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| Saturday December 29 00:14:29 2001 Re: Notes Part 3. |
| > This is a question:
> > > Description: Episode: Big Bang Theory, prt 2 (3-33) > > Her hands are tied behind her back to the leg of a small > sink in a laundry room. Tightly cleave gagged. Great > close-ups and struggling. > > > Was that really in Part 2? I thought that was in part 1 > of that cliffhanger ending. Epguides sez the action occurs in Part 2. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:16:39 2001 Re: Notes Part 4. |
| > I assume these are the same:
> > > Record #6392 > Title: The Finder (2001) > Medium: TV Movie > Actress: Unknown At The Moment > > Record #6420 > Title: Finder, The (2001) > Medium: TV Movie > Actress: Anja Coleby Somebody (Brian R., I guess) took care of this one. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:22:45 2001 Re: Notes Part 5. |
| > This:
> ... > is not a legal puncuation mark. If you mean the elipsis, > indicating missing text or passage of time, the mark is . > . . (.) four dots for the end of sentence. > > The ... has become popular for a sort of stream of > conciousness style of posting on message boards. I say > not only regular posters puttin them in, but also editors > adding them. I cleaned all of them out, 90% replaced by > commas or periods, the rest either removed altogether or > replaced by an actual elipsis. Er, when I was editing publications, "..." was used when eliminated from the middle of a sentence and "...." meant something was eliminated from the end of a sentence. I checked Elements of Style by Strunk and White and Elements of Editing by Arthur Plotnik and, while neither comments on the use of "..." and "....," they use both symbols throughout their publications. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:28:30 2001 Re: Notes Part 7. |
| > Another question one:
> > > Description: Episode: Push It (1-3) > > This episode had a scene where guest star Ms. Behr was > bound and gagged. > > > I remember this being in the two-hour pilot, so episode 3 > doesn't sound right. According to both Performers' Television Credits, 1948-2000 by David Inman and the IMDb, Ms. Behr's only Cobra credit was the episode "Push It." Now whether that's the third episode of the first season, I can't tell you. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:33:32 2001 Re: Notes Part 8. |
| > Someone changed all the entries from Friday the 13th
> from: > > Actress: Robey > Actress: Louise Robey > > Isn't she listed as "Robey" in the credits of the show? She's listed as Louise Robey in the IMDb. If somebody just put in Robey, they get a match, but if we eliminated "Louise" and the seeker entered Louise Robey, there wouldn't be a match. I suppose we could change it to "Louise Robey (aka Robey)," but that seems a little anal, even for me. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:43:17 2001 Re: Notes Part 11. |
| > The title of the Pamela Anderson series was all over the
> map. I think I went with V.I.P. aka VIP for all. I tried > to regularize many of the titles. > > Also, one editor was changing things like "The Master" to > "Master, The" and another editor was changing them the > other way. Don't work at cross-purposes. Since the first > way has the backing of the IMDB, so I went ahead and did > those changes. > > I don't really care, you guys come to a concensus, and do > it consistently. Another example of problems with initials is The F.B.I., er, F.B.I., The. Of course, the IMDb also has a series called Mancuso, FBI. Sheesh. Since the IMDb lists the article at the end of their titles, that's good enough for me. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:46:43 2001 Re: Notes Part 12. |
| > What's up with this?
> > < Actress: Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kathy > Najimy > --- > > Actress: Thora Birch > Same movie, one scene completely removed and replaced > with another? Did the first one not actually appear, or > did the editor somehow feel it should be removed? > > I combined the two. IIRC, somebody posted this as a Database correction. I haven't scene this movie all the way through, though. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 00:50:09 2001 Re: Notes Part 16. |
| > > Actress: Elizabeth Ashley, several extras
> > Several unknowns > > Several unknown > > > Let's come up with a consistent policy for on this. I > guess I lean towards the third. Call me picky, but according to my dictionary, the plural for unknown is unknowns. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 01:03:19 2001 Re: Notes Part 3. |
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> Epguides sez the action occurs in Part 2. Okey dokey. |
| Brian R |
| Saturday December 29 01:03:44 2001 Re: Notes Part 19. |
| > At least one editor spent a lot of time adding this to TV
> series: > > Description: Episode unknown > > I question the usefulness of that, but I went ahead and > put them back in anyway. > > However, one editor was changing episode titles to add > quotes around the title, and another was busily taking > them out. I didn't honor those changes unless something > else changed as well. > > Again, let's not work at cross-purposes. I suggest you > guys come up with a sample TV entry, and I can put it on > the posting page or something. I thought we came to an understanding on the "episode unknown" thing before, but here's my argument in favor of it. First, it emphasizes that more information is requested for this database entry. Second, we can sort on "episode unknown" and update scenes which are missing that title. I've been working through them with my reference books, as time permits. It's certainly easier looking for "episode unknown" then plowing throwing six and half thousand entries which may or may not be missing an episode title. As for the quotes around episode titles, I thought we had decided to put quotes around the episode titles because that's the IMDb format and more than half of the ones already in the database had quotes around them already. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 01:04:06 2001 Re: Notes Part 4. |
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> > Record #6392 > > Title: The Finder (2001) > > Record #6420 > > Title: Finder, The (2001) > Somebody (Brian R., I guess) took care of this one. Oh, yes. |
| Brian R |
| Saturday December 29 01:08:24 2001 Re: Notes Part 20. |
| > Title: Prisoner aka Captive Women; Prisoner: Cell Block
> Ha > > I'm sure the Ha was supposed to be H. I also didn't find > any indication that Captive Women was an alternated > title, but I didn't remove it either. According to the IMDb, one of the alternate title for Prisoner was Caged Women, not Captive Women. This sounds like one of mine, so either I'm an idiot and made the same mistake five times, or the IMDb changed their alternate title. Or maybe I'm and idiot _and_ the IMDb changed the title. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 01:11:32 2001 Re: Notes Part 5. |
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> Er, when I was editing publications, "..." was used when > eliminated from the middle of a sentence and "...." meant > something was eliminated from the end of a sentence. That's how I was taught the proper use of the ellipsis. Our classes (unless I'm going brainlock) showed it as . . . or . . . . At any rate, all have been changed to suit me at the moment. I perhaps made a miscall in this case, but that's the way it goes. |
| Brian R |
| Saturday December 29 01:15:42 2001 Re: Notes Part 7. |
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> According to both Performers' Television Credits, > 1948-2000 by David Inman and the IMDb, Ms. Behr's only > Cobra credit was the episode "Push It." Now whether > that's the third episode of the first season, I can't tell you. Yeah, that's episode 1.3. Sounds like my recollection was wrong. So we can leave it as is. |
| Brian R |
| Saturday December 29 01:21:01 2001 Re: Notes Part 22. |
| > > Ok, that's all I have for now.
> > Oh yeah, one more. I see a good deal of time was spent > correcting entries where people left the default TV > Series checked for Medium. Should I take the default > setting out of the form, and force the users to pick one? As someone who has screwed up more than his share, I vote for eliminating the TV series default and forcing us to select the medium. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 01:47:34 2001 Re: Notes Part 1. |
| > I noticed at least one of the editors was severely
> trimming out storyline context from the entries. > Sometimes this is appropriate, but a bit of story is good > for two reasons. One is to give a feel for the overall > scene, and whether the user will enjoy it. The other is > to help identify scenes for them, in grail searches and > such. > > > An example: > > > Description: Episode: "The Doctor is Out" > > The A-Team travels to South America in search of > Murdock's psychiatrist. They take along a woman who > claims to be his sister. Hannibal knows she's a phony, > though, and leaves her tied to a tree when they head into > action. She's not amused. > > > > Was changed to: > > > Description: Episode: The Doctor is Out (4-11) > > She's tied to a tree. > > > > There was nothing at all wrong with the first > description. I restored many of these types to the > original or a somewhat trimmed version rather than the bare-bones replacement. Brian: That was myself here. Figured the additional information was to help with IDing episode titles, and hence no longer needed. If David & yourself like it, no problem. Will leave them as is in future. |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 01:55:51 2001 Re: Notes Part 19. |
| > At least one editor spent a lot of time adding this to TV
> series: > > Description: Episode unknown > > I question the usefulness of that, but I went ahead and > put them back in anyway. > > However, one editor was changing episode titles to add > quotes around the title, and another was busily taking > them out. I didn't honor those changes unless something > else changed as well. > > Again, let's not work at cross-purposes. I suggest you > guys come up with a sample TV entry, and I can put it on > the posting page or something. Brian: One favour here? I would like to leave this, as it makes it easier to find ones that need additions in future. Was starting from top down, (search TV Series). Right now I have 16 scrap pages with eps to check into. BTW: I guess that makes myself that 'one' editor. |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 02:02:10 2001 Re: Notes Part 8. |
| > Someone changed all the entries from Friday the 13th
> from: > > Actress: Robey > Actress: Louise Robey > > Isn't she listed as "Robey" in the credits of the show? Brian R: Okay, Am trying to edit as they appear in US here. Part of this my fault, Louise Robey is a Canuck, and known here under that name. If she's just known in US as Robey, that's how the boy here will refer to her as well. |
| Jay(Fast Becoming The Boy Who Ruined Brian's Christmas) L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 02:14:28 2001 Re: Notes Part 2. |
| > One of the editors had a habit of changing any episode
> title that had "Part X" to "prt X". I couldn't figure the > rationale, it only saves one letter and is much less > clear, especially for the non-native English speakers > among us. I changed all those back. Brian: Got it. |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 02:36:08 2001 Re: David's Post |
| > At least one editor spent a lot of time adding this to TV > series: > > Description: Episode unknown > However, one editor was changing episode titles to add > quotes around the title, and another was busily taking > them out. "I thought we came to an understanding on the "episode unknown" thing before, but here's my argument in favor of it. First, it emphasizes that more information is requested for this database entry. Second, we can sort on "episode unknown" and update scenes which are missing that title. I've been working through them with my reference books, as time permits. It's certainly easier looking for "episode unknown" then plowing throwing six and half thousand entries which may or may not be missing an episode title." This was better put. So, (Re: One Favour?), wouldn't mind if this was left as is. "As for the quotes around episode titles, I thought we had decided to put quotes around the episode titles because that's the IMDb format and more than half of the ones already in the database had quotes around them already." David: Believe there was a post wanting without quote marks. But, If Brian & yourself want quotes? Can work on getting them back in. Let me know what you want to do on this? Thanx |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 03:00:53 2001 Re: David & Brian, Entry 5481 |
| > Another question one: > > > Description: Episode: Push It (1-3) > > This episode had a scene where guest star Ms. Behr was > bound and gagged. > > I remember this being in the two-hour pilot, so episode 3 > doesn't sound right. "According to both Performers' Television Credits, 1948-2000 by David Inman and the IMDb, Ms. Behr's only Cobra credit was the episode "Push It." Now whether that's the third episode of the first season, I can't tell you." David & Brian: I got the (1-3) from using the episode title Push It on a Cobra series fan-site. Actually, got all the Cobra series entries from that site. Not familiar with the Cobra series, So let me know if the other entries sound amiss as well. Thanx |
| Jay L |
| Saturday December 29 03:07:19 2001 Re: David & Brian, Entry 5481 |
| > I got the (1-3) from using the episode title Push It on a
> Cobra series fan-site. > > Actually, got all the Cobra series entries from that > site. David: Here's one, (Homepage Link). Let me know what you think here? Thanx |
| Jay L |
| http://members.aol.com/IJBall3/WWW/Cobra/Guide.html |
| Saturday December 29 05:35:55 2001 Re: Notes Part 12 |
| "What's up with this? Actress: Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kathy Najimy Description: They're playing three witches who are tied to posts and burnt at stake (luckily, the latter isn't shown). No gags, short scene. Actress: Thora Birch Description: Thora Birch is first handgagged by Najimy, I believe(but I could be wrong) in a closet, and is later tied to a chair. No gag, but she does manage to insult Midler and struggles quite a bit. Same movie, one scene completely removed and replaced with another? Did the first one not actually appear, or did the editor somehow feel it should be removed?" Brian: There was a problem reported with the first 3 ladies in a post. Figure I may have misread it here? Here's the post: Dec 01 04:23:30 2001 Entry Correction "I came across this while looking through the database looking for something else, and it is wrong.. Record number: 2298 Title: Hocus Pocus (1993) Medium: Movie Actress: Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kathy Najimy Description: They're playing three witches who are tied to posts and burnt at stake (luckily, the latter isn't shown). No gags, short scene. ---------------------------------------------------------- First off, Bette, SJP and Najimy are hung, not burnt at the stake. Secondly, Thora Birch is first handgagged by Najimy, I believe(but I could be wrong) in a closet, and is later tied to a chair. No gag, but she does manage to insult Midler and struggles quite a bit. Figured with no 'burnt at the stake' scene, Buddy who entered it may have mistaken this film with another? Why I took it out. |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 08:06:41 2001 Re: David & Brian, Entry 5481 |
| > > I got the (1-3) from using the episode title Push It on
> a > > Cobra series fan-site. > > > > Actually, got all the Cobra series entries from that > > site. > > David: > Here's one, (Homepage Link). > Let me know what you think here? > Thanx Jay, Works for me. You'd think there would be a link at the series' IMDb entry, wouldn't you.... |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 08:17:08 2001 Re: David's Post |
| > "As for the quotes around episode titles, I thought we
> had decided to put quotes around the episode titles > because that's the IMDb format and more than half of the > ones already in the database had quotes around them > already." > > > David: > > Believe there was a post wanting without quote marks. > But, if Brian & yourself want quotes? Can work on getting > them back in. > > Let me know what you want to do on this? Aieee! I musta missed that post, or I'd have jumped on it with both feet. Actually, whether we use quotes around episode names or not, I just want to be consistent throughout the database. There seemed to be more episode names with quotes than without, which is why I started changing the offending entries, er, the one's without quotes. Mebbe we need a Database style manual. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 08:18:41 2001 Re: Notes Part 12 |
| > "What's up with this?
> > > > Actress: Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kathy Najimy > > Description: They're playing three witches who are tied > to posts and burnt at stake (luckily, the latter isn't > shown). No gags, short scene. > > > > Actress: Thora Birch > > Description: Thora Birch is first handgagged by Najimy, I > believe(but I could be wrong) in a closet, and is later > tied to a chair. No gag, but she does manage to insult > Midler and struggles quite a bit. > > > > > Same movie, one scene completely removed and replaced > with another? Did the first one not actually appear, or > did the editor somehow feel it should be removed?" > > > > Brian: > > There was a problem reported with the first 3 ladies in a > post. > > Figure I may have misread it here? > > > > Here's the post: > > > > Dec 01 04:23:30 2001 > > Entry Correction > > > > "I came across this while looking through the database > looking for something else, and it is wrong.. > > > > Record number: 2298 > > > > Title: Hocus Pocus (1993) > > Medium: Movie > > Actress: Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kathy Najimy > > > > Description: They're playing three witches who are tied > to posts and burnt at stake (luckily, the latter isn't > shown). No gags, short scene. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > First off, Bette, SJP and Najimy are hung, not burnt at > the stake. Secondly, Thora Birch is first handgagged by > Najimy, I believe(but I could be wrong) in a closet, and > is later tied to a chair. No gag, but she does manage to > insult Midler and struggles quite a bit. > > > > Figured with no 'burnt at the stake' scene, > > Buddy who entered it may have mistaken this film with another? Why I took it out. Let's post it on the discussion page and see if we can get a consensus. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 08:25:20 2001 Re: Notes Part 8. |
| > > Someone changed all the entries from Friday the 13th
> > from: > > > > Actress: Robey > > Actress: Louise Robey > > > > Isn't she listed as "Robey" in the credits of the > show? > > Brian R: > Okay, > Am trying to edit as they appear in US here. > > Part of this my fault, > Louise Robey is a Canuck, > and known here under that name. > If she's just known in US as Robey, > that's how the boy here will refer to her as well. Robey's "official" website is louiserobey.com -- sounds like a hint to me. Anyway, didn't Robey bill herself as Louise Robey in Friday the Thirteenth's first season? Or have I visitng the eggnog bowl too much this week? |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 08:27:38 2001 Re: Notes Part 12 |
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>Let's post it on the discussion page and see if we can get a consensus. Sorry, I thought I deleted the excess material. My bad. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 11:59:07 2001 Re: David's Post |
| Re: Quotes around episode titles > David: > > Believe there was a post wanting without quote marks. > But, if Brian & yourself want quotes? "Aieee! I musta missed that post, or I'd have jumped on it with both feet." I've been trying to search for that post. I was quoting the episode title, till I read the post. Haven't been, and editing them out when I'm in the entries since. "Actually, whether we use quotes around episode names or not, I just want to be consistent throughout the database. There seemed to be more episode names with quotes than without, which is why I started changing the offending entries, er, the one's without quotes." I see, Figured you weren't, and was just coming across earlier entries we hadn't gotten to yet. :) |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 12:41:14 2001 Re: Notes Part 8. (Louise Robey) |
| > > Robey's "official" website is louiserobey.com -- sounds
> like a hint to me. > > Anyway, didn't Robey bill herself as Louise Robey in > Friday the Thirteenth's first season? Or have I visitng > the eggnog bowl too much this week? David: Can't recall off-hand, the first season credits. Have been trying to figure and go with, US titles and names. Said before, Even most of the fellas that use the Canadian VHS machine alerts are in the US. :) So, Her US name is fine with me. |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 13:15:23 2001 Re: Notes Part 8. (Louise Robey) |
| > Her US name is fine with me.
Actually, I'd rather go with Louise Robey. |
| David |
| Saturday December 29 18:28:45 2001 Re: David, TV Series Fan Sites |
| > > I got the (1-3) from using the episode title Push It on > a > > Cobra series fan-site. > Let me know what you think here? > Thanx "Jay, Works for me. You'd think there would be a link at the series' IMDb entry, wouldn't you...." There is a few more I've been working on from TV show fan-sites. If you figure they sound accurate, then we can use it to fill some of the holes? Record number: 1889 Title: Kojak Medium: TV Series Actress: Jean Lapierre Description: Episode: Unknown Chief Detective McNeil's wife has been kidnapped to prevent him from interfering with a crime. Kojak's men rescue her from an abandoned warehouse at the end of the episode. She's tied to a chair and gagged with a piece of clear tape. Short scene. Okay, A fan-site had a wife kidnapped description for: Kojak, ep: Trade-Off (#46, 2-23) IMDB has ep: Trade-Off as (1-23) Problem is, don't recall this ep when CKVR channel aired this show recent? So can't confirm. Also, fansite had Jean Le Bouvier not Jean Lapierre credited as playing character Lillian McNeil. IMDB has Jean Le Bouvier listed as credited with ep: Trade-Off (1-23) Couldn't find Jean Lapierre listed in IMDB What do you think here? Figure rough same or different ep? (Lot of conflicting info huh?) Thanx |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
| Saturday December 29 18:41:42 2001 Re: Fan-sites & Unknowns? |
| Record number: 680 Title: Hawaii Five-0 Medium: TV Series Actress: Marian McCargo Description: She's been kidnapped for ransom, and is kept tied to a chair and blindfolded. No gag. Wasn't able to find much on searching under Marian McCargo. But recall when this series aired on CKVR channel awhile back, these two ep descriptions from fan-site sounded familiar. ep: Which Way Did They Go? (2-14) ep: The Gunrunner (3-20) What do you think? Thanx |
| Jay L |
| kdnpr@yahoo.com |
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