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| Sunday August 28 00:18:59 2022 Prop men |
| When an actress is bound and gagged in a movie or television show, then do we all agree that her bondage is usually the work of a member of the production crew? I mean, how many actors can tie knots and fashion ropework so intricate? Unless we see an actress actually being bound and gagged on screen, is it safe to assume that she was bound and gagged by a member of the crew? I wonder how much discretion members of the crew are given when they are instructed to bind and gag an actress? How precise are the instructions? Does the script merely say, for example, "Alexandria Daddario is bound and gagged", or are the restraint and type of gag specified? |
| Hadji |
| Sunday August 28 01:00:51 2022 Re: Prop men |
| If anyone has actual information on the topic, you can post it. If it's just speculation or wishing, then no. |
| The Moderator |
| Sunday August 28 01:48:19 2022 Alaska Daily |
| Upcoming ABC series shows Hilary Swank, playing a newspaper reporter, looking at some "Missing" posters of young women. So the show certainly could produce a scene or two - though of course there's no guarantee. |
| Sunday August 28 02:36:53 2022 Re: Alaska Daily |
| On August 28 2022 (unsigned poster) wrote: > Upcoming ABC series shows Hilary Swank, playing a > newspaper reporter, looking at some "Missing" > posters of young women. So the show certainly could > produce a scene or two - though of course there's no guarantee. Wow, this would automatically be in the must record category. Swank looks great as the snooping reporter with Grace Dove as her sexy sidekick. Think Swank is also producer for whatever that’s worth. One or both of these reporters should…repeat should… find themselves in ropes and gags. |
| Sunday August 28 02:39:19 2022 Re: Prop men |
| On August 28 2022 Hadji wrote: > When an actress is bound and gagged in a movie or > television show, then do we all agree that her bondage is > usually the work of a member of the production crew? I > mean, how many actors can tie knots and fashion ropework > so intricate? Unless we see an actress actually being > bound and gagged on screen, is it safe to assume that she > was bound and gagged by a member of the crew? I wonder > how much discretion members of the crew are given when > they are instructed to bind and gag an actress? How > precise are the instructions? Does the script merely say, > for example, "Alexandria Daddario is bound and > gagged", or are the restraint and type of gag specified? Film major here who has studied the making of movies and directed/written scripts. Answer to the first question, usually yes, unless the script calls for it to be on screen as you mentioned, and then if the scene is short enough they may just leave it. The other possibility is that some directors are also very hands on with everything, and may do it themselves in order to ensure that their vision is fulfilled. The director of Funny Games is a good example of this. And for your second question, when writing scripts one of the major rules is to be specific but only include the necessary details. Bogging down your script with pointless details is, well, pointless. But you should get what you want across. So for example, here's a script excerpt of the recent scene in Dune: Paul and Jessica are immobilized. Ankles bound. Hands tied behind them. Jessica still gagged. They look in horror at the devastation of Arrakeen. The impossible multitude of Harkonnen troops and warships. Very simple and quick, but gets everything needed in the scene across. In this particular scene, what the bindings and gag are made of isn't really important, although I'm sure they made an effort to cover her entire mouth given the context of what she could do with it. But other than that, how they were bound and if they were gagged is all that was needed in the script. In contrast, if a script calls for a specific gag, or a specific binding material, for whatever reason, then that would naturally be included. It's up to the screenwriter and the scene at the end of the day. I hope this answers your questions. |
| Sunday August 28 02:43:43 2022 Re: Prop men |
| On August 28 2022 (unsigned poster) wrote: > In contrast, if a script calls for a specific gag, or a > specific binding material, for whatever reason, then that > would naturally be included. It's up to the screenwriter and the scene at the end of the day. Edit: Meant to say if a scene* calls for so and so, then it would be included in the script, sorry. |
| Sunday August 28 02:50:46 2022 Re: Prop men |
| On August 28 2022 Hadji wrote: This having all been said, it's an unofficial rule, not a strictly enforced one or anything. That's the beauty of independent writing: the freedom. If a screenwriter were one of us, and especially if they were the director as well, then they can definitely be as specific as they want to be if they so please. It definitely isn't the norm though. |
| Sunday August 28 04:45:30 2022 Re: Prop men |
| > Edit: Meant to say if a scene* calls for so and so, then > it would be included in the script, sorry. This is from the script of one of our favourite musicals: "(Lights cross to the rebel hideout. HOPE sits bound to a chair and gagged. THE POOR are becoming increasingly anxious.)" And: "The secret hideout. THE POOR guard HOPE, still bound to the chair and gagged. All wait anxiously for BOBBY to return." |
| Sunday August 28 07:50:45 2022 Re: Prop men |
| On August 28 2022 Hadji wrote: > When an actress is bound and gagged in a movie or > television show, then do we all agree that her bondage is > usually the work of a member of the production crew? I > mean, how many actors can tie knots and fashion ropework > so intricate? Unless we see an actress actually being > bound and gagged on screen, is it safe to assume that she > was bound and gagged by a member of the crew? I wonder > how much discretion members of the crew are given when > they are instructed to bind and gag an actress? How ; As a filmmaker who has done everything on set from production assistant to script supervisor to director, the job of tying the prtson up usually would fall to the prop master. The director has overall oversight on how to interpret the script since script are usually vague on simple actions so it usually left to the prop master or maybe set designer or art director. I was working on a film where a someone was to be tied up. I was doing a job unrelated to that aspect, but no one on set had any idea how to bind someone and it woulda looked ridiculous if i hadn't voiced a few tips. When it comes down to it, a lot of filmmakers aren't concerned with tying someone up legitimately. Just enough so the viewer gets the point. Its frustrating for us on this page, but a lot of times the reason we don't get effective tying-up is due to it being overkill for film's sake, too long and difficult on the talent, inexperienced prop masters. I guess that variation in outcome is what makes this community both fun AND frustrating. As a side note, if my latest script goes into production and I direct, y'all gonna be happy. Cheers! |
| Sunday August 28 07:58:27 2022 Re: Prop men |
| Another aspect of this I wonder is does the director or prop master choose the gag for the damsel? I wonder if the writer or director has in mind what he wants the damsel to be gagged with or if it's just something the prop person or whatnot comes up with out of the blue and they just roll with it. |
| Sunday August 28 09:33:54 2022 Re: Prop men |
| Sunday August 28 09:39:24 2022 Re: Prop men |
| And for Annihilation https://i.imgur.com/XJCBt1o.png https://i.imgur.com/utltCZB.png |
| Sunday August 28 10:21:58 2022 Alaska Leigh |
| Retweets a B&G pic https://twitter.com/LMN/status/1563315440377421824 |
| Sunday August 28 13:30:12 2022 Re: Avery Konrad in FROM Ep 6 season 1 |
| On August 27 2022 Sam wrote: > On August 21 2022 baltiman wrote: > > Two brief scenes within the first 15-20 mins of this > cute > > actress cleave gagged and tied to a chair in this > new > > horror/fantasy show. > Was there a capture sequence in the previous ep? Skimmed > thru but can't find any. no capture scene.the guy who is holding her captive says that she has run off into the woods |
| baltiman |
| Sunday August 28 15:20:22 2022 old black and white tv series/movie |
| hi, can someone help with the name of this series/movie: a man and a woman are cuffed together and running from some bad guys or police and the woman has an ankle injury and the guy cleave gags her pick here up and carries her away to a shed where he then starts to saw off the chain |
| tom brown |
| Sunday August 28 16:38:27 2022 Re: old black and white tv series/movie |
| It's from The Fugitive S03 E19 starring Shirley Knight who also gets handgagged frequently throughout the episode. |
| Sunday August 28 21:19:44 2022 Unknown during VMAs performance |
| In a throwback to her appearance in the “Monster” music where she was fake tied up (it was really Blac Chyna), Nicki Minaj danced on a bound and gagged woman during her VMAs performance. The catch of this scene now including a gag is the bondage isn’t as great |
| Sunday August 28 21:31:53 2022 Re: old black and white tv series/movie |
| The entire Fugitive episode can be easily found online. What a neat little scene! Shirley Knight is gorgeous and she gets a nice on-screen cleave which is very tight in some shots. Handgags galore too. Had never seen this before. Classic DiD action! |
| Sunday August 28 21:41:53 2022 Re: Prop men |
| On August 28 2022 (unsigned poster) wrote: > And for Annihilation > https://i.imgur.com/XJCBt1o.png > https://i.imgur.com/utltCZB.png There was a behind the scenes set photo of a prop guy holding a roll of duct tape as Jessica Biel was standing in front of him in the movie "Next." I can't seem to find the photo but clearly recall it being out there. |
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