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Monday August 22 00:08:34 2011
Re: Possible Rachel Nichols
Mel wrote:

> Can anyone think of any other scenes where a damsel is
> tied hands behind on a horse?

Record number: 355

Title: Mysterious Doctor Satan (1940)
Medium: Movie Serial
Actress: Ella Neal, Dorothy Herbert

Description: Chapter 1: Alice Brent (Herbert) has been kidnapped by Doctor Satan to force her father to reveal a secret formula. She's shown in a barn with her wrists bound behind her back and ankles ropes. In a truly inventive scene, Alice manages to shed her ankle bindings and, after fruitlessly trying to open the door, she climbs on the back of a horse (conveniently saddled and bitted), grabs the reins in her teeth and she and horse leap through a huge glass window with wrists bound behind and chomping on the reins. Later, she's shown cantering down the side of the road still tied.
Anubis
http://www.didvids.net
Monday August 22 00:13:45 2011
German commercial - Zalando
Recently discussed on Video page, company's website has a couple of small 'Making of' photos with one featuring the lovely lady in the red dress.
http://www.zalando.de/lp-bankraub/
Monday August 22 01:50:46 2011
Re: Rose McGowan
Ch wrote:
> I caught her emaciated and botoxed appearance on
> "Chelsea Lately" talking about her role in
> "Conan" (her altered face barely moved), about
> how the part was written for a man and she prefers
> playing roles that 'are not the helpless babe'.

I expect she thinks she is a "talented actress" (stifles laugh) above such things and accepted the part in Charmed as it reminded her of a tragic Shakespeare heroine.
Gaz P
Monday August 22 02:26:55 2011
Liv Tyler Interview
http://www.uinterview.com/videos/liv-tyler

The link is to a clip of a Liv Tyler Interview talking about "The Ledge." She says, "I'm tied to a chair and I have a gag in my mouth" and talks about liking the scene.
Monday August 22 03:22:17 2011
Passions
The scene were sheridan crane is blindfolded and tape gagged.
Sam Steffen
steffen1223@aol.com
Monday August 22 09:11:06 2011
handcuffs by Marc Jacobs
(price on request)
From T, The New York Times fashion magazine.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/08/21/t-magazine/21trends-dress/21trends-dress-custom2.jpg
ss
Monday August 22 10:15:01 2011
Re: Seven of Nine
Mic wrote:

> This picture came up on a site...that refers to Jeri Ryan
>

I think it would be all over the Internet if Jeri Ryan had worked with Restrained Elegance.

Actresses have been known to have private portfolios where they pose in scenes that just appeal to them for some reason.

Years ago on one of those celebrity talk shows June Lockhart talked about the problems she had with the photographer while doing a private slavegirl photo shoot.

Perhaps this is one of those.

And yes, this was the June Lockhart best known as the MOM on "Lassie"
Jacot
Monday August 22 11:51:11 2011
Re: request for kill kill overkill
Punk wrote:
> does anybody know where i can find an old movie called
> kill kill overkill (AKA twisted fate)?

I got very lucky on a google search sometime last year. I don't recall how I did it but I basically lucked into it.
Scott Shaw is a consulting producer and he sells all of his movies on his website on DVD. I bought the DVD and the quality is VHS Transfer to DVD. I bought a copy and have no complaints because it's VERY HARD to find a copy of the movie in any format. I tried to purchase a used VHS copy over five years ago and the vendor told me they discovered the VHS Tape had fallen apart.
I know this belongs in another forum but for expediency here's the website and decide for yourself. Scroll down three fourths of the way and it's there.

http://www.scottshaw.com/films.html

Nite Owl
Monday August 22 12:10:52 2011
Mi Pecado - alert
The Telefutura re-airing of "Mi Pecado" is in its final chapters so it should be coming up to the scene where its lead actress, Maite Perroni, gets chloroformed and bound and cleave-gagged. "Mi Pecado" is airing weekdays at 8:00 a.m. CT on Telefutura.
Dextor
Monday August 22 15:01:47 2011
Re: Seven of Nine
Jacot wrote:

> ...Years ago on one of those celebrity talk shows June
Lockhart talked about the problems she had with the
photographer while doing a private slavegirl photo shoot.
...And yes, this was the June Lockhart best known as the MOM on "Lassie"

Hello! Did she say what the photoshoot was for (or whom)? She was cute in her early days before the TV work.
Ch
Monday August 22 15:08:10 2011
Rizzoli & Isles alert (?)
Caught a quick overhead clip of what appears to be a damsel/sacrifice tied to a tree in the center of a burning pentagram; appeared to be blonde, perhaps Isles finally getting a scene.

Unfortunately it appears to be stereotypical lame one rope tied many times around the middle bondage usually featured in occult oriented films so this may only be for completists.

And yes, I'm making sure it's on the alerts page.
Ch
Monday August 22 16:12:37 2011
Re: Rizzoli & Isles alert (?)
Ch wrote:

> Caught a quick overhead clip of what appears to be a
> damsel/sacrifice tied to a tree in the center of a
> burning pentagram; appeared to be blonde, perhaps Isles

Didn't see it, but Isles is more or a redhead than blonde, so I'd guess guest star, likely the start of the episode.
Monday August 22 16:15:35 2011
Re: Rizzoli & Isles alert (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Sasha more strawberry blonde at this point. Long shift
> from her black hair on NSIS.
> She is definitely in need of a new gag scene.

Sorry for that image post.


Monday August 22 16:28:05 2011
Re: Possible Rachel Nichols
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> > Can anyone think of any other scenes where a damsel
> > is tied hands behind on a horse?
> I remember the great Ursula Andress being bound and
> gagged on a horse in an old western movie but I can't
> remember if her hands were tied behind her.
Would imagine that you're thinking of "Red Sun." Pretty sure her hands were in front while on the horse and gagged. Later after an "escape" she gets her hands tied behind her, and the gag is off. Pretty dangerous for someone to be on a horse with their hands tied behind them, which may be why it didn't happen more often in the thousands of Westerns made. If it's a stunt person and the hands are "tied" to where they can be immediately pulled loose, it's not real deadly I guess, but you can never predict animal behavior and people can get dumped in an instant.
I remember watching an interview with Claudia Cardinale on the dvd of "The Professionals" where she talked about doing her own stunt where her horse was racing with her on its back with her hands tied in front and then the horse went down after an explosion. Not sure if it was true. Seems an insane risk for a leading lady who according to her had never ridden a horse before that movie. But anyway she said the stuntwoman was unavailable for some reason and she talked the director into it. It's clearly her on the horse just before the camera cuts to another view for the explosion. A fun movie, though nowhere as good as the book - and not just because her character is gagged for awhile in the book.
Geezer
Monday August 22 17:48:06 2011
Re: Seven of Nine
Ch wrote:

> Hello! Did she say what the photoshoot was for (or
> whom)?
> She was cute in her early days before the TV work.

Thinking about it more, it might have been a Hollywood photographer talking about some of his weird photo shoots, but either way it did Invove June Lockhart and it definitely didn't sound like a young starlet type situation.

Jacot
Monday August 22 20:16:08 2011
Re: Rizzoli & Isles alert (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:
> Sasha more strawberry blonde at this point. Long shift
> from her black hair on NSIS.
> She is definitely in need of a new gag scene.

Wow! I didn't even recognize her as the hot brunette who was bound and gagged by a rogue SEAL in the NCIS episode entitled "UnSEALed"! Thanks for the information! Yes, she definitelty needs to be bound and gagged on Rizzoli and Isles.
Hadji
Monday August 22 20:38:38 2011
Re: Possible Rachel Nichols
Geezer wrote:
> (unsigned poster) wrote:
> > > Can anyone think of any other scenes where a
> damsel
> > > is tied hands behind on a horse?
> > I remember the great Ursula Andress being bound and
> > gagged on a horse in an old western movie but I
> can't
> > remember if her hands were tied behind her.
> Would imagine that you're thinking of "Red
> Sun." Pretty sure her hands were in front while on
> the horse and gagged. Later after an "escape"
> she gets her hands tied behind her, and the gag is off.

Yes, it definitely sounds like Red Sun, an old Western featuring Charles Bronson, Toshiro Mifune, the venerated Japanese actor, and Ursula Andress. She is bound and gagged on horseback along with a putz, who is quickly released. She engages in some repartee with Charles Bronson while gagged, then after a while, Mifune removes her gag and unties her.
Hadji
Monday August 22 20:54:03 2011
Re: Rizzoli & Isles alert (?)
(unsigned poster) wrote:

> Sorry for that image post.

Deleted. Please check images before posting.

The Moderator
Monday August 22 21:39:46 2011
Re: Possible Rachel Nichols
Geezer wrote:


> Pretty dangerous for someone to be on a horse with their
> hands tied behind them, which may be why it didn't happen
> more often in the thousands of Westerns made.

Writing as someone who once took a pretty bad fall off a tall horse (don't ask), yes it would be quite dangerous if her hands were really tied securely behind her back on horseback.

But remember that movie-making is all about image -- not necessarily reality.

There are many scenes where a DID will APPEAR to have her hands tied properly -- when she is just holding a piece of rope and her hands in a way to make it look real at a glance -- and in context. Of course such scenes tend to avoid real closeups -- so that is one way to tell an actual scene or not. But even then, a closeup can be edited into an otherwise fake scene. (I think this general topic came up before.)

Some scenes have real bloopers -- showing things like a DID whose hands are "tied," then momentarily free -- only to be presented as tied later.

Some of the fakery that got by in theater film movies can be discovered in digital format with slow/stop DVD use, so they should cut it out. The scenes would improve, too.

Dangerous sometimes, yes -- thus the use of stunt-women. Would like to hear one interviewed about it sometime...

hangdogit

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