagged. Great
> close-ups and struggling.
>
>
> Was that really in Part 2? I thought that was in part 1
> of that cliffhanger ending.

It was in Part 1, Brian. I remember because I saw that episode when it ran for the first time.


Mr. RedViper
Sunday December 30 23:42:06 2001
Re: Notes Part 3.
> > This is a question:
> >
> >
> > Description: Episode: Big Bang Theory, prt 2 (3-33)
> >
> > Her hands are tied behind her back to the leg of a
> small
> > sink in a laundry room. Tightly cleave gagged. Great
> > close-ups and struggling.
> >
> >
> > Was that really in Part 2? I thought that was in part 1
>
> > of that cliffhanger ending.
>
> Epguides sez the action occurs in Part 2.
>

Epguides is wrong, although it first ran as a two-hour, so that might be why Brian remembers the cliffhanger as do I.


Mr. RedViper

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