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Saturday December 04 00:05:54 2004
Re: Foreign Posters
Biff wrote:

> if a language
> barrier is so great as to render the poster incapable of
> coming close to getting the format right, he probably
> shouldn't be attempting an entry.

Agreed,
should post his info here, and get assistance first.

> wouldn't try sticking something in anything other than an English-language DB

Neither I,
still rather Peter, or deanl have a look at European show's scenes first.

Recall Chikyu, ep: "7" aired as I Save the World here, but Title only thing they bothered to translate. Besides what? "Scoop On" during opening credits. What a bugger that.

Another case been alot easier if poster had asked for assist here first
Jay L
Saturday December 04 01:04:30 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
"entries would be taken out of the DB until the problems were resolved ... I thought that was already occurring in some instances."

This the old system, or let foolishness "pass by without a ripple in the pond"? Believe how Brian put it?

Basically, young fellas joking around were running searches on Off-topics after acid-fests on Discussion Page. Then running in entries.
Because of reference posts and entries running in order, have an idea of date posted. And how to search based on the argument on Discussion Page. Suspected ones, going by the DB and 2 pages reference, other than of course ones alerted to.

Checked into some, pulled some outright, but quietly. Geared complaints to emails and learned of "Harmony Rules" and what have you? in email
Tried to settle fellas down that way, etc etc

It the only reason entries were "pulled".

Now all Edited entries are posted. As Brian has requested.
Figured it very close to what you had suggested?
Jay L
Saturday December 04 01:12:23 2004
[10998] Dukes of Hazzard
A duplicate entry.
Saturday December 04 01:43:24 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Jay L wrote:

> Now all Edited entries are posted. As Brian has
> requested.
> Figured it very close to what you had suggested?
>

But what happens if no one posts to correct them? Are you hunting down the pertinent info and re-entering them?

My point in this thread is to emphasize that entry posters need to take responsibility for correct formating ... the editors shouldn't have to clean up after them. Mistakes happen, fair enough ... that's why you give them a week or however long to make the necessary corrections. If they need help, that's what this page is for, right?

And who are these "fellas" ... and if they're being such assitches, is it more trouble than it's worth to screen door 'em and good riddance?
Biff
Saturday December 04 02:04:50 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
"But what happens if no one posts to correct them? Are you hunting down the pertinent info and re-entering them?"

Yes
Jay L
Saturday December 04 02:33:19 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Biff wrote:

> My point in this thread is to emphasize that entry
> posters need to take responsibility for correct formating

I see,
so you want everybody treated same as suspected goofers.

I don't know,
problem with quiet "pull" was some good guys made errors that appeared similar to usual suspect ones.

"Adolph entering the Country Club" only meant to for the goofers. Get their attention we're aware of the jokes. Time to move on, etc
Personally wouldn't like treating contributors making mistakes same way.
Jay L
Saturday December 04 03:58:31 2004
[10998] Dukes of Hazzard
Entry Deleted:
Episode already listed in Database [1273]


Record number: 10998

Title: Dukes of Hazzard
Medium: TV Series
Actress: Catherine Back

Description: Episode: The Duke of Duke *season 2*

All the Dukes in up tied in a cave by their supposed English relative. Scene starts in the that 20 minutes w/ gentleman tieing Daisy's feet with rope. Starts as a closeup and pans out. She has her and tied behing her back but are not shown. Most of the scene doesn't concentrate on her very much. Reruns don't show how the get untied.
Jay L
Saturday December 04 08:28:45 2004
[10996] Hunter
In addition - when recaptured, she is handgagged extensively
prior to being re-tied.
Major John
Saturday December 04 10:36:18 2004
Re: [10996] Hunter
Major John wrote:

> In addition -

Got it buddy, thanx
Jay L
Saturday December 04 10:59:35 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
In general, what I want is something that will be as little work for the editors as possible, while causing as little confusion for the users as possible. I also want to be kept informed about what's going on.

We have two main problems, jokers and the clueless. We appreciate legitimate entries, but there's no excuse for people to enter them in all lower case or with no information (unless from caps or whatever).

There are things I can do programmatically that will help some aspects. As far as other things, I've just about talked myself into a major policy change. I'll be looking at these two things in concert.

Brian R
Saturday December 04 12:57:19 2004
[5536] Walker, Texas Ranger
Toward the end of the show Sydney is shown on a bed with her hands handcuffed over her head in a short dress looking hot
Saturday December 04 14:28:03 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
"And who are these "fellas" ... and if they're being such assitches, is it more trouble than it's worth to screen door 'em and good riddance?"

Brian has been ejecting the jokers,

In General Comment as known cause of concern
Had to word it careful, as Brian requested.
Here:


Ref:
Recall Parents on about "Me" Generation, or the "spoiled lot, that never had to do without"?
So we'll dub "*Me* Division" and *Non Me* Division for example
Ask that stick with this reference if reply concerning certain antics, and not mention ages.
Thanx

This a Scene Collector site with a Moderator. What other reason for regularly coming to this site than Collecting scenes?
*Me* Division are more likely here to get ahold of scenes interested in.
So say back when those unpopular torture entries appeared. All entered shortly *after* heated Discussion Posts on it. Quick search, and found the page those entries copied word for word from.
If this character a *Me* Divisioner with an interest? He had that page and the Anything Goes Page available to post on and get ahold of his scenes, correct?

But to only just copy paste into the DB?

Realise concerns about having warped *Me* Divisioners here. Understand wanting to email Brian and myself the Harmony Rules, or whatever
But this the usual with antics like this, and 9 out of 10 from a poster that doesn't trade, nor contribute?
(Likely can't, huh?)
Again, bored *Non Me* Divisioners trying to get reaction posting foolishness. Same with *Non Me* Division Actress torture, cross-dress entries, or buggering the search feature. Also normal *after* heated posts on Discussion Page

Ask don't get baited by this, and leave Editors to play "Adolph entering the Country Club" with. We have notes and date posted references to work with
Thanx
Jay L
Saturday December 04 14:34:56 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Jay L wrote:

> Biff wrote:

> > My point in this thread is to emphasize that entry
> > posters need to take responsibility for correct
> formating
>
> I see,
> so you want everybody treated same as suspected goofers.
>

No.

I repeat.

No.

I'm just trying to suggest a way to deal with improperly formatted entries in a way that reduces the workload for you ... so you're not having to constantly be cleaning up Aisle 5.

If what I've proposed isn't feasible, fine. Maybe there's no way to get folks to actually read the rules, check how the entries are formatted, and post them accordingly. If I, you and at least a few others can, it wouldn't seem to be a big frigging deal, you'd think.

As for "goofers" ... why aren't they simply banned? Is it a cost/benefit thing and not worth the time and effort ... or can they easily circumvent exclusion? I don't know diddley about the process.

> "Adolph entering the Country Club" only meant
> to for the goofers.
>

What does that phrase mean?
Biff
Saturday December 04 14:39:03 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Brian R wrote:

> In general, what I want is something that will be as
> little work for the editors as possible, while causing as
> little confusion for the users as possible. I also want
> to be kept informed about what's going on.
>
> We have two main problems, jokers and the clueless. We
> appreciate legitimate entries, but there's no excuse for
> people to enter them in all lower case or with no
> information (unless from caps or whatever).
>

We're in agreement, then.

> There are things I can do programmatically that will help
> some aspects. As far as other things, I've just about
> talked myself into a major policy change. I'll be looking
> at these two things in concert.
>

Policy change?

.............................................................................................................................................................................................................
Biff
Saturday December 04 14:52:06 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Jay L wrote:

> Ask don't get baited by this, and leave Editors to play
> "Adolph entering the Country Club" with. We have notes and date posted references to work with
Thanx
>

I am an editor ... I don't understand that remark, or a good bit of the rest of your post, unfortunately.

As for being baited ... no one has attempted to bait me. I'm just trying to be helpful here ... but this medium's awfully damn frustrating compared to RL discussion. I hope what I've said has been of some value.
Biff
Saturday December 04 16:27:07 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Biff wrote:


> Policy change?


I'll make and announcement when details are finalized.

Brian R
Saturday December 04 16:42:48 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Biff wrote:

> I'm just trying to suggest a way to deal with improperly
> formatted entries in a way that reduces the workload for
> you

I see.
Liked the suggestion.

Brian is banning the goofers.
But
there that period between "suspect" and reviewed. Like with the Indonesian one and Korean one (The Record believe?). Took me time to find those.
Jay L
Saturday December 04 17:00:16 2004
Re: "Adolph entering the Country Club"
Biff wrote:

> What does that phrase mean?

Oh, thought it a general sports term?

It used here when describing a known tough Coach/GM first taking over a team.
Said alot when announced Mike Keenan heading to the Blues

Joked when Brian introduced "The Moderator", it based on Mike Keenan. But when learned Brian a Blues Fan, was *sure* of it. ;)
Jay L
Saturday December 04 17:11:26 2004
Re: don't get baited
Biff wrote:

> I am an editor ... I don't understand that remark, or a
> good bit of the rest of your post

The red part down is an In General comment.

There fellas feel very strong about certain topics, which of course the jokers search up on.
Posted those suggestions and considerations incase they wanted to reply to this topic.
Jay L
Saturday December 04 17:16:54 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Biff wrote:

> hope what I've said has been of some value.

Yes,
good ideas
Jay L
Saturday December 04 20:41:04 2004
Re: Biff- Purgatory
Jay L wrote:

> Brian is banning the goofers.
> But
> there that period between "suspect" and
> reviewed.
>

Right ... that's why I said earlier that we should err on the side of caution. But you know better than anyone when someone's being a dip ... and those entries (and the poster himself) should be eliminated with extreme prejudice.
Biff
Saturday December 04 20:45:20 2004
Re: "Adolph entering the Country Club"
Jay L wrote:

> It used here when describing a known tough Coach/GM first
> taking over a team.
>

I've never heard it ... but I get the allusion. I played for a brown shirt in high school ... so I'm familiar with the breed.
Biff
Saturday December 04 20:49:44 2004
Re: don't get baited
Jay L wrote:

> Biff wrote:
>
> > I am an editor ... I don't understand that remark,
> or a
> > good bit of the rest of your post
>
> The red part down is an In General comment.
>

Okay ... I knew you knew I was an editor, so it was a confusing remark. But you should know by now that I try not to allow things to get to that point ... once a discussion degenerates into baiting, I make my point and take my leave. Anything more and you're giving the mook what he's after, right?
Biff

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