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Welcome to the Discussion page. This forum is for discussing scenes from mainstream sources, primarily TV shows and movies, but we venture off into newspaper and magazine articles, stage plays, and other areas. Please do not post regarding commercial videos.
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| Thursday August 25 01:43:16 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Bayonet wrote: > I like the strong and determined damsels who are annoyed > when gagged. The one that springs to mind is Renee O'Connor in Xena, episode "Blind Faith", who glares at her captor after he pours something over her cleavage while she was tightly gagged; http://images.movieplayer.it/2010/08/25/renee-o-connor-in-xena-e-il-matrimonio-di-olimpia-172784_medium.jpg |
| Gaz P |
| Thursday August 25 10:50:27 2011 Re: Real Life Families of actresses being in distress |
| Hadji wrote: > "superfluous" scenes featuring beautiful struggling > actresses who are bound and gagged. IIRC The CSIs were puzzled because they had a blood spray/splatter pattern that indicated two victims, but all the blood was identical. I think that the scene was a very good way to explain everything, just glad that they used twin gals instead of twin guys. |
| Jacot |
| Thursday August 25 11:30:09 2011 New Paula Peril |
| Found a great gagged picture of Valerie Perez as Paula Peril from their Faceboom page. Looks awesome to me at least. |
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| Henry Fool |
| Thursday August 25 12:31:24 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| Henry Fool wrote: > Found a great gagged picture of Valerie Perez as Paula > Peril from their Faceboom page. Looks awesome to me at > least. Took a look at that pic and thought, Wow, what an amazingly thick, knotted cleave for a mainstream film... oh, wait. That's Paula Peril. No knock on the Paula Peril series, but it's definitely not what I would define as mainstream media. It's a series that exists specifically for bondage scenes (thus the name). You'll never see a PP film without bondage. It's well done and Paula's a honey, but these are bondage flicks wrapped in a little extra story and production values, not mystery movies that might happen to have occasional bondage scenes. Again, not knocking 'em at all. Glad they exist. But they're like FM Concepts vids to me, not something mainstream. |
| Miss Cleo |
| Thursday August 25 12:55:30 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Gaz P wrote: > Bayonet wrote: > > I like the strong and determined damsels who are > annoyed > > when gagged. That's one reason I think a lot of scenes over the past few years are better, in a certain way, than the "classic" ones. It's one way that gender equality and treating women as equals in mystery and action has been a boon for us. We don't see many scenes anymore where a female hostage just sits around doe-eyed, waiting for rescue from the hero. To the contrary, modern heroines tend to fight back or try to get crafty and escape. There's a REASON they need to be tied up: If you DON'T tie them up, they might get away... or kick your ass! |
| Miss Cleo |
| Thursday August 25 13:22:21 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Miss Cleo wrote: > We don't see many scenes anymore where a female hostage > just sits around doe-eyed, waiting for rescue from the > hero. Really? I think most mainstream scenes (especially on the CSI-type shows) still feature mainly helpless damsels who just whimper & cry until they get rescued. The proactive, clever, annoyed variety seems quite rare. |
| Sam |
| Thursday August 25 13:41:53 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Sam wrote: > Really? I think most mainstream scenes (especially on the > CSI-type shows) still feature mainly helpless damsels who > just whimper & cry until they get rescued. The > proactive, clever, annoyed variety seems quite rare. Fair point, Sam. I suppose it depends on the type of show. The police procedural shows do tend to be the type with super-scary, violent antagonists capturing far more vulnerable victims, so they're understandably less likely to fight back. I was thinking more of the less "realistic" shows, the ones where victims never (or rarely) get killed, more common on your USA/FX/Syfy shows. That said, there was one of those shows recently ("Flashpoint") that had a mom and daughter in the back of a van, and as I recall, the mom was very proactive despite her treatment, getting to her cell phone, making a call, etc. She wasn't just lying there, resigned to her fate. I think 15 years ago, it's much more likely that she just chills. |
| Miss Cleo |
| Thursday August 25 13:52:16 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Miss Cleo wrote: > That said, there was one of those shows recently > ("Flashpoint") that had a mom and daughter in > the back of a van, and as I recall, the mom was very > proactive despite her treatment, getting to her cell > phone, making a call, etc. She wasn't just lying there, > resigned to her fate. I think 15 years ago, it's much more likely that she just chills. Ah, then I can your see point. In the case of that scene (or the similar one with Eva LaRue), they weren't just the typical old school doe-eyed damsels doing nothing. Even when scared & shaken up, they still tried hard to escape. But....... They weren't annoyed & pissed off, either. ;-) |
| Sam |
| Thursday August 25 13:56:06 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Sam wrote: > But....... They weren't annoyed & pissed off, either. ;-) OK, ya got me there. :) |
| Miss Cleo |
| Thursday August 25 14:08:04 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Miss Cleo wrote: > Sam wrote: > > But....... They weren't annoyed & pissed off, > either. ;-) > OK, ya got me there. :) Then again, it's not like I'm actually EXPECTING the damsels in a scene like the Flashpoint one, or the CSIs, to be pissed off. For realism purposes, they're obviously going to be petrified & scared out of their minds. Hell, if they weren't, the scene itself (from a non-DiD perspective) wouldn't have worked. I like good visuals as much as anyone, but the scene really should work believably within the context of the show. Sasha Alexander in NCIS, however, had a reason to be annoyed & it worked. She was the clever cop, now held captive because of her own mistake, completely unable to do anything about it except struggle & mmpphh. Just perfect. The more I think about it, I wouldn't hesitate to list it as my #3 favourite scene of all time. Which means that's my top 3 set in stone. Cool..... |
| Sam |
| Thursday August 25 17:00:32 2011 Re: Real Life Families of actresses being in distress |
| Jacot wrote: > Hadji wrote: > > "superfluous" scenes featuring beautiful > struggling > > actresses who are bound and gagged. > IIRC > The CSIs were puzzled because they had a blood > spray/splatter pattern that indicated two victims, but > all the blood was identical. > I think that the scene was a very good way to explain > everything, just glad that they used twin gals instead of twin guys. Thank you for the explanation. The scene featuring the bound and gagged hot twin sisters was not superfluous, then, but instead necessary to explain the incongruity that confounded the CSIs. I was so elated after seeing two beautiful blonde twin sisters bound and gagged together that I didn't listen to any of the dialogue in the subsequent scene. Because of this scene, two struggling but hot actresses became a favorite discussion topic on an online forum. I wonder whether they're aware of their fame, or rather, infamy? |
| Hadji |
| Thursday August 25 17:24:48 2011 Re: Possible Rachel Nichols |
| Dumb question, but does anyone know if the scene with Rachel Nichols from Conan has been posted anywhere? I know the movie is in theaters, but I saw a "sexy" scene from this movie on another forum, so it is out there. |
| Stanley |
| Thursday August 25 17:49:30 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| Sam wrote: > The proactive, clever, annoyed variety seems quite rare. Missy Peregrym in Reaper was pissed off. |
| Thursday August 25 17:50:48 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| Miss Cleo wrote: > Again, not knocking 'em at all. Glad they exist. But > they're like FM Concepts vids to me, not something mainstream. They are done with professional actors and directors (maybe not with a Hollywood level budget) but equating the Paula Peril movies with fetish producers like FM is just amazingly inaccurate. |
| Snowcat |
| Thursday August 25 18:19:37 2011 Re: annoyed damsels |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > Missy Peregrym in Reaper was pissed off. Nahhh, more like scared witless. |
| Sam |
| Thursday August 25 18:29:19 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| Henry Fool wrote: > Found a great gagged picture of Valerie Perez as Paula > Peril from their Faceboom page. Looks awesome to me at > least. Looks awesome period. Great shot. Great gag. Great fun. The studio clearly "gets it" |
| carl |
| carlcowboys@yahoo.com |
| Thursday August 25 18:33:27 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| > They are done with professional actors and directors maybe not with a Hollywood level budget) but equating the Paula Peril movies with fetish producers like FM is just amazingly inaccurate. ~~~~ I agree. Open call casting auditions were held for the "Paula Peril" roles, and one of the major stumbling blocks towards completion of the project was running out of money. Unlike a fetish film that counts on being shot in one day(or at most, two days), "Paula Peril" had been targeted for weeks of filming, and included one of those expensive-to-shoot scenes with Linda Perez swimming underwater. Yes, Paula gets tied up by various bad guys, but it's as a consequence of her snooping around as an investigative reporter -- just as I think few would term the seven "Paula Peril" comic books as "Fetish" simply because she winds up B&g'd in a Lois Lane-type death traps for a few pages over an entire episode. |
| J.T. |
| Thursday August 25 18:54:45 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| > I agree. Open call casting auditions were held for the > "Paula Peril" roles, and one of the major > stumbling blocks towards completion of the project was > running out of money. > Unlike a fetish film that counts on being shot in one > day(or at most, two days), "Paula Peril" had > been targeted for weeks of filming, and included one of > those expensive-to-shoot scenes with Linda Perez swimming > underwater. Yeah I agree, these aren't commercial films. I've seen all of them, and while there's B&G scenes, they actually compromise the distinct minority of the film. A fetish film usually has over 80% of the material being the damsel. The Paula Peril series is about 80% plot, 20% DID (if that!). |
| Not a Guest |
| Thursday August 25 19:55:53 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| Snowcat wrote: > They are done with professional actors and directors > (maybe not with a Hollywood level budget) but equating > the Paula Peril movies with fetish producers like FM is > just amazingly inaccurate. Um, right. It's a lot more accurate than equating them to actual films, which is amazingly naive. The Paula Peril films exist for one reason, to have the lead character in peril throughout and to have her (and/or other hotties) get bound and gagged at least a couple of times. The percentage of the film in which Paula's B&G might be much less than in unabashed fetish films such as those produced by FM, but it's the same general concept. No one watches Paula Peril films for comedy, drama, thrills, etc. No one rents/buys/views them except for people with our interests. People watch them to enjoy her being bound and gagged. That's it. Actual mainstream shows/series might get their heroines tied up a lot (Avengers, She Spies, V.I.P., etc.), with a wink and a nod toward people's fetishes, but they don't have their heroines bound and gagged every episode. You'll never see a Paula Peril film where Paula's not in peril. It exists solely for that purpose. It's not mainstream. It's fetish. |
| Miss Cleo |
| Thursday August 25 20:01:13 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| > You'll never see a Paula Peril film where Paula's not in > peril. It exists solely for that purpose. It's not mainstream. It's fetish. That's funny. Because there IS one film in the series where she's not B&G. |
| Thursday August 25 20:17:04 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > > You'll never see a Paula Peril film where Paula's > not in > > peril. It exists solely for that purpose. It's not > mainstream. It's fetish. > That's funny. Because there IS one film in the series > where she's not B&G. Is there anyone who is not 'one of us' who has ever heard of these films? If there is, doesn't it seem likely their response would be 'seems like an excuse for some bondage footage.' |
| ss |
| Thursday August 25 20:29:22 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| (unsigned poster) wrote: > That's funny. Because there IS one film in the series > where she's not B&G. Which one? And is there no female bondage in it? Do tell. |
| Miss Cleo |
| Thursday August 25 20:43:12 2011 Re: New Paula Peril |
| I tend to agree more with Miss Cleo, but people seem to like these so I allow them (just barely) so let's move on. |
| The Moderator |
| Thursday August 25 21:53:31 2011 UK Series 'Doctors' |
| Pics from B&G scene |
| http://www.digitalspy.ca/soaps/s16/doctors/i357965/doctors-week-34-220811-260811-cherry-and-jimmi.html |
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