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Monday November 15 00:14:18 2004
Re: Are You Afraid of the Dark
AsbestosFilter wrote:

> I have the entire series on disk, if you need help in
> verifying, let me know.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps/

I meant that I updated with more info around midnight last night, and the new info hasn't been added to the entry. I think it would be redundant to simply repost what I said before.
Monday November 15 01:51:34 2004
From Discussion
-- HBO began airing a six-part documentary series titled "Pornucopia" on 11/12 at 11 PM ET. The series documents the trials and tribulations of the San Fernando Valley porn contingent. During the opening crawl, there are at least two shots of ballgagged/bound models. Whether the series will devote an upcoming episode to fetish material or it just made for an interesting montage is anyone's guess.

In effect, this is direct-market material airing on a "mainstream" channel, so I have no idea if it has a place here or not. The POV is of the documentary cameras, not actual product footage. --

So ... how would this be dealt with as a DB entry? Does it qualify? I'd imagine so ... given the last sentence above.
Biff
Monday November 15 02:52:34 2004
Re: From Discussion
Biff wrote:

> San Fernando Valley porn contingent.
> direct-market material airing on a
> "mainstream" channel,
> Does
> it qualify?

See directed here,
so guess wants Eds to relate what doing till this point?

Have similar from up here. Two of David Knight's ladies were featured. Used to direct post them on Anything Goes Page.

Problem recall,
I got sqwacked at about an entry that a fella from Discussion had posted. He'd made his own Serial, but it not readily available, or something. (Have to check notes)
Wanted it deleted, and I ended up having to eject it.

This at a time when could direct all to Anything Goes Page and out of Database for fairness,
might have to adjust this for current system.
Jay L
Monday November 15 14:15:33 2004
Re: From Discussion
Jay L wrote:

> Biff wrote:
>
> > San Fernando Valley porn contingent.
> > direct-market material airing on a
> > "mainstream" channel,
> > Does
> > it qualify?
>
> See directed here,
> so guess wants Eds to relate what doing till this point?
>

I was trying to get Brian's take on whether the material would qualify for entry, given that it wasn't directly from a commercial vid ... as opposed to the footage of Sarah Kozer (if I have the name right) that was of that type in that VH-1 special from a while back.

> I got sqwacked at about an entry that a fella from
> Discussion had posted. He'd made his own Serial, but it
> not readily available, or something. (Have to check
> notes)
>

Wasn't that Todd 3-D's KING OF THE FOREST RANGERS?
Biff
Monday November 15 14:45:18 2004
[4838] Come Dance With Me (1959) aka Sexy Girl
This entry is completely incorrect. There is no such bondage scene for Bardot or anyone else in this movie. I just rented the DVD and looked through it twice. No scene at all.
Ralphus
ralphus44@aol.com
Monday November 15 16:01:38 2004
Re: Biff's Post
"I was trying to get Brian's take on whether the material would qualify for entry, given that it wasn't directly from a commercial vid"

I see.

"Wasn't that Todd 3-D's KING OF THE FOREST RANGERS?"

Correct,
that the one
Jay L
Monday November 15 16:03:00 2004
Re: [4838] Come Dance With Me (1959) aka Sexy Girl
Ralphus wrote:

> no such
> bondage scene

Got it
thanx for assist here
Jay L
Monday November 15 20:10:05 2004
Re: Biff's Post
Jay L wrote:

> "I was trying to get Brian's take on whether the material
> would qualify for entry, given that it wasn't directly
> from a commercial vid"

> I see.

Even though I was addressing this to Brian, I would be curious as to your thoughts on something like this.
Biff
Monday November 15 21:31:07 2004
Re: From Discussion
Biff wrote:

> In effect, this is direct-market material airing on a
> "mainstream" channel, so I have no idea if it
> has a place here or not. The POV is of the documentary
> cameras, not actual product footage. --


This is obviously very borderline. I guess my leanings
are towards inclusion, because it is a mainstream source,
even though the subject is not fictional. However, I
wanted to bring it up for discussion rather than making
a ruling. I'm interested in what you guys think.

Brian R
Monday November 15 22:07:34 2004
Re: From Discussion
Brian R wrote:

> I'm interested in what you guys think.
>

I think any bondage imagery that's not simply a regurgitation of commercial material passes muster. Having said that, though ... what is the rationale for barring snippets of such footage appearing in a mainstream program, such as the Kozer VH-1 example? Can a case be made that its nature changes when its context changes ... from commercial product to a minor part of a non-commerical entity?
Biff
Monday November 15 22:48:55 2004
Re: Biff's Post
Biff wrote:

> Even though I was addressing this to Brian, I would be
> curious as to your thoughts on something like this.

Well, good question now that Anything Goes Page gone to re-direct.
As recall,
CITY channel's SexTV show had eps that featured David Knight's models. (Paige & somebody?). Close to off-side for Mainstream.
The fella whom posted the Park Rangers serial people sqwacking about, related his intent was Mainstream distribution.

How to be fair to both?

Started re-directing to Trading Page for some recent Cage Fan alerts. Perhaps continue this?

To his credit, Todd never sqwacked about me deleting.
But this is what figure in when trying to be fair.
Not being familiar with these bondage models, I do want to be able to alert them they on TV, or send them the episode, but I'd understand if someone like Todd's case did sqwack abit.
Jay L
Monday November 15 23:40:30 2004
Re: From Discussion
Brian R wrote:
> This is obviously very borderline. I guess my leanings
> are towards inclusion, because it is a mainstream
> source,
> even though the subject is not fictional. However, I
> wanted to bring it up for discussion rather than making
> a ruling. I'm interested in what you guys think.

If it is on broadcast / whatever TV (i.e. not a bdsm only DVD / VHS, why not? If Rachel Paine / whoever is featured on dateline or whatever, great, include it.
AsbestosFilter
AsbestosFilter@yahoo.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asbestosfilterscaps/

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